Romney in 2007 on whether he’d reserve the right to go after Bin Laden in Pakistan: “Of course…[but] we keep our options quiet”

posted at 5:01 pm on April 29, 2012 by Morgen Richmond

Robert Gibbs is the latest member of the President’s re-election team to distort comments Mitt Romney made about going after Bin Laden in 2007. Via Politico:

Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs on Sunday defended the suggestion by the president’s reelection campaign that Republican rival Mitt Romney might not have ordered the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

“Look, just a few years ago, President Obama – then a candidate – said in a speech that if we had actionable intelligence of a high-value target in Pakistan, we’d go in and get that high value target,” Gibbs said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”  “Mitt Romney said that was foolish. He wouldn’t do such a thing. That he wouldn’t move heaven and earth to get Osama bin Laden.”

Gibbs and other Democrats have focused on comments made by Romney in April 2007, where he said “it’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person”. The full context of Romney’s remarks demonstrate that he was actually calling for a more strategic and expansive approach in the fight against Al Qaeda and Islamic extremism. And that the ongoing effort to capture or kill Bin Laden should not be to the detriment of the larger goals.

But there is no reason for Romney’s accusers in the Obama campaign to parse over his words from April 2007. It turns out Romney was asked directly about this very scenario in the first Republican presidential debate in August 2007. Now I wonder why they haven’t highlighted this?

It’s wrong for a person running for president of the United States to get on TV and say we’re going to go into your country unilaterally. Of course America always maintains our option to do whatever we think is in the best interest of America. But we don’t go out and say “ladies and gentleman of Germany, if ever there was a problem in your country [and] we didn’t think you were doing the right thing, we reserve the right to come in and get them out”. We don’t say those things, we keep our options quiet.

While many of us might cringe at Romney’s characterization of Pakistan as a ‘friend’, his criticism of Obama’s public support for striking targets within Pakistan was an opinion widely shared at the time, and not only within the GOP. Here’s what Chris Dodd had to say on this:

Frankly, I am not sure what Barack is calling for in his speech this morning. But it is dangerous and irresponsible to leave even the impression the United States would needlessly and publicly provoke a nuclear power,” said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.

And Hillary Clinton:

Well, I do not believe people running for president should engage in hypotheticals. And it may well be that the strategy we have to pursue on the basis of actionable intelligence…might lead to a certain action…But I think it is a very big mistake to telegraph that and to destabilize the Musharraf regime, which is fighting for its life against the Islamic extremists who are in bed with al-Qaeda and Taliban. And remember, Pakistan has nuclear weapons. The last thing we want is to have al-Qaeda-like followers in charge of Pakistan and having access to nuclear weapons. So you can think big, but remember, you shouldn’t always say everything you think if you’re running for president, because it has consequences across the world, and we don’t need that right now.

And who better to have the last word than the always reliable Joe Biden:

Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware responded later in the debate, noting that the strategy Obama outlined was already U.S. policy.

“Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts,” Biden said. “It’s already the policy of the United States — has been for four years — that there’s actionable intelligence, we would go into Pakistan.”

This is the bottom line of course. As Biden revealed this was already the policy under the Bush Administration, even if it was not publicly discussed due to sensitivities with Pakistan. And there wasn’t a viable candidate on either side of the aisle in 2008 who would have been likely to change this. It’s also pretty likely that any one of them would have ultimately made the same “gutsy call” to raid Abbottabad that the President did, but I suppose a debate over this hypothetical is fair game. But what isn’t fair game is to misrepresent Romney’s comments from 2007. It’s clear he wasn’t ruling out going into Pakistan to get Bin Laden or other high value targets. The only thing he was opposed to was the same thing Hillary Clinton was opposed to which was Obama’s grandstanding over this issue at the expense of valid national security concerns. The fact that history now reflects more favorably on Obama’s position in 2007 does not change this. Nor does it change the fact that his campaign is blatantly misrepresenting Romney’s record.

Update: Added additional text to Hillary’s quote above. Note how closely Obama’s eventual choice for Secretary of State mirrored Romney on this question. (Romney’s comments were made on August 5th in Iowa and Clinton’s on August 7th in Chicago.)


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Time to aggravate!

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Ugly (:>)

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Mittens would not have taken 16 hours!

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Shameless liars, the lot of them.

changer1701 on April 29, 2012 at 5:04 PM

He would have flipp flopped 8 times by then!

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Biden brags about how Obama had to spend hours deciding on whether to take out OBL or not. I can’t imagine any other president hesitating on that decision…..except Clinton….

cntrlfrk on April 29, 2012 at 5:05 PM

If lying was a terminal disease the Democrats would all be dead…Biteme 1st!

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Obama is bragging that he is doing his main job of Commander in Chief?

That’s really bizarre.

faraway on April 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Meh. A lot of people are weary of the whole issue, and it’s not going to be that big a factor.

As for “taking out of context”, politics ain’t beanbag. Right?

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Nobel Peace Prize Winner has only one Accomplishment as pResident, and it’s killing a guy in his bedroom.

Works for me!

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Obama is bragging that he is doing his main job of Commander in Chief?

That’s really bizarre.

faraway on April 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Especially as THE anti-war candidate of 2008 and the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate of 2009.

thebrokenrattle on April 29, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Some breathtaking Comments from the O’bama Fluffers at the Politico link, to wit:

What else are they supposed to do? Say Obama did the best he could on jobs given house Republicans that try to block him at every turn? That he has been hugely successful on foreign policy and our assertions he would make America more susceptible to an attack were completely wrong? This is politics and the Republicans need to play the best game they can with the hand they were given. It’s just that this time around they were dealt a pretty awful hand.

as many people know, republicans are delusional fools that won’t face up to the truth when facts confront them since facts are only information that confirms what faux news, Limbaugh or Palin tells them are the truth. Pathetic.

Don’t be jealous just because this President has proven himself far superior on national defense than the last one- think of all the dead terrorists, the efficiency of it, and the willingness to get other nations to work with us.

Someone has to give the Seal Teams, SecDef, CentCom and SecState the directions on which path to take. Bush said “forget chasing bin Laden into the caves of Bora Bora, get our armies into Iraq and grab that oil!” Obama said the No. 1 goal of the CIA was to hunt down and kill the mastermind of 9/11. And, yes, once the operation was set up, Obama had to give the “green light”.

President Obama is running on his record. The killing of bin Laden is part of that record.

A hint: 99% of these comments are from college students. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, isn’t it?

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2012 at 5:20 PM

AP Newsflash: The CIA today admitted that the Bin Laden search was undermined by surveillance on the wrong man. Having received intelligence that a man in a compound was sleeping with several different women who were not his wife, the CIA staked out the house for nearly two years until they captured his face when he left the compound. It was Bill Clinton

Smedley on April 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Hey, I was all about giving Obama credit for getting bin Laden but… then he blew it by turning what should have been a sigh of relief into a fundraising bullet-point. And I would just assume Romney would act on credible intelligence to get bin Laden – I mean there’s very little downside to such a call unless it blows up in your face and starts WWIII. So again, Obama turning that into a partisan attack point on Romney with the hard to believe notion he wouldn’t use credible intelligence… unless it really was true without the aid of creative editing – I mean come on! Did he really thing the full clip, the full context would never be revealed? Desperate desperate desperate.

Ukiah on April 29, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Real quick response. Only a week.
There goes the Mitt Romney can respond quickly.

How many times will there be this good a response. Yet it still takes a week to find it here when every one knew the anniversary was coming up this week.

Mitt will lose 2012.
The sixth Moderate Republican in a row. It should be expected.

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Anything to take attention away from a real unemployment rate of over 20%.

VorDaj on April 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Delusional.

VorDaj on April 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Google searches:

bush politicizes war on terror

About 1,070,000 results (0.08 seconds)

The incumbent:

About 796,000 results (0.33 seconds)

The difference?

The Bush results include many articles from the Democrat Mainstream Media; in fact the very first result comes from the NY Times.

On the other hand, the O’bama search results come from obscure blogs like Breitbart.

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

This was so 2011. Who really cares? Do I feel safer that Obama is CIC? Hell, no.

Seriously, I admire Carter more for the failed attempt to rescue the Iranian hostages than I do Obama for giving a belated thumbs up to the SEALs to take out OBL. Other than the loss of life–which I don’t dismiss–I never saw any downside for Obama in approving the mission. His bigger risk was word leaking that he sat on his hands and let OBL slip away.

BuckeyeSam on April 29, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM
Oh yes, Rick Santorum the statesman who hasn’t endorsed the nominee, who yucked it up with Obama telling jokes about Romney last night and who asked Lindsay Lohan to pose so he could take a picture of her. Such a stud. Pathetic.

Rusty Allen on April 29, 2012 at 5:35 PM

We have all met people like Obama in our lifetimes. Arrogant, rude, condescending, pretentious. In fact, Jimmy Buffett wrote a song just for him: Of course Jimmy was ahead of his time but this song is spot on for Obama.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:40 PM

This was a one-time, remarkable situation. Bin Laden wasn’t “a high value target”, he was THE high value target. He was it. When have we gone much past the border and ever struck in the heart of Pakistan? One time. Bin Laden. This was a one-time deal, which pissed off the Pakistanis to no end.

And Obama didn’t “move heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person”. Our intelligence community did its job, and located Bin Laden.

I knew Gibbs was lying his ass off when he was saying this this morning. I’m glad someone fleshed out the extent of his lying.

Romney is a smart guy who talks about reality, and doing things, and his policies. He often parses his words. Listen to him, and read what he says. He doesn’t waffle or flip-flop, he gives very thoughtful answers to real-world situations. He’s saying how he would act if he were President. Compare to Obama, who says stuff, may talk for an hour, and say nothing.

Paul-Cincy on April 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Never had this kind of America hating, divisive, inept doofus in the White House before. You could run a ham sandwich with miracle whip against BO, and it would win, because all the miracle whip hating, mayonnaise loving people would still vote for it. Must be hungry, only analogy I can think of.

msupertas on April 29, 2012 at 5:43 PM

We have all met people like Obama in our lifetimes. Arrogant, rude, condescending, pretentious.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:40 PM

effete

Paul-Cincy on April 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell

Your concern is noted and will be filed in the appropriate receptacle.

chimney sweep on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Every sentence is brimming with ignorance and your love of Obama.

The smartest response is not always the fastest response and all you have to do to make sure Romney wins is vote for him and stop bad mouthing him. Every time you disparage Romney you strengthen Obama.

Elizabetty on April 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Team Un-Truth strikes again!

txhsmom on April 29, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Mitt will lose 2012. The sixth Moderate Republican in a row. It should be expected.

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Would you like your crow baked, boiled or fried?

You have until November 7th to make up your mind. Take your time.

thebrokenrattle on April 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Real quick response. Only a week.
There goes the Mitt Romney can respond quickly.

How many times will there be this good a response. Yet it still takes a week to find it here when every one knew the anniversary was coming up this week.

Mitt will lose 2012. The sixth Moderate Republican in a row. It should be expected.

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I’m pretty sure that the Romney campaign will not respond to this child’s effort at poking him in the chest. Obama’s like the scrawny loud mouth on the playground. Everyone hates him. Nobody engages him. For to do so, would be to devolve to the level of a petulant child.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Keep making noise, Lazy. You’re great entertainment.

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

You got any proof that they’re not?

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Typical dropout, illiterate, obama supporter…

tom daschle concerned on April 29, 2012 at 5:58 PM

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Please take the “Chicken Little” act somewhere else. Your comments don’t add anything relevant to the conversation and you are distracting the adults.

hoosierma on April 29, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Obama: The Al Sharpton Brand of Preezy of the United Steezy.

…………

LOL.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Chris Dodd had to say on this:

Frankly, I am not sure what Barack is calling for in his speech this morning. But it is dangerous and irresponsible to leave even the impression the United States would needlessly and publicly provoke a nuclear power,” said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.

And Hillary Clinton:

“You can think big, but remember, you shouldn’t always say everything you think if you’re running for president, because it has consequences around the world,” Sen. Hillary Clinton said during a 90-minute Democratic presidential forum in Chicago sponsored by the AFL-CIO.

And who better to have the last word than the always reliable Joe Biden:

Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware responded later in the debate, noting that the strategy Obama outlined was already U.S. policy.

“Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts,” Biden said. “It’s already the policy of the United States — has been for four years — that there’s actionable intelligence, we would go into Pakistan.”

You forgot to mention that the only one of those Democrats who was honest and straight with the American people ended up being president. See where honesty gets you??

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Mitt is not not my first choice but it is time for us to get over it and get the clown president out of the Peoples House. We may need to get a huge moving truck so barracks and moochelles egos can get outour House. Anybody but obama……….

crosshugger on April 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM

The full context of Romney’s remarks demonstrate that he was actually calling for a more strategic and expansive approach in the fight against Al Qaeda and Islamic extremism. And that the ongoing effort to capture or kill Bin Laden should not be to the detriment of the larger goals.

Keep spinning away okay..

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM

effete

Paul-Cincy on April 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM

:o)

I didn’t want to get teh gehs all riled up.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM

So given the choice of health care or Osama Bin Laden, Obama is braggin’ about……

itsspideyman on April 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Mitt is not not my first choice but it is time for us to get over it and get the clown president out of the Peoples House. We may need to get a huge moving truck so barracks and moochelles egos can get outour House. Anybody but obama……….

crosshugger on April 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Unfortunately you wingnuts,that wont happen until 2017. And even then we all know Hillary will be taking over the baton.

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Steveangell

Your concern is noted and will be filed in the appropriate receptacle.

chimney sweep on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

…is it sort of round made of porcelain and have a seat on it?

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

They are, you’re just not bright enough to figure it out.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Please take the “Chicken Little” act somewhere else. Your comments don’t add anything relevant to the conversation and you are distracting the adults.

hoosierma on April 29, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Dont get your red thongs in a twist because the man was being honest.

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:08 PM

You got any proof that they’re not?

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:57 PM

lester’s drinking 80 proof …morning…noon…and night!

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Ever get the feeling that the great and powerful Obama campaign is relying on wildly idealistic and ill-trained youth volunteers to do their oppo-research? It’s like they find something, then just stop. No digging. No context. Reminds me of a scene from The Town when the FBI agent says, “Just find something and make it look like something that looks like a print.”

The obvious problem to all of this is the one thing they think they own outright – alternate media. Then, they look like idiots. Romney should have an ever increasing internet ad that simply plays all of the Obama attacks in their own words and the truthful rebuttal that is exposed usually within hours of their wildly false claims.

BKeyser on April 29, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Obama is so tough that the dog does not bite him, rather he bites the dog.

Gladtobehere on April 29, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

thats about the time the full photo spread of hillary boozing it up in cartagena will surface.

maybe we will finally see how much huma loves cottage cheese thighs?

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Uppereastside

How is the call option of SBUX120519C00070000 you said you bought on April 13 working out for you?

galtani on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

You forgot to mention that the only one of those Democrats who was honest and straight with the American people ended up being president.

Biden? Obama acted as if he was staking out a novel position on this when, as Biden revealed, it was existing policy and had been for a long time. Obama exploited what was essentially classified information for political gain. Honesty? I think not.

Morgen Richmond on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Uppereastside

lester

…troll date tonight?

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

A hint: 99% of these comments are from college students. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, isn’t it?

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2012 at 5:20 PM

..these are breathtaking. I can hardly wait to hear what these dewy-eyed dreamers have to say when they hit the wonderful job market that President Big Stick has prepared for them. Hope the BA’s in European History with the 200K college debt are rehearsing: “Would you like fries with that?”

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

…troll date tonight?

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

..speaking of which, do you suppose that KenInCt has finally hooked up with the man of his dreams?

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

It’s,their MO

cmsinaz on April 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

So given the choice of health care or Osama Bin Laden, Obama is braggin’ about……

itsspideyman on April 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Now there’s a Rush Limbaugh Monday Morning talking point if ever there was one!

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM

I didn’t think it was possible. But here we are. Romney is more pathetic than Juan McAmnesty.

angryed on April 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Keep spinning away okay..

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM

…you on someone’s lap again?

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 6:15 PM

..speaking of which, do you suppose that KenInCt has finally hooked up with the man of his dreams?

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

………..

Neh, Dishwater Schultz is attending a hair parlor appointment. They’re trying to give her a do-over.

It won’t work unless they can replace her brain, face, teeth and abrasive nature. Money can’t buy class. Ask Mitchell. He’ll tell ya.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:16 PM

And even then we all know Hillary will be taking over the baton.

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

..Shrillary will be grabbing The Pantload POTUS’s big stick? Please, please, please do NOT post the pics on the internet, I’m beggin’ ya.

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I didn’t think it was possible. But here we are. Romney is more pathetic than Juan McAmnesty.

angryed on April 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Ed? Why are you doing this to yourself? I really do miss your other personality.

Or… perhaps… could it be? That you are Ed Schultz?

Please say it ain’t so.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Ed? Why are you doing this to yourself? I really do miss your other personality.

.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Angryed has no friends, his wife makes him sleep on the couch in the basement and the poor fella is just frustrated or maybe constipated.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Ed? Why are you doing this to yourself? I really do miss your other personality.

Or… perhaps… could it be? That you are Ed Schultz?

Please say it ain’t so.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:18 PM

..funny thing, KWR, the truculent one’s periodic gaseous eructions sure are doing a lot to unite us, aren’t they?

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Angryed has no friends, his wife makes him sleep on the couch in the basement and the poor fella is just frustrated or maybe constipated.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM

..no maybe about it, JP, he is one sorry troll in dire need of a good enema.

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM

“Just find something and make it look like something that looks like a print.”

BKeyser on April 29, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Shades of Dan Rather / Mary Mapes and their 1970s-era Bush document that was written in MS Word post-2000. They found something that looked like something. That’s their “due diligence”. Like how liberals post a link they say supports one thing then when you click on the link and read it, it actually says the very opposite thing. They’re great, except when it comes to the actual substance of their points. The fly in the ointment.

Paul-Cincy on April 29, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Uppereastside

lester

…troll date tonight?

Steveangel

angryed

.
…speaking of which, do you suppose that KenInCt has finally hooked up with the man of his dreams?

The War Planner on April 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

…had to go to HuffPo…everybody is double dating here!

.

KOOLAID2 on April 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Mitt will lose 2012. The sixth Moderate Republican in a row. It should be expected.

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

.
I can only half-agree with you there, Steve’.
Yes, I believe Santorum would win the general against BHO.

So will Mitt.

listens2glenn on April 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Starting on or around June teenth, I would expect that Obama will be able to articulate what his second term would be all about.

Other than finishing what he “started”. Which is the rapid decline of America and Her people.

Obama? What exactly is your vision for a second term? America and Her people deserve to know.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Dont get your red thongs in a twist because the man was being honest.

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:08 PM

I almost missed it —another panties reference. That is at least three today. You’re a low-life “prevert”.

Get a life loser.

CW on April 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Angryed has no friends, his wife makes him sleep on the couch in the basement and the poor fella is just frustrated or maybe constipated.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM

He , Lester, and DDrintintin need to get a place together.

CW on April 29, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

You got any proof that they’re not?

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Isn’t fluoride in US water systems and their meddling in Czechoslovakia proof enough?

Can you prove that aliens were NOT present at the first Thanksgiving dinner?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts

bayam on April 29, 2012 at 6:55 PM

As for “taking out of context”, politics ain’t beanbag. Right?

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Pathetic. You just don’t know what to do with yourself these days, do you?

cicerone on April 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Keeping quite? Is that why he openly called Russia America’s number one enemy while running for President?

lester on April 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

It’s not even close to being the same thing. Identifying the threat that Russia poses is not the same thing as telegraphing our next move. Do you really not understand? Or are you just unable to muster the requisite honesty to even carry on a discussion?

cicerone on April 29, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Mitt will lose 2012. The sixth Moderate Republican in a row. It should be expected.

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning. Mitt does not.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

How did Santy stand a chance of winning when he couldn’t even win the nomination? Don’t you get tired of embarrassing yourself?

cicerone on April 29, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Glenn Reynolds’ (Instapundit) take on Barry’s ad

Former President Bill Clinton appears in a new Obama campaign ad suggesting that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney would not have ordered the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, even though Clinton himself repeatedly spurned opportunities to capture or kill the 9/11 mastermind.

Reuel Marc Gerecht, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told the Washington Free Beacon that Clinton’s appearance in the ad was “just astonishing.”

“It’s pretty preposterous to suggest that he ran an aggressive counter-terrorism shop,” Gerecht said of Clinton. “Far, far from it. The notion that President Clinton was focused on the issue, was aggressive on the issue and was willing to really put his presidency on the line to go after bin Laden is absurd.”

In a 2006 interview on Fox News Sunday, Clinton animatedly claimed he “worked hard to try to kill [bin Laden].”

The facts suggest otherwise.

Yes, Clinton blew his shot at getting bin Laden before 9/11 — and when that was dramatized in The Path To 9/11, the Clintons used their influence to ensure that the made-for-TV movie never aired again. And it still hasn’t. It’s not available on DVD, either. (For more on this see Blocking The Path To 9/11 with Andrew Breitbart.)

Of course, any commercial where Bill Clinton is talking about honor and integrity is automatically a joke.

galtani on April 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM

I didn’t think it was possible. But here we are. Romney is more pathetic than Juan McAmnesty.

angryed on April 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM

No one is more pathetic than Obama. Unless, of course, it’s some of his supporters or voters.

Gladtobehere on April 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM

As for “taking out of context”, politics ain’t beanbag. Right?

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Pathetic. You just don’t know what to do with yourself these days, do you?

cicerone on April 29, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Sure I do. I can remind you little ‘bot squad how often you took any of Romney’s opponents’ statements out of context, and then shrugged it off with the “beanbag” comment from The Master himself. You think now that Team O is doing the same thing to Little Lord Fauntleroy we’re all going to jump to Mitt’s defense?

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Get a life loser.

CW on April 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Copy and paste that to a text file and you have this moron’s entire repertoire.

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Dont get your Obama never gets his red thongs in a twist because the man was being honest toughened up by eating dogs.

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:08 PM

FIFY.

Gladtobehere on April 29, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Unfortunately you wingnuts,that wont happen until 2017. And even then we all know Hillary will be taking over the baton.

Uppereastside on April 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Please tell us again what “Qualifications” Ms. Clinton has for being the following:

1. US Senator

2. Secretary of State

3. President

And also please list what you consider her “accomplishments” as a US Senator and as SOS.

Love, Dick Cheney.

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Is it you intention to continue to dump on every Romney thread from here on out?
Serious question. What is your motive? What do you hope to accomplish?

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Is it you intention to continue to dump on every Romney thread from here on out?
Serious question. What is your motive? What do you hope to accomplish?

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM

His butt hurts because Palin didn’t run.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Is it you intention to continue to dump on every Romney thread from here on out?

Probably.

Serious question. What is your motive? What do you hope to accomplish?

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Catharsis. Sweet, sweet catharsis.

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Would you like your crow baked, boiled or fried?

You have until November 7th to make up your mind. Take your time.

thebrokenrattle on April 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM

How did Santy stand a chance of winning when he couldn’t even win the nomination? Don’t you get tired of embarrassing yourself?

cicerone on April 29, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Does no one read history anymore?

Does no one even begin to understand Regan?

Regan stated you must be conservative on all three legs to win. All three after Goldwater was liberal on social issues and lost but was strong on defense and fiscal issues. He won both terms second in a landslide election.

Since then it was all three legs or you lost. Dole, Ford, GHW Bush second term McCain all lost. Now it is Mitts turn to lose.

I am just warning everyone in advance.

Sure Santorum was far from perfect but he had a conservative message that could have won with some support. Mitt is nothing but mush. His message changes quicker than the tides. He knows only one kind of “truth” say what ever is necessary to win. In other words he is just like Obama. Thus he has no chance of beating Obama because Obama has a Royal Flush but poor Mitt has a dead mans hand.

Obama has the press totally on his side. Thus that he made a gutless choice to kill Bin Laden makes him a hero. That he eats dogs is just fine but Mitt better not take his dog on vacation. Come the election every positive Mitt thinks he has will be a negative while every negative he has will be on every front page. No one will believe anything Mitt says but Obama will be the second coming. Gods anointed according to every thing people see, read or hear.

The press could have tried to destroy Santorums message but it would have been heard and people would have voted on it. He would have won.

Nothing Mitt will do will help him win. The only way he could win is to really become the next Regan. But that is not him. He will not do it. If he tried it would be transparent. Thus Mitt will lose.

Thus most likely America will take a huge step towards becoming an Islamic State. Right I love the Islamic farce of a President we have. LOL

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

bayam on April 29, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Errr. Flouride? At this late date?

Please answer, because I’m not sure that you’re stupid.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Oh. Dude.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 7:25 PM

His butt hurts because Palin didn’t run.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 7:20 PM

And your butt hurts because we’re not all kissing SuperMitt’s…butt. Deal with it.

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Catharsis. Sweet, sweet catharsis.

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Oh man, couldn’t you just do it in your bathroom?? Come on ;))

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I am just warning everyone in advance.
Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Take your warnings elsewhere, no one pays attention to your loony rants.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 7:27 PM

At least Santorum stood a chance of winning.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM

lol

WeekendAtBernankes on April 29, 2012 at 7:27 PM

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 7:20 PM

and your butts hurting cause you’ve also been with reggie love?

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM

And your butt hurts because we’re not all kissing SuperMitt’s…butt. Deal with it.

ddrintn on April 29, 2012 at 7:26 PM

The only person that makes my butt hurt is Obama. You and the rest of the butt hurt Palinista’s need to deal with that.

JPeterman on April 29, 2012 at 7:31 PM

for a Palinista these are enjoyable times. we spent the last 3 years getting blindsided, backstabbed, cursed at and demeaned by the romney supporters both overtly and covertly.

its our time now.

we will not rest.

We are all Seamus now.

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

I love Sarah, but…..SHE DIDN’T RUN!!!!.

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM

I am just warning everyone in advance.
Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

No offense, Steve.

But, back in the 70′s when Massengil came out with plastic douche in a box my mom called them stevengil. Because they had that plastic hose on them.

Or something.

Key West Reader on April 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Dude – let.it.go

gophergirl on April 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM

thats right, and mitt was working hand in hand with obama to bring mitt down.

obamaromney will do what they have to do to keep their misbegotten plain alive.

if they both only cared half as much for the human unborn, i would respect them more.

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Sorry..does not compute.

bluealice on April 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM

thats right, and mitt was working hand in hand with obama to bring mitt down.

obamaromney will do what they have to do to keep their misbegotten plain alive.

if they both only cared half as much for the human unborn, i would respect them more.

renalin on April 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Do not forget.

Romney is the primary author of Obama Care.

Romney got version 1.0 into law.

Now we have version 2.0 Obama Care.

Romney also raised government spending in Mass by a huge amount. He paved the way for Patrick Duval 2006 run who tested Obamas method of winning in 2008.

There are many more connections.

Steveangell on April 29, 2012 at 7:51 PM

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