Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on April 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

“The president who won the Nobel Peace Prize less than nine months after his inauguration has turned out to be one of the most militarily aggressive American leaders in decades…

“Mr. Obama’s readiness to use force — and his military record — have won him little support from the right. Despite countervailing evidence, most conservatives view the president as some kind of peacenik. From both the right and left, there has been a continuing, dramatic cognitive disconnect between Mr. Obama’s record and the public perception of his leadership: despite his demonstrated willingness to use force, neither side regards him as the warrior president he is

“[I]t is clear that he has completely shaken the ‘Vietnam syndrome’ that provided a lens through which a generation of Democratic leaders viewed military action. Still, the American public and chattering classes continue to regard the president as a thinker, not an actor; a negotiator, not a fighter.”

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“White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan appeared on three separate Sunday morning programs to discuss the administration’s efforts against al Qaeda a year after President Barack Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

“‘We’re on the path towards al Qaeda’s destruction, and the president has committed that we’re not going to rest until al Qaeda is destroyed as an organization,” Brennan told CNN’s “State of the Union with Candy Crowley.’ ‘We’re not going to relent until they’re brought to justice one way or the other. We demonstrated the ability to do that with bin Laden.’”

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“‘There are indicators that some elements of the Pakistani government may be protecting Zawahiri,’ says a U.S. intel official who did not want to be named discussing sensitive information. ‘We have reports that he’s been hanging out in Karachi for brief periods, and we just don’t think he’s going to be doing that without a lot of people knowing about it.’…

“If the U.S. gets Zawahiri in its sights, it won’t want to risk compromising an operation to take him out. The al Qaeda leader’s safest bet might be to hide as deep inside Pakistani territory as he can get. Riedel believes he’s probably already there. ‘I think the CIA would be looking for something that looks an awful lot like Abbottabad,’ he says. ‘A safe house in an urban area near a military base. That’s been the signature of almost all of the senior Qaeda operatives who have been killed or captured.’

“‘The problem for Zawahiri, however, is that “the CIA has demonstrated that it can break the code,’ says Riedel. ‘Bin Laden actually practiced pretty good operational security, but Zawahiri has to take it up a notch. If I were him, I would be worried. I think we’ll find him, and I don’t think it will take 10 years.’”

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“Bergen offers this perspective: ‘Seventeen Americans have been killed by Al Qaeda or people influenced by its ideas since 9/11. More Americans die in their bathtubs by significant amounts, by accidental drowning. We don’t have a fear of accidental bathtub drowning.’…

“Ignatius, who has read some of the documents the U.S. obtained from bin Laden’s compound, said the terror group’s leader knew some aspects of his organization failed

“However, the Washington Post journalist said the ideas of al Qaeda are stronger than the organization. ‘Bin Laden’s violent dreams of jihad probably died with him, but the idea of purifying the Muslim world of Western influence, of getting what he called apostate leaders like Hosni Mubarak in Egypt out of their jobs, that’s actually happened,’ Ignatius said.”

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“Documents found in the house where Osama bin Laden was killed a year ago show a close working relationship between top al-Qaida leaders and Mullah Omar, the overall commander of the Taliban, including frequent discussions of joint operations against Nato forces in Afghanistan, the Afghan government and targets in Pakistan…

“The news will undermine hopes of a negotiated peace in Afghanistan, where the key debate among analysts and policymakers is whether the Taliban – seen by many as following an Afghan nationalist agenda – might once again offer a safe haven to al-Qaida or like-minded militants, or whether they can be persuaded to renounce terrorism…

“‘Questions and issues come up. They don’t see eye to eye on everything but it’s clear they understand they have an interest in co-operating [on attacks against Nato, Afghan government and Pakistani targets],’ the source said. ‘Of those engaged in the conversation, two [Zawahiri and Omar] are still alive today and there is no reason to believe that either has substantially changed his views in the last year.’”

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“‘It’s wishful thinking to say al-Qaida is on the brink of defeat,’ says Seth Jones, a Rand analyst and adviser to U.S. special operations forces. ‘They have increased global presence, the number of attacks by affiliates has risen, and in some places like Yemen, they’ve expanded control of territory.’…

“Many U.S. officials cite the Yemen model as the way ahead: a small network of U.S. intelligence and military forces working with local forces to selectively target militants.

“‘The key challenge will be balancing aggressive counterterrorism operations with the risk of exacerbating the anti-Western global agenda’ of al-Qaida and its affiliates, Cardillo says.

“In other words, adds Jones, ‘it is a war in which the side that kills the most civilians loses.’”

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“What we’re seeing now in Egypt is something that might be called electoral bin Ladenism. Take the group Gamaa Islamiya, which under its spiritual leader, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, made the first unsuccessful attempt to destroy the World Trade Center in 1993. Today, the organization has formed a Salafist political party with the benign name Building and Development Party. This organization, which like al-Qaeda traces its roots to the Islamist theorist Sayyid Qutb, has 13 seats in the new Egyptian parliament…

“So, a year on, it’s a time to think about bin Laden’s failures but also about the ways his fellow Islamists have morphed toward a political movement more successful than even bin Laden could have dreamed.”

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“Gibbs was asked by host David Gregory if the president believed that Romney would not have authorized the bin Laden mission had he access to the same intelligence.

“‘I don’t think it’s clear that he would,’ said Gibbs of Romney. ‘Again, he criticized Barack Obama a few years ago, when Barack Obama said if we had actionable intelligence about a high value target and let’s be clear: Nobody was bigger, nobody was a more high value target than Osama bin Laden.’”

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“Gillespie, a former Republican National Committee chairman, responded: ‘This is one of the reasons President Obama has become one of the most divisive presidents in American history. He took something that was a unifying event for all Americans – an event that Gov. Romney congratulated him and the military and the intelligence analysts in our government for completing the mission in terms of killing Osama bin Laden – and he’s managed to turn it into a divisive partisan political attack.’”

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It’s really a shame to see how clueless you are. One day you too will wake from your stupor. And please don’t confuse me with “Occupy” because I am not that. They are a far left progressive movement. What you must understand is that the banks run this country, not the president. Then you will be headed in the right direction.

dom89031 on April 30, 2012 at 3:42 AM

Money has always ran society, what rock did you just crawl out from under? As I said to FR, what makes your politician any better than any other politician, give me a break… Really oh he will really be honest and do what he says, yeah right. All politicians are liars and looking for votes. The best you can do is to influence what you can, and get on with the rest. The left will destroy this country faster than anything, at least try to influence what you can. If not you are a fool, just get on with life and do what you can.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 3:47 AM

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 3:40 AM

I didn’t mention Paul, my comment was about freedom and liberty and how we are preemptively destroying it ourselves apparently in order to keep terrorists from doing it; terrorists that are so, so scary and threatening—that we leave our borders wide open and turn our heads like it just doesn’t matter.

And we destroy it ourselves by voting for politicians that support unconstitutional, un-American bills like the NDAA.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 3:49 AM

CISPA
FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 3:41 AM

I have not heard of this one, just looked it up. Thanks for the info. So the House just past this on Thursday – Just a quick read and this seems worse then SOPA. Hopefully it won’t get through the senate. :-\

DoubleClutchin on April 30, 2012 at 3:49 AM

QOTD shoulda been “a Pit Bull is delicious”

Sarah Palin, rent free 24 hours a day 7 days a week, between barrys big ears.

I hope he gets her mad enough, so that she decides to run.

renalin on April 30, 2012 at 3:50 AM

Hopefully it won’t get through the senate. :-\

DoubleClutchin on April 30, 2012 at 3:49 AM

Let’s hope. I don’t know enough about the details yet myself but it seems like they’re trying to rush it through on the QT, relative to the PIPA and SOPA, so there must be something there they don’t want people to see until it’s too late.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 3:56 AM

I didn’t mention Paul, my comment was about freedom and liberty and how we are preemptively destroying it ourselves apparently in order to keep terrorists from doing it; terrorists that are so, so scary and threatening—that we leave our borders wide open and turn our heads like it just doesn’t matter.

And we destroy it ourselves by voting for politicians that support unconstitutional, un-American bills like the NDAA.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 3:49 AM

This is true, but walking back over 100 years of crap isn’t going to happen overnight, and it will sure as happen quicker if the bozo that currently resides in the white house is re-elected.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 3:57 AM

so there must be something there they don’t want people to see until it’s too late.

…Or alternatively, perhaps there’s not as much there and so there isn’t as much fuss.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 3:59 AM

We have a bad tendency for creating law based on a few bad apples. I also get tired of those that say free market capitalism doesn’t work… how the he!! would we know, we have never let it happen.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 3:59 AM

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 3:47 AM

I can’t argue with you anymore, you have to learn on your own because nobody is going to change your mind. I was once like you. I hung onto every word Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and Levin said. I watched Fox News day and night. Do some serious research and re-learn your history, your eyes will open. The year 1913 is a good place to start, but you must go back prior to the revolution; to the days of Colonial Scrip.

dom89031 on April 30, 2012 at 4:01 AM

Let’s hope. I don’t know enough about the details yet myself but it seems like they’re trying to rush it through on the QT, relative to the PIPA and SOPA, so there must be something there they don’t want people to see until it’s too late.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 3:56 AM

A web site call Techdirt has a synopsis of what they feel is a terrible amendment that was added having to do with expanding what the government can do with shared info. The site has a PDF of the bill. Off to catch some ZZz’s but I will read it tomorrow. Thanks again.

DoubleClutchin on April 30, 2012 at 4:06 AM

I can’t argue with you anymore, you have to learn on your own because nobody is going to change your mind. I was once like you. I hung onto every word Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and Levin said. I watched Fox News day and night. Do some serious research and re-learn your history, your eyes will open. The year 1913 is a good place to start, but you must go back prior to the revolution; to the days of Colonial Scrip.

dom89031 on April 30, 2012 at 4:01 AM

No, you can’t argue, because you have no leg to stand on. Don’t think that you know what I watch, listen to, or read. That right there proves your argument wanting. You are an idiot, you will always be an idiot. Life doesn’t change just because you want rainbows and unicorns. Your guy, just like everyone else is a lying piece of crap, and only wants to be re-elected. Face the facts, life has always been about who controls the money, go back and look at history. Sorry to burst your little bubble, but your guy, just like everyone else wants money and power… if you think otherwise, you are a fool.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:06 AM

I also get tired of those that say free market capitalism doesn’t work… how the he!! would we know, we have never let it happen.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 3:59 AM

Crony-capitalists give free market capitalists a bad name. If real capitalists don’t like it they should distance themselves from the crony-capitalists variety, but instead they back political candidates that thrive on cronyism and so are linked. What we need is a new party that opposes cronyism. What a refreshing change that would be.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:11 AM

Thanks again.

DoubleClutchin on April 30, 2012 at 4:06 AM

No sweat, if you tell somebody else about it that will be thanks enough.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:14 AM

…Actually it was somebody else that first mentioned CISPA now that I think about it.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:15 AM

Crony-capitalists give free market capitalists a bad name. If real capitalists don’t like it they should distance themselves from the crony-capitalists variety, but instead they back political candidates that thrive on cronyism and so are linked. What we need is a new party that opposes cronyism. What a refreshing change that would be.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:11 AM

Every business is going to try and influence government, they would be foolish not to. I agree, it would be refreshing, but I’m also a realist. Unless money is taken out of politics, which will happen when pigs fly, every business will look for some sort of advantage, government influence is a competitive advantage. Make regulations more painful on your competition, make it more difficult for the little guy… this has always, and will always be the case.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:16 AM

Come on FR, what does the cat have your tongue? How exactly do you take the money out of politics? What is your solution? I’m really interested to hear what is it you’d do to change the system we have. This system has gone back for how many years? Oh, wait even when our politicians weren’t paid to screw us over, did they not pass regulations, or laws to benefit themselves???? Come on now lets hear it.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:22 AM

Yeah, here for all the realists in this world!

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:26 AM

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:16 AM

If capitalists accept crony-capitalism, which is leading to all of the debt and inflation—immoral generational theft— then they shouldn’t be surprised that they’re earning a bad name.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:30 AM

I Apologize to any who might be offended by my previous posts, but I do ask that you actively think about what it is you want your politician to perform, and what it is the will promise for your vote. You might be really amazed to find out what it is you will get.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:30 AM

If capitalists accept crony-capitalism, which is leading to all of the debt and inflation—immoral generational theft— then they shouldn’t be surprised that they’re earning a bad name.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:30 AM

Really, and what capatalist isn’t going to look for an advantage? Come on now FR, what is your solution to this problem, I’m interested to hear your solution?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:32 AM

I’m really interested to hear what is it you’d do to change the system we have. This system has gone back for how many years?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:22 AM

Stop voting for the same old crony politicians. Vote for somebody who’s been fighting for freedom and liberty his or her whole life and has resisted the forces of corruption that so many others have succumbed to. Stop voting for the lesser of two evils. That choice always results in evil.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:33 AM

Stop voting for the same old crony politicians. Vote for somebody who’s been fighting for freedom and liberty his or her whole life and has resisted the forces of corruption that so many others have succumbed to. Stop voting for the lesser of two evils. That choice always results in evil.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:33 AM

Really, and what politician would that be? come on now, really do you really trust everything your politician tells you? that is your solution, Jesus, that is about as good as a fifth grader… you can’t do better than that, you really put your faith in a politician… bwahahahahahahahaha. Holy Christ!

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:35 AM

I am assuming that your politician is Paul? I could be wrong. So, he doesn’t tell the populace what he wants to get elected. he doesn’t have to rely on other peoples money to run a campaign. Those that donate to him don’t wish to have influence, they don’t expect anything in return?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:38 AM

Really, and what capatalist isn’t going to look for an advantage? Come on now FR, what is your solution to this problem, I’m interested to hear your solution?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:32 AM

Reduce the size and scope of government and you reduce the power of cronies over our lives. Vote for candidates that support freedom and liberty, for real.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:41 AM

Reduce the size and scope of government and you reduce the power of cronies over our lives. Vote for candidates that support freedom and liberty, for real.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:41 AM

We know the solution, I’m asking how you actually make it happen. Come on what is it that FR would do to make this occur? You think that you politicians are going to provide this to you, you think that those who donate to the campaigns don’t wish to curry favor… Tell me of mighty FR how does this happen?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:43 AM

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:38 AM

Ron Paul receives a large number of small donations and doesn’t get much corporate sponsorship, that’s for sure.

So are you a capitalist or a crony-capitalist? This is an opportunity to differentiate yourself. If not Ron Paul, then capitalists will have to find another candidate, but if they don’t want to be associated with crony-capitalists then they should vote against Obama/Romney.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM

Ron Paul receives a large number of small donations and doesn’t get much corporate sponsorship, that’s for sure.

So are you a capitalist or a crony-capitalist? This is an opportunity to differentiate yourself. If not Ron Paul, then capitalists will have to find another candidate, but if they don’t want to be associated with crony-capitalists then they should vote against Obama/Romney.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM

Weak, So you deny that he is setting up the apparatus for Rand? How long has Ron been a congressman? Will he honor his word and not run as a third party candidate? Is he not a politician? Does he not try to appeal to a base?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:49 AM

Ron Paul receives a large number of small donations and doesn’t get much corporate sponsorship, that’s for sure.

Love that, doesn’t get much corporate sponsorship… Really. that is like getting only a little bit of an STD. Come on FR, will he honor his word and not run as a third party player? is it not all about ego? is it not about being re-elected to congress? Tell me the truth now, is he not just another politician?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 4:54 AM

Reduce the size and scope of government and you reduce the power of cronies over our lives. Vote for candidates that support freedom and liberty, for real.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:41 AM

Been reading through your posts.

The one quoted above is your response to questions about what it is that you think Paul would do if he were elected.

Obama is the first president (at least, that I can think of) that seems to be getting away with “rule by diktat.” Typically, POTUS needs some support from Congress to get anything done.

I’ve told you before that that’s why I’ll vote Romney in November. Though I don’t believe the GOP takes back the Senate, I think our only chance of reversing some of what’s gone on the last few years is to get Obama out.

This loss of freedom that you lament didn’t happen overnight–it took years. Fixing it is going to take years (and probably a revolution). I’m looking for some small steps in the right direction.

As for your argument that the two are the same, it amazes me if you really believe that.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 4:57 AM

I’m a capitalist, sometimes I’ve been one of only a few here defending it, but if capitalism = crony-capitalism and it should just be accepted without resistance then I’d consider voting for Obama if he weren’t also a crony-capitalist.

Neither are acceptable.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:57 AM

It is always, and will always be about the lesser of two evils, sorry, hate to be a buzzkill. That is politics, why don’t you go back and look at history, the spoils of victory under Jackson… come on look at the way things were battled in the press. No Person can be the end all and the be all of every voter. You had your chance, it is done. Influence what you can, make congress hold the president to limited government, maybe even repeal some of it. If not, you are just as much to blame when Rome burns and the next 4 years become Hades.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:01 AM

I’m a capitalist, sometimes I’ve been one of only a few here defending it, but if capitalism = crony-capitalism and it should just be accepted without resistance then I’d consider voting for Obama if he weren’t also a crony-capitalist.

Neither are acceptable.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:57 AM

FR, then you are part of the problem… you would rather see the country dragged down to the abyss than think rationally. This is pretty sad.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:03 AM

I’m a capitalist, sometimes I’ve been one of only a few here defending it, but if capitalism = crony-capitalism and it should just be accepted without resistance then I’d consider voting for Obama if he weren’t also a crony-capitalist.

Neither are acceptable.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 4:57 AM

C’mon Float. You’re sometimes the only one here defending captialism? Adam Smith, is that you?

I’ve said many times that capitalism is what made this country the greatest in history. Also, that when capitalism doesn’t work, it’s usually because the government has stuck its foot in. (I think most posters here think the same.)

As for the corruption in government–it is (of course) a huge problem. Politicians’ hands in the pockets of lobbyists, etc. is a major problem with the system.

You don’t honestly believe that POTUS Ron Paul will fix that, do you?! (Is he some omniscient god?)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:07 AM

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:07 AM

Hey Crow, I can’t believe that I’ve been up arguing this long… What is wrong with me :)

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:08 AM

Well, obviously, having missed this conversation, I had this one thought to share anyway:

Without reading anything by anyone else anywhere about the issue of “Obama got Osama bin Laden,” and, also without (or before) hearing Sunday’s talk shows (with Brennan, who I did hear on Wallace’s show, but that was after I’d had the following impression sink in, and I’ll go on now to explain what that impression is)…

…my impression of Obama, based solely on his behavior, his statements, his presentations, my impression of him is that he participated in the end of Osama bin Laden to service his own (Obama’s) political goal, that being to be re-elected.

I think the U.S. military managed, designed, arranged and commanded the end of Osama bin Laden and I think Obama hung onto their abilities and skill for that same single goal of his — to be re-elected — by assuming he’d do what he eventually did and that was take the credit for himself because he could.

Obama hasn’t had our national security on his mind except in the context of how it’d help him as an individual with his, as an individual, political goal/s.

Because Obama is a user of humanity. He uses human beings. His perception and value of others is as to what it’ll do for himself.

Osama bin Laden was a political prize for Obama. Because it was for himself, a prize, a feather in the woolly hair of a massively conceited, self-centered, self-interested ghoul.

Though I’m glad bin Laden is gone — and I thank our U.S. military talent for doing the deed that Barack Obama now credits himself for.

Lourdes on April 30, 2012 at 5:10 AM

If there’s any justice to come, it’ll be that the names of “Obama Osama Obama Osama” will inevitably and forever be commingled in a big pot of mess. The two share a common legacy: Our nation’s pain and suffering.

Lourdes on April 30, 2012 at 5:12 AM

Hey Crow, I can’t believe that I’ve been up arguing this long… What is wrong with me :)

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:08 AM

Lol. Float is kinda like that old prickly shrub with the gnarly roots. You work and work, struggling to pull it up, make no progress, and have to sit back and take a break for a few. Then, go back to work, trying it from a different angle.

If we could get him to see that there’s no easy fix, and one man (or woman) isn’t going to fix all of our woes, he could be a good addition to our cause.

(Incidentally, you should ignore that dom fella. That was an ugly page of exchanges. I wish you’d catch yourself, the next time you find yourself typing stuff like that. Just ignore that guy.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:14 AM

This loss of freedom that you lament didn’t happen overnight–it took years. Fixing it is going to take years (and probably a revolution). I’m looking for some small steps in the right direction.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 4:57 AM

They just passed the NDAA a few months ago. Obama signed it, Romney supports it.

It’s late, have a good night. I’ve enjoyed the discussion and would like to continue another night, perhaps.

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 5:17 AM

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 5:17 AM

Night Rock, come back when you have the A game.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:18 AM

FloatingRock on April 30, 2012 at 5:17 AM

Have a good night, FR.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:19 AM

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:19 AM

Here is something that goes with this conversation.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:22 AM

Some weird stuff going on with the servers.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:22 AM

Some weird stuff going on with the servers.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:22 AM

You did see my disclaimer above, right?

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:23 AM

Heh–unusually, I actually slept during the night. Got up at four, as I have a big day, today.

I replied to you (once substantively, really). The server seems to be dropping random comments of mine. Weird.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:24 AM

I quoted your comment from 5:08 and made a reply.
Also one other, again quoted and replied.
Disclaimer? The tune? Yeah, got that. (See my 5:24.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:27 AM

Heh–unusually, I actually slept during the night. Got up at four, as I have a big day, today.

I replied to you (once substantively, really). The server seems to be dropping random comments of mine. Weird.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:24 AM

Well at least FR can complain that he didn’t get his discussion.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:27 AM

Well at least FR can complain that he didn’t get his discussion.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:27 AM

True. Still said (mostly) the same stuff, though.

(Incidentally, you should ignore that dom fella. That was an ugly page of exchanges. I wish you’d catch yourself, the next time you find yourself typing stuff like that. Just ignore that guy.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:30 AM

(Incidentally, you should ignore that dom fella. That was an ugly page of exchanges. I wish you’d catch yourself, the next time you find yourself typing stuff like that. Just ignore that guy.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:30 AM

This probably good advice, but I’d had a long weekend of lots o labor… just itching for someone to let my mood out on :) Sorry, I’ll try to do better next time.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:31 AM

Sorry, I’ll try to do better next time.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:31 AM

Well…the language doesn’t bother me. (Hate PC bs, too.)
As someone who’s said some things I regret online before, it’s good to remember that that stuff hangs around for a long time!

(Here’s my disclaimer to those on the morning shift. If you see a bunch of nonsensical comments from me (well, more nonsensical than normal), it ain’t my fault—>Server!!!

What labor, uncommon?

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:35 AM

What labor, uncommon?

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:35 AM

Just lots of work around the homestead. Painting facia and eves this weekend, amongst other things. To cheap to pay someone to do it, so I gets to perform the tasks.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:38 AM

Lourdes on April 30, 2012 at 5:10 AM

Yeah. The guy’s been campaigning for his re-election for three years!

I do find it amazing to have the guy as POTUS. I’m not a birther, but I’ve never really seen the guy as an American.

Not sure, but I think he might be the first POTUS who doesn’t love our country. (Unprovable, of course. Just the feeling I get.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:40 AM

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:35 AM

And yes, everything on the net is forever… not sure why I let Dom get to me tonight, like I said, probably looking for someone to let my foul mood out on… just seemed like a good candidate.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:40 AM

To cheap to pay someone to do it, so I gets to perform the tasks.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:38 AM

Not cheap–smart.

Why not save a bunch of money doing “grunt work” yourself. Also, with the inter-webs, you can find tons of info on how-to that you couldn’t back “in the day.”

All a person has to do is not be lazy. (Also, I find a little elbow grease goes a long way.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:43 AM

Ok, I need a few hours of shut eye… forgive me for my transgressions, and my lack of discipline… I have been a bad boy, I’ll now go punish myself.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:43 AM

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:40 AM

No doubt about that–he wasn’t exactly a shining example of genius.
For Penn, whose clip I caught on Redeye website. (Also, I like that one.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:45 AM

I’ll now go punish myself.

uncommon sense on April 30, 2012 at 5:43 AM

C’mon, I thought we were in agreement about your language.
Lol.
See ya next time.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 5:46 AM

RedCrow
Yep, I think I said something I shouldn’t have said to, that dom is an idiot. I should wake up all the way before hitting send……;)

angrymike on April 30, 2012 at 5:55 AM

angrymike on April 30, 2012 at 5:55 AM

Lol. I realize that you’re “angrymike”, after all.
But, yeah–don’t let some inter-webs stranger get into your head.
Especially if they’re a bozo.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 6:37 AM

RedCrow
I was trying to help uncommon sense, but there’s something about paulbots, they can’t understand it’s over, their inconsolable ………err suicidal ………hehe

angrymike on April 30, 2012 at 6:55 AM

naturally morning joe is agreeing with gibbsy and that the gop shouldn’t go after dear leader on the bin laden kill….they should be going after his HYPOCRISY of spiking the bloody football…

cripe…

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM

angrymike on April 30, 2012 at 6:55 AM

It’s the whole idea that, if only Ron Paul became POTUS, somehow, some way he’d fix all of our problems that I’ll never understand.

While he was my last choice of the people who decided to run, I’d still vote for him over Obama. Never understand the folks who aren’t ABO, either. Maybe they don’t see it as urgent a situation as I do?

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:12 AM

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Don’t know how you can watch that crap. (Unless you use it as background noise as you wake up, get ready for work, etc. I use radio for that.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:14 AM

(Unless you use it as background noise as you wake up, get ready for work, etc. I use radio for that.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:14 AM

its my background noise until work, then it’s the radio…

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:32 AM

you won’t hear this on the lsm

OT: getting the real news from across the pond

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:35 AM

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:35 AM

Remember, according to Carney, Obama’s first “official” campaign trip isn’t until May 5.

Everything thus far has had to do with official presidentin’, so it’s okay to stick the taxpayer with the bills.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:40 AM

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Don’t know how you can watch that crap. (Unless you use it as background noise as you wake up, get ready for work, etc. I use radio for that.)

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:14 AM

I watch it too, because I think it’s important to know what the loons are thinking and saying.

Naturally Curly on April 30, 2012 at 7:41 AM

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:40 AM

they can get away with this crapola because the lsm won’t call them on the carpet about it….

anything to prop up dear leader

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:43 AM

Naturally Curly on April 30, 2012 at 7:41 AM

morning NC

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:43 AM

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:43 AM

Yeah. His “student loans” trip last week had nothing to do with his re-election campaign. Did you hear any of those sound bites? Lol.

I watch it too, because I think it’s important to know what the loons are thinking and saying.

Naturally Curly on April 30, 2012 at 7:41 AM

I can understand that. But you can find out anytime. Personally, I wait until mid-day, when listening to them can’t possibly ruin the whole day for me.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 7:52 AM

you won’t hear this on the lsm

OT: getting the real news from across the pond

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 7:35 AM

Wow. That deserves it’s own story here. I wonder if there are good golf courses in all 57 states.

Night Owl on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Night Owl on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 AM

shhhhh don’t let him know that

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Night Owl on April 30, 2012 at 8:02 AM

just made the HA headlines :)

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 8:04 AM

shhhhh don’t let him know that

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 8:03 AM

The FNC morning show just did a story about the book in the Daily Mail piece you linked.

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 8:06 AM

RedCrow on April 30, 2012 at 8:06 AM

excellent

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Good Morning, CMS. It’s a perfectly gorgeous day here in New Jersey.

Naturally Curly on April 30, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Naturally Curly on April 30, 2012 at 8:12 AM

yea!

sun just rising now in AZ

cmsinaz on April 30, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Holy moly, look how far this thread went during third-shift.

listens2glenn on April 30, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Have you ever noticed that people who have actually been in war seldom talk about it. They have antidotes about the general geography and the weather and they certainly have stories about their friends and colleagues but not their own combat experiences. It’s like pulling teeth. Not this guy. He probably thinks he is the equal to the men in the arena and by his use of this as a campaign tactic proves that he can’t ever be.

Cindy Munford on April 30, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Hypothetical situation:
Potus is chasing your dog, trying to get a meal.

Potus and your dog jump into a river that has strong currents.
Both are drowning.

Do you save Potus or your dog?

Towash on April 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM

ROMNEY SAVES THE DOG -

BabysCatz on April 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Hypothetical situation:
Potus is chasing your dog, trying to get a meal.

Potus and your dog jump into a river that has strong currents.
Both are drowning.

Do you save Potus or your dog?

Towash on April 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM

ROMNEY SAVES THE DOG - As he did, when MA Gov, he and his sons rescued a NJ family of 6 and THEIR PET DOG from a sinking boat. In fact, the dog was plucked out of the water first and foremost because it was heavily struggling due to no life preserver.
Folks – we need to get this story out around the internet – especially the DOG SAVING part.
http://www.dailynewstranscript.com/news/x1128483358#axzz1oaFarP2k

BabysCatz on April 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM

OMG – just re-read the above link. That was ROMNEY’S 2ND RESCUE ON THAT LAKE.

BabysCatz on April 30, 2012 at 9:31 AM

You can’t defeat Al Qaeda, you can only hope to contain them. They come out of the wood work. You can put them into remission, but never defeat them in a way that eliminates them.

That’s why our affair in Afghanistan seems vain to me. If a house is infested with roaches, you don’t move in and get out a rolled-up newspaper. That doesn’t work and it certainly doesn’t defeat them.

michaelthomas on April 30, 2012 at 12:02 PM

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