New Obama campaign video asks: Would Mitt Romney have made the call to kill Bin Laden? Update: Romney quote taken out of context?

posted at 12:01 pm on April 27, 2012 by Morgen Richmond

They went there.

Is anyone surprised by this? I’m not sure I expected this particular attack to be leveled so early in the campaign, but there was no doubt it was coming. And if you are going to put out an ad this shameless, why not stoop even lower and time it’s release to coincide with the one-year anniversary of Bin Laden’s death for maximum political effect.

Now what I do find perhaps a little surprising is the messenger chosen to deliver this. But on second thought, is there anyone with more credibility than Bill Clinton when it comes to talking about spineless decision-making and Bin Laden? In a word, no:

[Sandy] Berger ambled down the stairwell and entered the Sit[uation] Room. He picked up the phone at one of the busy controller consoles and called the president. Amazingly, President Clinton was not available. Berger tried again and again. Bin Laden was within striking distance. The window of opportunity was closing fast. The plan of attack was set and the Tomahawk [missile] crews were ready. For about an hour Berger couldn’t get the commander in chief on the line. Though the president was always accompanied by military aides and the Secret Service, he was somehow unavailable. Berger stalked the Sit Room, anxious and impatient.

Finally, the president accepted Berger’s call. There was discussion, there were pauses – and no decision. The president wanted to talk with his secretaries of Defense and State. He wanted to study the issue further. Berger was forced to wait. The clock was ticking. The president eventually called back. He was still indecisive. He wanted more discussion. Berger alternated between phone calls and watching the clock.

Ultimately it was too late of course, and this opportunity in 1998 to nail Bin Laden and avert the horrific attacks of 9/11 was lost.

In truth, this really wasn’t much of a “gutsy call” on President Obama’s part: the ramifications of not making the call would have probably been far worse politically for the President than if the mission had gone wrong. Given Clinton’s history, President Obama could have ill afforded to become the second Democratic president to pass on a prime opportunity to capture or kill Bin Laden. And in terms of national security considerations, it was practically a no-brainer. Since 9/11 our elite special forces have undoubtedly conducted raids on foreign soil just as dangerous, and diplomatically sensitive, as this one. They are not all successes, and tragically missions of far less import have resulted in the loss of some our nation’s bravest and dedicated warriors. The Commander-in-Chief is expected to make these decisions, and he would be better served by following the example of those who put much more than their careers on the line in fulfilling this mission, and let his actions speak for themselves.

Update: Was Romney’s quote about Bin Laden taken out of context? Sure looks like it, via Ace.


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I posted the full text of the quote on the YouTube site. Any bets on whether or not it gets approved?

I’m glad Obama made that call, but, honestly, does anyone truly believe that any other president would not have made the same call? Unless we elected someone committed to non-violence (first Buddhist president!) I think it’s a given that they’d approve an attack against Public Enemy Number 1.

If the re-election plan is to run away from your record on everything except the fact that you approved an operation against bin Laden, maybe it’s time to retire.

JadeNYU on April 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM

You are pretty stupid if you can’t distinguish between Obama and a team of Navy Seals.

Doughboy on April 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Ed’s a leftist lickspittle. The stupidity speaks for itself.

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I’m confused…

The media and Dems tell me the GOP are all warmongers who love defense spending.

But now they tell me Mitt Romney would not have mongered this particular war.

That’s really the argument the Dems/Obama are going with, huh?

/boggle

gravityman on April 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM

many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He’s by no means the only leader. It’s a very diverse group – Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood…

In other words, Romney wants to kill Obama’s best friends.

Buddahpundit on April 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Romney quote taken out of context?

Of course he/it was.
MSNBC produced the ad.

Jabberwock on April 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Say what you will about Obama, he’s never been afraid to tackle those tough and politically controversial decisions – like “Should we kill Bin Laden?”.

I also love the messaging here.

Romney’s a flip-flipping, unprincipled squish.

And not just any old unprincipled squish, mind you, but one with dangerous right-wing, er, principles.

And this isn’t just ordinary extremism. No, this guy is such a dangerous, reckless and possibly violent cowboy that he’d likely hesitate to kill Bin Laden.

RINO in Name Only on April 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Am I the only one on earth that didn’t know that Clinton was getting a stemmer from Monica while he could have been killing Bin Laden?

CycloneCDB on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I know Monica was just a naive, star-struck school girl, but I can’t believe any woman would consent to “assume the position” for an hour or more. ;-)

totherightofthem on April 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Notice how all the men in the room have dress shirts on except the POTUS.

redridinghood on April 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Because they pulled him off of the 11th fairway to tell him the op was underway.

Washington Nearsider on April 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM

What Romney should say: I would have had Bin Laden captured and spirited away for interrogation but not let on that we had him (e.g. destroyed the hidey hole left behind a disfigured body to fool the Pakis). In a few months after he’d been wrung dry, he’d have been tried by a military tribunal and, when found guilty, killed and buried at sea (one of the few original ideas The Dog Eater has had). Then, after fully exploiting the information gained by interrogation, I’d have told the world what we’d done.
I’d also have punished Pakistan severely for their role in hiding the man who was responsible for 9/11. I’d make sure to point out that The Dog Eater has done nothing to punish Pakistan.

edshepp on April 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Yes, Obama has unveiled the entirety of his campaign for president in April. How do you like it so far?

cjw79 on April 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM

You’d better hope this ain’t the best he’s got, skippy, cuz it’s weak, at best.

totherightofthem on April 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM

…. You just have to have the courage not to feed it, then sit back and watch the implosion.

Seven Percent Solution on April 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Seven Percent is exactly right.

I have never directly addressed it, even though it has responded to me several times.

You people think you’re being so clever by insulting it. (“oo, you’re off your meds today, har har”) You’re not being clever. You’re simply letting the thread turn into the AngryEd show. It’s the same kind of thing that happens when DrTesla is around. You’re just giving it what it wants (attention).

bluegill on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

“Well, he killed Bin Laden.” Ya, we will keep telling ourselves that as we stand in line at the soup kitchen. He and his minions also killed the US economy.

TheGarbone on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

When Bush was blowing up evil terr-rists, the right wing was cheerleading. Obama kills OBL and he’s a hapless fool according to the right wing.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Not at all. In fact, this couldn’t be further from the truth on so many fronts. Bush was busy CATCHING terrorists. That’s how we found out about several imminent major attacks and spiked them and that’s how we got the information to find Bin Laden.

I’ve always loved the left’s view of all this. Waterboarding—something we train our own operatives with—is a crime against humanity. Not painful, but scary. Not like pulling out fingernails at all. The subject survives and talks and thousands of lives are saved. But you guys say Cheney and Bush are war criminals. But Obama the Merciful sends out drones to kill all opposition. We get no information for the war Obama says is over and goodness knows what Bin Laden clone is now developing because the genius Obama doesn’t like to question the enemy, just kill them.

Sort of like dogs. Taking them on a vacation is cruel; eating them is just a cultural thing (and, ot and BTW, have you ever tried to get a 10 year old eat anything they thought was yucky? Not doable without waterboarding or a drone).

Finally, a President who gave a rat’s patootee for our troops and our mission and knowing we were dealing with a two-faced country who knew we knew they were two-faced and playing a very delicate game—that President would have killed or captured the SOB and kept his mouth shut. Total deniability for the sake of our ally, Pakistan, and we all wouldn’t be on high alert right now at our airports so the TSA will be searching lots of disabled kids and old people in wheel chairs.

But no. Mr. popularity. President Cool himself takes out major ad buys and sells the movie rights to his pals in Hollywood.

The SEALS and the CIA did the work; Obama had a photo op.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I know Monica was just a naive, star-struck school girl, but I can’t believe any woman would consent to “assume the position” for an hour or more. ;-)

totherightofthem on April 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

..er..she loved cigars?

The War Planner on April 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Pee-Wee Herman would have ordered it.

So?

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

The SEALS and the CIA did the work; Obama had a photo op.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Will become the theme of viral Romney ads soon.

Fighton03 on April 27, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Update: Was Romney’s quote about Bin Laden taken out of context? Sure looks like it, via Ace.

shameful!

sesquipedalian on April 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM

The SEALS and the CIA did the work; Obama had a photo op.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

..and he even blew the photo-op. He’s jammed in what looks like a janitor’s closet in the WH basement, off to one side, looking like he was one of the hired help who got invited in.

Keeeee-rist! Even Plugs looks more involved that that miserable tool.

The War Planner on April 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM

At this rate Obama will take his two daughters to Take Your Daughter To The Range Day.

That is on 09 JUN 2012.

Yes, they are desperate and I would not put this past Obama for pandering.

Now if the President would like to talk about the ties in the WH to the Muslim Brotherhood, who is the incubator for multiple Islamic Terror groups including al Qaeda and HAMAS, I sure would be happy to hear it.

ajacksonian on April 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM

It would have made complete sense to take Bin Laden out in 1998, and Clinton deserves all the opprobrium in the world for failing to do so. After 9-11, as the extent of the Al Quaeda network became apparent, it would have made more sense to locate him and keep him alive. He’s the leader; you watch him, gather intel on the network, and, when you are pretty sure of what you are dealing with, start rolling it up. You leave the leader for last. When he’s reduced to being an ineffective figurehead, you arrest him or kill him.

I don’t know how much Romney knew, but he is right. If you take out the leader first, a new one takes his place pretty easily and the organization continues, perhaps even more effectively because they have been tipped off. In a decentralized organization like Al Quaeda, the leader doesn’t matter as much. You need to map out his web of connections, and then set it on fire. That’s what the U.S. did, and Bush deserves the credit for it, for not going for the easy, emotionally satisfying option. With Osama alive, the nation stayed vigilant; his early death may have resulted in a false sense of security and led to more tragedy.

Obama’s Osama operation was an anticlimax, empty theater directed by a man for whom appearance is everything. Thanks to GWB, Bin Laden ceased to matter a long time before he met his maker.

Mr. Arkadin on April 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Hogwash. This was a win-win for Obama . . . if they get bin Laden he wins and if they didn’t you can bet he had rooms full of people to blame. It’s a sad state of affairs when after nearly 4 years, killing an old, mostly irrelevant radical is his major achievement.

rplat on April 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM

“Our own Matt Lewis, showing the innate industriousness that sets Townhall contributors apart, contacted the Romney campaign and got the full text of the interview. Surprise, surprise- turns out the AP did miss some context. The exchange between Romney and reporter Liz Sidoti went as follows:

LIZ SIDOTI: “Why haven’t we caught bin Laden in your opinion?”

GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY: “I think, I wouldn’t want to over-concentrate on Bin Laden. He’s one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He’s by no means the only leader. It’s a very diverse group – Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names throughout the world. It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that.”

“Romney campaign team to the white courtesy phone…

… Romney campaign team, white courtesy phone, please.”

Seven Percent Solution on April 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM

They told me that if I voted for McCain, we would get a president who cavalierly brags about killing terrorists and would run for reelection as a cowboy, Decider-in-chief.

And they were right!

BocaJuniors on April 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Perfect synopsis.

Dark Star on April 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Clearly Romney’s point was that capturing/killing Bin Laden in and of itself would not end the “War on Terror”. A war O’s own State Department just recently declared “over“…

Over to you Team Romney….

Buy Danish on April 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM

[Sandy] Berger ambled down the stairwell and entered the Sit[uation] Room. He … edited for brevity … more discussion. Berger alternated between phone calls and watching the clock.

Then Romney’s team has to make an ad clarifying this point and then put in Clinton’s BS to nullify this. Or make the point that any half wit would have made the call, but Clinton couldn’t and here we be.

Are we surprised this is happening? No and neither should any of the potential candidates.

This is why FU to Mitch Daniels and the other spineless wonders who whine and cry about “going negative”.

kim roy on April 27, 2012 at 1:44 PM

So let me get this straight. The Obama campaign is trying to portray Romney as an extreme right winger…who wouldn’t have made the call to kill Osama?

Makes plenty of sense.

GOPRanknFile on April 27, 2012 at 1:44 PM

quoted from here:

Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said, “The killing of Osama bin Laden was a momentous day for all Americans and the world, and Gov. Romney congratulated the military, our intelligence agencies and the president.

“It’s now sad to see the Obama campaign seek to use an event that unified our country to once again divide us, in order to try to distract voters’ attention from the failures of his administration,” Saul said.

Classy, pitch perfect response to this tasteless, cheap ad. Romney should not get into a tit for tat over something like this. It’s exactly what the Obama team wants. Let others lay into Obama on a personal level and rightly criticize Obama for trying to take all the glory for himself. The more Obama tries to make himself look like the big hero who deserves the majority of credit, the more it is going to backfire on the Dems. This ad is meant to rally and remind Obama’s base of the last time they were truly excited about something Obama was involved with. Luckily, it’s also going to have the effect of energizing the conservative base, who doesn’t like the fact that Obama is trying to take all the credit. If you’ll recall, the OBL death poll bump for Obama didn’t last long last year. This won’t be the issue that decides the election.

bluegill on April 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Okay, so the Black Hawk Down Failure In Chief, who is married to “3AM Call Commercial Making Failed President Candidate Hillary” is questioning whom?

The Obumbler happened to be in the White House when Osama was iced…he then proceeded to bury him all nice like for his muslim buddies.

I think the Obumbler will make a wonderful one and only one term president…well, when he’s gone that is! We’ll look back and have some laughs and all will be well. Obumbler will be making commercials for Hillary in 2016. Won’t that be fun?!

Tbone McGraw on April 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I’m confused…

The media and Dems tell me the GOP are all warmongers who love defense spending.

But now they tell me Mitt Romney would not have mongered this particular war.

That’s really the argument the Dems/Obama are going with, huh?

/boggle

But…but…nuance!

PerceptorII on April 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Ignore him. Trolls feed on attention. Don’t give him any and he starves.

Red Cloud on April 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM

This needs repeating. Thanks.

kim roy on April 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM

It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that.”
“Romney campaign team to the white courtesy phone…

… Romney campaign team, white courtesy phone, please.”

Seven Percent Solution on April 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Wow, what a disgusting misrepresentation by the Obama campaign. Maybe this does call for a rebuttal ad… not necessarily downplaying Obama’s role in OBL’s death, but rather poitning out the shameful tactics by the Obama team.

bluegill on April 27, 2012 at 1:47 PM

When someone says your stupid, yes I call them out for that. Us big city folk, we done did learn to write proper and all. Sorry if you yokels never did.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM

…you, big city folk lol :-)…just because your poor grandma tolerates you in her basement in some inner city ghetto area, doesn’t make you educated and ‘city folk’, deluded moocher :-)…if it wasn’t for the taxpayer’s money to keep you unemployed in that basement, you’d be out in the fields, picking strawberries with the illegals…no offence meant at the illegals in this context, at least they work hard for their money…

jimver on April 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM

But Obama the Merciful sends out drones to kill all opposition including American citizens.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

FIFY. Can you imagine the outrage on the Left if Bush had done this? Yet the Prezzy of the United Stezzy makes habeas corpus disappear & the Brain Dead Left is dancing around acting like he’s handing out chocolate bars & hand jobs.

Dark Star on April 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Did we ever learn who actually gave the order for the shooting of those Somalian Pirates, back in 2009?

Buckshot Bill on April 27, 2012 at 12:25 PM

The captain of the rescue ship gave the ‘go’ order. He was authorized to do so if he saw actions on the part of the pirates that would lead him to believe that the life of the hostage was in immediate danger. When one of the pirates pointed his gun at the hostage, the order was given.

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 1:53 PM

bluegill on April 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Okay. I’d prefer ridicule to sadness, but who knows? It may just work.

totherightofthem on April 27, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Romney has never, EVER taken an Obama quote out of context… right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57329447-503544/mitt-romney-attack-ad-misleadingly-quotes-obama/

IOKIYAR.

RanchTooth on April 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Allow me to quote a few paragraphs from the link, I just referred to, as it underscores exactly what Romney was talking about:

Just because the leadership of al-Qaida has been killed, imprisoned or forced to run does not mean that the fighting stops. In fact, though the “war on terror” may be over as a concept, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor assured Michael Hirsh that the war against al-Qaida rages on. But the war is much broader than al-Qaida. Terrorism flows from a belief system and worldview that will not be crushed because a few al-Qaida leaders are gone.

The secular left refuses to understand this. Terrorism is not the only tool in the arsenal of radical Islamists. Infiltration, Islamic schools, the building of mosques in the midst of the “Great Satan,” the running of Muslim candidates for public office, the demands for more “rights” and civil liberties, while Islamists deny such things to the nations they dominate — all of this and more proves the war by whatever name one wishes to call it is not over. In fact, it is just beginning…

Buy Danish on April 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I’m glad Zero and Co. keep ramping up the scumbag rhetoric, becuase the more they do they more they make Romney look sane, even-tempered and electable. As a Romney hater myself, I realize that some people will need more of this to forget his relative failings and focus on what a lowlife POS marxist rimshot goon BHO truly is.

Western_Civ on April 27, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Romney has never, EVER taken an Obama quote out of context… right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57329447-503544/mitt-romney-attack-ad-misleadingly-quotes-obama/

IOKIYAR.

RanchTooth on April 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM

you might want to read the whole article there sport.

Fighton03 on April 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Do you realize how bad this statement makes you look?

cjw79 on April 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Only to you.

And, probably, angryed.

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Romney has never, EVER taken an Obama quote out of context… right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57329447-503544/mitt-romney-attack-ad-misleadingly-quotes-obama/

IOKIYAR.

RanchTooth on April 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM

You clueless losers epitomize classlessness – lol I really hope you brats stick with the ‘Romney is a misrepresenter like 0bamessiah, too!!!’ defense over 0bamessiah’s team’s latest blunder!

Bizarro No. 1 on April 27, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

While Obama drones on and on and on…when will folks outside the intel folks realize that dead men tell no tales…

Intel on global terrorism is being severely limited because the current rule is kill, not capture. Overhead photos and intercepted commo links can only provide so much…and no more.

That all-source, all-inter-agency special interrogation “unit” Obama and Holder promised they’d have ready so they could put an end to Bush’s “torture-them-till-they-sing” program?

Still not operational.

After more than three years.

So, Obama would rather kill ‘em all first then try to figure what they might be doing next?

And this is smart policy?

[But it does help atrit the numbers at Gitmo which will probably close for lack of occupants in a couple years anyway.]

coldwarrior on April 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Thank you, Morgen, for the update and the link to Ace. That Obama took the quote out of context to deliberately mislead is typical of this Campaigner in Chief.

In context, Romney is completely correct in his thoughts about Bin Laden. In fact, I doubt we’d have heard anything at all had the effort to kill him not succeeded.

marybel on April 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM

poor trolls, having no reading comprehension skills significantly reduces their social compatibility. No one wants to have to explain every thing to them.

joeindc44 on April 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM

It’s Friday. That means Romney paycheck day for bluegill and Buy An Apple Danish.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Pot_Kettle_etc.
Get a clue, lefty.

btw, When do you pick up your paycheck? Or do you just take it out in trade?

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Buffoons here are never happy.

If Democrats don’t kill brown people you complain. If Democrats do kill brown people, you complain.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM

You unhappy, bro?

Bein’ a racist will do that to you.

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM

It’s Friday. That means Romney paycheck day for bluegill and Buy An Apple Danish.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Pot_Kettle_etc.
Get a clue, lefty.

btw, When do you pick up your paycheck? Or do you just take it out in trade?

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Angryed takes his paycheck on his knees.

SauerKraut537 on April 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Buffoons here are never happy.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Psychological projection.

Gunlock Bill on April 27, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Angryed takes his paycheck on his knees.

SauerKraut537 on April 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Licking Obama’s “big stick”?

Gunlock Bill on April 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Gunlock Bill on April 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM

LOL, something like that.

SauerKraut537 on April 27, 2012 at 2:25 PM

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I for one am quite happy Obama had Osama Bin Ladin killed.
whether he ordered it or went along with it or whatever hee was the president at the time.

I also like that he doesn’t hesitate to let the drones kill the enemy.

He does it more than Bush did. I beliive this is because the drone program is father advanced than it was under Bush. Be that as it may i am for killing the enemy with drones.

gerry-mittbot-trying to improve his spelling and grammer for angryed

gerrym51 on April 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Buffoons here are never happy.

If Democrats don’t kill brown people you complain. If Democrats do kill brown people, you complain.

angryed on April 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM

When crazy Democrats kill Republicans and severely wound Democrats, the Democrats blame Sarah Palin. You are a weird bunch, I’ll give you that.

Buckshot Bill on April 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM

?????????

Does this mean you two are divorcing?

Gunlock Bill on April 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM

bluegill on April 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM

No, Andrea missed the boat here. Badly. Amaturish and apparently (although I haven’t read it yet), Romney was taken out of context. This needs to be spiked right now and Andrea is an amature.

Remember how often Obama said McCain wanted the war in Iraq to last for 100 years? I heard that from every independent I talked to about the last election and the issues. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Insisting that the economy is the only issue on the table when your guy has just been accused of not caring about Osama Bin Laden (and that’s exactly what the subliminal message is: Romney doesn’t care about justice, just money)—that message has got to be spiked NOW (8 hours ago) before it becomes a “fact”.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Punctuation is racist.

Happy Nomad on April 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM

I’m so ashamed.

/

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 2:39 PM

“Romney campaign team to the white courtesy phone…

… Romney campaign team, white courtesy phone, please.”

Seven Percent Solution on April 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM

It’s a bad day when your own people don’t know as much as the bloggers. Maybe they should think about putting Gingrich in the war room. Just to give these bozos a hint about quick responses…but the war room is set for charging the center, across open ground, with the other side behind a stone fence. General Picket’s charge and General Romney had best learn its consequences.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Seen on Twitter:

BREAKING: Obama orders body of Bin Laden found, revived, so he can order his killing again.

crosspatch on April 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Bin Laden is dead and we are still at war… Yup… worked like a freaking charm!

ActinUpinTexas on April 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Because they pulled him off of the 11th fairway to tell him the op was underway.

Washington Nearsider on April 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Actually, as I recall the official story he was golfing- not because he wanted to but because they didn’t want to tip their hand that Obama was diverting from his schedule. The reality is that he was practicing plausible deniability up until the very last minute so he wouldn’t get the blame Carter did when his op blew up.

Happy Nomad on April 27, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Willy McD0le – circa 2008 …

I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours… I don’t think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort,” Romney told reporters on the campaign trail.

To which the Obama campaign responded …

Conventional wisdom would have us defer to Musharraf in perpetuity. Barack Obama wants to turn the page

So here we have Ogabe – in 2008, saying that we really can’t trust the Paki government – something that everyone here AGREES with because I’ve seen all you guys post attacks on the Pakis and how unreliable they are all the time. Just remember though – Ogabe was AHEAD of you in this thinking!

Okay – soooo – Obama is elected President and he goes into Pakistan last year and DOES exactly what he said he’d do – what every Republican (except Sarah Palin) attacked him for SAYING he would do in 2008.

Score – 0gabe 1 … GOP Establishment – 0

So Obama was right – and Willy McDole was wrong.

Now – Willy McD0le thinks it’s wrong for Ogabe to point out that Willy was wrong about that whole affair …

“The kill1ng of Osama bin Laden was a momentous day for all Americans and the world, and Governor Romney congratulated the military, our intelligence agencies, and the President,” Saul said in a statement. “It’s now sad to see the Obama campaign seek to use an event that unified our country to once again divide us, in order to try to distract voters’ attention from the failures of his administration.”

Well – I’m sorry Willy – but this is politics and – you need to put on your “big boy” britches (that is, if they’ll fit over your magic underwear).

HondaV65 on April 27, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Romney quote taken out of context?

Anyone want to bet that WaPo’s fact checker rates this ad “mostly true”? Or maybe they will invent another new category: false, but true.

rcpjr on April 27, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Angryed takes his paycheck on his knees.

SauerKraut537 on April 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Licking Obama’s “big stick”?

Gunlock Bill on April 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Well, let’s be rational. Angryed is obviously a Koch brothers ringer, hired to make progressives look like perfect fools. Who can doubt it?

Sneaky, those Kochs. Ubiquitous, too. ;^)

PersonFromPorlock on April 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Thank goodness you have stopped with your pathetic, vile anti-Mormon bigotry. As for the Romney campaign’s response to this tacky ad, I thought it was pitch perfect. Politicizing OBL’s death to this extent and trying to take all the glory is not going to sit well with a lot of voters. Romney would do well to take the high road here. The Obama team is engaging in some sleazy, cheap, dishonest attacks.

bluegill on April 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM

But dear, I never opened the subject. You people did. And my “attacks” were merely stating Mormon doctrine and copying and pasting what your scriptures and your prophets say in your own history. How exactly is that an attack? If you wished to copy and paste the Nicene Creed or anything whatsoever from the Book of Common Prayer, I wouldn’t consider it an “attack” or vile. I never mentioned the Mormon Church unless one of your gang decided to attack Santorum for “worshiping idols” (Sanctamonious?) or Gingrich for his personal life. That so invites commentary on Bring ‘em Young and Smith’s sex life and if you think the Dems will give you a pass, you would be wrong. I implored you people to ignore it because whatever you post in defense, there are endless things to copy and paste in answer. Your group attacks made sure that several posters here would never vote for Romney. You conducted a great outreach program, and insisted you didn’t need our stinkin’ vote. I do believe it was YOU who actually said that if Romney wins we aren’t to “bask” in his glory (paraphrase here).

So, even at this stage of the game, you’re out making sure I sit home this NOvember. You are as wise as Romney press secretary.

Did you see Rove’s state by state evaluation of the election today? What I was trying to do—and by this, it obviously failed—was to give you folks an object lesson in what was out there. It invariably turned into ugly, vile, personal attacks and I was not the one doing that. You did that to posters and to other candidates and even other candidate’s wives. I tried from the beginning to get you people to take a damper and try to remember that IF your guy won the nomination, you’d need all those people you were mortally offending to vote for Romney and perhaps even work for him.

So, even at this stage of the game, you’re doing everything you can to make sure conservatives or someone who preferred another candidate leaves the field. What possible agenda are you pursuing here? Out of the clear blue sky (and out of context, I might add) you attack and you make it vile and personal.

I mentioned once that you folks have this weird idea that shooting your own people is a great strategy. Perhaps you should rethink that. Ask Andrea.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Yes, Obama has unveiled the entirety of his campaign for president in April. How do you like it so far?

cjw79 on April 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM

What else besides this is he going to run on?

PS, I got my ISP back and posted the link to the al-AP “poll” from last May in the Headlines thread. The actual polling breakdown had 46% Dems, 29% Repubs. That is nearly a 2 to 1 margin.

Del Dolemonte on April 27, 2012 at 3:53 PM

HondaV65 on April 27, 2012 at 2:53 PM

I think the objection then was the public assertion that he’d go into Pakistan. Remember the we know what you’re doing and you know we know game? My objection to the way Obama did it was the public circus he made of it instead of the black ops it should have been. Do you remember the CIA guy who killed two people on the street in Pakistan and that Hillary was going to the mat to get him out? Guess what that guy knew.

As regards this happening on Obama’s watch, that’s great but I repeat, Obama himself would have stopped any chance of find Osama via his policy of killing terrorists rather than interrogating them. Also, as regards his courageous act in ordering the operation, there were too many people who knew Osama was there and also knew Obama knew. Imagine how that would have looked politically if it had leaked–and believe me, it would have leaked.

Even then, Obama made sure he had plausable deniability and turned the operation over to an Admiral.

Do you remember if Bush invited Hollywood in and outted the names of the men who captured Saddam? I don’t think so. Bush, unlike Obama, never forgot he was Commander in Chief and publicity wasn’t his primary goal.

BTW, I’m a great admirer of Governor Palin and despise the attacks against her. We got a difficult and frustrating hand, but we’ve got to play it. (Bluebill notwithstanding)

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM

btw, When do you pick up your paycheck? Or do you just take it out in trade?

Solaratov on April 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

he’s on food stamps…when did they start calling that ‘paycheck’….

jimver on April 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Some context:

(via iCasualties.org)

Total US deaths in Afghanistan since 2001: 1952
Total US deaths in Afghanistan since Jan 2009: 1322 (67.7%)
Total US deaths in Afghanistan since May 2011: 384 (19.6% in latest year of a 10+ year effort, and 29% of the total since Obama tool office)

If the killing of Osama was such a great tactical achievement in the global war on Islamic terrorism, why are we still losing so many brave warfighters?

BKeyser on April 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Obama’s Osama operation was an anticlimax, empty theater directed by a man for whom appearance is everything. Thanks to GWB, Bin Laden ceased to matter a long time before he met his maker.

Mr. Arkadin on April 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM

excellent point…

jimver on April 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM

So, even at this stage of the game, you’re out making sure I sit home this NOvember.

Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Still butt hurt because your guy lost, I see, and to one of those EEEVIL MORMONS no less.

More popcorn please. And while your at it, throw some dogs on the barby!!

Gunlock Bill on April 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Was Romney’s quote about Bin Laden taken out of context? Sure looks like it, via Ace.

It’s all the ObaMao campaign has left. Lies, distortions and slanders. Of course, the paranoid ABR misfits are okay with that.

cicerone on April 27, 2012 at 5:20 PM

No, Andrea missed the boat here. Badly. Amaturish and apparently (although I haven’t read it yet), Romney was taken out of context. This needs to be spiked right now and Andrea is an amature
Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Blah blah blah…I never mentioned the Mormon Church unless one of your gang decided to attack Santorum for “worshiping idols” (Sanctamonious?) or Gingrich for his personal life. blah blah blah…
Portia46 on April 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM

You and r2b are a match made in heaven. Sadly we have to endure the hellish nature of their pathetic commentary here on Earth. For you to allege that calling Santorum “sanctimonious” was an excuse for you to go on rants about Mormons is disingenuous at best. Then again, someone who cannot spell “amateur” or “amateurish”, might be confused by the meaning of the word “sanctimonious”, and might believe it was literally an attack on his sincerely held Catholic beliefs instead of a word to describe his “holier than thou” comments, like when he whined incessantly about “Romney’s money”. Moreover, it is beyond my comprehension what Gingrich’s personal moral failings have to do with Romney’s religion. If you could point to a parallel failing in Romney’s life you might have a point, but you can’t so you’re left with nothing but nonsensical excuses for engaging in bigotry.

Buy Danish on April 27, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Much ado about nothing. Nobody cares because Bin Laden was yesterday and gas prices are today. If this is the best his team can do, it’s pathetic.

writeblock on April 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM

As to why the ad came out now instead of later–my guess is that the “celebrity president” ad scored points, making Obama looked superficial and unpresidential. This appears to be the antidote to that.

writeblock on April 27, 2012 at 9:05 PM

They had Bill Clinton voice the add??!!
The man who passed up multiple chances to get Bin Laden BEFORE 9/11!

Ha

mseries on April 28, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Waste of ad money. Won’t win him votes. Won’t damage Romney.

writeblock on April 28, 2012 at 12:59 AM

The whole purpose of this ad is to make the Romney campaign so furious that they’ll make a misstep. I hope the Romney campaign remains calm and plans their response to this carefully.

Must Read: The Real Story of the Bin Laden raid

http://patdollard.com/2011/05/obama-hesitated-–-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Obama still taking credit for other people’s work, for other people’s “bold” decisions.

In his speech the night bin Laden was killed, Obama portrayed himself as a key part of the narrative; now he’s exploiting it again, giving himself credit–Obama is the “I_Me_Mine” Presidency.
The truth is far different: t was Panetta who gave the order; it was Obama who delayed giving the order for the raid, frustrating and angering everyone from the military to the Sec/Def.

Obama, taking credit:

“Shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against Al Qaeda,” Obama said that night. “I was briefed on a possible lead. … I met repeatedly with my national security team. … Finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.”

But the truth is:

President Obama kept hesitating on giving the order to have Bin Laden killed so Leon Panetta had to work around Obama’s hesitation to act on killing Bin Ladin.

Every time that military and intelligence officals would make progress and Obama would start to make a decision, Jarrett would intervene and tell Obama about how innocent Pakistani could be lost, and Obama would hesitate.

Panetta, Gates, Clinton and other members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff were getting so frustrated that Secretary Gates was talking of resigning before he had originally intended to; therefore, Panetta had to start a “masterful manipulation.”

According to Pat Dollard:

Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault.

The now famous photo of Obama viewing the operation unfold is not the complete truth. The complete truth is that the Vice President knew of the days events before the President did.

Additionally, the military personnel in that room did not defer to President Obama but to Hilary Clinton and Robert Gates, they hardly acknowledged the President’s presence.

I am sure if it had been left up to President Obama and Jarrett, Bin Laden would still be alive today.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-hesitated-panetta-ordered-bin-laden-killed

mountainaires on April 28, 2012 at 10:13 AM

he’s on food stamps…when did they start calling that ‘paycheck’….

jimver on April 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM

It’s how his masters boost his self esteem.

And ed doesn’t know the difference.

(It’s amazing, too, how many people who receive welfare money refer to it as a ‘paycheck’.)

Solaratov on April 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

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