Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on April 26, 2012 by Allahpundit

“House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) poured cold water Thursday on efforts by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) to advance immigration reform by suggesting that such a plan would not be able to pass the GOP-led House this year.

“Asked by a reporter whether he thought the House could pass an immigration measure this year that focused on more than just border security, Boehner said: ‘There’s always hope,’

“The speaker said he has spoken to Rubio about his plan. ‘I found it of interest, but the problem with this issue is that we’re operating in a very hostile political environment. To deal with a very difficult issue like this, I think it would be difficult at best.’”

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“Gaby Pacheco, a vocal immigrant activist, accepted a tantalizing invitation last week from an unlikely source: Republican Sen. Marco Rubio wanted her to help craft a bill that could legalize the children of some illegal immigrants.

“Two hours later, Pacheco and other activists got a different pitch from their more familiar White House allies. Be wary of Rubio and his plan, two of President Obama’s top advisers told them in a meeting. It wouldn’t go far enough and wasn’t likely to succeed…

“The plan puts Obama in a box. Democrats are reluctant to see Rubio’s efforts as anything other than a political gambit to repair his party’s tarnished image with Hispanics and boost his own profile as a potential vice-presidential pick or future White House contender.

“But if Obama does not at least try to work with Rubio, he could risk losing a centerpiece of his appeal to Hispanic voters — that he is their fiercest ally in Washington and that the GOP is to blame for lack of action on fixing the country’s immigration ills.”

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“Despite the hype that the GOP moved to the hard right in the primary, immigration was the main issue where Romney himself did so, sounding a hard conservative line to position himself to the right of Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich. If there was one issue where he would “flip-flop” back to the center, it’s likely to be immigration.

“Now Rubio is offering both Romney and the GOP a second chance to court Hispanic voters, and putting the White House in a tough spot. The freshman senator may not become Romney’s running mate, but he could be giving him a bigger political gift with his immigration advocacy.”

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“Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has thrust himself into the raging illegal immigration debate, proposing a plan that would create a path to legal status for children of illegal immigrants — putting him at odds with an immoveable wing of the Republican Party on this issue.

“It’s a risky move for a potential vice presidential candidate, and it puts presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney in a pickle as he may have to decide whether to back an immigration plan rolled out by one of the party’s rising Hispanic stars, or stick to the strident anti-illegal immigrant positions he staked out during the Republican primary…

“Asked if Romney needed to lighten up his rhetoric, Rubio said the GOP has to better communicate it’s the pro-immigration party.

“‘Not just Gov. Romney — but in general, over the last five years that [the] Republican Party has come to be viewed as the anti-illegal immigration party.’”

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“In an interview at his Tucson campaign office earlier this month, [Democrat Richard] Carmona, who is running in the race to succeed retiring Sen. Jon Kyl (R), had some blunt criticism for Republicans on the topic of illegal immigration.

“‘Why do you think they’re reworking their initial vitriolic, far-right, ‘deport everybody’ (message)?’ he asked. ‘Why? Do you think that all of a sudden there’s an epiphany and their hearts have opened up to people who are struggling? I don’t think so. I think it’s a political calculation – that they recognized they cannot win their races and stay in office unless they embrace the Hispanic community. So, I really feel it’s very disingenuous.’…

“‘Look, look,’ Carmona said. ‘Do you think it just popped up at this time – six, seven months before the election – and everybody goes, ‘Oh gee, let’s embrace these people now’? … So, it’s crazy. The fact of the matter is these are political calculations and the public is fed up with it.’”

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“So to sum up-

“We’re going to grant the [premise] the Democrats have been running on that this is something we have to act on (separate from border security/enforcement)

“We’re going to do this to try and win votes of voters who will simply say, ‘Um, why should I support your half-assed measure when the other guys are offering me the whole thing?’

“We’d also offer the Democrats a new and exciting line of attack… ‘Republicans think you’re good enough to work for them and fight and die for this country but not to vote’. Some enterprising liberal will no doubt find a way to equate that with slavery. Fun times!

“And while we’re getting no credit or votes from this, we’ll also be doing the Democrats job for them by driving a wedge between members of our party.”

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“Rubio said the White House has also been ‘actively trying to torpedo my efforts’ by calling in immigration advocates and urging them not to back Rubio’s bill.

“‘I think Speaker Boehner was acknowledging how difficult it is going to be given the highly politicized climate the president is contributing to, and I agree it’s going to be hard to pass,’ Rubio said. ‘But I am hopeful that we are going to come up with an idea [that] makes sense, that calls to Americans’ spirit of humanitarianism, that recognizes that these kids do not have legal right to be here, but that appeals to our conscience.’…

“Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), who heads the Senate Democrats’ policy and communication shop, said Boehner’s comments ‘show how far Sen. Rubio has to go in trying to gain Republican support for any proposal to help immigrant students.’”

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MeatHeadinCA on April 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM

It sounds like there is a good chance that he might believe it. I have to be at work at 6:45 so I won’t listen to his speech tonight, I’ll do it tomorrow. But anyway, look at the reaction here, sounds like a career breaker to me. For a vote that, even if is were a monolith, it is not a majority. And supposedly only legals vote. Are we sure they have some deep feeling that illegals should get a pass? My feelings for this are like my feelings for TARP, either we have laws or we don’t, we need to stop making it up as we go along.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:38 PM

At the rate he is going just think what Barco Mubio will be like when he get’s Juan McVain’s age.

VorDaj on April 26, 2012 at 11:38 PM

I’m sure the American public is closer to Rubio’s view. Hearing him describe his plan….I think it’s quite sensible.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:34 PM

All of this may be true. But does it need to be brought up now, before the election? Does Romney benefit or lose if he accepts Rubio’s proposal? or if he rejects it? Why (and again, not intentionally, but with all good intentions for the GOP and for Romney and for himself), why put Romney through this Hobson’s choice now?

de rigueur on April 26, 2012 at 11:38 PM

The big majority of Americans are against illegal “immigration”, including shamnesties.

VorDaj on April 26, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Rubio is against illegal immigration also. The issue is how to solve it. And I wouldn’t describe his plan as amnesty.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Dire Straits on April 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM

yepper

cmsinaz on April 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM

But does it need to be brought up now, before the election?

If there is a serious problem…..it needs to solved. It shouldn’t matter if it’s an election year or not.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I’m sure the American public is closer to Rubio’s view. Hearing him describe his plan….I think it’s quite sensible.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:34 PM

What is so sensible about it?

JPeterman on April 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Rubio is against illegal immigration also.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM

No he clearly is not. If he says he is then he is a liar.

VorDaj on April 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Let us just secure the border first…

… Then we can have this conversation.

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I agree with seal the borders first.. then we can argue about what to do with the illegals currently living here.

Anything else.. my thinking is no matter what we say or do, Obama and his pet MSM are going to scream racist till the election,.. only an ignorant fool would believe them.. but they will not let up,.. and there are a lot of suckers among the independents.

Third rail.. leave the immigration issue till after Romney wins.

mark81150 on April 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Romney was doping just fine on illegal “immigration” and then Rubio jumps up as says “look at me!”.

VorDaj on April 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Rubio is working for the Obama “Shiny object” re-elect campaign.

Focus people.

Economy, Jobs, Gas prices, inflation, are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

PappyD61 on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

de rigueur on April 26, 2012 at 11:35 PM

I’m truly not sure. I was reacting to your comment on Romney being forced to take up his plan. That would be pretty presumptive of a rookie senator. Just the other day the speculation was that he was giving this big foreign policy speech to prove he has the chops to be Gov. Romney’s VP and now it is viewed as ruining Gov. Romney. Needless to say it makes it a bit tough to know what to believe. So I’ll pick none of it. It’s all smoke and mirrors to make the demographic think they care when none of them do. Both parties are perfectly happy with the status quo although the Dems would like to squash the voter ID because it makes it harder for the illegals to vote for them.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Don’t look at the Act as a single move.

Rubio/Boehner have openly admitted to talking about it. That’s not a simple “hey, I got this idea…”. They’ve talked overall logistics.

Boehner’s not going to sign off on running a bill that imperils the House, especially if the numbers for a Romney victory are 50/50 at best.

…But what if Rubio intros a bill before Barry can make his amnesty plea for votes?

Nothing moves out of the Senate without Barry’s approval, so what does he do?

If Barry backs Rubio’s plan, Marco becomes the man who solved immigration, while, at minimum, campaigning for Romney, let alone in the veep slot, or as a guaranteed Cabinet pick.

None of that helps Barry, so he can’t go along with, but he and the Dems can’t be the obstructionists, either; that would only embarrass the Latino orgs and costs votes.

So Barry has two options. His first would be for the Latino orgs to attack Rubio, but Marco has already brought some into his fold. They can’t stab him in the back without giving Rubio an inroad to wedge between them and the communities. Their is no Uncle Tom card because the cultural strengths differ.

Barry’s only option is to say Rubio has some good ideas, but they have a competing bill. Barry then has to put a bill forth that does, what, exactly?

And that’s the problem. If Barry goes full-on Amnesty, what’s the reaction going to be in south-western swing states?

Hispanics win either way, so who in the end are they going to trust? Rubio, or Barry, who did nothing until Marco stepped up?

Romney can point to “self-deportation trends” for vindication and say, (if Rubio’s not his veep), he likes aspects of Rubio’s plan, but the “sausage-making” of Congress and election makes it impossible for him to say what the final outcome will be.

At worst, Marco is neutralizing the issue for the campaign. It allows Mitt to paint the Dems as the “not serious” about solving the issue which creates questions as to what exactly the Dems are after. That’s the inroad we need, because it’s proof of the proggy plantation mentality in effect.

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Rubio is working for the Obama “Shiny object” re-elect campaign.

Focus people.

Economy, Jobs, Gas prices, inflation, are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

PappyD61 on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

But look at me! Look at me!!! – Barco Mubio

VorDaj on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

mark81150 on April 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM

hear hear

cmsinaz on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

If there is a serious problem…..it needs to solved. It shouldn’t matter if it’s an election year or not.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:40 PM

We have more serious problems, like unemployment and being on the verge of national fiscal collapse. Those won’t get fixed if Obama remains in office. Solution: Get Mitt elected. The illegals can wait till we get the big flames extinguished.

a capella on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

It seems that Rubio likes “thrusting himself” into many things where his opinion is not welcome. There is something not right about this guy, but I don’t know what it is. It’s like he got elected to the Senate, and now he’s off to whatever else he thinks he can conquer, with hair afire. The only thing missing is his magic cape.

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Yep! Until we do it’s “Groundhog’s Day” all over again.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:46 PM

It seems that Rubio likes “thrusting himself” into many things where his opinion is not welcome. There is something not right about this guy, but I don’t know what it is. It’s like he got elected to the Senate, and now he’s off to whatever else he thinks he can conquer, with hair afire. The only thing missing is his magic cape.

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

A magic cape with a Hope-and-Change emblem on it.

VorDaj on April 26, 2012 at 11:47 PM

What is good for America is usually good for everyone.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Completely agree. I dislike the pandering to different groups… which requires first setting them apart from other Americans as a special group.

I don’t know that Rubio is killing his career here. But, in my view, he is exposing himself as a political neophyte. As Dark Star said upthread, maybe it’s a plot to convince everyone he shouldn’t be VP this round. Funny, up to this point I couldn’t have cared less whom Romney chose as VP. Now I do.

de rigueur on April 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM

a capella on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

And the funny thing about it is that our unemployment problem has been our best illegal immigration solution. There was an article in the headlines about young Mexicans saying the U.S. isn’t worth the trouble anymore.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM

VorDaj, you may have something there. Haha!

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM

cmsinaz on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2012 at 11:49 PM

It seems that Rubio likes “thrusting himself” into many things where his opinion is not welcome. There is something not right about this guy, but I don’t know what it is. It’s like he got elected to the Senate, and now he’s off to whatever else he thinks he can conquer, with hair afire. The only thing missing is his magic cape.

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:45 PM

God forbid Senators actually have opinions.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:49 PM

At worst, Marco is neutralizing the issue for the campaign. It allows Mitt to paint the Dems as the “not serious” about solving the issue which creates questions as to what exactly the Dems are after. That’s the inroad we need, because it’s proof of the proggy plantation mentality in effect.

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I hope so..I like your comment here..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Yesterday I confessed I don’t know much about Rubio, and asked why it was being said he’d be a liability to Romney.. I see now why that was said..

My personal views are very pro legal immigration,.. the old fashioned way.You take a number and wait till we call you,.. but once in, we’ll welcome you like a brother..

This whole illegal thing, to me, it’s like line jumping, mobbing the gate to get in free while the suckers play by the rules. That’s not only horribly unfair to the one who obeyu the laws, but it’s telling folks.. you can break any law you want to, if you have a big enough mob…

Once we seal the borders,.. I’m at a loss.. 20 million illegals? That many?.. and de we really deport every single one, then tell em to wait two years, then apply the correct way?

or something else..

I just know everyone is fed up with the issue.

mark81150 on April 26, 2012 at 11:51 PM

He may have all the opinions he likes, I just don’t care about any of them. He’s simply a freshman senator who hasn’t earned his chops, so his opinions hold no weight with me. I just wish he’d stop running around making a spectacle of himself.

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

evenin’ peeps.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Yep! Until we do it’s “Groundhog’s Day” all over again.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Ditto…ditto!

KOOLAID2 on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Completely agree. I dislike the pandering to different groups… which requires first setting them apart from other Americans as a special group.

I don’t like pandering either but let’s get real….in modern day politics you have to pander. George Bush pandered to Evangelicals and guess what he won….twice.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

evenin’ peeps.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

…hi peeper!

KOOLAID2 on April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Interesting analysis.

The interview with the reporter seems to bear this out. Rubio knows that legal immigrants are opposed to amnesty, etc. so he’s not worried about alienating them. He may indeed be trying to co-opt the Dems and remove a campaign issue from them.

Cleombrotus on April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM

evenin’ peeps.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

And just what was on topic about that?

cozmo on April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I’d actually buy that if I could believe that the GOP was capable of coordinating such a sophisticated and disciplined tactical maneuver. And they felt that it was worth exposing Romney to a certain amount of “third rail” risk (to use mark81150 on April 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM’s formulation).

de rigueur on April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Simply put: IF the person who was brought to this nation by their parent(s) illegally has reached the age of 18 years and failed to go to the nearest consulate or embassy and apply for legal status in their own right, accepting responsibility for themselves as an adult, they are as guilty of shattering existing federal immigration law as their parents were before them.

This demonstrates a complete disregard for the rule of law, and a clear disdain for the rights of the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation.

We are asked by Senator Rubio to demonstrate ‘compassion’ for these people. We’ve provided them with an excellent education and medical care while they were in this nation, all paid for with the taxes of hard working citizens and legal immigrants.

IF these young people are in fact still minors, they should be with their parents and if their parents are in this nation illegally, they should accompany their parents back to their nation of origin where they can apply for readmission to the United States LEGALLY.

The problems with Rubio’s plan are many, including carving out preferential treatment for one group of illegal aliens over all others.

We are a nation of laws and those laws must be enforced equitably without preference or prejudice. This principle of equality under the law is one of our founding principles and a pillar of our democratic republic.

However, the fact is that if a child is 6 years old, and was brought here by their parents when they were less than a year old, that child would already have been here for 5 years, which is one of the key features of Rubio’s qualifications, and as such that child would be granted a ‘non immigrant visa’. In so doing, we would be obliged to allow that child’s parent(s)to remain in the nation caring for that child until the child reached the age of majority. 18 years of age. That’s 12 years that the original illegal alien(s) would be allowed to remain BECAUSE of that child. Does anyone really believe that we would remove those parents after a dozen years?

That’s AMNESTY. Its said that there are about 2-3 million of these ‘kids’ who would qualify under Rubio’s plan. If every kid had 2 parents, that’s 4-6 million MORE illegal aliens who would get a de facto amnesty. We’re told that there are an estimated 11.6 illegal aliens in the nation today. By those numbers, Rubio would be granting AMNESTY to as many as 9 MILLION of them.

Why hasn’t the family of these ‘children’, some of whom have been here for 20 years, applied for legal status for these ‘kids’? The young lady whom Rubio ‘consulted’ on his plan has graduated college and, yet, has failed to apply for legal status for herself. Why should we grant her exception to the law that she has so casually and willfully shattered in her own right?

The citizens and legal immigrants of this nation have ALREADY been very compassionate toward these ‘kids’ ( some of whom are now as old as 35 years of age.) We’ve provided them with an excellent education and medical care out of the tax dollars meant to provide for citizens and legal immigrants. If neither they, nor their parents, saw fit to respect our laws and our nation and apply for legal status, its not our fault. The opportunity was always there.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2012 at 11:54 PM

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I hate to agree with the “hard right” people here but there are folks in the GOP who are accepting the inevitability of the 11 or 14 million staying since we can’t catch them and send them home. Logistical nightmare, anyone?

Remember President Bush? I don’t think amnesty would have been a problem for him.

There are rough plans to morph the party to try to catch the “wave” and anticipation of a “wave” beyond this one. They don’t mention a very different country.

Bring the troops home.

IlikedAUH2O on April 26, 2012 at 11:54 PM

But, but, but, I read last night that the Mexicans are turning tail and heading back to their homeland …………

angrymike on April 26, 2012 at 11:55 PM

The Democrats are always form over substance so they do not want to solve the problems of illegal immigrants, they will hang out the potential of a bill, to get their votes. Now, what if Rubio puts a plan together, what will the Democrats do.

Let’s look at the possibilities, Rubio puts forth a plan, Senate loves it, House doesn’t. No one wins because it took a Republican to get a plan passed in the Senate.

Rubio puts forth a plan and the Democrats block it. Republicans win. Obama promised immigration reform, it takes a republican, Rubio, to put it through and the Democrats block it.

Rubio refuses to put through a plan, until after the election. Republicans win. Republicans didn’t promise immigration reform Obama did. If they hold their plan until after the election, they won’t be held responsible.

Finally, although unlikely, Democrats offer an immigration reform plan. They lose, Latinos feel they’re being played so Democrats can get their votes, Republicans are willing to wait until after the election and Latinos won’t hold them responsible.

The Democrats have completely screwed up the immigration debate.

bflat879 on April 26, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I agree about the pandering; I can’t stand it. Either you’re an American, or you are not. If you are, your vote and my vote count just the same. If you are not, then you don’t get a vote. It’s infuriating to me every time I hear Latino, Asian-American, etc. It’s just nonsense.

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:56 PM

God forbid Senators actually have opinions.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:49 PM

I think they are questioning the timing. Ultimately his opinions could cost him the title of senator, that’s a chance they all take.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:56 PM

“Asked if Romney needed to lighten up his rhetoric, Rubio said the GOP has to better communicate it’s the pro-immigration party.

How about being the Pro legal immigration party!

“‘Not just Gov. Romney — but in general, over the last five years that [the] Republican Party has come to be viewed as the anti-illegal immigration party.’”

Exactly..we aren’t for pro illegal activity block head. And everything the illegal activity brings. What BS.

“Despite the hype that the GOP moved to the hard right in the primary, immigration was the main issue where Romney himself did so, sounding a hard conservative line to position himself to the right of Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich. If there was one issue where he would “flip-flop” back to the center, it’s likely to be immigration.

No sh$t- I knew that was coming. Yeah, Mitt is a immigration hard as$. After he slammed Perry for his Tx DA and Newt…I don’t re-call his excitement or comments over the dream act.

Why cant we be the party of pro-legal immigration? protecting our borders, and the GOP actually articulate what all this illegal activity perpetuates? National Security issues and Economic?..to name a couple. This isn’t about we hate Mexicans or anyone else. But let them keep painting that picture..Idiots.No one ever comes out and articulates WHY this is a real damn issue.
Where the hell are the nightly news stories about what goes on in border states?
I lived in one growing up and it has turned good places into 3rd world hell holes. Parts of So Cal look like Tijuana. The gang activity and violence has spread like bacteria. Back in the 80′s, we had bi-lingual class rooms-when the other classes were filled..American kids got put in the bi-lingual classes. This was in the 80′s. (I was one of those kids-till my mom raised hell).
Arizona, Texas, NM, have the same sh$t going on…
But the won is attacking those states for trying to protect themselves.
You couldn’t pay me to go live near the border again.

I said it here a while ago..in True Kind style- Rubio will betray you. He is a Bushie..Jeb was his mentor.

Meanwhile in Fl, we have our own problems.

Thats my rant. I am so sick of this- *spit*. The GOP sucks…I might start voting third party.

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bazil9 on April 26, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Drew’s wrong on this one. The liberal attack equating it to slavery is weak, especially because they can apply for citizenship. It’s a workable solution to a problem that isn’t going to be solved by simply demanding we round these people up. Not doing anything is what Democrats want. Hispanics are naturally conservative, pro-lifers, etc. nothing allows them to demagogue over ad over.

cpaulus on April 26, 2012 at 11:57 PM

It’s infuriating to me every time I hear Latino, Asian-American, etc. It’s just nonsense.

MustLoveBlogs on April 26, 2012 at 11:56 PM

It must be nice living in a Utopian world where no one has an ethnicity!!! Reminds me of a John Lennon song ….”Imagine all the people….”

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:58 PM

And just what was on topic about that?

cozmo on April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Hail Ron Paul-full of grace…
Ron Paul is my Shepard.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I think they are questioning the timing. Ultimately his opinions could cost him the title of senator, that’s a chance they all take.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 11:56 PM

I don’t see this costing him his title of Senator. You know all voters think like Hot Air commenters.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM

bazil9 on April 26, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Brother, you have to watch NBC more and get brainwashed.

Then it all lots like big oil’s fault.

IlikedAUH2O on April 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Terryannonline, you may have something there. Utopia would be lovely, however we both know it does not exist. The pandering is ridiculous; everyone sees it for what it is.

MustLoveBlogs on April 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM

rofl..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Does anyone really believe that we would remove those parents after a dozen years?

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2012 at 11:54 PM

We’re not removing them now, and we’re not likely to in the future either, regardless of what plan is implemented. Face it.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2012 at 12:01 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Hey Kiddo!

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:01 AM

bazil9 on April 26, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I thought you live in Florida.

katy the mean old lady on April 27, 2012 at 12:02 AM

I’m sure the American public is closer to Rubio’s view. Hearing him describe his plan….I think it’s quite sensible.

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Deep thoughts…try to master them, beyond your shallow view of Rubio.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:03 AM

The pandering is ridiculous; everyone sees it for what it is.

MustLoveBlogs on April 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM

So you find GOPers who pander to Evangelicals (I’m one by the way) equally as ridiculous?

terryannonline on April 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Maybe but he’s from Florida and the immigrant situation is a bit different there since most are Cubans and get amnesty if they make it to shore.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM

During the Rubio,Crist chase for the seat- Rubio came off that he would be tough on immigration. Some Hispanic groups have been critical over him for that. He is playing both sides.
We will see.
Fl has its own immigration problem.

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM

At worst, Marco is neutralizing the issue for the campaign. It allows Mitt to paint the Dems as the “not serious” about solving the issue which creates questions as to what exactly the Dems are after. That’s the inroad we need, because it’s proof of the proggy plantation mentality in effect.

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I concur with Dire Straits. I like your reasoning & hope this is what is going on. Wouldn’t it be great if, after hearing ad nauseum for the last 4 years from the Brain Dead Left that Obama is “playing 11th dimensional chess,” that Romney/Rubio/Boehner are the ones actually playing 10 steps ahead of The Once?

Dark Star on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

I hope so..I like your comment here..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Thanks. Everyone needs to remember that none of this stuff is being done in a vaccuum.

If Palin’s ordeal taught us anything, it’s that a person has to buck hard to go it alone.

Rubio was on stage with Mitt, this week. They’ve talked about this, which is why Rubio has admitting to discussing this with Boehner and McConnell.

It’s a united effort to take the issue off the table and Marco is the only guy with credibility on the right, to do it.

It’s the same thing with Ryan; he had the most credibility to launch a budget during the campaign.

But what did we hear from the Dems? They were going to hang Romney with Ryan’s budget.

So what’s happened in the meantime? Obama left himself open to the charge of being in over his head. That forced Reid to get Conrad to table a budget, which was simply Bowles/Simpson. How does offering a three-year old plan help Barry, and not leave him open to the charge of “what have you been waiting for”?

It’s the repeater for Barry’s presidency; just look at Keystone and Student Loans. If Gingrich wants to redeem himself, he should hit the circuit and list every last-minute issue Barry is finally tackling, and keep asking “WTF has this guy been waiting for”?

budfox on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

It must be nice living in a Utopian world where no one has an ethnicity!!! Reminds me of a John Lennon song ….”Imagine all the people….”

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Actually– and this is the real complaint– only certain ethnicities, or genders, or sexual preferences, or whatever other divisions are in the works– are “approved.”

Anglo-Scots-Irish-Celtic border reivers don’t count.

de rigueur on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Rubio is a child of the TEA party.

He dumped the TEA into the sea and has become a young snotty punk. He is a disaster from so many levels.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:06 AM

We have over 34,000 troops in Japan.

Why? Are they going to stop China? Like the Japanese can’t?

They might like Texas and working as bounty hunters.

IlikedAUH2O on April 27, 2012 at 12:06 AM

I said it here a while ago..in True Kind style- Rubio will betray you. He is a Bushie..Jeb was his mentor.

bazil9 on April 26, 2012 at 11:57 PM

His mask has come off because of his arrogance, indeed. At least it was sooner than Obama’s.

VorDaj on April 27, 2012 at 12:07 AM

The pandering is ridiculous; everyone sees it for what it is.

MustLoveBlogs on April 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Yes, but pandering and politics are practically synonyms.

Dark Star on April 27, 2012 at 12:07 AM

bflat879 on April 26, 2012 at 11:55 PM

That’s my view, a big dog and pony show that all ends with nothing. It’s what they are best at.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:07 AM

The Democrats have completely screwed up the immigration debate.

bflat879 on April 26, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I could probably agree with your last sentence. Don’t forget about the MSM being in the democrats’ pocket. Latinos/hispanics really only hear that democrats are for them, and republicans against. Do you think that anything Rubio/GOP brings forward won’t get skewed by the media?

The second thing to consider is the mind-set. Of the folks who aren’t fooled by liberal media, the vote really is split between makers and takers.

Finally, how is it a victory for the US to reward law-breakers and keep a sieve for a border(s)? (Reagan was supposed to be the last amnesty, remember?)

RedCrow on April 27, 2012 at 12:07 AM

I have been to Tokyo lately. I studied Isshinryu. Probably can’t spell it.

The gangs there would kill the poor Chinese Army.

IlikedAUH2O on April 27, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Deep thoughts…try to master them, beyond your shallow view of Rubio.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Oh good Lord!

“The purpose of the institutions we established, from the United Nations to the World Bank and the IMF was to spread peace and prosperity, not to assert narrow American interests,” said Sen. Rubio.

Are you kidding me?

JPeterman on April 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM

de rigueur on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Precisely! And Terryann, pandering is pandering, no matter the favored group.

MustLoveBlogs on April 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Ronbots have been busy in Lubbock recently. Near Tech, one of the little Hitler youth got a hold of some chalk and was writing ‘infowars.com’ and info for when Alex Jones is on local radio on the sidewalk-and I took a photo of a Ronulan sign-specifically targeting the NDAA-on a pole @ Slide and 82nd.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Are you kidding me?

JPeterman on April 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM

No. This link is courtesy of VorDaj, from last night’s QotD, I believe. It’s just part of the reasons why you should despise the punk.

He was for the Lybian intervention and is becoming more and more insufferable by the seconds.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

terryannonline on April 26, 2012 at 11:58 PM

The point is that everyone has “ethnicity” but once you are an American that should be the common good. I notice no one talks about JFK’s inaugural speech anymore. Today it’s “what’s in it for me”. If we don’t turn that around we are done.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

I am sure he is doing this as part of a supposedly intelligent plan by Team Romney. It will backfire. *Munches on popcorn*

McDuck on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Most are Cuban down South but we have a huge Puerto Rican population that is growing. Being common wealth, they are fine.
We also have a huge influx of S.Americans, Haitians,and other islanders. We have large communities growing here.

I live in Central Fl. Very different then South Fl.

From what I have read..we are in the top 4 as far as Hispanic population. CA,NY,TX, then Fl. Our ethnic population is quite different then out west.

Here ya go..

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Yes, Dark Star, I agree with that. Pandering, politics – it’s all the same.

MustLoveBlogs on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Dark Star on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

It would be awesome..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM

de rigueur on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

I’m a Scottish/English Jew.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Are you kidding me?

JPeterman on April 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM

No kidding. Rubio puts the U.N. above the U.S., just like Obama.

VorDaj on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Ron Paul

John the Libertarian on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Rubio has gone from a state elected official to a US Senator and now to an “internationalist” is real short period of time…

d1carter on April 27, 2012 at 12:12 AM

budfox on April 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Dire Straits on April 26, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Cleombrotus on April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Dark Star on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM
budfox on April 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Okay, guys. Here’s hoping it’s 11th dimensional chess and not dream-acting. This kind of strategery would but be unprecedented in modern Republican history.

de rigueur on April 27, 2012 at 12:12 AM

The point is that everyone has “ethnicity” but once you are an American that should be the common good. I notice no one talks about JFK’s inaugural speech anymore. Today it’s “what’s in it for me”. If we don’t turn that around we are done.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

+ 100..That was poetry lady..Very nice..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2012 at 12:12 AM

The point is that everyone has “ethnicity” but once you are an American that should be the common good. I notice no one talks about JFK’s inaugural speech anymore. Today it’s “what’s in it for me”. If we don’t turn that around we are done.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Thank you…I don’t walk around stating my ethnicity before “American”.
Thx for explaining…geez.

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Are you kidding me?

JPeterman on April 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM

I said the same thing when I saw that.
(UN to Brussels!)

RedCrow on April 27, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Ron Paul

John the Libertarian on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM

rofl..That was just mean man..:):)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2012 at 12:14 AM

de rigueur on April 27, 2012 at 12:12 AM

It is a very interesting concept for sure..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I’m a Scottish/English Jew.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Shalom, bonnie lassie.

de rigueur on April 27, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I thought you live in Florida.

katy the mean old lady on April 27, 2012 at 12:02 AM

I do. I wasn’t born here or raised here..till my teens.

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:15 AM

That was just mean man..:):)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Ron Paul. Chit chat. Ron PaUl.

John the Libertarian on April 27, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Well, now I guess I do have my finger on it.

JPeterman on April 27, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Today it’s “what’s in it for me”. If we don’t turn that around we are done.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Indeed…today “…ask what your country can do for you”, forgetting that it’s the taxpayers who toil, while these creeps celebrate, nearly non-stop.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Thx for explaining…geez.

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:13 AM

I was gonna comment on this, too, but was typing another too long.

My grandma came here in the first decade of the 20th century. She was four or five. Her mother gave her a dime and told her to go to the butcher for two pork chops. Grandma asked, “But how do you say that in English?” Her mother smacked her, and said, “The butcher speaks Polish! Go get the meat.”

The moral of the story (obviously) is that she wanted to be an American. Today, not so much.

RedCrow on April 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Rubio’s doing a head fake. It’s an election year, folks.

John the Libertarian on April 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Well, now I guess I do have my finger on it.

JPeterman on April 27, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Keep the laser on him. He is too young to be that ambitious.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

I notice that we have a lot of Europeans working retail here in northern Florida, but we don’t seem to have a huge amount of any particular ethnicity.

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

He was for the Lybian intervention and is becoming more and more insufferable by the seconds.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Marco Rubio

Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass
He’ll give you the answer that deceivers will endorse
He’s always on a dissemblers course
Talk to Marco Rubio

Marco Rubio just yakkity yaks an idiotic streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even respect anymore a single thing he has to say?

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And this one’ll talk in prevaricating circles til his voice is hoarse
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?

Well, listen to this!
He is Marco Rubio

Cheshire Cat on April 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Rubio’s doing a head fake. It’s an election year, folks.

John the Libertarian on April 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM

No, he’s not. He’s going to offer the DREAM act…to reconcile with Obama’s…then in 2014, be it Obama or Mitt, Amnesty. You can bookmark this.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Yep. Yep. and Yep.

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Amnesty. You can bookmark this.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Nope. Bush got creamed over this. Reagan’s was the LAST amnesty. The right will never tolerate it.

John the Libertarian on April 27, 2012 at 12:21 AM

I hate the timing of his proposal. Reeks of political desperation.

Client Number Nine on April 27, 2012 at 12:21 AM

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:13 AM

If you can’t be an ethic American you have to find another demographic to demand special attention. I’m still trying to figure mine out. Woman seems the most likely since white Christian is marked for open season. I actually think they are allowed to take stuff away from me for those two things. Maybe I’ll do the old person thing!

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Cindy Munford on April 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

We have a lot of Russians in Orlando, actually.

bazil9 on April 27, 2012 at 12:22 AM

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