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	<title>Comments on: EPA: Hey, sorry about that whole &#8220;crucify&#8221; thing, we&#8217;re all about being ethical</title>
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		<title>By: Common Sense with Paul Jacob &#187; Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t crucify me, EPA dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense with Paul Jacob &#187; Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t crucify me, EPA dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daily Links – April 26, 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Links – April 26, 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] EPA: Hey, sorry about that whole “crucify” thing &#124; Hot Air &#8220;The EPA has scrambled to contain the damage from the clip highlighted by Morgen Richmond this morning, which went viral yesterday, showing an EPA administrator bragging about crucifixion as a means to impose the EPA’s will on American subjects, er, citizens.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] EPA: Hey, sorry about that whole “crucify” thing &#124; Hot Air &#8220;The EPA has scrambled to contain the damage from the clip highlighted by Morgen Richmond this morning, which went viral yesterday, showing an EPA administrator bragging about crucifixion as a means to impose the EPA’s will on American subjects, er, citizens.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zomcon JEM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zomcon JEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Old Country you are in fact wrong. The legislation passed is passed with enabling language allowing the bureaucrats to then determine the details. They are given wide authority to interpret the COngressional intent and then create rules which they then draft and allow for industry and other interested parties comment.

Congress should do away with enabling legislation. This and the other silliness of the DOL&#039;s quickly aborted war on farming suggest all that you need to know about DC. It is not your friend, regardless of who is running it. I long thought we need to showsome compassion id reducing the leviathon state to the people who are there - but I have changed my mind - eliminate half of the management staff - just cut them - we can &quot;crucify&quot; them so the remaining employees understand the danger in acting like a power drunk a**hole. At least it is a process they will be familiar with. Then cut 5% of the remaining staff and those who remain get a 5% pay cut. 

This has got to stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Old Country you are in fact wrong. The legislation passed is passed with enabling language allowing the bureaucrats to then determine the details. They are given wide authority to interpret the COngressional intent and then create rules which they then draft and allow for industry and other interested parties comment.</p>
<p>Congress should do away with enabling legislation. This and the other silliness of the DOL&#8217;s quickly aborted war on farming suggest all that you need to know about DC. It is not your friend, regardless of who is running it. I long thought we need to showsome compassion id reducing the leviathon state to the people who are there &#8211; but I have changed my mind &#8211; eliminate half of the management staff &#8211; just cut them &#8211; we can &#8220;crucify&#8221; them so the remaining employees understand the danger in acting like a power drunk a**hole. At least it is a process they will be familiar with. Then cut 5% of the remaining staff and those who remain get a 5% pay cut. </p>
<p>This has got to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: democratsarefools</title>
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		<dc:creator>democratsarefools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better late than never. But an expedited investigation two years ago would have stopped some regs from being implemented and with it jobs and money saved in the private sector. Inhofe needs to go viral to the public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better late than never. But an expedited investigation two years ago would have stopped some regs from being implemented and with it jobs and money saved in the private sector. Inhofe needs to go viral to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: upinak</title>
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		<dc:creator>upinak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;gekkobear on April 27, 2012 at 3:37 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

why to use the words I said and bend them to your whim.

You would be great on the Obama team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>gekkobear on April 27, 2012 at 3:37 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>why to use the words I said and bend them to your whim.</p>
<p>You would be great on the Obama team.</p>
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		<title>By: viking01</title>
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		<dc:creator>viking01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep trying to call Sen. Mary Landrieu&#039;s office for her &lt;strike&gt;take&lt;/strike&gt; spin on this but her phone line is always busy.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep trying to call Sen. Mary Landrieu&#8217;s office for her <strike>take</strike> spin on this but her phone line is always busy.</p>
<p>/s</p>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, not the Byzantines, they would not have crucified anyone. And regarding the Byzantines it would have been more appropriate to reference the Turkish descruction of Roman towns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, not the Byzantines, they would not have crucified anyone. And regarding the Byzantines it would have been more appropriate to reference the Turkish descruction of Roman towns.</p>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Armendariz seems completely oblivious to his anachronism.

There were no &quot;Turkish&quot; towns in the ancient Roman Empire. Did he mean Anatolian towns? Or did he mean the later, Byzantine Roman Empire?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armendariz seems completely oblivious to his anachronism.</p>
<p>There were no &#8220;Turkish&#8221; towns in the ancient Roman Empire. Did he mean Anatolian towns? Or did he mean the later, Byzantine Roman Empire?</p>
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		<title>By: gekkobear</title>
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		<dc:creator>gekkobear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I also think there are some EPA inner agencies like safe drinking water that provide a good service, as we all like clean drinking water.

There are some things that are good, but 90% can be tossed out.

upinak on April 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So what percent Mercury would you allow in any drinking water?  Any?  How many ppb (parts per billion)?

Remember it&#039;s naturally occurring in some areas, and restricting this too much will force rural customers to quit using well water; or to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on filters for their wells.

You may very well destroy some towns and farms if you set this wrong... but go ahead and declare a one-size-fits-all policy that will work for every county in the entire nation.

Even the stuff that is &quot;good&quot; is stuff they screw up.  On a regular basis...


DAMMIT... I was trying to use a real example from about a decade ago and I got it wrong.  I &quot;misremembered&quot;... Arsenic was the fight, not mercury (still naturally occurring so the broad strokes of the argument are correct).

http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv24n3/specialreport.pdf

But the one-size-fits-all rule was still one that serious impacted many rural areas that have naturally occurring arsenic; and the EPA had no interest in allowing them time to work to try to meet the drastic new ruling they implemented (until Bush overrode them).

SO I can stand by my &#039;Even the stuff that is &quot;good&quot; is stuff they screw up&#039; statement.  And I&#039;ll leave the mercury argument above; admitting I didn&#039;t have this 100% in my head recalling the fight in 2001-2002.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I also think there are some EPA inner agencies like safe drinking water that provide a good service, as we all like clean drinking water.</p>
<p>There are some things that are good, but 90% can be tossed out.</p>
<p>upinak on April 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>So what percent Mercury would you allow in any drinking water?  Any?  How many ppb (parts per billion)?</p>
<p>Remember it&#8217;s naturally occurring in some areas, and restricting this too much will force rural customers to quit using well water; or to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on filters for their wells.</p>
<p>You may very well destroy some towns and farms if you set this wrong&#8230; but go ahead and declare a one-size-fits-all policy that will work for every county in the entire nation.</p>
<p>Even the stuff that is &#8220;good&#8221; is stuff they screw up.  On a regular basis&#8230;</p>
<p>DAMMIT&#8230; I was trying to use a real example from about a decade ago and I got it wrong.  I &#8220;misremembered&#8221;&#8230; Arsenic was the fight, not mercury (still naturally occurring so the broad strokes of the argument are correct).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv24n3/specialreport.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv24n3/specialreport.pdf</a></p>
<p>But the one-size-fits-all rule was still one that serious impacted many rural areas that have naturally occurring arsenic; and the EPA had no interest in allowing them time to work to try to meet the drastic new ruling they implemented (until Bush overrode them).</p>
<p>SO I can stand by my &#8216;Even the stuff that is &#8220;good&#8221; is stuff they screw up&#8217; statement.  And I&#8217;ll leave the mercury argument above; admitting I didn&#8217;t have this 100% in my head recalling the fight in 2001-2002.</p>
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		<title>By: JEM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, the EPA regional administrators are the gauleiters of the eco-fascist state.   

They are the representants en mission of the Agenda 21 Republic of Virtue. 

I&#039;d be very surprised to find out that Armendariz is anything unusual.  They are all zealots.  If they weren&#039;t they wouldn&#039;t have gotten the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, the EPA regional administrators are the gauleiters of the eco-fascist state.   </p>
<p>They are the representants en mission of the Agenda 21 Republic of Virtue. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very surprised to find out that Armendariz is anything unusual.  They are all zealots.  If they weren&#8217;t they wouldn&#8217;t have gotten the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutnodjmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mutnodjmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 02:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://templeofmut.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/romes-bureaucrats-better-than-the-epas-at-increasing-propsperity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rome&#039;s Bureaucrats Better than the EPA&#039;s at Increasing Prosperity!&lt;/a&gt;A comparison, with graphics, of how Rome&#039;s takeovers left areas prosperous, whereas Obama/Government interference has the opposite effect.  For example, &lt;strong&gt;PAX ROMANA&lt;/strong&gt; vs &lt;strong&gt;POX OBAMA&lt;/strong&gt;.  In conclusion -- &lt;em&gt;Rome knew how to create wealth. And, despite the fact that Roman soldiers had little qualms about inflicting pain, I would also argue they showed more compassion during their crucifixions than the EPA does during theirs.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://templeofmut.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/romes-bureaucrats-better-than-the-epas-at-increasing-propsperity/" rel="nofollow">Rome&#8217;s Bureaucrats Better than the EPA&#8217;s at Increasing Prosperity!</a>A comparison, with graphics, of how Rome&#8217;s takeovers left areas prosperous, whereas Obama/Government interference has the opposite effect.  For example, <strong>PAX ROMANA</strong> vs <strong>POX OBAMA</strong>.  In conclusion &#8212; <em>Rome knew how to create wealth. And, despite the fact that Roman soldiers had little qualms about inflicting pain, I would also argue they showed more compassion during their crucifixions than the EPA does during theirs.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Rome&#8217;s Bureaucrats Better than the EPA&#8217;s at Increasing Prosperity! &#171; Temple of Mut</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/26/epa-hey-sorry-about-that-whole-crucify-thing-were-all-about-being-ethical/comment-page-2/#comment-5779367</link>
		<dc:creator>Rome&#8217;s Bureaucrats Better than the EPA&#8217;s at Increasing Prosperity! &#171; Temple of Mut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 02:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Administration&#8217;s. And to compare Rome&#8217;s bureaucratic efficiencies with those of of the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Labor, Transportation Security Agency (or most other government entities outside [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Administration&#8217;s. And to compare Rome&#8217;s bureaucratic efficiencies with those of of the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Labor, Transportation Security Agency (or most other government entities outside [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SukieTawdry</title>
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		<dc:creator>SukieTawdry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That wasn&#039;t just a &quot;poor choice of words,&quot; it was an offensive, tasteless anecdote, a parable, even, illustrating the universal truth that is the EPA. And he told it with such relish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t just a &#8220;poor choice of words,&#8221; it was an offensive, tasteless anecdote, a parable, even, illustrating the universal truth that is the EPA. And he told it with such relish.</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz described how the Romans pacified territory they conquered. The Romans wanted the riches of the lands they captured. They wanted the profits, the taxes, the trade. This means that the Romans wanted to limit the destruction to just the amount necessary to pacify what they conquered.

A war of conquest differed from a punitive war. Punitive wars were designed to punish, if not destroy enemies, usually external. Sometime they were in retaliation against raids by non-Roman enemies, sometimes to punish a rebellious province. The scope was far more than crucifying the first 5 men they saw; it could include crucifying the entire village and maybe the neighboring ones as well. It could include the total destruction of food sources with the deliberate goal of starving everybody to death. Call it &quot;total war.&quot; 

The term &quot;sowing with salt&quot; wasn&#039;t just a motto, it was a punitive action.

So, EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz is describing a &quot;war of conquest&quot; by the EPA against &quot;foes of global warming&quot; (the oil and coal companies). 

I think that after President Romney takes office, he should introduce EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz, Lisa Jackson, and all of Obama&#039;s political appointees to the other &quot;Roman Way&quot;: Total war.  I think that they should all be fired; some should be prosecuted. I think their pensions be confiscated, and they (and any family members) be prohibited from working for ANY GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT FUNDED/SUBSIDIZED or LOBBYING organization for the next 10 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz described how the Romans pacified territory they conquered. The Romans wanted the riches of the lands they captured. They wanted the profits, the taxes, the trade. This means that the Romans wanted to limit the destruction to just the amount necessary to pacify what they conquered.</p>
<p>A war of conquest differed from a punitive war. Punitive wars were designed to punish, if not destroy enemies, usually external. Sometime they were in retaliation against raids by non-Roman enemies, sometimes to punish a rebellious province. The scope was far more than crucifying the first 5 men they saw; it could include crucifying the entire village and maybe the neighboring ones as well. It could include the total destruction of food sources with the deliberate goal of starving everybody to death. Call it &#8220;total war.&#8221; </p>
<p>The term &#8220;sowing with salt&#8221; wasn&#8217;t just a motto, it was a punitive action.</p>
<p>So, EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz is describing a &#8220;war of conquest&#8221; by the EPA against &#8220;foes of global warming&#8221; (the oil and coal companies). </p>
<p>I think that after President Romney takes office, he should introduce EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz, Lisa Jackson, and all of Obama&#8217;s political appointees to the other &#8220;Roman Way&#8221;: Total war.  I think that they should all be fired; some should be prosecuted. I think their pensions be confiscated, and they (and any family members) be prohibited from working for ANY GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT FUNDED/SUBSIDIZED or LOBBYING organization for the next 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: dogsoldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogsoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congress is calling for his resignation, for all the laughs that will get them. Note: Eric Holder is still at the DoJ. The Emperor scoffs at such suggestions..

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/26/rep-fleming-epa-official-who-wants-crucify-companies-needs-to-resign/

FTA:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The use of threats and intimidation to force energy companies to submit to an extremist agenda may be fitting under a totalitarian regime, but it is never acceptable in the United States,” Fleming said in a Thursday afternoon statement. “The sad reality is that Mr. Armendariz employed this strategy. Without real evidence, the EPA tried to stop a company that was safely drilling with hydraulic fracturing. The case was finally dismissed earlier this year, but it stands as an example of the EPA’s willingness to ‘crucify’ energy companies.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The truth is Zero&#039;s legion does this to anyone they see as an &quot;undesirable.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress is calling for his resignation, for all the laughs that will get them. Note: Eric Holder is still at the DoJ. The Emperor scoffs at such suggestions..</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/26/rep-fleming-epa-official-who-wants-crucify-companies-needs-to-resign/" rel="nofollow">http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/26/rep-fleming-epa-official-who-wants-crucify-companies-needs-to-resign/</a></p>
<p>FTA:</p>
<blockquote><p>The use of threats and intimidation to force energy companies to submit to an extremist agenda may be fitting under a totalitarian regime, but it is never acceptable in the United States,” Fleming said in a Thursday afternoon statement. “The sad reality is that Mr. Armendariz employed this strategy. Without real evidence, the EPA tried to stop a company that was safely drilling with hydraulic fracturing. The case was finally dismissed earlier this year, but it stands as an example of the EPA’s willingness to ‘crucify’ energy companies.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The truth is Zero&#8217;s legion does this to anyone they see as an &#8220;undesirable.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Links – April 26, 2012&#124;Politifreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Links – April 26, 2012&#124;Politifreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] EPA: Hey, sorry about that whole “crucify” thing &#124; Hot Air &#8220;The EPA has scrambled to contain the damage from the clip highlighted by Morgen Richmond this morning, which went viral yesterday, showing an EPA administrator bragging about crucifixion as a means to impose the EPA’s will on American subjects, er, citizens.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] EPA: Hey, sorry about that whole “crucify” thing &#124; Hot Air &#8220;The EPA has scrambled to contain the damage from the clip highlighted by Morgen Richmond this morning, which went viral yesterday, showing an EPA administrator bragging about crucifixion as a means to impose the EPA’s will on American subjects, er, citizens.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So those were ROMAN not Grecian columns Obama was using, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So those were ROMAN not Grecian columns Obama was using, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: curved space</title>
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		<dc:creator>curved space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It shouldn&#039;t be about appearances but this guy really looks the part of faceless tax-sucking government bureaucratic drone. Maybe it&#039;s a chicken-egg thing. Did he take on the characteristics of a soulless  wealth-destroying parasite because he went to work for the EPA or did go to work for the EPA because he was already a soulless twit with aspirations of being a wealth-destroying parasite and so naturally gravitated to the EPA?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shouldn&#8217;t be about appearances but this guy really looks the part of faceless tax-sucking government bureaucratic drone. Maybe it&#8217;s a chicken-egg thing. Did he take on the characteristics of a soulless  wealth-destroying parasite because he went to work for the EPA or did go to work for the EPA because he was already a soulless twit with aspirations of being a wealth-destroying parasite and so naturally gravitated to the EPA?</p>
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		<title>By: AesopFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AesopFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;This is the same reason the TSA gropes kids and the elderly. It’s to show that if they’ll do that to someone who is obviously not a terrorist, they’ll do it to anyone.
This is how most law enforcement works. Come down hard on the easy targets, and others will fall in line.
It’s how most authoritarian systems work.
lorien1973 on April 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/04/26/tsa-two-fer-agents-manhandle-child-with-leg-braces-greenlight-drug-runners-for-cash/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; At least they have the boiler-plate right:&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;strike&gt;TSA&lt;/strike&gt; EPA has reviewed the incident and determined that our officers followed proper &lt;strike&gt;screening procedures&lt;/strike&gt; strong, fair and effective enforcement of the environmental laws passed by Congress  in conducting a modified &lt;strike&gt;pat-down on the child&lt;/strike&gt; crucifixion of this evil polluter.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is the same reason the TSA gropes kids and the elderly. It’s to show that if they’ll do that to someone who is obviously not a terrorist, they’ll do it to anyone.<br />
This is how most law enforcement works. Come down hard on the easy targets, and others will fall in line.<br />
It’s how most authoritarian systems work.<br />
lorien1973 on April 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/04/26/tsa-two-fer-agents-manhandle-child-with-leg-braces-greenlight-drug-runners-for-cash/" rel="nofollow"> At least they have the boiler-plate right:</a></p>
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<strike>TSA</strike> EPA has reviewed the incident and determined that our officers followed proper <strike>screening procedures</strike> strong, fair and effective enforcement of the environmental laws passed by Congress  in conducting a modified <strike>pat-down on the child</strike> crucifixion of this evil polluter.
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They hired a bunch of contractors at the EPA that were hounding the heck out of industrial facilities last summer.  It was all about calculating fugitive CO2 emmissions.  I looked at the formulas they had sent and noticed some similarity to the point of identicalness with &quot;estimated fugitive methane gas releases&quot; from 2004.  Those rules ended up being scrapped.

None of the people that called me to tell me I had demonstrations coming due could answer a single question about the variables and assumptions needed to crank out the calcs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They hired a bunch of contractors at the EPA that were hounding the heck out of industrial facilities last summer.  It was all about calculating fugitive CO2 emmissions.  I looked at the formulas they had sent and noticed some similarity to the point of identicalness with &#8220;estimated fugitive methane gas releases&#8221; from 2004.  Those rules ended up being scrapped.</p>
<p>None of the people that called me to tell me I had demonstrations coming due could answer a single question about the variables and assumptions needed to crank out the calcs.</p>
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		<title>By: weaselyone</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/26/epa-hey-sorry-about-that-whole-crucify-thing-were-all-about-being-ethical/comment-page-2/#comment-5778056</link>
		<dc:creator>weaselyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Obama Administration has said that this is not their policy and that they do not share his views.  I beg to differ.

If the Obama Administration doesn&#039;t share their views, they sure seem to pick people cut from the same cloth and place them in positions of power:

Al Armendariz, Region 6 EPA says he wants to &quot;crucify&quot; companies.

Both David Michaels and Jordan Barab, top 2 officials at OSHA, have publicly stated their goal to &quot;Publicly Shame&quot; companies, even when those companies have only been accused of violating safety standards.  They also have never written a retraction on their public shame campaigns when citations are withdrawn or overruled in court.

Hilda Solis, Secretary of Labor, in her first speech said &quot;There is a new Sheriff in Town&quot; essentially putting companies on notice that she was going to be coming after them.

This to me sounds like the Agencies have received the message that Obama wants his regulators to follow and that they have received that message loud and clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama Administration has said that this is not their policy and that they do not share his views.  I beg to differ.</p>
<p>If the Obama Administration doesn&#8217;t share their views, they sure seem to pick people cut from the same cloth and place them in positions of power:</p>
<p>Al Armendariz, Region 6 EPA says he wants to &#8220;crucify&#8221; companies.</p>
<p>Both David Michaels and Jordan Barab, top 2 officials at OSHA, have publicly stated their goal to &#8220;Publicly Shame&#8221; companies, even when those companies have only been accused of violating safety standards.  They also have never written a retraction on their public shame campaigns when citations are withdrawn or overruled in court.</p>
<p>Hilda Solis, Secretary of Labor, in her first speech said &#8220;There is a new Sheriff in Town&#8221; essentially putting companies on notice that she was going to be coming after them.</p>
<p>This to me sounds like the Agencies have received the message that Obama wants his regulators to follow and that they have received that message loud and clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose Dung</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/26/epa-hey-sorry-about-that-whole-crucify-thing-were-all-about-being-ethical/comment-page-2/#comment-5778048</link>
		<dc:creator>Moose Dung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t we just have this conversation on the BofA gun manufacturer thread?

Here: http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/bank-of-america-tells-gun-manufacturer-it-no-longer-wants-their-business/

and here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/bank-of-america-tells-gun-manufacturer-it-no-longer-wants-their-business/comment-page-2/#comment-5761463&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Hmmm...maybe a pattern is emerging?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t we just have this conversation on the BofA gun manufacturer thread?</p>
<p>Here: <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/bank-of-america-tells-gun-manufacturer-it-no-longer-wants-their-business/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/bank-of-america-tells-gun-manufacturer-it-no-longer-wants-their-business/</a></p>
<p>and here: <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/bank-of-america-tells-gun-manufacturer-it-no-longer-wants-their-business/comment-page-2/#comment-5761463" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;maybe a pattern is emerging?</a></p>
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		<title>By: weaselyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>weaselyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Had an EPA inspector show up at the facility I work at.  We are located quite a way from the nearest EPA office.  He also brought a State inspector with him.

I used the Greenhouse Gas Calculator on EPA&#039;s website after they left and determined that they would need to plant 10 sapplings and have them grow for 10 years to balance out the CO2 emissions that they released on their trip.  The EPA inspector actually drove a pickup about 300 miles each way just to come pay us a visit.  I thought the EPA only drove cars that emitted unicorns and rainbows.  The sad thing is, our facility makes stuff that was probably in his vehicle.

We didn&#039;t share this tidbit with them as they would probably want to &quot;crucify&quot; us if we had shared it, not that they weren&#039;t completely over the top during the inspection anyways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had an EPA inspector show up at the facility I work at.  We are located quite a way from the nearest EPA office.  He also brought a State inspector with him.</p>
<p>I used the Greenhouse Gas Calculator on EPA&#8217;s website after they left and determined that they would need to plant 10 sapplings and have them grow for 10 years to balance out the CO2 emissions that they released on their trip.  The EPA inspector actually drove a pickup about 300 miles each way just to come pay us a visit.  I thought the EPA only drove cars that emitted unicorns and rainbows.  The sad thing is, our facility makes stuff that was probably in his vehicle.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t share this tidbit with them as they would probably want to &#8220;crucify&#8221; us if we had shared it, not that they weren&#8217;t completely over the top during the inspection anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: upinak</title>
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		<dc:creator>upinak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are liberals waging a war on hydraulic fracturing? There isn’t nearly enough evidence to wage such a war.

blink on April 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Don’t you know the old saying. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When you have neither law, nor facts, pound the table and scream.

Snake307 on April 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, but why do they WANT to ban fracturing? Is it because it sounds scary, is it because of the movie gasland, or is it because they just don’t want natural gas to be inexpensive??

blink on April 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is an due to environmental cause projects.  They scream it is polluting water, but even the EPA in a 2006 executive summary has stated there is no evidense, even though the EPA is still doing &quot;studies&quot; to see if it does.  

And, of course, politics and money.]]></description>
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<blockquote>Why are liberals waging a war on hydraulic fracturing? There isn’t nearly enough evidence to wage such a war.</p>
<p>blink on April 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Don’t you know the old saying. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When you have neither law, nor facts, pound the table and scream.</p>
<p>Snake307 on April 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but why do they WANT to ban fracturing? Is it because it sounds scary, is it because of the movie gasland, or is it because they just don’t want natural gas to be inexpensive??</p>
<p>blink on April 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It is an due to environmental cause projects.  They scream it is polluting water, but even the EPA in a 2006 executive summary has stated there is no evidense, even though the EPA is still doing &#8220;studies&#8221; to see if it does.  </p>
<p>And, of course, politics and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Annar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next EPA mandate will eliminate those gas guzzling SUVs by bringing back covered wagons. To eliminate the methane pollution that animal power would cause more money would go into windmill drive train research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next EPA mandate will eliminate those gas guzzling SUVs by bringing back covered wagons. To eliminate the methane pollution that animal power would cause more money would go into windmill drive train research.</p>
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