EPA: Hey, sorry about that whole “crucify” thing, we’re all about being ethical

posted at 10:41 am on April 26, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The EPA has scrambled to contain the damage from the clip highlighted by Morgen Richmond this morning, which went viral yesterday, showing an EPA administrator bragging about crucifixion as a means to impose the EPA’s will on American subjects, er, citizens.  The EPA’s Richard Armendariz apologized late last night for his remarks, and the EPA rushed to assure people that they are all about “ethical enforcement”:

The Obama-appointed Environmental Protection Agency official who explained that the agency uses a “crucify them” enforcement philosophy against oil and gas companies apologized for his comments on Wednesday night.

“I apologize to those I have offended and regret my poor choice of words,” Region 6 EPA Administrator Al Armendariz said in a statement provided to The Daily Caller. “It was an offensive and inaccurate way to portray our efforts to address potential violations of our nation’s environmental laws. I am and have always been committed to fair and vigorous enforcement of those laws. …

While Armendariz apologized, EPA Assistant Administrator for Enforcement and Compliance Assurance Cynthia Giles asserted that the agency is still committed to ethical enforcement of the law.

“Strong, fair and effective enforcement of the environmental laws passed by Congress is critical to protecting public health and ensuring that all companies, regardless of industry, are playing by the same rules,” she said in comments provided to TheDC. “Enforcement is essential to the effectiveness of our environmental laws, ensuring that public health is protected and that companies that play by the rules are not at a disadvantage. The same holds true for companies involved in responsible and safe development of our nation’s domestic energy resources.”

Sure they are.  Why, just ask the Sacketts about the EPA’s idea of “ethical enforcement.”  They ruled that the land that the Sacketts bought were wetlands after the Sacketts starting building a house on residential-zoned land even though it had not been classified as such beforehand, and then refused to allow them to access the court system without paying tens of thousands of dollars each day that they delayed the EPA’s mandated abatement.  The Supreme Court hit the EPA with a unanimous smackdown on a process which could only be called a financial crucifixion of the Sacketts, and a lesson to everyone else — just as Armendariz described in the video.

Don’t count Senator James Inhofe among the easily impressed with this apology and endorsement of the EPA’s approach to enforcement:

Oklahoma Republican Sen. James Inhofe is not buying the mea culpa offered by the EPA official who bragged about the agency’s “crucify them” enforcement philosophy against oil and gas companies.

“His apology was meaningless,” Inhofe told The Daily Caller in a Thursday morning interview.

“You’re going to treat people like the Romans crucified the church? Get real,” he said.

According to Inhoffe, Obama-appointed Region 6 EPA Administrator Al Armendariz’s claim in his apology that the agency is focused on “fair and vigorous enforcement” isn’t supported by the facts.

Inhofe appeared on Fox and Friends this morning to talk about his intent to investigate the EPA, and to tie Armendariz’ comments to Barack Obama’s war on domestic oil and gas production, especially gas:

Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) on Thursday blasted an Environmental Protection Agency official’s claim that the agency was using a “crucify them” strategy against oil and gas companies, calling it a part of President Barack Obama’s “war on domestic energy.”

“Let’s keep in mind, this is all a part of Obama’s war on domestic energy,” Inhofe said on “Fox & Friends.” “He’s the one who said that we have good natural gas and it’s plentiful and all of that but we’ve got to stop hydraulic fracturing. This is the war on hydraulic fracturing.”

It’s more than a war on hydraulic fracturing, or on energy production.  It’s a war on liberty, waged by bureaucrats who want to crucify people like the Sacketts in order to pacify the rest of us.  The apology won’t fool anyone.


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This guy can say he is sorry from now till his doom.
It is not his words.
This is what He and all the Obama appointments believe.
His words just happened to mirror his core beliefs.
If he say, “I’m sorry, I didn’t meant to say it like I said it, I meant to LIE and forgot!”

The heavy hand of Communism is upon us all.

Delsa on April 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Fire the Region 6 Administrator. Now.

dczombie on April 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Government criminals.

AttaBoyLuther on April 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

He’s not sorry he said it. Just sorry he got caught. By his own admission in the video, this wasn’t his first use of the crucify analogy.

dczombie on April 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

This is the same reason the TSA gropes kids and the elderly. It’s to show that if they’ll do that to someone who is obviously not a terrorist, they’ll do it to anyone.

This is how most law enforcement works. Come down hard on the easy targets, and others will fall in line.

It’s how most authoritarian systems work.

lorien1973 on April 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Find the few most offending EPA officials and crucify them, see if they can find substitutes.

anikol on April 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Are you serious? I am proud of what he’s done.

P.

BobMbx on April 26, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Add this to the mountains of material they should use for the upcoming television comercials This stuff is devastating to their side.

newportmike on April 26, 2012 at 12:19 PM

My problem with the GOP is that this anti-America agenda has been transparent since inauguration day, yet, like Bush and McCain, they sit on it, let it fester until the public absorbs it, believes it, and then, only during election time(okay, mostly)do they dare attack it.

The one they back-stabbed, Sarah Palin,has been carrying their water from day one, while they tip-toe around it, lest they upset their friends across the aisle and in the media.

Don L on April 26, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I’ve been dueling with EPA since the 1977 Clean Air Act. This has always been their approach to enforcement. Find someone who forgot to file form XXX and make an example of him. Don’t bother the high dollar campaign donor dumping toxic waste into the river, but crucify the small business operator who never heard of form XXX. Dumb choice of words in the age of cell phone cameras, but honest.

2ndMAW68 on April 26, 2012 at 12:25 PM

The ONLY solution to the EPA’s illegal behaviour is a round or two of very public MASS FIRINGS and a MASSIVE CUT IN EPA FUNDING!!!
Go get ‘em, Inhoff!!!

landlines on April 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Would it be appropriate for the people doing the mass firings to use M-1 Garands from Korea, which Obama massively banned?

Not advocating anything, just being a smartass.

Old Country Boy on April 26, 2012 at 12:25 PM

I think we should keep some agencies. Such as the USGS Earthquake/Volcano and Tsunami centers. They do provide a service to the public that does keep us safe, to some degree.
upinak on April 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM

It’s a ridiculously simple standard: Is this something a state can do for itself? In the case of Tsunami or earthquake forecasting, not really. Those things affect people hundreds of miles away from where they started.

But, aside from defense, about 90% of the things the government does are insanely inefficient to handle on a federal basis: feeding a homeless person; teaching a child; regulating hiring and firing; etc., etc., etc….

I also think there are some EPA inner agencies like safe drinking water that provide a good service, as we all like clean drinking water.

Well, that’s just the point: there is no state where people DON’T like clean drinking water — any more than there is a state where people like stupid kids and starving people. So why on earth does it make sense for the federal government to mandate what standards my state has for any of those things?

In theory, the EPA could have been designed to only handle border disputes between states. But it’s ridiculous to have a hyphothetical conversation about something that flew completely off the rails forty years ago. The EPA has proven, beyond any possible doubt, that it is utterly incapable of doing anything even remotely like what its job was supposed to be. Water rights have been on the books for hundreds of years. The proposed “cure” to make this more efficient has proven a hundred times worse than the disease.

What you’re talking about amounts to one healthy tonail on an otherwise completely gangrenous limb. Just tell the pateint, in no uncertain terms, that it’s got to be amputated — NOW! Don’t do anything to make that process harder than it has to be.

logis on April 26, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Is this why the EPA came down so hard on the Sacketts? I wonder how they gotten chosen to be an example.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM

The parasite has grown to the point of killing the host.

jodetoad on April 26, 2012 at 12:30 PM

logis on April 26, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Are you sure about the stupid kid part? Maybe they just don’t know the difference anymore.

Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 12:31 PM

The EPA is the most unethical, corrupt body in American government.

pat on April 26, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM

You’re right…that as close to an apology we get from our overlords.

d1carter on April 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

The EPA couldn’t abuse enforcement of bad laws and regulations if our congress did not pass the bad laws in the first place. Congress has never, never, understood the laws of unintended consequences. The people you should be mad at are the congressmen and senators, not necessarily the empowered bureaucrats.

Old Country Boy on April 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

But, aside from defense, about 90% of the things the government does are insanely inefficient to handle on a federal basis: feeding a homeless person; teaching a child; regulating hiring and firing; etc., etc., etc…. there is no state where people DON’T like clean drinking water — any more than there is a state where people like stupid kids and starving people. So why on earth does it make sense for the federal government to mandate what standards my state has for any of those things?
logis on April 26, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Are you sure about the stupid kid part? Maybe they just don’t know the difference anymore.
Cindy Munford on April 26, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. The point is not that any given state will be perfect at anything; only that there is no rational reason to asume that the federal government is BETTER at any of those things than the average state would be.

You may personally believe that things like envirocommunism and creationism are “stupid.” But it’s really none of your business, unless you happen to live in either Oregon or Mississippi. On the other hand, when the federal government mandates the former subject and prohibits the latter, that same curriculum suddenly becomes FIFTY TIMES more stupid than it would be if any single state adopted it.

logis on April 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM

The EPA is the enemy within.

Axion on April 26, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Heads should roll at the EPA just like at the Secret Service and the GSA. This is inexcusable.

Axion on April 26, 2012 at 12:56 PM

It’s a war on liberty, waged by bureaucrats who want to crucify people like the Sacketts in order to pacify the rest of us.

I think it’s more along the lines of intimidating the rest of us.

ButterflyDragon on April 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM

It’s more than a war on hydraulic fracturing, or on energy production. It’s a war on liberty…..

He is the DOTUS.

What’s going on in the EPA and the DOE and Labor and Homeland Security (with the Muslim brotherhood guy and the Luis Gomert/Plano Texas documents) is just AMAZING.

At the rate this is going I’LL BE DONATING TO ROMNEY before this is over on 11/6.

PappyD61 on April 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I’m sure there is more. The Sackett’s are just one of many stories of EPA thuggery. They are attempting to move on from this as quickly as possible. Before we get day after day of the EPA going out after legitimate businesses and homeowners just trying to live their lives.

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM

I’m sure there’s more as well. I’m still deeply suspicious that the whole persecution of Gibson Guitar was more about their not having a unionized workforce, whereas Martin Guitars does. IMO, the ruse of using so-called “unauthorized” imported woods in their fretboards was just that, a ruse. I remember reading that Martin uses those exact imported woods in their fretboards, but somehow, strangely, they weren’t singled out. Yet Gibson gets their factories raided, their stock taken (“stolen” is a more apt word), and are forced to suspend operations for a time. Wonder if a union organizer showed up the next day.

PatriotGal2257 on April 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM

The EPA couldn’t abuse enforcement of bad laws and regulations if our congress did not pass the bad laws in the first place.
Old Country Boy on April 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

It doesn’t really work that way. All Congress does is set up “enabling legislation” to create the agency. Then, like a headless, ever-growing monster, it creates thousands and thousands of pages of regulations. And these agencies are motivated to make their regulations as intrusive and self-conflicting as possible, because this increases their power to arbitrarily punish anyone they wish.

But there is a bright side to all this: it allows each individual Congressman to claim that it’s not his fault. While, at the same time, it allows him to occasionally play the role of the Shining Knight and step in and submit earmarked exemptions to rescue any company that’s willing to pay him a big enough bribe campaign donation.

So this whole thing is actually a perfect system. (That’s assuming, of course, that you look at it solely from the government’s point of view. ‘Cause the rest of us are totally screwed.)

logis on April 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I didn’t read all the comments but do have personal experience with the EPA. Most would be amazed if you knew the countless millions the EPA costs small communities all across America. Having served on a Water & Sewer Authority it’s incredible the amount of frivolous and extraneous regulation they force on Sewer projects. It literally adds millions per project, forcing communities to borrow ever more money to keep up with EPA dictum’s. There is no fighting them as they begin to charge fines BY THE DAY for non compliance and believe me they collect as 90% of the loans must be federally backed due to the nature of the borrowing. They must be stopped!

Tonynoboloney on April 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I’m all in favor of crucifying companies that brazenly break the law and violate regulations.

I’m also in favor of throwing CEO’s in prison for decades for repeated offenses by corrupt firms.

The problem with our current system is no one can tell the difference between the regulators or the regulated anymore. It’s a giant circle jerk of corruption.

If there was minimal regulation, crucifixtion levels of enforcement for those violate those rules (including holding boards and corporate officers personally responsible) and objective regulators, our free market system would explode with competition and productivity.

rickyricardo on April 26, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Inhoffe’s my man…

jimver on April 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM

I’m sure there’s more as well.
PatriotGal2257 on April 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM

the good thing is Sacketts created a precedent, a SCOTUS precedent…

jimver on April 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The only thing that those liberal lunatics are sorry about was the video of the idiot who made the remarks.

cajunpatriot on April 26, 2012 at 1:14 PM

“I apologize for getting caught saying what I truly believe,” Region 6 EPA Administrator Al Armendariz said. “It was an accurate way to exactly portray our efforts to address potential money making by companies that risk all to provide out energy needs. I just shouldn’t have allowed myself to be filmed saying it. I am and have always been committed to punishing others’ success wherever and whenever possible, bringing as much government power to bear as possible. It makes me feel like a big man.”

Akzed on April 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

This guy can say he is sorry from now till his doom.
It is not his words.
This is what He and all the Obama appointments believe.
His words just happened to mirror his core beliefs.
If he say, “I’m sorry, I didn’t meant to say it like I said it, I meant to LIE and forgot!”

The heavy hand of Communism is upon us all.

Delsa on April 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

How true! Another example of how Obama “believes” – Van Jones. That communist bastard dresses better in finely tailored suits than most people I know.

A brief tangential aside, but also relevant about how Obama “believes” – Obama’s recent rhetoric how he never mentions the fact that both – government involvement of student loans and the unchecked, unregulated increase of tuition costs at universities and colleges – never get mentioned in his speeches… If he did mention government collusion with socialist/communist university/college administrators & professors – he would have more people wondering what he was talking about…

These people are so dangerous… They have never lived in a communist country & have no idea what they are talking about… When they make up their own history, make up their own data, deliberately misstate the facts, and fearmonger – using a willing & compliant conspirator in the media… You only need a few well placed individuals to cause a lot of damage… Ayers & Dorn are not far away from their goal, to destroy this country, they just realized that it takes time and well-positioned disciples who can do more destruction than any bomb. The truth can get lost, and so can the people. Slavery didn’t just appear. Neither does nazism, socialism, or communism.

My parents immigrated to the USA From a communist country after WW2 – the single best decision they ever did make in their lives. I am a 1st-generation American, and damn proud of it!

This election is by far the most important than any we have seen in the past 30+ years. These people are no different than the Bolsheviks with people – like this guy in the video above – making up their liberal secret police. Put aside any concerns some of you may have about Romney & make sure to get out & vote this November. Nothing could be worse than a 2nd term of this president, ruling with unions and executive orders galore!

Danny on April 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Another outrageous outrage.

Uhm – are there any examples of people the dude ACTUALLY “cruicified” the way the Romans did? Uhm, no? Okay – so we’ll take this outrageous outrage off the table then – because it’s bullsh**.

Second here … as a Command Master Chief of a Cruiser I was responsible for the conduct of my Sailors (360 of them) in foreign ports. The Navy has problems in this area – so it’s pretty much “zero tolerance” overseas – you have to behave. Every time I went on deployment I explained the rules and told every single Sailor that violators would be “crucified” – that I would throw the rule book at them and go for MAX punishment – just so everyone else would see how painful the consequences were.

I never had a single liberty violation – well, strike that – I’d usually have one in the first port – he’d be crucified – and then no others.

Please people … get a life. There’s plenty to bi*** about with Ogabe other than his EPA administrator’s choice of words.

Hey Inhoffe – when the frack are you going to do something about Fast and Furious? Where’s the impeachment proceedings?

Balless GOP establishment fools – too impotent to go after Ogabe – waste time thumping their chests over his idiot EPA administrator.

Eat it up you Conservative SLAVES!!

HondaV65 on April 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM

The only thing that those liberal lunatics are sorry about was the video of the idiot who made the remarks.

cajunpatriot on April 26, 2012 at 1:14 PM

There is only one punishment that the left considers sufficient for such an betrayal, and that is crucifixion. The good news is that since they are anti-death penalty, they won’t break his legs.

pedestrian on April 26, 2012 at 1:40 PM

I’m sure there’s more as well.
PatriotGal2257 on April 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM

the good thing is Sacketts created a precedent, a SCOTUS precedent…

jimver on April 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Yes, it’s a good thing. Let there be many more precedents from SCOTUS. These wanna-be totalitarians have to be shut down now.

PatriotGal2257 on April 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I’d have to agree with Inhofe on the meaninglessness of the apology. How does the word “crucify” even occur to a guy who is “committed to fair and vigorous enforcement of those laws”??? The usage of that particular word would suggest something a good bit more emotional.

I don’t see how the guy keeps his job. And it’s not just about the political ramifications to the current administration. Every lawyer facing the EPA in court is going to trot this video out in defense of his client, and rightfully so.

Murf76 on April 26, 2012 at 1:43 PM

But why “crucifixion”, what does that tell us, the Normal People, about these bitter freaks? And he was so calm about it.
An Obama appointee, makes sense, birds of a feather and with violence racking their brains. Not all that surprising though, there’s enough of this going around to give us fair warning, and with a minor fig leaf, from the very top.

arand on April 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I don’t see how the guy keeps his job.

Murf76 on April 26, 2012 at 1:43 PM

He shared a wild weekend with the 0.

cozmo on April 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Why are liberals waging a war on hydraulic fracturing? There isn’t nearly enough evidence to wage such a war.

blink on April 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Don’t you know the old saying. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When you have neither law, nor facts, pound the table and scream.

Snake307 on April 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

HondaV65 on April 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Okay Honda, Class C liberty for your potty mouth.

I think you are missing the point of the outrage if you think it is over the word crucify. It is the whole point that an EPA administrator admits in great detail that the agency arbitrarily and randomly enforces its rules to scare the industry into compliance.

That tactic may have been appropriate on the CG but it isn’t the way to run a government regulatory agency.

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Every lawyer facing the EPA in court is going to trot this video out in defense of his client, and rightfully so.

Murf76 on April 26, 2012 at 1:43 PM

In the grand scheme of things I don’t see how Armendariz keeps his job. The EPA moved quickly to try and make this a non-story but it has been a topic on both local talk radio and Rush Limbaugh today. And I’m sure countless other outlets. This isn’t something that can be fixed now with a non-apology apology.

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM

I think you are missing the point of the outrage if you think it is over the word crucify. It is the whole point that an EPA administrator admits in great detail that the agency arbitrarily and randomly enforces its rules to scare the industry into compliance.

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2012 at 1:58 PM

It isn’t about compliance. It is a smear campaign to make the victim decamp. It is an effort to scare the legal companies into shutting down. It isn’t about following the rules, or encouraging them to follow the rules. It’s about bullying those same companies until they stop doing what is frowned upon by the more enlightened than thou.

Snake307 on April 26, 2012 at 2:13 PM

It doesn’t really work that way. All Congress does is set up “enabling legislation” to create the agency. Then, like a headless, ever-growing monster, it creates thousands and thousands of pages of regulations.

logis on April 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Actually, It DOES work that way. Congress passes the laws, which are generally quite specific. The EPA is to produce regulations to explain and enforce those laws. Then the EPA regulations expand on those laws, and any expansion is supposed to be tacitly approved by congress unless congress specifically disapproves. Of course, the president is in the mix, so few disapprovals get through.

The congressmen and senators that have done the most damage are now gone – either dead or working for a lobby group. It is hard to punish them. In addition, not all of the current congress critters should be punished unless they currently suport the EPA. Remember, the majority of the bad congress critters past laid this on the few good survivors. Not all congressmen, even today, support the EPA today.

Old Country Boy on April 26, 2012 at 2:15 PM

There isn’t nearly enough evidence to wage such a war.

Evidence? Who needs evidence? This is Owe’s EPA for goodness sakes!

katablog.com on April 26, 2012 at 2:28 PM

the EPA rushed to assure people that they are all about “ethical enforcement

Oops we got caught! Quick somebody go out and lie. Tell them we’re ethical! Yeah that’s the ticket! Ethical.

The Emperor Zero and his merry band of criminal czars and bureaucrats need to be removed from office. They are determined to destroy this country and they will not stop until they do.

dogsoldier on April 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM

After last year’s drought down here in Texas communities have been discussing adding additional surface water reservoirs. They floated a proposal here in Houston that wanted several hundred acres well north of town to be studied.

Then they got hit with the reality of the first comments so square in the eyes the talks have quieted. Apparently there was going to be a requirement to offset that water surface take with a 3to1 multiplier for habitat. And that habitat had to be as off limits to humans as that wacko nature godess in Oregon envisioned it.

We must have over 1,500 lakes in Texas and I know of only one that is natural. I bet there’s a plan somewhere to revert back to flooding streams to protect ghaia.

DanMan on April 26, 2012 at 2:44 PM

DanMan on April 26, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Yep, only one and y’all can’t have it.

Go desalinize the bay. Or go iceberg fishing. The EPA will have a field day when y’all bring that ice cube through the gulf.

cozmo on April 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM

The next EPA mandate will eliminate those gas guzzling SUVs by bringing back covered wagons. To eliminate the methane pollution that animal power would cause more money would go into windmill drive train research.

Annar on April 26, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Why are liberals waging a war on hydraulic fracturing? There isn’t nearly enough evidence to wage such a war.

blink on April 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Don’t you know the old saying. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When you have neither law, nor facts, pound the table and scream.

Snake307 on April 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Yes, but why do they WANT to ban fracturing? Is it because it sounds scary, is it because of the movie gasland, or is it because they just don’t want natural gas to be inexpensive??

blink on April 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM

It is an due to environmental cause projects. They scream it is polluting water, but even the EPA in a 2006 executive summary has stated there is no evidense, even though the EPA is still doing “studies” to see if it does.

And, of course, politics and money.

upinak on April 26, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Had an EPA inspector show up at the facility I work at. We are located quite a way from the nearest EPA office. He also brought a State inspector with him.

I used the Greenhouse Gas Calculator on EPA’s website after they left and determined that they would need to plant 10 sapplings and have them grow for 10 years to balance out the CO2 emissions that they released on their trip. The EPA inspector actually drove a pickup about 300 miles each way just to come pay us a visit. I thought the EPA only drove cars that emitted unicorns and rainbows. The sad thing is, our facility makes stuff that was probably in his vehicle.

We didn’t share this tidbit with them as they would probably want to “crucify” us if we had shared it, not that they weren’t completely over the top during the inspection anyways.

weaselyone on April 26, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Didn’t we just have this conversation on the BofA gun manufacturer thread?

Here: http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/bank-of-america-tells-gun-manufacturer-it-no-longer-wants-their-business/

and here:

Hmmm…maybe a pattern is emerging?

Moose Dung on April 26, 2012 at 4:26 PM

The Obama Administration has said that this is not their policy and that they do not share his views. I beg to differ.

If the Obama Administration doesn’t share their views, they sure seem to pick people cut from the same cloth and place them in positions of power:

Al Armendariz, Region 6 EPA says he wants to “crucify” companies.

Both David Michaels and Jordan Barab, top 2 officials at OSHA, have publicly stated their goal to “Publicly Shame” companies, even when those companies have only been accused of violating safety standards. They also have never written a retraction on their public shame campaigns when citations are withdrawn or overruled in court.

Hilda Solis, Secretary of Labor, in her first speech said “There is a new Sheriff in Town” essentially putting companies on notice that she was going to be coming after them.

This to me sounds like the Agencies have received the message that Obama wants his regulators to follow and that they have received that message loud and clear.

weaselyone on April 26, 2012 at 4:28 PM

They hired a bunch of contractors at the EPA that were hounding the heck out of industrial facilities last summer. It was all about calculating fugitive CO2 emmissions. I looked at the formulas they had sent and noticed some similarity to the point of identicalness with “estimated fugitive methane gas releases” from 2004. Those rules ended up being scrapped.

None of the people that called me to tell me I had demonstrations coming due could answer a single question about the variables and assumptions needed to crank out the calcs.

DanMan on April 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM

This is the same reason the TSA gropes kids and the elderly. It’s to show that if they’ll do that to someone who is obviously not a terrorist, they’ll do it to anyone.
This is how most law enforcement works. Come down hard on the easy targets, and others will fall in line.
It’s how most authoritarian systems work.
lorien1973 on April 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM

At least they have the boiler-plate right:

TSA EPA has reviewed the incident and determined that our officers followed proper screening procedures strong, fair and effective enforcement of the environmental laws passed by Congress in conducting a modified pat-down on the child crucifixion of this evil polluter.

AesopFan on April 26, 2012 at 4:36 PM

It shouldn’t be about appearances but this guy really looks the part of faceless tax-sucking government bureaucratic drone. Maybe it’s a chicken-egg thing. Did he take on the characteristics of a soulless wealth-destroying parasite because he went to work for the EPA or did go to work for the EPA because he was already a soulless twit with aspirations of being a wealth-destroying parasite and so naturally gravitated to the EPA?

curved space on April 26, 2012 at 4:57 PM

So those were ROMAN not Grecian columns Obama was using, eh?

profitsbeard on April 26, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Congress is calling for his resignation, for all the laughs that will get them. Note: Eric Holder is still at the DoJ. The Emperor scoffs at such suggestions..

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/26/rep-fleming-epa-official-who-wants-crucify-companies-needs-to-resign/

FTA:

The use of threats and intimidation to force energy companies to submit to an extremist agenda may be fitting under a totalitarian regime, but it is never acceptable in the United States,” Fleming said in a Thursday afternoon statement. “The sad reality is that Mr. Armendariz employed this strategy. Without real evidence, the EPA tried to stop a company that was safely drilling with hydraulic fracturing. The case was finally dismissed earlier this year, but it stands as an example of the EPA’s willingness to ‘crucify’ energy companies.”

The truth is Zero’s legion does this to anyone they see as an “undesirable.”

dogsoldier on April 26, 2012 at 6:03 PM

EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz described how the Romans pacified territory they conquered. The Romans wanted the riches of the lands they captured. They wanted the profits, the taxes, the trade. This means that the Romans wanted to limit the destruction to just the amount necessary to pacify what they conquered.

A war of conquest differed from a punitive war. Punitive wars were designed to punish, if not destroy enemies, usually external. Sometime they were in retaliation against raids by non-Roman enemies, sometimes to punish a rebellious province. The scope was far more than crucifying the first 5 men they saw; it could include crucifying the entire village and maybe the neighboring ones as well. It could include the total destruction of food sources with the deliberate goal of starving everybody to death. Call it “total war.”

The term “sowing with salt” wasn’t just a motto, it was a punitive action.

So, EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz is describing a “war of conquest” by the EPA against “foes of global warming” (the oil and coal companies).

I think that after President Romney takes office, he should introduce EPA’s Region VI Administrator Al Armendariz, Lisa Jackson, and all of Obama’s political appointees to the other “Roman Way”: Total war. I think that they should all be fired; some should be prosecuted. I think their pensions be confiscated, and they (and any family members) be prohibited from working for ANY GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT FUNDED/SUBSIDIZED or LOBBYING organization for the next 10 years.

georgej on April 26, 2012 at 7:05 PM

That wasn’t just a “poor choice of words,” it was an offensive, tasteless anecdote, a parable, even, illustrating the universal truth that is the EPA. And he told it with such relish.

SukieTawdry on April 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Rome’s Bureaucrats Better than the EPA’s at Increasing Prosperity!A comparison, with graphics, of how Rome’s takeovers left areas prosperous, whereas Obama/Government interference has the opposite effect. For example, PAX ROMANA vs POX OBAMA. In conclusion — Rome knew how to create wealth. And, despite the fact that Roman soldiers had little qualms about inflicting pain, I would also argue they showed more compassion during their crucifixions than the EPA does during theirs.

Mutnodjmet on April 26, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Look, the EPA regional administrators are the gauleiters of the eco-fascist state.

They are the representants en mission of the Agenda 21 Republic of Virtue.

I’d be very surprised to find out that Armendariz is anything unusual. They are all zealots. If they weren’t they wouldn’t have gotten the job.

JEM on April 27, 2012 at 12:48 AM

I also think there are some EPA inner agencies like safe drinking water that provide a good service, as we all like clean drinking water.

There are some things that are good, but 90% can be tossed out.

upinak on April 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM

So what percent Mercury would you allow in any drinking water? Any? How many ppb (parts per billion)?

Remember it’s naturally occurring in some areas, and restricting this too much will force rural customers to quit using well water; or to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on filters for their wells.

You may very well destroy some towns and farms if you set this wrong… but go ahead and declare a one-size-fits-all policy that will work for every county in the entire nation.

Even the stuff that is “good” is stuff they screw up. On a regular basis…

DAMMIT… I was trying to use a real example from about a decade ago and I got it wrong. I “misremembered”… Arsenic was the fight, not mercury (still naturally occurring so the broad strokes of the argument are correct).

http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv24n3/specialreport.pdf

But the one-size-fits-all rule was still one that serious impacted many rural areas that have naturally occurring arsenic; and the EPA had no interest in allowing them time to work to try to meet the drastic new ruling they implemented (until Bush overrode them).

SO I can stand by my ‘Even the stuff that is “good” is stuff they screw up’ statement. And I’ll leave the mercury argument above; admitting I didn’t have this 100% in my head recalling the fight in 2001-2002.

gekkobear on April 27, 2012 at 3:37 AM

Armendariz seems completely oblivious to his anachronism.

There were no “Turkish” towns in the ancient Roman Empire. Did he mean Anatolian towns? Or did he mean the later, Byzantine Roman Empire?

Amphipolis on April 27, 2012 at 7:45 AM

OK, not the Byzantines, they would not have crucified anyone. And regarding the Byzantines it would have been more appropriate to reference the Turkish descruction of Roman towns.

Amphipolis on April 27, 2012 at 8:08 AM

I keep trying to call Sen. Mary Landrieu’s office for her take spin on this but her phone line is always busy.

/s

viking01 on April 27, 2012 at 8:38 AM

gekkobear on April 27, 2012 at 3:37 AM

why to use the words I said and bend them to your whim.

You would be great on the Obama team.

upinak on April 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Better late than never. But an expedited investigation two years ago would have stopped some regs from being implemented and with it jobs and money saved in the private sector. Inhofe needs to go viral to the public.

democratsarefools on April 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Sorry Old Country you are in fact wrong. The legislation passed is passed with enabling language allowing the bureaucrats to then determine the details. They are given wide authority to interpret the COngressional intent and then create rules which they then draft and allow for industry and other interested parties comment.

Congress should do away with enabling legislation. This and the other silliness of the DOL’s quickly aborted war on farming suggest all that you need to know about DC. It is not your friend, regardless of who is running it. I long thought we need to showsome compassion id reducing the leviathon state to the people who are there – but I have changed my mind – eliminate half of the management staff – just cut them – we can “crucify” them so the remaining employees understand the danger in acting like a power drunk a**hole. At least it is a process they will be familiar with. Then cut 5% of the remaining staff and those who remain get a 5% pay cut.

This has got to stop.

Zomcon JEM on April 27, 2012 at 2:58 PM

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