Egyptian parliament considering bill legalizing, er, sex with spouse after death?
posted at 6:01 pm on April 26, 2012 by Allahpundit
Reminds me of that story in 2006 about Iran supposedly requiring its Jewish citizens to wear yellow badges: Hard to believe, yet not nearly as hard to believe as it should be. In fact, blogs across the political spectrum have bit on this item today, suggesting that when it comes to claims involving Islamists behaving like rank degenerates, even the left can’t muster much skepticism anymore.
One question, though. Am I right in thinking that this whole thing is being pushed by a single source? Read the Al-Arabiya piece for yourself and see:
Egypt’s National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.
The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011…
According to Egyptian columnist Amro Abdul Samea in al-Ahram, Talawi’s message included an appeal to parliament to avoid the controversial legislations that rid women of their rights of getting education and employment, under alleged religious interpretations.
“Talawi tried to underline in her message that marginalizing and undermining the status of women in future development plans would undoubtedly negatively affect the country’s human development, simply because women represent half the population,” Abdul Samea said in his article.
A cleric in Morocco did indeed approve the practice of, er, “farewell intercourse” within the past few years, but unless I’m missing something in the Al-Arabiya story, the evidence that the bill exists — and that the NCW has complained about it to the speaker — is purely Samea’s say-so. Half a dozen other articles I read today about this all point back to the Al-Arabiya article; as far as I can tell, no one named in the story has spoken to any media about it or otherwise confirmed that what Samea claims is true. And who’s Samea? According to the CSM, that’s curious too:
Today, Egypt’s state-owned Al Ahram newspaper published an opinion piece by Amr Abdul Samea, a past stalwart supporter of the deposed Hosni Mubarak, that contained a bombshell: Egypt’s parliament is considering passing a law that would allow husbands to have sex with their wives after death…
There’s of course one problem: The chances of any such piece of legislation being considered by the Egyptian parliament for a vote is zero. And the chance of it ever passing is less than that. In fact, color me highly skeptical that anyone is even trying to advance a piece of legislation like this through Egypt’s parliament. I’m willing to be proven wrong. It’s possible that there’s one or two lawmakers completely out of step with the rest of parliament. Maybe.
But extreme, not to mention inflammatory claims, need at minimum some evidence (and I’ve read my share of utter nonsense in Al Ahram over the years). The evidence right now? Zero.
Al-Ahram is controlled by the Egyptian government, which I assume means it’s heavily influenced by the ruling military junta. And the junta, of course, is invested in discrediting the Islamists in order to defend its prerogatives against parliament’s growing power. (It’s worth noting too that Al-Arabiya, which picked up the story from Al-Ahram, is a Saudi outfit and the Saudis are mighty anxious about the idea of Islamist populists seizing power from sclerotic tyrannical regimes.) Again, none of this is to say the story isn’t true — the part about the marriage age being lowered is all too plausible — but it’s not hard to see why Mubarak allies might want to make something up or inflate something one of the fringier parliamentarians said in order to galvanize international opinion against the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists. It is, however, hard to see why the MB would allow parliament to entertain a law like this at a moment when they’re busy gladhanding westerners to reassure them that the Brotherhood are “modern” Islamists who are worthy of foreign aid and trade deals. If this really is being kicked around by MPs, I’d bet it’s the Salafists who are pushing it. But we’ll see.
Anyone seen any news items today confirming this with sources besides Samea? If so, shoot us an e-mail at the tips line and I’ll update.
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That wife is one of the stupidest women in the world.
Too bad the feminazis don’t denounce her.
“What a bunch of idiots you are” — Putin
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM
He was a stay at home ‘dad’ and she worked 70-80 hours/week, at $12/hour, and studied, in muzzie garb?
Feminists, where art you?
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Every day is a different story.
He learned it on the internet.
He learned it in Russia.
He was part of a cell of sleepers.
He acted only with his brothers.
This must be a pain in the butt story to cover for reporters/bloggers.
portlandon on April 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM
More
He was a stay at home ‘dad’ and she worked 70-80 hours/week, at $12/hour in a home for the elderly, and studied, in muzzie garb, in America, in 2012-13.
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 3:25 PM
FBI is not happy with the Holder/Obama judge and lawyers interrupting their interrogation, of the one who s/b with the virgins, less than 24 hours into it.
They were not notified either.
Obama is their ‘brother’.
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Muslims. A wife is property. No need to explain what you do or where you go. As property its not your place to ask questions of your husband and owner.
And when was the last time you were required to explain yourself to something you own?
hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 3:28 PM
FBI is not happy with the Holder/Obama judge and lawyers interrupting their interrogation, of the one who s/b with the virgins, less than 24 hours into it.
They were not notified either.
I keep hoping either the CIA,Secret Service, or FBI will finally have had enough of Obama and spill information we all know they have on barry…. A girl can dream can’t she?
sandee on April 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Oh.. she probably knew something and is roing to end up getting charged with aiding and abetting. No one is that dumb.
Stupid girl who threw her life away because of a controlling boyfriend. Also, where were her parents in all this??
Illinidiva on April 25, 2013 at 3:30 PM
BIden assured us these are “knock offs”, there is nothing to fear.
rob verdi on April 25, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Why do you think that?
Half the country (liberals, most in the LSM) want this vermin off the hook. The other half (us) want the truth of the matter and all attached/involved.
Who is standing in the way of all that, trying to make a mess of the whole thing either by ineptitude or design?
Liam on April 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM
They surely didn’t get instructions on bomb building from a box of Cracker Jacks.
docflash on April 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Both feminism and islamic doctrine have the same goal of destroying traditional western European culture for different reasons. For one its eliminating a perceived male dominant society, for the other its eliminating an affront to the god of their religion.
Also, for left leaning feminists, in any disagreement of values between a member of Western culture and non-Western culture, the Westerner is always deemed wrong because of past bigotry, exploitation and colonialism. Nobody from a Western background has any right to criticize anything said or done by anyone from a non-Western background.
Soooo, only crickets from feminists. Most staunch feminists will look better hidden beneath burkas anyway.
hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM
Something tells me she wasn’t a right wing kook before converting…
Ben Hur on April 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM
Muslim males don’t have to explain anything to any female.
Looks like the ” wife” was totally OK with it because that is her way of contributing to anti-American jihad
She definitely knew and liked islam and the koranic guidelines for women before she converted and she was totally OK with it
All are attempts to save her from being convicted, just like they are trying their best to save the Joker. If this strategy doesn’t work for her , they’ll use the little kid for sympathy.
Did she have a black eye when he returned to USA ?
burrata on April 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM
the update was being reported last night. using a remote device for detonation requires a high level of sophistication that likely could not be found on the internet.
dbilly76 on April 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM
Maybe that’s what made the Tsarnaev brothers want to destroy America? /snark
Liam on April 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM
That girl ain’t got the sense God gave a goose. At that point in her life she’d gotten to with him, I seriously doubt she’d even recognize truth or right from wrong if it smacked her straight in the face.
Jomama on April 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM
What if Tamerlan did kill his friend and the two other individuals in that apartment a few years back. What if his wife and his brother knew he did it. That would possibly be a very intimidating act. “If I can kill my best friend, I can kill you, too.”
crosspatch on April 25, 2013 at 3:41 PM
No shortages of lunatic theories.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/25/professors-wild-claim-boston-bombing-resembles-a-mass-casualty-drill-possibly-comprised-of-actors/
fourdeucer on April 25, 2013 at 3:43 PM
The shadow govt is alive and well. All those who know the score are either in on it all, being intimidated/scared, bribed/bought off, killed, forced into retirement and intimidated. A govt cannot be as inept in doing the right thing in taking care of the country as this bunch is,,,it is a planned takedown by the one world utopia bunch and we are all being played. All levels of this power elite are in on it and we are the pawns.
retiredeagle on April 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM
She wanted to join the Peace Corps in high school and “change the world.”
sentinelrules on April 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM
The one that is living is just as guilty as the one that is dead. Period.
kingsjester on April 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM
There is no ‘shadow government’.
This is the real thing — up-close, real, personal, and in-your-face.
And the dumbed-down voters elected them.
Liam on April 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM
One, I doubt that she worked that many hours every week. She probably got a bunch of 12 hour shifts in a row, and then long a long period off. The atty spun it as if it were every week so people would feel sorry for her. Don’t.
Two, she and hubby were talking every day from Russia. Maybe, it was a trial separation. But yeah, letting your husband take off for 6 months on a vacation sounds weird.
Blake on April 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM
Depends on how you exactly you define “accomplice”…
accomplice: one associated with another especially in wrongdoing
Is there a legal definition in operation here?
Is someone who gives guidance, advice, instruction, encouragement, and/or helpful “How To Bomb The Jihad Way” tips prior to the actual execution of the mass murders an “accomplice”?
farsighted on April 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM
Feds taking an even closer look, discover it is a mirror they are looking into, post hast they then send a intergoverment request for a large hammer.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 25, 2013 at 3:51 PM
The wife totally knew what was going on. Quite obviously. If she hadn’t, the phone call to the husband to tell him that the fuzz was onto him would have gone very differently.
Missy on April 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM
O_o
I thought he was run over by his brother…?
Seven Percent Solution on April 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM
OT – one of the biggest swines of America
Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM
My guess would be they are more than likely complicit in the act, if it were found to be true.
DDay on April 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Well, there was a shoot-out.
Further details no longer needed.
Love,
The LSM
Liam on April 25, 2013 at 3:58 PM
They must have a different meaning for “high level of sophistication” than I have. Anyone who’s ever built a model rocket can use a remote device for detonation.
Lily on April 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM
My prediction is that she ends up having bought more than one of the pressure cookers, but did not think that that was strange.
rw on April 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM
O_o
Reportedly, the police, when they got to him said
“Man, this guy looks like 30 feet of Bad Road”
ToddPA on April 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM
The heck with it.
Put the wife, mom, aunt, and dad in GITMO. Tired of all da stupid.
Cut off the morphine to speed bump’s brother.
RovesChins on April 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM
Well, you know how wives will work long hard hours while hubby is going to medical school.
Maybe something similar here. Except he was attending al-Qaeda’s on-line Jihad University and doing field work for his thesis — “How To Bomb a Marathon”. He went to Chechnya for final instruction and the graduation ceremony. She must have been so proud.
farsighted on April 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM
……”it’s a flesh wound.” -Achmed the Dead Terrorist.
RovesChins on April 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM
“Hon” !!
“What?” “I’m leaving for work hubby dear.”
“Well Hon, I’ll be needing you pressure cooker today, OK?”
APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM
It is not the Dezzy and Lucy show any longer.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM
“pressure COOKERS “
APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Insert “I left my spleen in Watertown” joke here.
RovesChins on April 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM
The were bought from Macy’s. Unless you have money to burn, who buys kitchenware from Macy’s?
Blake on April 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Bloomberg had a press conference earlier about the Tsarnaev’s plans for NYC. On tv, they showed a photo of Dzhokhar and a group of guys in Times Square. Some of the faces in the photo were blurred out, but two Eurasian looking men didn’t have their faces blurred. That couldn’t be an accident. Are there any reports that those Kazakh roommates were in on the NYC plot?
Smoothies on April 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Jahar also visited Washington DC last year:
Per his twitter account:
• i’ve been on this train since 6am i’m growing restless #3morehours Jul 21, 2012
• new york looks ill from afar but zoom in and it gets real dirty Jul 21, 2012
• this lady on the train is creeping hard right into my computer screen, just made eye contact #awkward Jul 20, 2012
• 18 hours on the train 0.o Jul 20, 2012
• on the train to washington with a 5 year old who wont go to sleep #thisistorture Jul 20, 2012
luckybogey on April 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM
The were bought from Macy’s. Unless you have money to burn, who buys kitchenware from Macy’s?
Blake on April 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Maybe they clipped the Macy’s coupons from the paper? Frugal jihadis.
Jomama on April 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM
It requires almost no sophistication at all. Strip the circuit boards and battery out of a cheap RC car. Take the red and black wires off the drive motor. Connect same wires to ignitor with a safety switch on one of the wires to keep you from blowing yourself up. Flip that switch after you turn the car and transmitter on. Now you have a remote controlled pressure cooker bomb. Nothing to it.
Every shred of info they needed to build these bombs could be found online–specifically in Inspire magazine.
stvnscott on April 25, 2013 at 4:25 PM
* That’s KSM, has boobs like a lady. Creepy and awkward. He wants my pudding. #Gitmo
* I now know what real torture feels like and I will live like this forever. #Gitmo.
If only our president had balls like Bush.
RovesChins on April 25, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Really? I would think it would be even easier than a cellphone trigger. Significantly easier.
GWB on April 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Check…
Check…
Who is this again…?
Seven Percent Solution on April 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM
Update: Bombs show “expertise,” likely learned in Russia
…a total waste of time. The FINAL REPORT of these muslim islamofascist jihadist terrorists will be written in the White House by OBOZO”s political operatives and will be a total and complete whitewash of reality. So, why waste the time and money on these pointless investigations?
TeaPartyNation on April 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM
It’s how you pronounce Dzhokhar.
Blake on April 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is Jahar (aka his American slang name)
His tweets are located here:
http://www.allmytweets.net/?screen_name=@J_Tsar
luckybogey on April 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM
Except the odds of premature detonation go3s up exponentially with the cheap rc receivers from frequency bleedover. Plus you have to be closer for the weak transmitter signal.
Until I see otherwise, I have to believe they were upscale systems not found at toys r us, rather from hobby stores or online. Even the lower end stuff from those outlets would be superior to “toys”. Don’t forget the jihadi that wanted to fly an rc dusted fan into the pentagon toting plastique. that model jet and related systems was over $1000. Also the more expensive systems have programmable “fail-safe” processing in case range is lost or conflicting signals. Think of the multi-frequency walkie -talkies that minimize eavesdropping by others on the same set or frequency.
AH_C on April 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Ann Coulter had the temerity to ask last week if the conversion to islam included slicing off some of her lady-giblet parts.
slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM
Conversations over this will be muddled by different/uninformed opinions over what a ‘toy’ is vs some kind of advanced R/C hobbyist material. Agree with both of you otherwise.
slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM
But the wife didn’t know how much they knew about being watched. For all she knew, they were hiding in a cave somewhere.
PattyJ on April 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM
At the very least, she knew whose photograph was being shown on national television and she called how many authorities exactly to assist them?
None.
Whether she has committed any crimes remains to be seen, but we can be certain where her sympathies laid.
Tamerlan called himself a ‘stay-at-home dad.’
Seriously.
Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Wait! Wasn’t she working 175 hours a week or something? The girl just couldn’t have found time to watch teevee.
Jomama on April 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM