Quotes of the day
posted at 10:37 pm on April 25, 2012 by Allahpundit
“The largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States has come to a standstill. After four decades that brought 12 million current immigrants—more than half of whom came illegally—the net migration flow from Mexico to the United States has stopped—and may have reversed, according to a new analysis by the Pew Hispanic Center of multiple government data sets from both countries.
“The standstill appears to be the result of many factors, including the weakened U.S. job and housing construction markets, heightened border enforcement, a rise in deportations, the growing dangers associated with illegal border crossings, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates and changing economic conditions in Mexico.”

“In a typical year, the young men in this agricultural region of western Mexico would have made the journey north to America. But not this year or for this generation: a better future across the border is a promise they no longer trust.
“‘For years, we dreamed of America, but now that dream is no good,’ says 18-year-old Pedro Morales, sitting in the elegant Spanish colonial square of Comala under the shadow of the spectacular Volcan de Fuego. ‘There are no jobs and too many problems. We don’t want to go.’…
“‘The reason they’re coming home is because they have no options, no papers, and the laws are more aggressive,’ says Fernando Morett, a shopkeeper in the coastal town of Chiutlan. ‘It’s complicated, and people are debating it. If they don’t have friends in the US and they have to pay to cross the line, it’s not worth it.’”
“First of all, there’s no reason to think that pressure for illegal immigration from Mexico won’t increase again; in fact, the total illegal population has already stopped declining and may have begun to grow again. The U.S. economy is bound to pick up at some point and the newfound middle-class status of so many Mexicans, often cited as a reason for the drop in departures northward, is tenuous. As the Washington Post put it, the country’s new middle class is ‘fearful that recent gains could be lost in a financial crisis or social upheaval.’
“What’s more, the decline in Mexico’s birth rate, which is also cited as a mark of the permanence of the drop-off in emigration, isn’t necessarily connected. The change is real enough; as recently as 1970, the average Mexican woman had nearly seven children, whereas today the number is barely over two. But emigration isn’t just a matter of excess people overflowing into another country. South Korea, for instance, has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world, not to mention a First World level of development, and yet emigration to the U.S. (mostly legal) continues apace. Immigration from Japan and China seems to have actually increased as fertility declined. And immigration from Russia isn’t stopping even though Russia’s total population is actually declining. Sure, if fertility is low enough for long enough, eventually you’ll just run out of people. But in the meantime, immigration is driven by networks of friends and relatives and employers rather than by population math.
“And finally, some part of the decline in new illegal immigrants, and the departure of those already here, was caused by the very enforcement measures the anti-borders crowd wants to dismantle in light of the new numbers.”
“Pearce is not a Romney adviser, but he is the embodiment of the law that Romney embraced — and the baggage Romney now carries for seeking far-right support in the primary. On Tuesday, Pearce sat at the witness table, shaking his head in disagreement as others spoke about how the law encourages racial profiling and hurts legal Latino residents…
“Does he support Arizona authorities using ‘dress’ as a way to identify illegal immigrants? ‘You have to respond to reasonable suspicion to do your job,’ he said.
“Why didn’t the law simply require that everybody stopped by the police would be checked for immigration status, to avoid racial profiling? ‘I don’t want a police state,’ he said.
“No, he only wants that for people who don’t look like him.”
“‘I think we have in Arizona an overreach where the Republicans have really overplayed their hand,’ said Luis Heredia, executive director of the Arizona Democratic Party, citing the immigration bill and Arpaio’s antics…
“One recent Saturday, Democratic state senate candidate Raquel Teran paced the streets of her strongly Hispanic Phoenix district, armed with a map, a list of registered Democratic voters and a sheaf of voter registration papers. She signed up one new voter at the first house she called at.
“Sitting out in the shady yard of her in-laws’ home, young mother Yvette Sierra, 22, shared an experience about her husband being pulled over by Arpaio’s deputies, who she said let him go only after he produced their young son’s U.S. birth certificate.
“‘He’s stopping people and I just don’t think it’s right,’ she says, filling out a voter registration form. ‘I never (voted), never thought about it . . . but I’m glad.’”
“‘He’s already said that immigration reform is something that he’s committed to,’ McCain told reporters, in response to a question about whether Romney should make the issue a bigger focus of his campaign…
“The Arizona senator became agitated when asked about Romney having said he supports a self-deportation policy, whereby illegal immigrants would voluntarily go back to their country of origin and then apply for U.S. citizenship.
“No he hasn’t. He’s said that’s one of the options he’s looked at,’ McCain said. ‘So don’t put words in his mouth.’
“Romney has explicitly said he supports such a policy, however.”
“Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), an informal adviser to the Romney campaign who co-wrote Arizona’s controversial immigration law, predicted Romney would stick with his previous positions on border control.
“‘Governor Romney and the Romney team remain firmly opposed to amnesty,’ he told The Hill earlier this week. ‘I’m not getting any sense he’s changing his positions. He’s staked them out in the [presidential] debates with considerable specificity. He said the Arizona bill should be a model. He said the concept of self-deportation should be one that’s used. I hadn’t heard at all he’s moving and I doubt he will.’…
“Tancredo expressed hope that Kobach could convince Romney to hold his position on the DREAM Act and keep up the rhetoric he used during the primary, but doubted he would.”
“In other words, attrition works. But if illegal immigrants are going home on their own, why do we need an amnesty? The argument for it is that the illegal immigrants are firmly rooted here and aren’t going anywhere. While that’s probably true for some illegals, it’s obviously not true for lots of them. So why not wait and see how much more the illegal population can be reduced through attrition before we surrender and declare an amnesty?”
Via Quinnipiac.

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A comment timestamped before the post even goes up. Now that’s a Bishop!
happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM
The rats are leaving the ship…
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM
“I’m a Dem and stupid! But please still vote for me”!.
Only in the Democratic Party.
Oil Can on May 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM
I think we all know the answer to that.
VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Well, at least this one is closer to the truth.
WryTrvllr on May 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM
How did you do that?
VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM
This is a question?
Cylor on May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM
The Vulcan in me can’t resist.
The logic is irrefutable. WH officials admit to being being idiots and liars…but mostly idiots.
BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Umm, four dead in Benghazi would beg to differ with that.
AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM
An idiot is someone who is incapable of thinking. Leftists merely choose not to think.
Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM
I simultaneously applaud and fear for Ms. Attkisson.
BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Obama, the IRS and the Führerprinzip
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM
70/30
Electrongod on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM
This is one of those myriad government groups created with really snappy names by a congresscritter who needed some bona fides with a one group or another for an upcoming election.
I call them foundation plants. Those are the ones the builder sticks all around your house to make it look pretty on the day you buy it, don’t ever do anything except grow, and then when you consider taking them out you remember what your neighbors house looked like and decide to just keep the status quo.
Overtime, you simply forget about them.
BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM
No Sharyl, we, the American voters that RE-elected this Marxist cabal to a second term, are the idiots.
Meople on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Alright..
Who stole the deLorean and screwed up the time-line here at HA?
Electrongod on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Care to amend?
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Their idiocy caught up to them and they lied about it. Same tactic Clenis took. Democrats lie because they can. Their constituents are okay with it.
DanMan on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM
If you’re not first you’re last!
Meople on May 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Sharyl needs to watch her backside…
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM
And that excuses this how?
Yeah…it doesn’t.
ProfShadow on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Well, we knew that. The question is how much they lied about being idiots.
inviolet on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 PM
The modifications of the talking points can’t be attributed to idiocy.
Try again.
blink on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 PM
A few more whistleblowers in the same vein we saw last week and we might finally get around to the truth, which is that the question isn’t a choice between idiots and liars, but whether we have both.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM
you go
inviolet on May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Sharyl is freaking awesome. Doesn’t give a crap about who’s on what side of the story. Just reporting the facts. In a sane world she’d be the next Woodward and Bernstein.
jdpaz on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Can we go with malicious idiots?
mwbri on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Who broke HotAir..?
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
LMAO…
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
(Said it elsewhere, but I’ll repeat)
This won’t wash with regards to 8 months of obstruction of justice inquiries and cover-up’s.
Nice try but no cigar.
Sir Napsalot on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
btw, ed, that awful sound you hear is my fingers scraping the bottom of my obama pickle barrel.
sesquipedalian on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 AM
VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
At least this pathetic excuse is plausible, I’ll give them that.
NoDonkey on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Report: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election
NBC’s Lisa Myers reported this morning that the IRS deliberately chose not to reveal that it had wrongly targeted conservative groups until after the 2012 presidential election:
But, it’s NOT political!!! They pinky swear.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM
TRUTH SQUAD
Shouting “FIRE!” when there is none is lying or providing incorrect information at a vital time.
Ok, First Amendment fans, if it is illegal to shout “FIRE!” in a crowded theater, can we pass another tiny law?
After the next attack, and there will be another attack, anyone who wrongly starts BS about “Columbine” or “self radicalization” “workplace violence” or “angry, frustrated film reviewers” or the other nonsense is committing a felony. It should be specifically identified as a “high crime and misdemeanor” for the purpose of punishing news outlets or even elected officials. Not that I am thinking of one elected official in particular.
Since we are getting killed and don’t have a phalanx of Secret Service, personal guards or even the right to carry and protect ourselves, can’t we at least handle the tragedy with some er, TRUTH?
I know this is a radical idea and tough for you PC bovine Americans to do but even stupid herd animals communicate alarm among themselves. They don’t pretend that a young one of their own has grown fangs and is eviscerating a relative or that ongoing predatory actions by hungry wolves can be ignored and the wolves will sooner or later turn vegan on their own.
It is an insult to the fallen or falling to lie and very unnatural. History has shown that nations do very well by hitting back when attacked as awful as their actions may seem sickening to the squeamish.
Sometimes it is a wise investment in the education of the other side.
So send notes to your elected officials and hope that they will take the plunge. The experience of telling the truth may feel so good that they might even do it more than once.
IlikedAUH2O on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM
This shows increasing desperation.
No one wants to be seen as an incompetent fool, but if the choice is fool or knave, the administration’s choice seems understandable.
And this is understandable – Barky’s decisions here
1) To run guns to Islamists in Libya, and then try and recover some of them to ship to Syria
2) To arrest a scapegoat video producer
are going to piss off anyone who is paying attention…
18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Apparently, I’m 5 minutes ahead of you all.
Losers.
BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM
It’s the IRS tracking software.
So ixnay on alkingtay about your irearmsfay.
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Oh…you silly people. Don’t you know:
bigmacdaddy on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM
I lost all of mine in a tragic boating accident.
VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Government is trying to blunt Sharyl’s reporting by leaking to her better spun info…
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM
OK, so the WH admits they covered up the fact it was terrorist attack by claiming their idiots…whatever. We’ll game that out later. What I want to know is whether or not all of our Baghdad Bob trolls around here are finally going to acknowledge the obvious cover up since the administration just admitted to it.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM
I’m thinking they are idiots who lie!
AND why are they establishing the Obama administration’s analysis and response?
gonnjos on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Does Guam finally tip over?
VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM
…phuckmeordie…spermsequestrian…noforeskin…and DBare will now give us their expert analysis!…(as soon as their anal passages clear!)
KOOLAID2 on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Jeez, man up a bit. If the administration screwed up, say so. Admit it. Come clean. Keep on stonewalling, and this scandal will get bigger and bigger. More whistleblowers, more traction in the media etc. The 6th year curse is real alright.
tommy71 on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM
The obvious tactic here is to explain the cover-up without actually explaining it because the only other option is malice. And malice is more likely to require an explanation of motive.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Can’t wait until Hot Air time-warps back to 1969 so that we can see that Neil Armstrong actually planted the flag on Mars, not the Moon.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM
“…and it’s important to note that they universally claim that any errors or missteps did not cost lives…”
They were very finely tuned mistakes, the kind that didn’t cost any lives in a fiasco that nevertheless cost four Americans their lives. But the mistakes were all realted to aspects of the fiasco that had nothing to do with their deaths.
Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Fish in barrel.
They were idiots and then they lied about being idiots.
PackerBronco on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM
This administration calling themselves idiots is akin to a blind man saying he can’t see.
DDay on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Any scoop on Major Garret’s piece on the GOP distorted email edits?
DDay on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
I’d be glad to watch it for her. ;-)
TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM
At this point, what difference does it make!
Saltysam on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM
And if they’d said all this back in September, they would now have one less scandal to deal with.
Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Yep, and apparently good with shotguns too.
DDay on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM
“We’re all idiots on a no-brainer situation where we should have provided Marines to protect a consulate, and when we should have tried to rescue American citizens under attack.
But don’t worry, we’re totally ready to implement an uber-complicated BarkyCare system with the help of the IRS.”
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Me too! This is awesome!
Hey HotGas, can you fix the Atari Server already because I have an old Pong Machine that would do a better job.
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM
But he can stand up, right? – Joe Biden
18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM
*facepalm*
Honestly, when you have folks like Victoria Nuland and Tommy Vietor providing input on talking points – it’s clear that they’re not interested in providing the truth – they’re interested in establishing the “spin”.
Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM
A few more whistleblowers in the same vein we saw last week and we might finally get around to the truth, which is that the question isn’t a choice between idiots and liars, but whether we have both.
There’s one other choice: criminals.
TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Just got back…..and for the record….I’m the guy holding the camera when the lunar lander blasts off back to the command module.
Solves that mystery.
BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Well we are not going back without helium balloons!
VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Greetings from Guam!
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM
So it was a coverup with no malice…LOL. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM
So, it’s somewhere in between lying and idiocy, but closer to idiocy.
Okaaaaaay.
Got ya, chief! *wink*
*walks away shaking head*
Saltysam on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Time traveler.
TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM
It’s not illegal if there’s a fire. Jus sayin.
Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Claiming to be idiots, they must think we are idiots.
If decisions were made out of stupidity or ignorance, the mistakes should be close to 50/50 in favor or against the Administration. Instead we have 100% of the idiotic acts in favor of Obama.
This administration’s goal was to get Obama reelected and was willing to do whatever it took to make that happen. This administration is the most coldly calculating since Clinton left office. That’s where Obama learned that delay, delay, delay and then “that’s old news, move on”.
WestTexasBirdDog on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM
You mention NBC’s reporting on the IRS scandal.
It’s interesting that both CBS (Atkisson) and ABC (Karl) have contributed to some degree on Benghazi, while NBC has not gone near it with a ten-foot pole.
In the case of the IRS scandal, NBC apparently feels comfortable enough to report on something that will make Obama squirm because it’s an easy item to report on.
BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM
They are lying, malicious, idiots but they are also cunning and hateful.
jukin3 on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM
God bless Sharyl Attkisson. She’s doing a great job, doing what reporters are supposed to do, speaking truth to power. How she ever lasted so long at See-BS is a mystery, but she’d better have good bodyguards!
Having diplomats held hostage in Iran in 1979-80, and a botched rescue attempt, probably led to President Carter’s defeat in 1980. To avoid that in 2012, somebody decided that the easier solution was to let the hostage be (Ambassador Stevens) be killed, and cover it with some BS story about an anti-Muslim video on You Tube.
Reagan: We don’t negotiate with hostage-takers. We kill them.
Obama: We don’t negotiate with hostage takers either. We let them kill the hostages.
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM
They must really be scared if they’re universally offering themselves up as simply ‘idiots’. Sounds like a “we’ve tried saying everything else, this is all we have left that’s ‘better’ (less worse) than the truth.”
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 12:52 PM
One theory has it that the whole thing was a charade to set up a prisoner exchange – Stevens for the Blind Sheik. It would explain:
1. Why there was reduced security.
2. Why the platoon on the way within Libya was told to stand down.
3. Why it was called a hostage situation.
The men who fought back apparently weren’t in on the plan. This enraged the attackers, who thought they’d been lured into a trap or betrayed. So they went and got more friends and made a second attack.
Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Not incompetence. Deliberate. If they are claiming to be idiots then they aren’t idiots, they are lying.
rbj on May 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM
Incompetence is a hallmark of this administration. And since they are incompetent, how do they know their decisions – or lack thereof – did not, in fact COST LIVES?
GarandFan on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM
When will we hear from the 32 people who got out alive?
When they’re stories are no longer being covered up?
Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 1:02 PM
OK let’s see
An idiot would say here, “I was an idiot”
A liar would say here … “I was an idiot”
In other words, these remarks are devoid of any information content
rightmind on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM
So they are too stupid to tell the truth?
I’ll buy that.
But what they actually meant was they thought that WE were so stupid we wouldn’t know that THEY weren’t telling the truth.
Lily on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM
Obama should be forced to leave office right now and let Romney take over. Clearly it would have been a landslide if the press did it’s job last fall. Between the IRS and Benghazi scandals, a bag of rocks could’ve beat Obumbler. What a goddamn disgrace. Our enemies have to be laughing their asses off and licking their chops. God help this world. The press and administration sure did a great job effing my children’s world up.
ratherbskiing on May 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Definitely not seeing those as mutually exclsuive……..
GWB on May 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM
SORRY BARRY……I, GHOULAID, AM A GODDAMN IDIOT. I AM NOT HOWEVER…..UNAMERICAN.
GhoulAid on May 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM
I said from the beginning that this was a “major screwup” followed by a gaggle of overpaid idiots.
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM
How embarrassing can this be to the “smartest man in the room” administration ? An administration filled with slackers, hanger-ons, and just plain idiots .. and that at the EOP.
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Vietor was not simply “in the e-mail chain on talking points.”
Vietor was the MF-ing National Security Council spokesman!!!!!!!!!
Dude didn’t know FEST was?! Wasn’t it his job to know?
Is the White House staffed with Romper Room rejects?
Robert_Paulson on May 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Idiots like Obama, Holder and Hillary should not lead the US then.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Well, darn it! Where are the trolls? I want to hear what they have to say about this.
C’mon, libbabies! Your me-so-smart leadership folks said it’s OK that you’re all stupid, so jump on in! My breath is bated, waiting for your brilliant idiocy to shine forth!
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Watch this, especially now.
“…creating more sheep”.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Are there no other aircraft at Sigonella? Could any of them have provided help in any way shape or form?
Why did we not use every asset available? Please stop trying to sell the “stupid” meme. Not buying it.
dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM
No ,you guys are actual hitmen for jihadies.
burrata on May 17, 2013 at 1:53 PM
For many of us, being an idiot does not excuse or recuse us from being responsible. If a patrolman pulls you over for speeding, the idiot excuse does not fly.
You can say, like Holder, “We’ll, I didn’t know.” As so many people who work under the DOJ who have passed down sentences to lawbreakers have said over time aplenty, “Ignorance of the law is no excuse.”
Lastly, to say that with all the fires going on in the D.C. neighborhood in regards to the IRS, AP wiretapping, EPA, Bengazi, etc. is something akin to living in your house and seeing the whole neighborhood on fire, and not bothering to call the fire department.
Now, what excuse would you like to use again, Mr. President?
Turtle317 on May 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM
It was my opinion before the 2010 elections that they could be the most important in our lifetime. Now I think they may have been one of the most important elections in the history of our Republic.
House leadership may frustrate and disgust us, but Pelosi isn’t running things. Without Republicans in charge of committees to speak out, so many things would never have come to light or have been addressed.
The 2010 elections were brought to you by the Tea Party. That’s you and me and all the American citizens who attended them, who wrote and phoned and worked. No wonder the Obama administration hates and fears us. They hate and fear the American people who love our country and who support the Constitution.
We the People.
INC on May 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Action matters
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM
So, the country is being run by something close to idiots.
And, to the extent they’re not idiots, they’re liars.
Socratease on May 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Yes.
GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Time for an Independent Special Prosecutor(s) on the competence of administration and any abuse(s) of power in agencies in the Executive Branch.
State
DOJ
IRS
NHS
Agriculture
All of them.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Notice who is making the criticism a partisan one? The portrayal is coming from people who are not brain dead or easily fooled, chump. Let’s not buy into the “narrative” created by this Obama administration official.
onlineanalyst on May 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM
If you participated in the Excuse Draft, Mistakes Were Made paying off huge dues right here.
Ah, classic Clinton: “Mistakes were made.”
Axeman on May 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM
The Rat-Eared Ba$tard took an especially large dump this morning, so they are taking a bit longer to drink it up.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM
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