Carter: I’m comfortable with a Romney win

posted at 12:41 pm on April 25, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Via Greg Hengler, I’m … kind of torn on this one.  On one hand, it plays into every fear among the conservative base of the GOP about Mitt Romney.  On the other hand, the statement from the man formerly known as the worst American President in modern times makes it very, very difficult for Team Obama to succeed in using the advice given by the only other Democratic President in the last 40+ years to paint Romney as The Mostest Radicalist Scariest Right-Winger Since Barry Goldwater Nearly Nuked The Nation.  I’d bet, under the circumstances, that Mitt Romney will be happier than Barack Obama with Jimmy Carter’s assessment of the general election in 2012, or at least less unhappy:

I had to laugh out loud at Carter’s assertion that politics has gotten more polarized since his term in office. Democrats in 1980 tried using the same strategy Bill Clinton gave to Obama, only they used it against Ronald Reagan.  It didn’t work, since the nation wanted a significant change from Carter’s fecklessness and economic malaise more than they feared Reagan’s commitment to conservative principles.  The polarization continued all through Reagan’s two terms in office, perhaps hitting a peak in the awful Robert Bork confirmation hearings and vote in 1987.  The difference was that there were fewer counterweights to liberal media outlets that fueled it.

The question that Greg asks is still a good one: If Jimmy Carter is comfortable with a Romney presidency, it’s a safe bet that a lot more Democrats will be, too.


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Who gives a rats rear end? ANYONE (or anything) is better than 4 more years of Obama,

ratherbskiing on April 25, 2012 at 1:12 PM

If Obama is so bad then why are Republican nominating somebody just like him?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

It was going to be tough to hold my nose and vote for Mittens… now that Carter is board… Starting to get second thoughts…. yikes… not the crowd you want Mittens.

watertown on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Again, the “Romney was too weak to stand up to the libs in MA, so stop talking about his failures as Governor” argument isn’t really helpful. Quite the opposite, actually.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

No lifeguard on duty. Feed the troll at your own peril. :0

Happy Nomad on April 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Let me guess… we saw him in the waning moments?

Red Cloud on April 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Not that we should think any less of him for it, mind you.

KingGold on April 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Romney does get the worst sort of endorsements. The Bushes, Carter, McCain, Trump. I’d be embarrassed to be endorsed by any of them.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM

That’s not so bad. Obama gets endorsments from dictators and terrorists.

txhsmom on April 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

This is entirely self-serving. He doesn’t want Obama to win a second term, so he thinks he is giving the green light to dems to vote for Romney.

Being a one-term president means he needs company.

teri_b on April 25, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Of course he is. Romney is to the left of Obama on many issues.

angryed on April 25, 2012 at 12:45 PM

What? Give me a break. There are few people within the Democratic caucus of either the House or the Senate who is more liberal than Obama. Do you really believe that Romney would nominate people like Elizabeth Warren to head a government agency or Elana Kagan to the Supreme Court. In things that matter, Romney will be 1000 times more conservative than Obama.

RedSoxNation on April 25, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Carter’s statement is not very important, but it mitigates the sting of Obama’s playbook that Romney is some far right-wing nut.

This especially helps with seniors, who the Dems will try to most frighten, and with women independents — at least those who too often vote against their own husband’s paycheck.

And I agree with those who assert that Carter doesn’t want Obama to get a 2nd term since he couldn’t have one, either. Carter has always been a very small-minded and tedious man.

matthew8787 on April 25, 2012 at 1:19 PM

A bit confused…saying Carter is “the only other Democratic President in the last 40+ years”. What about Bill Clinton?

amasimp on April 25, 2012 at 1:19 PM

He has also said he would never support a ban on firearms of any sort at the FEDERAL level.

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

..isn’t it funny how we all get labeled as “mittbots” and accused of not listening and yet you can cite the statements Romney makes re ObamaCare repeal and firearms, etc. and none of the HG 35 seem to listen?

Oh yes, and the fact that we do bring this up is mean and hateful to conservatives?

Kampen shitao!

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Romney VETOED the portion of the bill that payed for abortions, the legislature added it back in.

The taxes thing is interesting. He didn’t actually raise taxes at all. He *did* raise tax REVENUE, though, by closing some loopholes. For example, there was a regulation that gave special tax breaks for real estate companies. Some banks were gaming the system and pretending to be real estate companies on paper when they were really banks, he stopped that. He also increased some fees, but mostly it was closing of loopholes and eliminating some tax dodges that were enacted as basically crony capitalism.

Romney extended an already existing ban on assault weapons only, he didn’t “ban guns” and it wouldn’t have mattered, as it would have been overridden had he tried to veto it. He has also said he would never support a ban on firearms of any sort at the FEDERAL level.

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

angryturdheaded isn’t interested in the facts. He is just an Obama flunky.

Gunlock Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Dems bag Colin Powell, and they hold it up as proof of persuasive arguments for liberalism. We get a semi-endorsement from Carter, and “conservatives” regard it as a sign of weakness. This is why we lose elections and influence.

The Count on April 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Do the math.

If Obama manages to win, Carter remains worst president evah.

If Obama loses after one term he becomes worst president evah.

So Obama has the opportunity to actually become a saviour …….. to Jimmah.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Same tired Mitt-tard talking point. Ignore the 650 wins for the TP (federal, state, local) in 2010 and focus on 2 losses.

angryed

Are you still trying to keep up your pathetic act that you’re really a “no compromise” TruCon and NOT a liberal concern troll ?

Weren’t you outed a long time ago as a Moby?

Do you think you’re changing a single vote this election?

BradTank on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

There is nothing good about this statement, whatsoever.

MadisonConservative on April 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Indeed…nor about Carter.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

What Limbaugh said about the 2008 election is just as true about 2012 one. “Conservatism didn’t lose. It just wasn’t on the ballot.”

Crusty on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Not sure why anyone cares what this old coot has to say at this point, either way.

changer1701 on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

If Obama is so bad then why are Republican nominating somebody just like him?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Didn’t know Romney grew up in Indonesia and dined on poodles.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

This is Carter giving Dems permission to vote against Obama. I read recently where Jimmah came out and said he was never comfortable with the Left’s insistence on abortion, and maybe he is feeling some remorse in his old age. I think many center lefts are weary of Obama. We need the cross over vote.

Kristamatic on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

So Obama has the opportunity to actually become a saviour …….. to Jimmah.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Come at me, rabbit Bo!

/

Christien on April 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM

..isn’t it funny how we all get labeled as “mittbots” and accused of not listening and yet you can cite the statements Romney makes re ObamaCare repeal and firearms, etc. and none of the HG 35 seem to listen?

Oh yes, and the fact that we do bring this up is mean and hateful to conservatives?

Kampen shitao!

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM

It must be scary to the HA35. But then again everything is scary to them, outside of their mommy’s house that is.

Gunlock Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM

He has also said he would never support a ban on firearms of any sort at the FEDERAL level.

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Romney has said a lots of different things to lots of different people. For a notoriously dishonest politician, words are cheap.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

why is this anti American, antisemite crackpot getting any attention?
ploome on April 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Who, Ron Paul?

Rusty Allen on April 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

And once again Obama’s on the losing end of bipartisanship.

txhsmom on April 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Are you still trying to keep up your pathetic act that you’re really a “no compromise” TruCon and NOT a liberal concern troll ?

Weren’t you outed a long time ago as a Moby?

Do you think you’re changing a single vote this election?

BradTank on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Dude’s not worth the effort of a reply. He’s said he’s voting for Obama, and anyone who has declared as much can’t be taken seriously, especially as any sort of conservative.

changer1701 on April 25, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Jimmy would be OK with Yasser Arafat though, if he was still alive.

Axion on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

We need the cross over vote.

Kristamatic on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

We don’t need it, exactly, but humiliating Obama is far more satisfying than simply eking out an electoral victory.

KingGold on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

President Carter opens his mouth and rational thought get FUBARed.

Jabberwock on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Carter would be comfortable with a Romney win because it would prove once and for all that Obama is a worse president than him…

NerwenAldarion on April 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM

As you and several others pointed out, this is the simplest and most natural explanation. Carter is desperate to pass the “failed President” dunce cap onto somebody else, and preferably before he dies.

It is supremely ironic to see a Democrat throw Obama under the bus. This is likely only one of many yet to come.

jwolf on April 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM

I have a slightly different take on this: I believe Jimmah thinks Barry has the Worst President Ever title sewn up right now (he does). On the odd chance that Barry were reelected, he may find himself in a situation where circumstances beyond his control elevate him to the Second Worst President Ever, thereby re-securing Jimmah’s place in history as the worst.

Better to strike now when the iron’s hot!

pain train on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

What Limbaugh said about the 2008 election is just as true about 2012 one. “Conservatism didn’t lose. It just wasn’t on the ballot.”

Crusty on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

So conservatives only turned out for Palin, but conservatives didn’t turn out for Palin. Got it.

The Count on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Do the math.

If Obama manages to win, Carter remains worst president evah.

If Obama loses after one term he becomes worst president evah.
So Obama has the opportunity to actually become a saviour …….. to Jimmah.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

…if the economy has a chance to fix itself despite the community organizer in eight years…Jimmah is forever doomed!

KOOLAID2 on April 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Didn’t know Romney grew up in Indonesia and dined on poodles.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Who cares that Obama grew up in Indonesia and ate the local fare when he was a little kid? That’s how you guys are going to win the White House? Give me a break. On the real issues that matter: this

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

If Obama manages to win, Carter remains worst president evah.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I don’t know, Bush certainly gives Carter a run for his money.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

If Obama is so bad then why are Republican nominating somebody just like him?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Do you honestly believe this or is it mostly disappointment that we couldn’t get someone more conservative nominated?

I can’t see a President Romney appointing Elena Kagen to the Supreme Court or having all sorts of Czars. Whether or not he’s pro-abortion you’re not going to get Sebelius at HHS.

We may not get a true free market, but his policies will be more pro-business than “spread the wealth” Obama.

JadeNYU on April 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Raciiiiist!

Jimmah Cahtah is a crackah who hates black folk!

Po’ Obama been dissed again!

profitsbeard on April 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Do you honestly believe this or is it mostly disappointment that we couldn’t get someone more conservative nominated?

JadeNYU on April 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Would you guys just watch the video I linked to? Then you would have a clue.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Romney has said a lots of different things to lots of different people. For a notoriously dishonest politician, words are cheap.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I fail to understand the ultimate point of your rantings. Romney is the Republican candidate. Your choice is Romney or Obama. Are you simply attempting to persuade people to vote for Obama? Is that your ultimate goal? It surely LOOKS like that is what you are ultimately going for here.

I don’t think many are going to buy that argument.

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Carter has always been a very small-minded and tedious man.

matthew8787 on April 25, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Carter has always been a very small-minded and tedious anti-Semitic man.

FIFY!

belad on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Quit while your ahead….sort of. Carter needs Obamas presidency to end and end soon while Obama has him beat in the worst president category. It’s a legacy call for Carter.

multiuseless on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

I miss Billy Carter every day.

BHO Jonestown on April 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

If Obama is so bad then why are Republican nominating somebody just like him?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

They aren’t, obviously, as Romney is capable of balancing a budget, rescuing failing businesses, and taking pride in being an American.

When you’ve lost Jimmy Carter …

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

If Obama is so bad then why are Republican nominating somebody just like him?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I’ve been wondering that for a while. It’s as if the GOP had made up its mind to present a “new and improved” Democrat for the consideration of the “independents and moderates” this year. As if the GOP had decided that the country simply will not go for the kind of person we “true cons” would recognize as a traditional Republican candidate.

Aitch748 on April 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

If nothing else, hearing Jimmy Carter call Mitt Romney a Progressive was worth the price of admission. (Yes, I understand he was using the past tense.)

Just Sayin on April 25, 2012 at 1:35 PM

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

What exactly is the video?
I can’t get to youtube right now.

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 1:36 PM

We don’t need it, exactly, but humiliating Obama is far more satisfying than simply eking out an electoral victory.

KingGold on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

We do need it. To put the fear of the electorate into the dems socialists that remain.

cozmo on April 25, 2012 at 1:36 PM

I believe Jimmah thinks Barry has the Worst President Ever title sewn up right now (he does). On the odd chance that Barry were reelected, he may find himself in a situation where circumstances beyond his control elevate him to the Second Worst President Ever, thereby re-securing Jimmah’s place in history as the worst.

Better to strike now when the iron’s hot!

pain train on April 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I’ll admit that you have laid out a convincing, rational argument — which is exactly why I am very skeptical that Carter thought that way!

jwolf on April 25, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Who cares that Obama grew up in Indonesia and ate the local fare when he was a little kid?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Americans.

fogw on April 25, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Well, Mitt has the Soros semi-endorsement and the Carter semi-endorsement…. What is next? Perhaps the Hugo Chavez semi- endorsement?

Yeah, these leftists are saying this stuff just to demoralize conservatives.

Sure they are.

LegendHasIt on April 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Do you honestly believe this or is it mostly disappointment that we couldn’t get someone more conservative nominated?

I can’t see a President Romney appointing Elena Kagen to the Supreme Court or having all sorts of Czars. Whether or not he’s pro-abortion you’re not going to get Sebelius at HHS.

We may not get a true free market, but his policies will be more pro-business than “spread the wealth” Obama.

JadeNYU on April 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Conservatives will OWN President Romney on judicial appointments. If not, Romney will invite a fatal primary challenge in 2016. He is already viewed with suspicion by the base, which will limit his latitude on various matters, particulary judges.

Mitt is not stupid. He will dance with those who brung him.

matthew8787 on April 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Reverse Psychology 101.

Next.

Joe Mama on April 25, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I’ve been wondering that for a while. It’s as if the GOP had made up its mind to present a “new and improved” Democrat for the consideration of the “independents and moderates” this year. As if the GOP had decided that the country simply will not go for the kind of person we “true cons” would recognize as a traditional Republican candidate.

Aitch748 on April 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Given his continued support of Romneycare, that alone should have been enough to convince people that nothing is really gained by nominating Romney.

It is beyond foolish for the GOP to continuously try to run liberal Rinos in an attempt to pull a few liberal voters away from the Dems. All it does is turn the base away from GOP leadership and tell the more conservative-leaning Dems that the GOP isn’t serious about fixing the country’s problems either. Maybe they’ll learn in time for 2016, but like as not they won’t and Jeb Bush will be the next nominee.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:40 PM

It was going to be tough to hold my nose and vote for Mittens… now that Carter is board… Starting to get second thoughts…. yikes… not the crowd you want Mittens.

watertown on April 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Please, do not insult your own intelligence and pick someone based on someone elses assessment. You have a mind of your own, look at the facts. I have done an investigation myself and I personally think Romney is an excellent conservative candidate.

kmalkows on April 25, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Would you guys just watch the video I linked to? FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

No. Your arguments thus far have been farcical. I would expect the same from the link. The choices are Romney or Obama. Romney is a competent businessman, thus, in at least one respect better than Obama. Even if they were the same, when something isn’t working (Obama), it makes sense to try something you haven’t tried before (Romney). In what respect do you feel Obama is a better president than Romney would be?

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Conservatives will OWN President Romney on judicial appointments. If not, Romney will invite a fatal primary challenge in 2016. He is already viewed with suspicion by the base, which will limit his latitude on various matters, particulary judges.

Mitt is not stupid. He will dance with those who brung him.

matthew8787 on April 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Romney will pick a liberal judge, and promise that next time he’ll push someone who actually cares about the Constitution. Which won’t happen anyway. He would never by primaried. Never.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Big deal. It`s like saying which method of getting the crap kicked out of you would you prefer. All he`s saying is out of the choices we`re presenting, he hates Mitt the least.

ThePrez on April 25, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Please, do not insult your own intelligence and pick someone based on someone elses assessment. You have a mind of your own, look at the facts. I have done an investigation myself and I personally think Romney is an excellent conservative candidate./

kmalkows on April 25, 2012 at 1:41 PM

You forgot the sarc tag there.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:43 PM

But then again everything is scary to [the HG 35], outside of their mommy’s house that is.

Gunlock Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM

..or in BellicoseEd’s basement.

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Well, Mitt has the Soros semi-endorsement and the Carter semi-endorsement…. What is next? Perhaps the Hugo Chavez semi- endorsement?

Yeah, these leftists are saying this stuff just to demoralize conservatives.

Sure they are.

LegendHasIt on April 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Two-pronged attack strategy.

The Clinton-influenced track of trying to paint Romney as the second coming of Goldwater is meant to turn off moderates and sensible democrats to Romney.

At the same time, you’ve got Soros and Carter basically saying there is little difference between Obama and Romney. There will likely be a few more lefties coming out of the woodwork saying this every now and then. This is meant to turn off conservatives to Romney.

Pretty simple.
In the end, the schizophrenic nature of this strategy won’t work (at least in mu opinion). But its clear this is what they are trying.

Its telling that Team Obama is throwing everything AND the kitchen sink at Romney so early.

They are quaking in their jackboots.

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 1:43 PM

It is beyond foolish for the GOP to continuously try to run liberal Rinos in an attempt to pull a few liberal voters away from the Dems. All it does is turn the base away from GOP leadership and tell the more conservative-leaning Dems that the GOP isn’t serious about fixing the country’s problems either. Maybe they’ll learn in time for 2016, but like as not they won’t and Jeb Bush will be the next nominee.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:40 PM

The 5.8 million Republican primary voters that picked Romney don’t seem to be listening to you. Are you suggesting the GOP shouldn’t let people vote in primaries? They should just nominate someone?

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM

The 5.8 million Republican primary voters that picked Romney don’t seem to be listening to you. Are you suggesting the GOP shouldn’t let people vote in primaries? They should just nominate someone?

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM

How many million voted against him?

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I miss Billy Carter every day.

BHO Jonestown on April 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

..I sure miss his beer!

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM

very, very difficult for Team Obama to succeed in using the advice given by the only other Democratic President in the last 40+ years to paint Romney as The Mostest Radicalist Scariest Right-Winger Since Barry Goldwater Nearly Nuked The Nation.

Couldn’t agree more, Ed. Thank you for the good, cheering news. This quote from Carter makes me very, very happy. Clinton is the smartest political tactician since FDR, and his advice to paint Mitt as a scary right-winger is the sharpest and cleverest plan Democrats could possibly conceive. And I have absolutely no doubt it would be devastatingly effective with those who count–the squishes in the middle. This quote will help undercut the Democrats in a big way. I love it! I’m going to start using it as a talking point with acquaintances right away, alternating it with comments about how Obama ate a dog and then bragged about it. (Occasionally I’ll mention gas prices, too, of course.)

Burke on April 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Romney has said a lots of different things to lots of different people. For a notoriously dishonest politician, words are cheap.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Don’t be a dirtball. Facts, please. Citeation, references, examples? Otherwise STFU.

HomeoftheBrave on April 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM

The 5.8 million Republican primary voters that picked Romney don’t seem to be listening to you. Are you suggesting the GOP shouldn’t let people vote in primaries? They should just nominate someone?

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM

How many million voted against him?

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM

..less than the millions who voted against Santorum, Gingrich, Ron Paul, and..er..what’s his name..Seymour Huntsman.

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Heh.

All those ‘conservative’, ‘smart’-kid pundits and bloggers told us that there’d be nothing wrong with a Romney candidacy or presidency. Ditto the Romneybots.

I sure am glad American conservatism has such smart people on its side!

avgjo on April 25, 2012 at 1:48 PM

What is next?

LegendHasIt on April 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Obama endorses Romney and the taxpayers pay for his speech. Yes, he can.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM

..I sure miss his beer!

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM

God that was nasty stuff. I may still have one of the mini cans in the shed if you are really desperate.

cozmo on April 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM

We already see the fact in nearly every single poll that Romney collects more crossover Democrats than Obama collects crossover Republicans.

And of course they will all come out for Romney in the general, right? They aren’t trying to set the pick with the guy 0bama has had six years to prepare to run against, right? Nosiiree! *eyeroll*

I believe in the election in November, the Clintonistas are going to state a coup against Obama and vote en masse for Romney.

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM

You mean like the PUMAs all came out for McCain in 2008? Fail.

Sekhmet on April 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM

The question that Greg asks is still a good one: If Jimmy Carter is comfortable with a Romney presidency, it’s a safe bet that a lot more Democrats will be, too.

BINGO!

Obama will lose in a landslide.

It’s not even going to be close. The only thing that will make it seem close will be the 55 electoral votes from California.

ButterflyDragon on April 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM

God that was nasty stuff. I may still have one of the mini cans in the shed if you are really desperate.

cozmo on April 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM

There is an auction house near my hometown that has about 20 cans of Billy Beer.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM

I miss Billy Carter every day.

BHO Jonestown on April 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM

He was the decent one in the family.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Obama endorses Romney and the taxpayers pay for his speech. Yes, he can.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM

..the way that clown and his minions are outgassing these gaffes — like munching on Fido soufflé and Ann Romney munching on bon bons — this kind of thing just might be imminent.

Besides, Schade, dint Axelrod as much as do that already?

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Sekhmet on April 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM

CP is a paid Rombot. Basically admitted it yesterday evening.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Carter is flipping us the bird.

jan3 on April 25, 2012 at 1:54 PM

God that was nasty stuff. I may still have one of the mini cans in the shed if you are really desperate.

cozmo on April 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM

..Boy, ain’t that the truth! Thanks, cozmo, but may I recommend that you eBay them? I remember some Billy Beer commanding a ferocious price as a collector’s item. Well, er, perhaps not.

Still in all, it’s part of Americana.

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Your choice is Romney or Obama. Are you simply attempting to persuade people to vote for Obama? Is that your ultimate goal? It surely LOOKS like that is what you are ultimately going for here.

I don’t think many are going to buy that argument.

crosspatch on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM

They won’t buy that argument because it is a strawman that you just fabricated out of whole cloth. Speak for yourself. If you want to argue about something I’ve actually written, all you have to do is provide a quote and respond to it. You don’t have to lie, just make reasoned arguments and have a civil debate.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:59 PM

It’s not even going to be close. The only thing that will make it seem close will be the 55 electoral votes from California.

ButterflyDragon on April 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Oh, sure, that’s what they said about McCain, too.

It’s going to be about 50/50, with Obama the likely winner.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

CP is a paid Rombot. Basically admitted it yesterday evening.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 1:54 PM

..jeeez, Bill, CP just happens to favor Romney now that he’s the nominee. Is that a sin? How does that square with AngryEd openly saying he will vote for Obama? Wasn’t it FloatingRock lamenting the passing of civil discourse here?

CP has made some good points and — from what I have seen — he’s nowhere near as strident and annoying as GrumpyEd.

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

dint Axelrod as much as do that already?

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Indeed, and it was Freudian. He was totally unaware of it.

Chris Wallace had him on the defensive like no other before.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2012 at 2:02 PM

carter endorses romney. and they have the gall to call the ABR crowd “liberals”

pot calling the kettle black. LOL

renalin on April 25, 2012 at 2:02 PM

..jeeez, Bill, CP just happens to favor Romney now that he’s the nominee. Is that a sin? How does that square with AngryEd openly saying he will vote for Obama? Wasn’t it FloatingRock lamenting the passing of civil discourse here?

CP has made some good points and — from what I have seen — he’s nowhere near as strident and annoying as GrumpyEd.

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

He just annoys me because he pushes McCain’s stupid “conservatives are only voting against Romney because he’s a Mormon” argument from the SC primary, and he keeps calling Romney the new Reagan.

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

They won’t buy that argument because it is a strawman…
FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I’m not sure its quite the strawman that you think it is.

Philosophically, you may not want either Obama or Romney to win.

But, for Practical purposes, one of them will be President come November.

Its ok to take an ideological stand. To try and log a protest vote (or non-vote).

But, please do realize that back in the real world, if you don’t want Romney to win, then you are OK with Obama winning.

Some here (not making an accusation against you, just a general observation) seem to be rooting for Obama to beat Romney.

Most of the rest of us find that position simply silly, and we are not afraid to call people out on it.

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Don’t be a dirtball. Facts, please. Citeation, references, examples? Otherwise STFU.

HomeoftheBrave on April 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I really wish that there was some way for Romney supporters to support their candidate in a positive way rather than ad homenem attacks.

Romney is a notorious flip/flopper, if you weren’t aware of that already then I don’t know what to tell you.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

But, for Practical purposes, one of them will be President come November.

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

A 3rd party will win, if there is a good one, because the American people are tired of all the Democrat and Republican corruption that is destroying the nation and its future.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Yes, primary in all our minds day-to-day is the state of Jimmy Carter’s comfort level at any given time. Mm hm. This won’t cost Romney that many conservative votes. Could even out because it’ll lead to even more Dem cross-over than there will already be. Obama is such an obvious disaster that even your average habitual hereditary Democrat can see it. Of the rest, those who even know who Carter is, considering the fuzzy thinking of most dyed-in-the-wool Ds, a good number of them may take it as an endorsement of Romney in the general election. I have met people who to this day think Carter was a good president. Really. True. I swear.

curved space on April 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Oh, sure, that’s what they said about McCain, too.

It’s going to be about 50/50, with Obama the likely winner.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

No one said that about McCain. Your memory is rotten.

jan3 on April 25, 2012 at 2:10 PM

But, please do realize that back in the real world, if you don’t want Romney to win, then you are OK with Obama winning.

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

No, that’s just your own groundless opinion. In fact there have been successful 3rd party’s in the past, the Republican Party was one of them. Now it is so corrupt that it is a threat to the nation and needs to be replaced. Either that or the Democrat Party needs to be replaced with something better and the Republican Party can be the Democrat Party it always wanted to be.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:10 PM

No one said that about McCain. Your memory is rotten.

jan3 on April 25, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I was actually here back at the time in ’08 and remember a lot of the commentators here from that time but don’t recall seeing you there.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM

A 3rd party will win, if there is a good one, because the American people are tired of all the Democrat and Republican corruption that is destroying the nation and its future.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Isn’t that a bit pie-in-the-sky?

I abhor cynicism, but consider myself a realist. We’ve settled into a 2-party system. We’ve spent more time as a nation with 2 dominant parties than we did when 3rd parties actually had a chance.

Like it or not, the choice this November will be between Romney and Obama.

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM

I have met people who to this day think Carter was a good president. Really. True. I swear.

curved space on April 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I have met people who think Bush was a good President too. They were both horrible.

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Isn’t that a bit pie-in-the-sky?

RightWay79 on April 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Isn’t an election between two Hope and Change candidates at this crucial crossroads our nations history in a bit pie in the sky?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:16 PM

If you’ve lost Carter…..
Would advise the HA35 that they REALLY need to step up their game to recruit more numbers to their cause or they may be saying President-elect Romney on November 6th…

Bradky on April 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Are we going to be done with the Polish firing squad soon?

How about we stop beating each other up for ten seconds and work to win the damned election?

Ignore the damn mobey’s, they are here to get Obama votes, either by goading the pride of the Paulian voters, or by driving down conservatives hopes and getting them to stay home.

Only an utter fool believes Romney is the same as Obama.. Romney’s an old fashioned republican New England moderate.. I wish he was more conservative, but you work with the tools you have, not the ones who wish you could have gotten.

The debt, the economy, war, Iran,.. we need to get real..

The fight is here, we didn’t get to pick the general, or the ground, or the enemies tactics… So we have to prove we are the better foot soldiers for our beliefs. We have to make up for deficiencies with grit, with facts, and with enthusiasm..

Forget getting perfect,.. ain’t gonna happen.

I didn’t pick Mitt firs, or second either.. but you know it’s time to stop throwing tantrums over it and just get it done. I’m a Reagan conservative, that has not changed,.. and whatever issues I disagree with Mitt on are secondary to beating the man who is robbing our children, slandering us, defaming half the country to win a seat he’s unfit to hold..

Time to man up and work hard to defeat Obama..

we can argue about who is ore pure.. AFTER we win.. the rest is meaningless bullsh*t which only helps the left.

mark81150 on April 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM

So we have to prove we are the better foot soldiers for our beliefs……..
mark81150 on April 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM

SOME of us are.

By holding to those beliefs, rather than letting political expediency and fear make us sublimate those beliefs to the will of the squish majority.

LegendHasIt on April 25, 2012 at 2:22 PM

It would have been more entertaining if Clinton had said this, I’m not 100% certain Jimmy knows who Mitt Romney is, IYKWIM.

di butler on April 25, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Isn’t an election between two Hope and Change candidates at this crucial crossroads our nations history in a bit pie in the sky?

FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Actaully, the Romney/Obama match will take place this November 6th. I wouldn’t call that pie in the sky.

Would you guys just watch the video I linked to? FloatingRock on April 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM
No. Your arguments thus far have been farcical. I would expect the same from the link. The choices are Romney or Obama. Romney is a competent businessman, thus, in at least one respect better than Obama. Even if they were the same, when something isn’t working (Obama), it makes sense to try something you haven’t tried before (Romney). In what respect do you feel Obama is a better president than Romney would be?

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I could list many other reasons I feel Romney would be better. I kept it to one for simplicity. I’m still waiting for a single superior quality of Obama.

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM

CP has made some good points and — from what I have seen — he’s nowhere near as strident and annoying as GrumpyEd.

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Heck I have even agreed with crosspatch on several points …

conservative tarheel on April 25, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Buckshot Bill on April 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

..I take your point. Truthfully, a lot of things you say irritate me but I mean that cordially and your statements make me think.

:-D

I get the feeling that we (you and I) can have a conversation and respect our different opinions. This is pretty much the case with CP as well.

By the way, I am 1,000% ABO and Romney is a means to that end. I respect the reservations you and other may have about him and DO NOT THINK LESS OF YOU (nor try to demean you all) for your apprehensions. (And I don;t mean that in a condescending way either.)

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM

I could list many other reasons I feel Romney would be better. I kept it to one for simplicity. I’m still waiting for a single superior quality of Obama.

talkingpoints on April 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM

..better golfer than Romney?

The War Planner on April 25, 2012 at 2:36 PM

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