Video: Police Academy, Afghanistan?

posted at 6:01 pm on April 24, 2012 by Morgen Richmond

Something a little more lighthearted in what is shaping up to be another relatively slow news week. Since we are now committed financially to Afghanistan through at least 2024, and no doubt millions and millions of dollars will continue to go towards hiring and training Afghan police, I thought it might be worthwhile to take a brief look at what we are getting for our money. Via Pajhwok Afghan News:

I can’t tell if these guys are training to be genuine bad-asses…or the keystone cops. I suppose a little jujitsu may come in handy from time to time when you need to force-submit your local Taliban chief, and who needs a battering ram when you can just high-kick your way through any obstacle. But someone with real police or military training experience is going to have to enlighten me on the purpose of those slow-motion drop maneuvers about three-quarters of the way through. Is this some sort of synchronized surrender technique? Because sadly that may come in handy too.

Or maybe it’s just intended to demonstrate fearlessness on the part of the graduating cadets. Because that they certainly are, with so many Afghan police bombed and murdered on a regular basis. In all seriousness we should be rooting for their success. Not just because of the blood and treasure we have invested in the country, but for the sake of regional stability and all the innocent people caught in the crossfire in the fight against extremism. Ultimately the Afghan people will have to sustain this fight on their own, and it will certainly require no shortage of bravery and skill on the part of their security forces. I hope they are up to the challenge.


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You are looking at a buch of corrupt individuals who will turn on us in a heart beat.

they lie on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

So the falling down thing…I don’t get it. Are the practicing being shot???

dirtseller on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Why do I find this post offensive, and not in a funny Ace of Spades kind of way?

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM

So the falling down thing…I don’t get it.

dirtseller on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Oh, I don’t know, maybe they’re practicing how to hit the ground when shots are fired, and demonstrating the synchronicity of a well-honed police squad?

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Police Academy…..The Movie…..but much more
Deadly’er!!!!
(A tad sarc).

canopfor on April 24, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Afganistan’s youtube response to the Iranian Ninja Action Squad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjpFYVvwBo

JeremiahJohnson on April 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Babies born in Afghanistan on the day our first boots hit the soil there are now 11 years old. They are in 5th or 6th grade. Their generation has more in school than any generation in history. But they are still only 11 years old.

I sincerely have no problem with holding on there at least until that first generation is old enough to begin to take their place as adults in the society. As a father, it would seem that we would owe those kids that much after investing this much so far. To leave now would squander a much large investment than just our own blood and fortune, it may well squander a much different future for Afghanistan looking forward over the next 50 years.

crosspatch on April 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM

So the falling down thing…I don’t get it. Are the practicing being shot???

dirtseller on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

You didn’t see the bullets they were dodging? That was a live fire exercise. Very impressive.

TexasDan on April 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Where are the female police officers?

Mark1971 on April 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM

I.I.C.O. Islam In, Chaos Out.

There’s no hope for any Muslim land.

Phase out and bomb from afar.

profitsbeard on April 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM

So the falling down thing…I don’t get it. Are the practicing being shot???

dirtseller on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Human dominoes.

RickB on April 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

The Boys better look out,the Iranian Womens
Ninja’s might deal a World of Hurt!!
(sarc).
——–

Iranian Ninjas-Iran-01-29-2012
******************************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjpFYVvwBo

canopfor on April 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Afganistan’s youtube response to the Iranian Ninja Action Squad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjpFYVvwBo

JeremiahJohnson on April 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM

JeremiahJohnson:D*mmitt,you beat me to it,I Salutey:)

canopfor on April 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

The police acted stupidly.

Rusty Allen on April 24, 2012 at 6:24 PM

it may well squander a much different future for Afghanistan looking forward over the next 50 years.

crosspatch on April 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM

In 50 years, at present demographic rates, Europe will be Islamic. Who will be teaching OUR children then?

Cleombrotus on April 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

The slow motion drop is a common practice in self-defense classes. You usually see it as a way to teach beginners how to hit the ground without hurting themselves. The goal is to teach them how to fall on their arms (rather than face, chest, other vital body part) to distribute the weight and reduce the risk of injury. Goofy looking, I know, but actually practical and used frequently.

sansapprobation on April 24, 2012 at 6:26 PM

sansapprobation on April 24, 2012 at 6:26 PM

I notice that they fell into a plank, not easy to do.

Cleombrotus on April 24, 2012 at 6:29 PM

So the falling down thing…I don’t get it. Are the practicing being shot???

dirtseller on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

dirtseller:

Ahem,the reason,is for a practised conditioning,so as when
a suicide Goon,goes Ka-Blewy,the theory is,that you will be
carried away,as the shock-wave is in progress,to safety,and
will less’n the chance of injury!

I would think that field testing this theory,should of been
done already,to work out any kinks!!
(snark).

canopfor on April 24, 2012 at 6:29 PM

What ? NO black police officers ?
Racists !!!!!!

burrata on April 24, 2012 at 6:29 PM

The slow motion drop is a common practice in self-defense classes. You usually see it as a way to teach beginners how to hit the ground without hurting themselves. The goal is to teach them how to fall on their arms (rather than face, chest, other vital body part) to distribute the weight and reduce the risk of injury. Goofy looking, I know, but actually practical and used frequently.

sansapprobation on April 24, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Yup, even the fake rasslers learn “how to fall”. It’s an essential part of any serious self-defense training.

whatcat on April 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM

In 50 years, at present demographic rates, Europe will be Islamic. Who will be teaching OUR children then?

Cleombrotus on April 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

I see some evidence of cultural backlash in Europe that might be changing that migration.

crosspatch on April 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

I know they look like morons, but learning how to fall without hurting yourself is the first technique taught in Judo. Believe it or not falling with a rigid body can hurt your neck really badly.

MJZZZ on April 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

I see some evidence of cultural backlash in Europe that might be changing that migration.

crosspatch on April 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

What you see as a cultural backlash, I see as the beginnings of the clash of civilizations – in the form of social friction.

They are not going to back down when they know that time is on their side.

Cleombrotus on April 24, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Where are the flaming hoops? We all know security forces must be able to jump through flaming hoops.

Boogeyman on April 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

I know they look like morons, but learning how to fall without hurting yourself is the first technique taught in Judo. Believe it or not falling with a rigid body can hurt your neck really badly.
MJZZZ on April 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Yup, again.

Judo Falling Tips

whatcat on April 24, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Watch the documentary on Netflix called “Camp Victory: Afghanistan” and all that you have seen from the ANP and ANA will be explained to you in depressing detail.

Dr. Manhattan on April 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Dr. Manhattan on April 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Don’t have to go to Netflix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=279kKHDVEvU

Cleombrotus on April 24, 2012 at 6:54 PM

These pathetic theatrics are about all you are going to get for your money, you will get nothing for your people who are shot in the back. Kicking a box made out of veneer thick wood is not very tough.Teh ghey gymnastics were pretty weak. If it were not so tragic and stupid, it would be quite funny.

BL@KBIRD on April 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM

I’d be really impressed if I saw a video of them learning how to read.

Nessuno on April 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM

These guys need to watch Dirty Harry movies to see how its done.

BobMbx on April 24, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I took Judo for 3 years when I was a kid. The moves you watched were a front and back break-falls. These techniques are taught during your first week of almost any wrestling/ground-style martial art. If that is all they have at graduation, then might I humbly suggest…they’re screwed.

DrRich on April 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

sorry, I see others have beaten me to the punch

DrRich on April 24, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Is this some sort of synchronized surrender technique? Because sadly that may come in handy too.

Have you seen some of their early attempts these Afghan soldiers have improved they are showing they can train in unison. This is an improvement much more professional they are not going to come out as well trained as American or NATO troops they just don’t have the experience or educational background. But this does show some are showing they are getting the point of their training.

We train troops as a cohesive unit they need to have that instilled in them I don’t think it comes naturally.

Dr Evil on April 24, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Half of them look like Fidel Castro.

Tc0061 on April 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM

So the falling down thing…I don’t get it.

dirtseller on April 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Oh, I don’t know, maybe they’re practicing how to hit the ground when shots are fired, and demonstrating the synchronicity of a well-honed police squad?

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

…they think they’re French!

KOOLAID2 on April 24, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Maybe these guys are the ones that would go up against the Iranian Female Ninjas that were in a similar video a couple of months ago?

schmuck281 on April 24, 2012 at 11:29 PM

With the Many, many recruits at this fine institution, the people of Afghanistan will have a very, very, very safe country.

Allow me to introduce our head instructor Lt. Harris.

Jones Zemkophill on April 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM

They synchronized ‘taking a dive’ comes in handy when they face their good pals in the Taliban

DANEgerus on April 25, 2012 at 2:56 AM

As others mentioned, the forward drops are training to take a fall. Important to know, since if you don’t know how to fall properly in a fight you’ve probably lost it.

The back drops are a quick and easy way to begin ground fighting. Person shoves you, punches you, whatever and you start to lose balance you go into a fall on your back and prepare to defend from the ground. It’s much better then struggling to regain your balance while someone is hitting you, you can also transition to your side arm, or just go hands/feet on. Ground fighting is a devistating tool if you know how to do it properly; watch an MMA match sometime. They almost always end up on the ground eventually.

wolfva on April 25, 2012 at 6:50 AM

There are some very, very brave Afghan police and soldiers. Many have died at the hands of the taliban.

NHElle on April 25, 2012 at 10:26 AM

There are some very, very brave Afghan police and soldiers. Many have died at the hands of the taliban.

NHElle

I know from my own experience in Afghanistan that this is true. But the only benefit I’ve seen from the sort of police training in the video is getting Afghan National Police to view themselves as more than just guys in uniforms with cheap old AK’s — important, but there are better ways to spend their time and learn this lesson. On the unit level (districts and provinces) they need training in the rule of law, in the concept of “protect & serve,” and in basic police procedures (including basic investigative techniques). This video is from Nangahar in the east, but I think the best practical training has gone on in the south through Canadian-led programs.

A much larger problem that the Coalition governments (including ours) don’t really address is the corruption at the top. A guy becomes a district police chief because he paid off someone at the Ministry of Interior, and he expects to recoup his expenses through fees collected at “checkpoints” and so on. There’s no incentive for improvement from the leadership in Kabul (which controls everything; local governments are mere administrative entities and each ministry runs its own operations on the local level), and we just keep funneling money into those corrupt ministries and expecting the Afghans to somehow shape up because having more of our money to spend on their own gives them an ownership stake in success. Yeah, right.

Farragut Jones on April 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Let me add one other thing regarding the general tone of mockery here. We could be spending our money a lot more productively, and we could be training ANP a lot more effectively. And yes, there is a very real problem with some ANSF turning on our guys.

But at the same time, there are a lot of ANP who put their lives and the lives of their families on the line every day for practically no pay and no appreciation from many of their countrymen. And if you’ve been there talking to the little children of an Afghan policeman who got blown up defusing an IED meant for our guys, or talking with Afghan police who are dealing with the fact that one of their guys just got taken and brutally murdered (and I’m not talking about a quick shot to the back of the head) . . . well, I think that gives you an entirely different — and a lot more realistic — perspective.

Farragut Jones on April 25, 2012 at 11:33 AM

That is what our “Police Trainer” are teaching them! I mean that’s all they could use in backstreet LA, where if a Policeman actually kicked an armed robber the robber could sue, win, and retire immediately. Unfortunately the training routine doesn’t really cover how the Policeman should react when faced with a mob wielding AK47s and shooting at you….

Maybe next year when the USA provides another $599 million dollars for Police Training Academies in Afghanistan.

dahni on April 25, 2012 at 11:45 AM