You’re welcome to think that. Still, the courts continue to tell people asking the questions to go away and after three years, none of these reasonable people can even find a reasonable lawyer to help them. After a while, you have to think that maybe the court thinks the whole question is unreasonable. Keep in mind, the courts never ruled that Reagan wasn’t born on Mars. So go ahead and try to get a ruling on it and tell me it’s a reasonable question while they’re throwing you out.

Ronnie on April 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

The courts have told people to go away because only a state Attorney General has the authority to question the qualification of a sitting president. The sitting president is now a candidate again.

It’s comments like yours that make me embarrassed for our side!

bluegill on April 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I didn’t know your side was capable of being embarrassed, blueboy.

Post a list of the constitutional experts of any political stripe who claim Rubio is eligible.

The only problem is that it is Dick Morris going all over the place saying “It has to be Rubio” and I don’t always trust Morris’ judgment. Romney tends to be swayed and he needs to sit down and really make a wise choice. I agree with the person, however, who said that if he was stronger this wouldn’t be such a problem.

congma on April 24, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Condi v. Hillary?

Everything changes should Obama get the second term. Anything he does that can be reversed will still take generations to do so. Let THAT sink in, campers.

We need to win without cheating, and with numbers big enough to beat back any legal challenges. No more fooling around here.

Here is hoping that America gets it together in 2012 so that we end up with “A New Hope,” and not “Revenge of the Sith.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IpHHtl8gC4

The Latest Rasmussen looks bleak for The One

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that Mitt Romney earns 48% of the vote, while President Obama attracts support from 44%

A president’s Job Approval rating is one of the best indicators for assessing his chances of reelection. Typically, the president’s Job Approval rating on Election Day will be close to the share of the vote he receives. Currently, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) at least somewhat disapprove.

Intensity of support or opposition can have an impact on campaigns. Currently, 23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -18 (see trends).

Allen West for VP

if you rewound to ANYTIME prior to the election of Barack Obama and asked someone to try and define in real terms the difference between natural-born, naturalized, etc., and the constitutional requirements therein, the absolute majority of Americans would be going with what the birther’s claim today.

preallocated on April 24, 2012 at 9:37 AM

It’s comments like yours that make me embarrassed for our side!

The legal precendent that existed WELL BEFORE Obama held that “natural born citizen” meant someone who is entitled to the rights of citizenship at the time of their birth.

It is different than “native born” in this way: someone could have been born to US Citizens outside the US. For example, George Romney (yep, Mitt’s dad, who ran for president!) is a natural born citizen and not a native born citizen because he was born in Mexico to American citizen parents.

You people act as if interpretations of the Constitution were changed for Obama. They weren’t. LONG AGO several SC decisions had already defined “natural born citizen” as described above.

The people trying to change legal consensus/precedent are the birthers.

You people are embarrassing us! It is a stupid, pointless issue. The best you people can say is that judicial consensus over the last century with regard to the “natural born citizen” clause is wrong, and even that wouldn’t even be worth your time. I’m beginning to wonder if maybe you people really are racist, after all. I never bought the racist claim in the past. Or maybe you guys just like thinking that you supposedly know some secret information or conspiracy that the government is supposedly trying to suppress?

You guys are free to go on and on about Rubio’s family history till you’re blue in the face, but others are just as free to point out what a silly waste of time it is. I don’t think you’re as dangerous as the 9/11 truthers, but I do think that similar mocking/ostracism is in order here. It’s nothing personal.

if you rewound to ANYTIME prior to the election of Barack Obama and asked someone to try and define in real terms the difference between natural-born, naturalized, etc., and the constitutional requirements therein, the absolute majority of Americans would be going with what the birther’s claim today.

I’d like to see what BO (Before Obummer) text books said on the subject. Anybody out there have any old school texts on the Constitution or American Government?

Monkeytoe on April 24, 2012 at 8:00 AM

Romney is 6’2, and Rubio looks about half a head shorter standing next to him, so he’s 5’9-5’10.

Not that Obama was born anywhere but in America, but that his father had dual national loyalty, etc.

Or to put it another way, if the Republicans had been the ones in 2008 running a Presidential candidate with a non-citizen father, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

So thorough is the dissemination of misinformation and the law is what WE say it is!, I really don’t know if there is much that could save us, one way or the other.

How tall is Rubio? He looks like a little kid standing next to Romney. If that is the visual that will constantly be presented, I think just from that aspect, it should be a no-go for Rubio. I note that you can’t find his height listed anywhere online, which indicates to me that he is not very tall.

I know this is stupid stuff, but it is the kind of thing that moves votes.

Plus, if Romney picks Rubio, that almost by definition means he is going to cave on some kind of amnesty to illegals – which means I won’t be voting for Romney. I was set to begrudgingly vote for Romney, but that is one step too far. it won’t win him any Hispanic votes and will be terrible policy.

We have already had seven Presidents elected whose parents were foreign nationals when they were born. I don’t know how many Vice Presidents and candidates pver the years meet that category. The argument is simply asinine on the face of it.

crosspatch on April 24, 2012 at 2:28 AM

Have you ever read the Constitution? Do you see the part I quoted in bold above?

Just citing cases where the court has ruled that a person born here is a “natural born citizen” regardless of the nationality of their parents.

There’s no real room for argument on the issue, the courts have long ago decided the issue.

crosspatch on April 24, 2012 at 12:19 AM

There is nothing in that case ruling about natural born citizen.