Bank of America tells gun manufacturer it no longer wants their business?
posted at 10:26 pm on April 20, 2012 by Allahpundit
I’m thinking there has to be more to this story, not because I doubt that there are lefty corporate execs who find guns and gun owners loathsome but because from a business standpoint this is the highest of high insanity. My strong suspicion from years of following news on the right is that gun enthusiasts are the single most passionate interest group in conservative America. The barest whiff of some form of new regulation becomes an instant sensation online. If I ran a business they’d be the very last lobby I’d want to cross, just because they’re ready, willing, and able to organize a mighty effective boycott. Surely BOA, a company that’s headquartered in a southern city, knows the shinolastorm they’d be inviting if they pulled something like this.
And yet, here we are.
McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing, McMillan Group International have been collectively banking with Bank of America for 12 years. Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President, Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking came to my office. He scheduled the meeting as an “account analysis” meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them. He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and have become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.
At this point I interrupted him and asked “Can I possible save you some time so that you don’t waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer what my business.”
“That is correct” he says…
“So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?”
Mr Fox confirmed that it was. At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing let for him to say.
Any reason to think that BOA really might make a politically motivated decision to cut ties with gun businesses? Well, maybe. Read Bob Owens’s post at PJM for lots of interesting background on McMillan and BOA:
Bank of America was the recipient of well over 100 billion dollars in federal money. They are also one of just two vendors processing payments for Barack Obama’s 2012 presidential campaign, employing a system that disables safeguards against illegal foreign donations. Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, North Carolina, is the site of the Democratic Nation Convention in September.
This is at least the third time Bank of America has implemented a discriminatory policy against gun manufacturers. In early 2001, a scandal erupted over the bank’s attempt to discriminate against another Arizona-based company. The resulting public outrage forced a reversal of the policy.
In 2010, Bank of America attempted a similar action, and was again forced to “clarify” their position…
The boss emeritus devoted a column in January to BOA’s longstanding relationship with the Democrats:
During the 2010 midterm elections, former DNC chairman and ex-Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine secured a $15 million revolving line of credit at BofA and then finagled another $17 million loan from the taxpayer-bailed-out bank. According to Federal Election Commission records, BofA accepted as collateral the DNC’s donor mailing list. Yep, its donor mailing list for $32 million in loans. As investigative reporter Richard Pollock asked at the time: “What message does a largely unsecured $32 million credit line for the Democratic Party send to thousands of cash-starved small businesses across the nation who can’t secure any credit even with tangible assets?”…
Bank of America is to sweetheart loans and Democratic Party payoffs as Paula Deen is to sugar and bacon grease:
– The massively troubled bank raked in a middle-of-the-night, taxpayer-funded $45 billion banking bailout in 2008 and an estimated $931 billion in secret federal emergency loans.
– In 2008, BofA’s political action committee gave its biggest contributions to Barack Obama totaling $421,000.
Long story short: If the Democratic leadership needed a favor from BOA, the bank might be in a position where it felt obliged to comply even at the risk of some sort of political backlash on the right. And it’s true that BOA will have a major presence at the convention this year — as noted above, it’s being held in a stadium sponsored by the bank, in the city where BOA is headquartered — so in theory, there may be some pressure to divest from businesses that aren’t simpatico with the Democratic message. But to believe that is to ignore electoral reality. There’s a reason Obama, Pelosi, and Reid never went hard after guns when they had the numbers in Congress: It’s a potentially lethal issue for them in swing states like Pennsylvania and Ohio, where there are blue-collar gun owners who are willing to vote Democratic for economic reasons so long as they have no more important reason not to. If you think I’m exaggerating, go read this recent op-ed by Ohio’s Democratic former governor, Ted Strickland, attacking Romney on guns from the right. The last thing they’d want before the election, when they’re trying to pick off working-class whites in rural areas from Romney, is to throw a gun-grab scare into them. I think it’s more likely, actually, that BOA will get an angry call from a top Democrat telling them to knock this off than it is that they’ve gotten a call telling them to cut ties with gun owners. And no, there surely isn’t any pressure from the lefty base squeezing Democrats on this. They looked the other way while Obama tore up the War Powers Act in order to go to war in Libya. If they’re willing to tolerate that, do you really think they care who BOA does business with?
Exit question: What’s really going on here, then? Does someone in BOA management hate gun manufacturers so much that they’re willing to invite a boycott over it?
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Simple fix. The NRA has some very nice courses that do exactly what you claim to want. One for younger kids focuses on teaching children that guns are not to be played with. And to be on the safe side, older kids should take the NRA Hunter Safety Course.
Of course, this assumes you actually care about gun safety rather than just wanting to call guns evil.
There Goes the Neighborhood on May 8, 2013 at 2:39 AM
My Dad beat my ass for what I did to his big, black, and (in the day) expensive automotive timing gun…
I am remarkably accurate with a bottle rocket launcher fashioned from one of Mom’s wire coat hangers…
PointnClick on May 8, 2013 at 4:43 AM
My oldest would turn a music stand into a rifle and a violin case into a bazooka. Fortunately, he was pointing them at another kid in the homeschool coop at the time or he’d still be locked up.
CJ on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 AM
I saw…albeit after the fact. I think my favorite quote from the entire massacre was:
Snobbery at its finest.
bigmacdaddy on May 8, 2013 at 7:23 AM
This is idiotic. Boys are supposed to play like this.
bluegill on May 8, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Gee, somehow this other story of a five year old with a REAL gun didn’t seem to get as much attention here on HA:
Five Year Old Shoots Two Year Old Sister With Gun He Got As A Gift
I guess the pencil thing is funnier.
chumpThreads on May 8, 2013 at 7:51 AM
The sad part of all this is that it is the leftist indoctrinated educrats that are behaving like 6 year olds fearful of pencils that are accompanied by the bang, bang, got ya, words.
Why would our government agencies stockpile real ammo when such trained government employees can’t even handle pencil guns?
Perhaps homeland security ought to seek graphite control legislation and background checks to close the stationary store loophole.
If we could save but one life….
Don L on May 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Now thar ya go agin, diffusing shrill emotion with rational thought…
Don L on May 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM
So is this:
I’m not thinking you’ll find too many folks on here who find humor in an unsupervised 5-year old with a loaded weapon.
Maybe you do.
But I’m pretty sure that no 5-year old with a pencil has ever killed his sister.
But why let facts cloud your talking points?
bigmacdaddy on May 8, 2013 at 8:15 AM
How is the one thing the same as the other?
These “zero tolerance” policies are idiotic. Pointing to a tragedy with a real gun does not make criminalizing the picture of a gun any less idiotic.
While I am a firm 2nd amendment defender, I think it is foolish, to say the least, to give a 5 year old a gun. But that has nothing to do with punishing a five year old for pretending a pencil is a gun.
It is this kind of idiotic speech control and thought control that lefties fantasize about that shows their true colors as tyrants.
Punishing a child for pretending a pencil is a gun will accomplish absolutely nothing. It is the height of idiocy (and the fact that “educators” are the ones coming up with this shows why we need to overhaul the public school systems, the first step of which is to get rid of all teachers’ unions). That anyone believes that punishing a child for using his imagination is a) a good idea or b) will accomplish the results sought is disturbing.
As far as the tactic of “look over there – a tragic story about a gun death”. What is that supposed to prove? Unfortunately, there will always be tragic events. Pools kill more kids every year than guns. Should we outlaw pools? Cars kill more kids every year than guns. Should we outlaw cars? I could go on and on.
There will always be bad/stupid parents and kids who do things that get themselves hurt. We can’t use that as an excuse to limit freedom.
Monkeytoe on May 8, 2013 at 8:16 AM
I played quite a bit with cap guns when I was a child. I also pointed my finger at people and went “bang!” while at recess at school, I’m sure. I may have even used a pencil or pen. That wouldn’t be surprising.
I am saddened for America’s youth.
Chris of Rights on May 8, 2013 at 8:27 AM
Are you kidding? You must have missed the pressure cooker parody thread here after the Boston bombing.
My point is, it’s easy to poke fun at administrative overreaction while ignoring the real-life tragedies.
chumpThreads on May 8, 2013 at 8:51 AM
I agree that the school administrator overreacted.
But just maybe, in a country where the cult of the gun thrives, such a reaction is to be expected. Perhaps zero tolerence in schools is the only antidote to the rampant gun fetishism afflicting our society.
chumpThreads on May 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM
So – thought control. Begin early with the kids and train them, through thought control (i.e., punishing them for having “bad” thoughts) is the answer to our 2nd Amendment rights?
The funny thing is, you don’t realize how much this proves that leftists are fascists at heart. Today we’ll start by punishing children for having “impure” thoughts. tomorrow, what?
You, and those like you, are sick and demented and need help.
Should we take care of the pool fetish also? Again, pools kill more children each year than guns. Should we start punishing kids for pretending to drive cars? After all, cars kill more people each year than guns and we definitely have a car fetish in our society.
Just think about how inane your thought process is and how stupid you are. Try for a minute to understand that.
Monkeytoe on May 8, 2013 at 9:05 AM
I wonder what a trigger guard for a No. 2 lead blasting semi-automatic (it has to be “sharpened” to be re-loaded) would look like?
sadatoni on May 8, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Since she obviously cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality, I’d like to know what the school system intends to do about its mentally disturbed employees.
dominigan on May 8, 2013 at 9:27 AM
With a gun – NOT a pencil.
Guns are NOT toys, and pencils are NOT guns.
blink on May 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM
She doesn’t. She’s projecting her own thoughts upon another person and that’s easy to do with small child. Kids that age aren’t watching the news.
To the teacher with dodgeball…You’re not the only guerrilla teacher out there. I’ve laughed many times over the years with rational teachers who roll their eyes at this BS. And under whose watch, will let children..be children.
You should ask my kids what they think about tag being banned. They’ve informed me that ALL of the kids know the ‘rule’ and so just call the game something else, like ‘Zombies’. Teachers laugh, kids run and it’s all good.
Btw, I also take every opportunity that I can to let administrators know that the whole thing is foolish. The last time was at a parent meeting for a big outing and afterwards, had a conversation with the principal. I talked about the tag ban and he reiterated the rules. I said “of course that rule makes sense..I remember all of the rampant, terrible injuries from playing tag as a child..like a skinned knee’. And then just eyeballed him. He literally had nothing to say and the idea of it being stupid just hung in the air.
On the flip side, you can have someone’s beloved child acting like little Hitler in a PE class or at recess and all that happens is Junior gets a finger waggle. While every kid in the class knows that Junior is a bullying butthead..but Mom is in the PTA or something, and he’s shielded.
I don’t think that administrators really know what their policies are teaching. If they did, they would feel incredibly embarrassed. Kids aren’t stupid, they can see the stupidity and inconsistancy of discipline policies, and they figure it out at a very young age.
GeeWhiz on May 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM
The ability of the flawed, liberal brain to equate these two is mind blowing.
What’s sad is that that chumpThreads probably isn’t even embarrassed about what he just wrote.
blink on May 8, 2013 at 9:33 AM
I have a feeling that this idiot school would have punished this kid for using his index finger and making noises. Bethanne would be claiming, “The index finger is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made”
Idiots.
blink on May 8, 2013 at 9:36 AM
Everyone knows pencils and Pop Tarts are gateway guns. You gotta nip these things in the bud while they’re young…
Seriously, until we start holding these officials accountable, these moonbats will keep doing this. Let a couple of school board members lose a couple of elections over this stupidity and you’ll see it stop.
Russ in OR on May 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM
I prefer those multi-colored pens with with like 10 different colors, er I mean barrels, so I can relentlessly spray my foes with deadly colored ink.
Nutstuyu on May 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Ah, but pencils are usually sharp, pointy things. You could poke somebody’s eye out with one! I’m quite surprised that liberal teachers actually allow such lethal items to be used by their impressionable and innocent charges.
I’d expect nothing more dangerous than than dull pointed crayons be used by children in the classroom.
/s
hawkeye54 on May 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Criminals will certainly not have to worry about any ammunition shortages. The left has been working very hard to raise an entire generation that is terrified of guns. Oh, how much easier it will be for anyone to simply brandish a weapon (real or not) and have everyone cower in fear, pass out, soil themselves, etc…
reaganaut on May 8, 2013 at 10:42 AM
“I’d expect nothing more dangerous than than dull pointed crayons be used by children in the classroom.”
How about dull pointed administrators and teachers?
Art on May 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM
They think shot refers to whatever fancy Grey Goose vodka they had at the time, and what was heard was the shot glass being slammed down on the bar.
Nutstuyu on May 8, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Depends on how big it is. They might want to use it for sex ed class.
Nutstuyu on May 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM
When you have no shame, it’s hard to be embarrassed.
bigmacdaddy on May 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Right on brother/sister/pet! Let’s ban all guns because of an unsupervised toddler right after we ban all cars…because of an unsupervised toddler.
Nutstuyu on May 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Hmm, link didn’t work. Well Google the phrase “Four-year-old crashes car into McDonald’s”.
Or is that too much work for you chump?
Nutstuyu on May 8, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Well, they certainly shouldn’t be allowed to have guns!
GWB on May 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Please tell me you are trolling with this comment.
Even if you’re serious, just do me a favor and tell me you aren’t, for my benefit.
I’m not ready to believe that people who think this way actually exist. Sure, we hear about them from time to time with ridiculous stories like this, but at least then, I can comfort myself with the hope that somehow, the story has been horribly misreported, and there’s important context missing.
Please tell me you’re not serious – I’m not ready for a world where this level of inanity exists concentrated in a single person. I’m just not there yet.
RINO in Name Only on May 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM
My dad took his guns out of the gun cabinet and showed me what each one did, how to use it and when to use it. He then put them all back in and said that I was not to touch them when he or a approved adult was present. I was also required to take a hunter’s safety course at a young age.
scrubbiedude on May 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM
BRILLIANT!!!
runawayyyy on May 8, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Seriously, how many children outside of a few zip codes in big cities could even describe a drive-by (as opposed to a drive-up (window) or drive-in (Sonic). I suspect teachers in those schools have their hands full and tend to let semi-automatic chicken fingers slide. The vast majority of kids are blissfully unaware of the larger uglier parts of life unless set upon by shrieking hysterical adults who seem to get pleasure from the children’s fear.
Second piece of idiocy – “everything they see on television news”. Is this person so detached from reality that they think children of any stripe watch TV news? Back in the day with 3 channels maybe, but ratings indicate adults don’t even watch it.
deadman on May 8, 2013 at 4:55 PM
This sort of over-reaction is part of what has been described as a war on boys. Active make-believe play is an important part of how children work out adult behavior and figure out how to tell right from wrong. When so-called educators either do not understand or are actively hostile to the way boys learn, I see it as child abuse or something very close to it. Increasing levels of regimentation and control are not good for children of either sex.
Replacing learning with indoctrination is likely to have a multitude of bad effects.
fast richard on May 9, 2013 at 6:53 AM
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