Pelosi: We have a clear agenda to amend the First Amendment

posted at 6:41 pm on April 19, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Eh, at least Nancy Pelosi isn’t trying to hide it that she wants to alter the First Amendment, that cherished declaration of the right to free speech:

“We have a clear agenda in this regard: [DISCLOSE], reform the system reducing the [role] of money in campaigns, and amend the Constitution to rid it of this ability for special interests to use secret, unlimited, huge amounts of money flowing to campaigns,” Pelosi said at her Thursday press briefing.

“I think one of the presenters [at a Democratic forum on amending the Constitution] yesterday said that the Supreme Court had unleashed a predator that was oozing slime into the political system, and that, indeed, is not an exaggeration,” said Pelosi. “Our Founders had an idea. It was called democracy. It said elections are determined by the people, the voice and the vote of the people, not by the bankrolls of the privileged few. This Supreme Court decision flies in the face of our Founders’ vision and we want to reverse it.”

The Supreme Court “decision” to which she refers is the SCOTUS majority opinion in Citizens United.

It ought to go without saying, but amending the First Amendment to allow Congress to regulate corporate political speech would significantly abridge the freedom of the press. Why? As CNSNews.com’s Terence Jeffrey writes, “Television networks, newspapers, publishing houses, movie studios and think tanks, as well as political action committees, are usually organized as, or elements of, corporations.”

Oh well, say Pelosi and other Democrats behind this three-pronged effort to rid the country of the Citizens United decision once and for all. Maryland Democratic Rep. Donna Edwards perhaps summed up the liberal position on this most clearly: “I mean, in my view, a corporation is not a person. It is not an individual. The rights that it has are those that are granted by the state, granted by the, by the Congress.”

Ms. Edwards misses a crucial point: The functions of government (what you might call the “rights” of government not in the original, inalienable sense, but in the sense of being the appropriate purview of government) are those that are granted by the people, with whom all power ultimately resides. If corporations as such don’t have natural rights (and I’d agree that they don’t, but the individuals that comprise them still do, including the right to pool their money for the purpose of political speech), then Congress certainly doesn’t have any rights of its own, either, including the right to regulate corporate political speech.

Fortunately, it seems highly unlikely that the people would grant Congress that ability through the amendment process — but trust Pelosi to continue to push for it.


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Don’t you wish someone would actually do this when she makes these comments?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKf2LBgsuqQ
stormridercx4 on April 20, 2012 at 3:22 AM

Hahahhah….the short video is worthy of a BigSven recommendation !

The Utube below also come with BigSven’s Top Recommendation. Same subject,—the highly deserved stomping and piling-on is simply delicious!! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQoaTrQEvos

BigSven on April 20, 2012 at 4:53 AM

Conservatives who sometimes feel isolated in our Sodom and Gomorrah culture need only remember this one encouraging sign — Nancy Pelosi, the face of the Kook Fringe in America, is the most despised politician in Washington, with an 11% approval rating.

Jaibones on April 20, 2012 at 6:31 AM

Then amend it. You have a clear procedure to change the constitution. Do it.

Stop trying to change it through the courts, executive fiat or congressional overreach.

Karmashock on April 20, 2012 at 7:01 AM

I have a clear agenda to make liberty-hating douchebags like Pelosi unemployed, permanently!

insidiator on April 20, 2012 at 7:29 AM

Everyone is reading this and then talking about speech. Doesn’t the 1st amendment also speak of religion?

MikeA on April 20, 2012 at 7:34 AM

Just go ahead and try to change the First Amendment. It will be the end of your career and any of those who support you.

SC.Charlie on April 20, 2012 at 7:47 AM

perhaps you haven’t read the actual Amendment proposed

it will allow full regulation of business, however, whenever, whyever.

John Kettlewell on April 20, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Allen West was right.

mankai on April 20, 2012 at 8:14 AM

Yes, we only allow illegal foreign contributions to the Obama campaign because they have turned off the id verification system on credit card donations.

mitchellvii on April 20, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Then applying the same definition, a labor union is not a person either so they are not allow to funnel their millions to Pelosi or any of her cronies. After all, they are a “special interest that keeps secret, unlimited, huge amounts of money flowing to campaigns”.

StB on April 20, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Although of course I don’t agree with this amendment, I am actual respectful of this route Pelosi wants to take. Too much living constitution and judicial activism to try and get AROUND something a liberal doesn’t like in the Constitution.

If you don’t like something in the Constitution, AMEND IT! No more back door cheats.

hayekorbust on April 20, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Campaign money works because “we the people” are gullible, apathetic and/or stupid. With, or without, money that won’t change. Most of the people voting in this country don’t have any idea who they’re voting for or what they stand for. The constitution if fine like it is. It’s “we the people” who are in need of amendments.

cajunpatriot on April 20, 2012 at 8:56 AM

said Pelosi. “Our Founders had an idea. It was called democracy Constitutional Republic…”

FIFY. How could a Speaker be so IGNORANT of American history?

dominigan on April 20, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Liberals are against freedom of association and free speech. As long as you belong to a blessed organization like a union or a properly behaved minority group them liberals want to shut you up.
Liberals see the Constituton as a way to infiltrate your lives when it was intended to get government out of your life.

gwelf on April 20, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Funny thing about Democrats is that they complain about corporations while taking money from corporations and they never mention taking money from Unions.

jeffn21 on April 20, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Conservatives who sometimes feel isolated in our Sodom and Gomorrah culture need only remember this one encouraging sign — Nancy Pelosi, the face of the Kook Fringe in America, is the most despised politician in Washington, with an 11% approval rating.

Jaibones on April 20, 2012 at 6:31 AM

Yet, this loon keeps getting voted into office by a majority of other kooks. Makes you wonder if voter fraud was taking place when she runs for re-election. Afterall, it’s not like this hasn’t been done by Demoncrats in the past and present..

Cherokee on April 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM

“Our Founders had an idea. It was called democracy. It said elections are determined by the people, the voice and the vote of the people, not by the bankrolls of the privileged few. “

And here I thought we were in a Constitutional Republic, with a Senate, a House of Representatives, A Supreme Court and a President. In Fact, the Founders warned us about Democracy and people like you.

Silly Me.

Bulletchaser on April 20, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Nanny Pelosi (D-Looney) is, hands down, the dumbest elected official on the planet.

locomotivebreath1901 on April 20, 2012 at 9:28 AM

do we need the Fairness Doctrine for PAC contributions?

audiotom on April 20, 2012 at 9:30 AM

And how does this buffoon think this is going to happen ? Doesn’t an amendment to the constitution have to have a 2/3 majority to pass either chamber of congress ? This from someone whose party of idiots doesn’t even have a simple majority of the chamber she sits in.

Could someone PLEASE retire this idiot.

deadrody on April 20, 2012 at 9:34 AM

“It ought to go without saying, but amending the First Amendment to allow Congress to regulate corporate political speech would significantly abridge the freedom of the press.”

responded Pelosi: “Well, we have to pass the constitutional amendment to find out what’s in it.”

Russ in OR on April 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM

My clear agenda is to see the madam fly away on her hammer, in the light blue suit she shoved The ‘Affordable Care’ Act upon the good people of America.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM

“It said elections are determined by the people, the voice and the vote of the people, not by the bankrolls of the privileged few.”

Hey Nancy, how about lobbying reform then? I would argue that has far more impact on how government is run and the laws that are passed on a daily basis than does Citizens United.

But we won’t discuss that, since it might lessen the actual influence of the Congresscritters.

gravityman on April 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM

No need to amend the First Amendment, just pretend it’s not there, like the Second Amendment.

Akzed on April 20, 2012 at 9:59 AM

After “We need to pass it so you can see what’s in it”, why even cover what this cackling old hen says? She’s a nothing now.

Yes, that’s a serious question.

FineasFinn on April 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM

“I’ve introduced a People’s Rights Amendment, which is very simple and straightforward,” Rep. Jim McGovern (D.-Mass.) said at the forum. “It would make clear that all corporate entities, for-profit and non-profit alike, are not people with constitutional rights.

And that’s exactly what it says.So this goes well beyond the First Amendment and says that if individuals band together and pool their resources under a corporate entity then they have relinquished all of their constitutional rights.

No Fifth Amendment rights, which means any property owned by a corporation can be seized without due process and no compensation. So for example, if you buy a rental property and form an LLC to own it, then it can be confiscated by the government at any time for any reason and you have no recourse.

Your LLC will also have no Seventh Amendment rights, and if it’s sued, it will have no right to a jury trial and there will be no protections against double jeopardy.

Moreover, if a corporation is no longer a person, then the argument could be made that that the officers, directors and shareholders are no longer shielded from personal liability for corporate acts.

This is not just an attack on the First Amendment, but the entire Bill of Rights.

RadClown on April 20, 2012 at 10:38 AM

What’s this “we” stuff, hag?

LizardLips on April 20, 2012 at 10:40 AM

In other words, what Pelosi and Leftist Democrats want is a First Amendment that reads “Free speech for me, not for thee.”

WannabeAnglican on April 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM

It’s funny. The democrats always speak glowingly of the Founders when they talk about the 1st amendment. Not a peep on the 2nd, though. Or the 10th. They’re pick-and-choose politicians.

jeffthevoter on April 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM

They have a clear agenda to make criticism of government illegal or seditious. Didn’t anyone read the news about those militia types the DOJ arrested as terrorists a few years back?
A Federal judge has recently thrown the whole case out. But if you read his opinion, it was obvious the Obama administration was making a test case out of them. They were attempting to say that, because members of this militia were making statements against the government.. even though they had no plans to take up arms against the government or commit any crimes or anything… they had weapons and they were making verbal statements about their hatred of the government.. therefore they were a threat. The Federal judge stated that owning weapons and making statements against the government like “I hate blah blah” is not sedition. It is free speech.

People need to take a look at that. Read what Obama was trying to do. They picked these redneck poor trailer park types thinking no one would care a wit about them to attempt this on. If they had succeeded… being critical of the government while also owning a hunting rifle could be considered reason for arrest.

Sorry.. I do not have a link but the story is about 6 weeks old or so. If you search, I am sure you can find it.

JellyToast on April 20, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Doesn’t Pelosi’s family get embarrassed when she gets loaded and stumbles into the public eyem saying things like this? One would think that they’d stage an intervention and get her into rehab.
Or, perhaps they just consider her “funny, old Nancy; and laugh at her antics. In that case, though, one would think they’d keep her locked in the attic until they bring her out to liven up parties.
As a legislator, of course, she’s an embarressment to the country and an abject failure.

Solaratov on April 20, 2012 at 11:29 AM

B. Frank

Please DO.NOT.EVER confuse Ben Franklin with Bwarney Fwank.

askwhatif on April 20, 2012 at 11:40 AM

one would think they’d keep her locked in the attic until they bring her out to liven up parties.

That’s exactly what they do!!

askwhatif on April 20, 2012 at 11:41 AM

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
One Nation, Indivisible, with Liberty, and Justice for all.”

Such a simple phrase.

One has to have read it to understand what’s in it.

Oh, and say it at least five times a week for years…….

Tenwheeler on April 20, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Nanny Pelosi (D-Looney) is, hands down, the dumbest elected official on the planet.

locomotivebreath1901 on April 20, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Here. Here. I second that..

askwhatif on April 20, 2012 at 11:43 AM

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
One Nation, UNDER GOD, Indivisible, with Liberty, and Justice for all.”

Tenwheeler on April 20, 2012 at 11:42 AM

That’s how it was written.

askwhatif on April 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM

That’s how it was written.

askwhatif on April 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Absolutely right. Can’t believe I left it out. I am just so frigging pissed at this idiot and others like her running our country.

Apologies to all.

Tenwheeler on April 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM

It appears that Nancy REALLY does not understand the constitution. The freedom of speech is not so much of a constitutional right that can be changed at will per se as it is a natural right. Natural or divine rights belong to us because we are human.

Oh wait…

Natrium on April 20, 2012 at 11:50 AM

That’s how it was written.

askwhatif on April 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM

The pledge was written in the 1890′s without the words “under god.” They were added in the 1950′s by congressional resolution.

RadClown on April 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Here’s a compromise– let them do this, as long as they agree to ban all unions. All of them.

This will level the playing field. Unions spend far more on political contributions than “corporations” ever did

They’re just pissed because Citizens United leveled the playing field on their rigged game.

thurman on April 20, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Nanny Pelosi (D-Looney) is, hands down, the dumbest elected official on the planet.

locomotivebreath1901 on April 20, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Actually that honor goes to Debbie what’s-her-Wasserman-name.

TerryW on April 20, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Nanny Pelosi (D-Looney) is, hands down, the dumbest elected official on the planet.

locomotivebreath1901 on April 20, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Eau contraire!
Babs Boxer stands ready to arm wrestle her for that prestigious distinction!!!

Seriously, I’d pay good money to see those two go head to head on Jeopardy, “Celebrity Moron” edition.

VelvetElvis on April 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Looks like we need a poll:
Celebrity Moron theme

Nanny Pelosi
Babs Boxer
Debbie what’s-her-Wasserman-name

I vote DWS.

TerryW on April 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Looks like we need a poll:
Celebrity Moron theme

Nanny Pelosi
Babs Boxer
Debbie what’s-her-Wasserman-name

I vote DWS.

TerryW on April 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The three go together kind of like Moe, Curly, and Larry. No disrespect intended to the real three stooges on my part.

Cherokee on April 20, 2012 at 1:54 PM

One of the most positive things I can say about the Democrat Party is that they’ve finally stopped trying to hide what they are and what they intend to do to America. It’s just balls-out gall now.

RebeccaH on April 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Don’t you wish someone would actually do this when she makes these comments?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKf2LBgsuqQ

stormridercx4 on April 20, 2012 at 3:22 AM

That’s the only way in which she’s ever getting the Speaker’s gavel back.

stukinIL4now on April 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Most labor unions are set up as corporations. Does Stretch Pelosi want their political influence restricted also?

Colony14 on April 20, 2012 at 6:55 PM

[S]aid Pelosi. “Our Founders had an idea. It was called democracy.”

No, Nan, that was NOT their idea.

The purpose of the Constitution was to establish a Republic. In fact, the Founders even included a specific language guarantee to ensure, going forward, that each of the States in the United States would have a “Republican Form of Government.”

Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Trochilus on April 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

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