About that CBS/NYT poll …

posted at 10:31 am on April 19, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, I noted the topline results of the CBS/NYT poll, which showed Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in a dead heat — but which didn’t supply the internals of the poll.  Today, CBS follows up on their polling with an interesting and more nuanced look at the gender gap, in which Romney trails badly with single women — but not so much with married women.  In fact, those working and stay-at-home moms give Romney the edge:

One headline out of our poll is the shrinking gender gap. A month ago, President Obama had an 11-point lead over Mitt Romney among women voters. Today’s poll, taken after Hillary Rosen’s comments and the subsequent firestorm, puts the gap at six points.

But as everyone should know (and despite all we hear about the “female” vote), women aren’t some monolithic group. Our poll reveals sharp differences in opinion, for example, between married and single women.

Among MARRIED women, Romney leads Obama 49 to 42 percent. But among SINGLE women, Obama has a huge lead over Romney, 62 to 34 percent.

In another piece of bad news for Obama, the poll shows that Romney has more upside than Obama — which is exactly what you’d expect to find with an incumbent.  More than a third of respondents (37%) don’t know enough about Romney to form an opinion of him, while only 13% say that about Obama. (Really?  After more than three years as President?)  That is why having a dead heat at this stage of the race is such bad news for Team Obama, along with a re-elect number in the mid-40s.  Romney has much more room to improve his standing than Obama does, and that’s why Team Obama has been so desperate to attack Romney on a personal basis.

Finally, though, we did get a look at the sample and its partisan split.  What I can say without reservation is that it’s better than CNN’s triple-facepalm performance in turning a one-point edge among respondents into a weighted twelve-point Obama lead, but that’s damning with faint praise.  Once again, the weighting in the poll (specifically on registered voters) shows a curious sense of modeling which makes this much less predictable than their original respondent composition would have been.

Here is the original D/R/I of the poll, compared with the weighted D/R/I:

  • General population: Original 33/29/38, Weighted 34/30/36
  • Registered voters: Original 34/31/36, Weighted 34/26/40

This isn’t as dramatic as the CNN poll, but it’s still odd.  The weighting on the general-population responses seems unnecessary but harmless.  However, on the RV side, the weighting looks less harmless.  A D+3 sample at 34/31/36 would be a rational predictive model for the upcoming election, somewhere between the 39/32/29 of the 2008 election and the 35/35/30 turnout in the 2010 midterms.  However, the 34/26/40 puts Republicans at a significantly lower level (six points!) than even the nadir of 2008 while extending the Democrat advantage to higher than that election’s D+7, while overstating the impact of independents.  Why choose that model when the original survey’s composition would have sufficed?  Needless to say, that’s the question CBS and the New York Times probably won’t be answering.


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Needless to say, that’s the question CBS and the New York Times probably won’t be answering.

This is a press conference! The last thing we want to do is to answer a bunch of questions!

NoDonkey on April 19, 2012 at 10:34 AM

that’s why Team Obama has been so desperate to attack Romney on a personal basis.

I assumed it was because Obama was such a nice guy.

forest on April 19, 2012 at 10:36 AM

D +8 and it’s still a tie???

WOOF!

Chuck Schick on April 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Skewed polls, skewed news

willardcsmith on April 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Among MARRIED women, Romney leads Obama 49 to 42 percent. But among SINGLE women, Obama has a huge lead over Romney, 62 to 34 percent.

I’m not gonna pretend to know the breakdown of past elections, but single women ALWAYS go heavily toward Democrats. That’s just a political reality, much like the way it is with black voters.

As long as Mittens can do well with married women(and Hilary Rosen’s remarks will certainly help in that department), he’ll be fine.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Needless to say, that’s the question CBS and the New York Times probably won’t be answering.

What answer could there be except that they want to make Obama look good? And they aren’t going to admit that.

Dee2008 on April 19, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Here is the original D/R/I of the poll:
General population: Original 33/29/38, Weighted 34/30/36

Here is forecasted rating in mid-Oct:
98/1/1

hillsoftx on April 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Why choose that model when the original survey’s composition would have sufficed?

The answer to that question is pretty clear.

Plus, according to Dick Morris (yeah, I know, Dick Morris) there’s been a gender gap between Dems and Republicans for decades. And it’s historically been larger than it is now.

We’ll know who’s poll is correct in the fullness of time.

Curtiss on April 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Gender Gap:
Obama leads Romney among women 49-43%
(married women favor Romney over Obama 49-42%)
Romney leads Obama among men 49-43%
W Gap = Obama +6 (swing -7 from 2008)
M Gap = Romney +6 (swing +7 from 2008)
Gap Swing advantage from 2008 to 2012 = Romney +14

mjbrooks3 on April 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM

D +8 and it’s still a tie???

WOOF!

Chuck Schick on April 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

idahoconservative1 on April 19, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Why choose that model when the original survey’s composition would have sufficed?

Because it made THEIR candidate look better.

Don’t look for a credible poll by the MSM.

GarandFan on April 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

President Romney and his team will have to spend a lot of effort to fill the gaps that the “pablik edoukaishn” system left in Civics. I would like to see a huge, easy-to-read educational website where the political principles of federalism and democracy, basics of American political history, and pivotal Supreme Court rulings are laid out. The Left can scream all they can: after Kamrad Obamov and his “Attack Watch”, they lost the right to complain. Even if the GOP eventually loses the White House, I’d triple dog dare the donkeys to shut such a website (and its private mirrors) down.

Archivarix on April 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Here is forecasted rating in mid-Oct:
98/1/1

hillsoftx on April 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM

…and it will still be a tie. I see this thing potentially turning into a Monty Python sketch with the media refusing to admit that it’s more than ‘just a flesh wound’.

Spiders from Mars on April 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

What answer could there be except that they want to make Obama look good? And they aren’t going to admit that.

Dee2008 on April 19, 2012 at 10:41 AM

What I don’t understand is why manipulate in such an obvious way, rather than just lie about the responses?

I think they’re trying their best but they’re just idiots.

bernverdnardo1 on April 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

They just keep chasing their tails.

Electrongod on April 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Don’t look for a credible poll by the MSM.

GarandFan on April 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

It really does amaze me at how “in the tank” they are for this guy. In my business the idea is to make as much money as we can period. The lib “newsies” are going broke because nobody believes their lies anymore. And they just keep on pushing those lies.

VegasRick on April 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Needless to say, that’s the question CBS and the New York Times probably won’t be answering.

America’s Fifth Column Treasonous Media, working hard to make Soviet Pravda the paragon of truth and virtue…

SWalker on April 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Apparently, the single women respondents in this poll were somehow unaware that Obama has treated female staffers very poorly in his administration. His is the consummate ol’ boys government playground. Romney should remind these female voters about how Obama regards women on his staff.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM

I’d love to know the proportion of people who actually pay federal taxes vs. the proportion that doesn’t who are voting for obama. That would be eye opening.

aniptofar on April 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM

So… single women is all that Obama has left.

Wait until they find out that he’s just not that into them.

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 10:55 AM

First Rule of RomneyAir: If a poll comes out that says something you don’t like, the poll must be biased

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Polls by any of the 0bama media are designed to do only one thing, depress conservative enthusiasm. Nothing to see here, move along. All is well.

jukin3 on April 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

The lib “newsies” are going broke because nobody believes their lies anymore. And they just keep on pushing those lies.

VegasRick on April 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

How’s that “truth teller” Glenn Beck doing these days? I heard he has a TV show online or something that nobody watches.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

The weighting is necessary because you can’t effectively poll DEAD voters- who are uniformly Democrats.

michaelo on April 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Why choose that model when the original survey’s composition would have sufficed?

It’s not obvious? They cant run a poll showing Obama losing.

It’s about perception at this point, and perception drives fund-raising and excitement. If you show Obama down now, with the economy tanking again, Democrats wont be excited about the race, wont give money, and as a result, that can lead to a route for Democrats. And that is a nightmare for the NYT and CBS, because they report based on their ideological preferences, not on what the actual news dictates their reporting should be.

milcus on April 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

First Rule of RomneyAir: If a poll comes out that says something you don’t like, the poll must be biased

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

The Broken Record has spoken.

Bitter Clinger on April 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM

They just keep chasing their tails.

Electrongod on April 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

…I was thinking the same thing…but my last word was testies!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:00 AM

As long as Mittens can do well with married women who sit at home all day homeschooling kids about Jesus (and Hilary Rosen’s remarks will certainly help in that department), he’ll be fine.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM

FIFY

But those women are already voting GOP.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

I assumed it was because Obama was such a nice guy.

forest on April 19, 2012 at 10:36 AM

The sad thing is that hardly any of us at hotair think Obama is a nice guy, only Romney thinks so!

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

angryed, why so angry? Tell us your troubles. Is it Obama’s sinking poll numbers? We’re here to help.

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

The Broken Record has spoken.

Bitter Clinger on April 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM

…so let us ALL let it talk to itself!
(I’m trying on the unemployment thread…but we’re dumber than it is!)

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

..while only 13% say that about Obama. (Really? After more than three years as President?)

..can this not truly be the land of the brain dead, mirror-fogging, mouth-breathing American Idol night-of-the-living-dead zombies?

“..back-to-back, belly to belly! Well, I don’t give a damn ‘cuz I done that already..”

The War Planner on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Ed, Allah, can we seriously just ban him already? All this troll does is try and derail every single thread while adding absolutely nothing.

strictnein on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

I guess I never realized your bitterness toward people of faith. I’ll pray for you anyway.

Bitter Clinger on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

I’m not gonna pretend to know the breakdown of past elections, but single women ALWAYS go heavily toward Democrats. That’s just a political reality, much like the way it is with black voters.

As long as Mittens can do well with married women(and Hilary Rosen’s remarks will certainly help in that department), he’ll be fine.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Sounds like a bunch of mindless Sandra Flukes whose only concern is taxpayer funded contraception and abortions.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

…so let us ALL let it talk to itself!
(I’m trying on the unemployment thread…but we’re dumber than it is!)

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Duly noted.

Bitter Clinger on April 19, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Why choose that model when the original survey’s composition would have sufficed?

Well, look at the hammering ABC/WaPo and CNN/ORC took for being so blatant about weighing Dem.

CBS/NYT admitted to themselves things are not breaking Democratic, but they’re also not going Repub, so they loaded the balance into independents.

I’m fine with this, frankly.

It’s an admittance of a jump ball, whereas ABC/CNN were trying to sell Romney had to persuade Obama Dems to not vote, or vote for Mitt. It’s a nice trick, because it puts the minority ideology in the position of societal majority, when poling suggests everything but that.

What CBS/NYT are saying is the proggie movement peaked in ’08 and bottomed out with OWS. Now, people are open to going back to an moderate/HW Bush Republicanism, as long as its not W.

budfox on April 19, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Ed, Allah, can we seriously just ban him already? All this troll does is try and derail every single thread while adding absolutely nothing.

strictnein on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Come on now. We’re not the Left. We don’t need censorship. Either defend your points more constructively or just ignore people you don’t like.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

angryed, why so angry? Tell us your troubles. Is it Obama’s sinking poll numbers? We’re here to help.

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

..ignore him; you’re wasting your time. That fool has long since been deconstructed as a closet Troll.

The War Planner on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

i believe i was the one in the 38 I’s that was weighted to the dems, brining my side (I’s) from 38 to 36, and being placed in the orginal D column (33) making me now part of the FAKE 34D. and i am damn pissed about it. but i now hate rich people, i am demanding a pension at 50, i plan to crap on a cop car at lunch, and i am performing an abortion this afternoon. but even with all those upsides, i am way less happy than i was yesterday. weird.

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM

We are sooooo skewed! (angryed)

Rovin on April 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Sounds like a bunch of mindless Sandra Flukes whose only concern is taxpayer funded contraception and abortions.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Nah, there are a lot of single women who like big government programs because they serve as a substitute for a man until they eventually get married. Particularly if they’re single moms. Now unfortunately that gravy train will be coming to an end soon with nearly $16 trillion in debt, but until then, they’re gonna keep voting Democrat.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM

What I don’t understand is why manipulate in such an obvious way, rather than just lie about the responses?

I think they’re trying their best but they’re just idiots.

bernverdnardo1 on April 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

It would be highly unethical to lie about the responses. I mean majorly unethical. No serious pollster would ever do that. The problem is these guys go into the poll with a bias. And they let their biases influence their assumptions as they build their sample. They may or may not be doing it deliberately…it’s hard to tell. But the end result is the same. Their polls are inaccurate. So over time, poll consumers will learn not to trust what they produce.

Dee2008 on April 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

It’s simple. Single women will not vote for someone who will take away they reproductive rights. I know being 18 and pregnant is cool in some parts of the country. In the evil liberal cities, 18 year old women would prefer not to ruin their lives that way and want to have the opportunity to control when they have children.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

..ignore him; you’re wasting your time. That fool has long since been deconstructed as a closet Troll.

The War Planner on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

ROTFLMAO… That troll is sooooo not in the closet… Hunting for a nice bridge it is…

SWalker on April 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

FIFY

But those women are already voting GOP.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Hey, Mr. Ed. If you want to post nasty remarks, have the stones to do it under your own username. Don’t manipulate my words to try to be cute.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM

ignore him; you’re wasting your time. That fool has long since been deconstructed as a closet Troll.

The War Planner on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

I think we may be on the edge of a breakthrough. He has reached bottom, and seems to be asking for help. We can bring him over from the Dark Side.

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM

But those women are already voting GOP.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

well i dont know ed. i think it was you who pointed out how unacceptable romney was. so a lot of them (marrieds, SAHMs), like you, may have been contemplating NOT voting. at all. see? inclined maybe to vote GOP, but not for romney. but what i think the polls are NOW indicating to us is those that were waivering on romney are now so damn scared of obama they actually WILL pull it for mitt. and the singles may be so depressed from obama fatigue and dissapointment, they WONT pull it for bam. i think you, ed, have showed us the way on this. our side, yours and mine ed, are more ready to vote against obama, than the other side is willing to get out and vote for obama. so its all GOOD news man. we are golden!

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

President Obama holds a thin 46 percent to 42 percent lead over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in a Quinnipiac University national poll released Thursday, even as voters give the Republican a MAJOR edge on such key issues as the economy, jobs and gas prices.

Voters disapprove of Mr. Obama’s handling on the economy by 56 percent to 38 percent.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/19/obama-holds-slight-lead-over-romney-quinnipiac-pol/

Resist We Much on April 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

How’s that “truth teller” Glenn Beck doing these days? I heard he has a TV show online or something that nobody watches.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Really, Ed?

All you wrote during the GOP primary was a parroting of Beck’s talking points. Whenever I called you out on it, you never denied it or derided Beck.

It’s one thing to antagonize by pretending to be a contrarian. But if you’re now going to renounce your original TrueCon positions, then you were always a troll.

…and it’s time to go.

budfox on April 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Somebody needs to tell future female poll respondents that women earn 18% less than men in the Obama administration. This combined with heavy job losses by women and current gas prices during Obama’s term ought to increase Romney’s favorability a bit.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Come on now. We’re not the Left. We don’t need censorship. Either defend your points more constructively or just ignore people you don’t like.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

..that would be fine except he has been transported into non-sequitur-land and keeps throwing out the same tedious ripostes: bad polls are biased and here are some polls that indicate Romney is doomed –> pasting up stuff from back in the midst of the primary-bloodbath.

Oh yes, and his classic: “I know you are, but what am I”

The War Planner on April 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I am sure it is accurate weighting – for the northeast – their market.

A.S.R. on April 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

and want to have the opportunity to control when they have children.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

thats why we and the catholic church all pay for their birth control ed. relax man. those chicks that go to georgetown we all understand certainly cant afford the punishment of a baby.

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

…let it talk to itself!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Really, Ed?

All you wrote during the GOP primary was a parroting of Beck’s talking points. Whenever I called you out on it, you never denied it or derided Beck.

It’s one thing to antagonize by pretending to be a contrarian. But if you’re now going to renounce your original TrueCon positions, then you were always a troll.

…and it’s time to go.

budfox on April 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Are you high? Show me one post where I said anything even close to complimentary of Beck. I mocked Beck because what he says is loonie. I have said if you listen to him and keep in mind that he’s a comedian first, it can be entertaining.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM

It’s simple. Single women will not vote for someone who will take away they reproductive rights.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

What’s simple is that angryed is a troll who could care less about how hostile the Obama administration is for women and that far more women have lost jobs on Obama’s watch than men.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Now taking bets on when angryed goes fully overboard and gets himself banned.

Over/under is June 28. Lay ‘em down, folks.

Red Cloud on April 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

The most telling thing to me is the difference between their general-pop split and their RV split. Almost always, you can put A-RV-LV on a Left-Right continuum, and yet here they want us to beleive that registered voters show a greater skew for the Democrats than adults? What’s next, a poll of likely voters with a D+12 split?

sadarj on April 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

…no! This one is nucking futs…you are doing no such thing…so let it talk to itself!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

So:

1 Polls with realistic samples show Romney up 2-4 points.
2 If those polls with unrealistic samples were unskewed … Romney would be up 2-8 points.
3 Undecideds break heavily toward the challenger.

Therefore, if the election were held today Romney would win comfortably.

Texastoast on April 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

thats why we and the catholic church all pay for their birth control ed. relax man. those chicks that go to georgetown we all understand certainly cant afford the punishment of a baby.

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

It’s not just a financial issue. Some women prefer to have a life in their 20s that doesn’t include changing diapers, whether or not they can afford to raise a baby. And yes, that even means having S-E-X without being married (!!).

Again, if someone in rural Alabama wants to have 3 kids by the time she’s 21, go for it. Have a blast. But when the GOP tries to impose that way of thinking to a 21 year old outside of rural Alabama, she is not going to be impressed, nor will she vote for your party.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

First Rule of RomneyAir: If a poll comes out that says something you don’t like, the poll must be biased
angryed on April 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

What are you babbling about now? A NYT poll that shows a tie with the incumbant in mid April… And it’s D +8???

We LOVE this poll, you dumbass!

Chuck Schick on April 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

So:

1 Polls with realistic samples show Romney up 2-4 points.
2 If those polls with unrealistic samples were unskewed … Romney would be up 2-8 points.
3 Undecideds break heavily toward the challenger.

Therefore, if the election were held today Romney would win comfortably.

Texastoast on April 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Romney has to win beyond the margin of dead democrat voters…

SWalker on April 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

But those women are already voting GOP.
angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Moby.

jawkneemusic on April 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Over/under is June 28. Lay ‘em down, folks.

Red Cloud on April 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I’ll take under for $200, Alex.

VietVet_Dave on April 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

What’s simple is that angryed is a troll who could care less about how hostile the Obama administration is for women and that far more women have lost jobs on Obama’s watch than men.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

What’s worse? Being unemployed for a few months or being stuck with an unwanted child for 18 years?

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Red Cloud on April 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

June 6 – day after Walker is not recalled.

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Are you high? Show me one post where I said anything even close to complimentary of Beck. I mocked Beck because what he says is loonie. I have said if you listen to him and keep in mind that he’s a comedian first, it can be entertaining.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Beck is loonie?

Being right on the economic collapse?

Exposing Van Jones and Acorn?

Exposing Progressives in BOTH parties?

Beck seems to be right on most of the time to me.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Being unemployed for a few months or being stuck with an unwanted child for 18 years?

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Like your mom?

SWalker on April 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Why choose that model when the original survey’s composition would have sufficed?

Because they wanted a headline for Obama? There is another takeaway from this. You have revealed they are working very hard to obscure the manipulation of the data.

Zero must be in serious trouble. Romney hasn’t even gotten started yet.

dogsoldier on April 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

The Broken Record has spoken.

Bitter Clinger on April 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM
…so let us ALL let it talk to itself!
(I’m trying on the unemployment thread…but we’re dumber than it is!)

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

The angry one has already outed himself as a disingenuous lefty troll who presented himself one way during the heat of the GOP primaries and debates, and who now sounds like the reincarnation of crrr6.
Best we not even respond to his pointless posts.

Right Mover on April 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Beck seems to be right on most of the time to me.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Please, for the love of man tell me you forgot the /s

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Why do trolls always self destruct?

Is it because they hear the truth from us, then start going “Does not compute, does not compute” like the Lost in Space robot?

Warning, warning Will Robinson!!!!

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Red Cloud on April 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM
June 6 – day after Walker is not recalled.

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

unless scotus voids PPACA before that, then i go with that date. but thats not a fixed date so i guess it cant count.

t8stlikchkn on April 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

What’s worse? Being unemployed for a few months or being stuck with an unwanted child for 18 years?

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

It’s called personal responsibility. If these women don’t want “the punishment of a baby” then don’t open your legs.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Beck seems to be right on most of the time to me.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Well, to be 100 percent honest, just being right 80 percent of the time doesn’t actually mean you aren’t a bit looney…

SWalker on April 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Therefore, if the election were held today Romney would win comfortably.

Texastoast on April 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

You are correct.

dogsoldier on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM

It’s called personal responsibility. If these women don’t want “the punishment of a baby” then don’t open your legs.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM

And you wonder why single women run away screaming from Republicans.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM

It’s been my experience that most single women, raising children by themselves, do not show up and vote.

They’re ‘crazy busy’ raising kids, juggling work and looking for a new hubby.

But, the cost of gas and groceries is very understandable to them.

If you don’t drill for oil, the price will go up.
They’ll connect the dots to Obama.

The men they date are far poorer as well.

I believe by the end of the summer, they’ll stay home or vote for Romney.

Typicalwhitewoman on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Chuck Schick on April 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

…let it babble to itself! They start drooling after a while.

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM

What’s worse? Being unemployed for a few months or being stuck with an unwanted child for 18 years?

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I don’t know. Why don’t you go ask Casey Anthony? The way you describe the Democrat Party, she must be their poster girl.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM

It’s called personal responsibility. If these women don’t want “the punishment of a baby” then don’t open your legs.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Or…

Have an avenue by which a woman who got pregnant on accident can terminate the pregnancy. Hey wait a minute, that avenue exists.

Or…

Have a way of preventing the pregnancy in the first place by some sort of magic pill. Wait a minute that exists as well.

But that’s too easy. Instead let’s adopt the GOP way of pretending we live in 1951 where nobody had pre-marital sex and every baby born was loved and wanted.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Single gals not sMitten?

Did they poll those with dogs?

LetsBfrank on April 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM

…let it babble to itself! They start drooling after a while.

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM

No no no, first you have to grab them firmly by the ears and shake their head vigorously to get them fully spun up to speed… It’s like poking the bull in the testies while he’s still in the chute to ensure the cowboy gets a real rodeo ride…

SWalker on April 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Obama’s best polling numbers came for the nytimes in 2008. They had him up by much as 15 points. I was pretty shocked to see them tied in the poll, cause you know they are trying to do their best to get Obama ahead.

rubberneck on April 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM

…let it babble to itself! They start drooling after a while.

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM

True.

22044 on April 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I don’t know. Why don’t you go ask Casey Anthony? The way you describe the Democrat Party, she must be their poster girl.

Doughboy on April 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM

She’s actually the poster girl for why abortion should be legal. Why would you force a woman like that to have children when obviously she did not want to be a mother? Serious question. If she were to get pregnant again, would you be opposed to her having an abortion?

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM

nor will she vote for your party.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Here’s all the proof needed. angryed is a Liberal.

What’s worse? Being unemployed for a few months or being stuck with an unwanted child for 18 years?

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

This is beyond inane. The unwanted child we’re stuck with is you.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM

strictnein on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

…let it talk to itself!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Some other interesting poll tidbits:

1. The recent Pew poll shows a radical swing in one month on the part of Catholics nationally. Obama went from a 9 pt lead to a 5 pt deficit, a swing of 14 pts.

2.A veteran pollster from Franklin and Marshall made some interesting comments in an interview yesterday. He said Obama’s poll numbers in PA were weak and the GOP could very well win PA in 2012.

3. A Mason-Dixon poll in CO recently measured Obama’s approval in that state. It’s at 45%–a dangerously low percentage in an important swing state.

So far so good. I’m particularly curious about the Catholic vote since the bishops have promised a major campaign this summer to focus on government sponsored attacks on religious freedom. This is bound to impact the Hispanic vote as well as the large Catholic vote in some of the most important swing states, including OH, PA and FL.

There’s also this: Romney does well in the suburbs–and it’s the Philadelphia suburbs that will ultimately determine how PA swings. The state is otherwise divided between Philadelphi-Pittsburgh Democrats and the rest of the state which is conservative. These Philly suburban swing districts matter. In 2010 they helped elect a Republican governor and senator.

writeblock on April 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Here’s all the proof needed. angryed is a Liberal.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Pssst..Republican != conservative. I know Rush and Sean say it does. It doesn’t.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM

strictnein on April 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

please let it talk to itself…they get crazier!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Come on now. We’re not the Left. We don’t need censorship. Either defend your points more constructively or just ignore people you don’t like.

LevinFan on April 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Lefties are perfectly welcome here when they actually want to discuss things. There isn’t a point to be defended. But he’s a troll and his only purpose now is to derail discussion with inane nonsense. Or am I supposed to defend against him stating that the stay-at-home moms who support Romney all home-school their kids and teach them about nothing but Jesus? Where’s the discussion supposed to begin?

It’s annoying when 100% of the discussion of any polling results on this site are now based around his inane tirades and him just copy-pasting the same “1st Rule of Romenyair” thing in every thread.

strictnein on April 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM

budfox on April 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

please let it talk to itself!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:30 AM

…for once…we can abort!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:36 AM

please let it talk to itself!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Come on Kool. Sometimes it’s fun to poke a rabid dog just to see the spittle fly.

faraway on April 19, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Pssst..Republican != conservative. I know Rush and Sean say it does. It doesn’t.

angryed on April 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Pssst… You’re not even a moderate Repub. Your silly rants smack of nothing less than Liberal.

Slainte on April 19, 2012 at 11:38 AM

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