Army investigating U.S. troops who posed for photos with corpses of Afghan jihadis

posted at 8:19 pm on April 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

The LA Times published the photos this morning and the obligatory Obama briefing and denunciations by the White House and Pentagon duly occurred this afternoon. I remember a college friend of mine whose brother was in the military at the time telling me how he and his buddies posed for photos with the bodies of dead Panamanians during the U.S. invasion to get Noriega. He told me it was their way of dealing with the stress of combat; by making a lethal situation seem absurd, it became easier to cope with the reality of killing other human beings. Which is not to excuse it: Trophy photos are a dumb thing to do, especially in an age of mass media and ubiquitous cameras, because you’re potentially creating the enemy’s propaganda for them. That’s why, I assume, you rarely see stuff like this surface. Most troops have the good sense either not to do it, however tempting it might be, or to keep a tight lid on the photos lest they circulate. Alex Massie makes the same points at Britain’s Spectator:

This is what war does to men at arms. As Toby Harnden tweeted, most reporters who have spent extended periods of time in Iraq or Afghanistan will have seen or heard of the existence, or rumoured existence, of these kinds of “trophy” photographs. War is a gruesome business at the best of times but this kind of behaviour is scarcely unusual. Quite the contrary: soldiers have posed to be pictured with their dead enemies for as long as cameras have existed; for that matter, they have taken trphies or trinkets or even body parts for as long as men have been engaged in the fighting business.

Again, this is not something people care to dwell upon but the mystery is not that soldiers in the field sometimes behave in ways that might upset those left at home but that this does not actually happen more often. (Indeed, I suspect it happens less now than at any previous point in human history.)

He’s responding to Andrew Sullivan, who predictably seized on the photos as an indictment of “empire” or whatever. So — why publish the photos as “newsworthy” if they reflect an unfortunate yet traditional practice in war? Well, after the Koran-burning and ensuing fraggings and riots, the alleged rampage by Sgt. Bales, and the previous uproar over Marines posing with Taliban corpses, it’s arguably part of the “things are going to hell in Afghanistan” narrative — although, as it turns out, these new pics are two years old. Beyond that, though, it might be evidence of a breakdown in discipline within the specific brigade (4th brigade, 82nd Airborne) of the anonymous soldier who gave the pictures to the LAT. Danger Room points to two apparently unrelated scandals involving the 4th brigade kinda sorta around the time these pictures might have been taken, which may or may not suggest a broader slackening in overall discipline. If so, it would have been nice if the LAT had connected the dots to put this in context. Then again, it’s awfully easy to link trophy photos to any other internal problem a brigade might be having, however disconnected, and cite the two as evidence of a broader breakdown in discipline. If I’m right in thinking that this sort of thing goes on more often we think (although not nearly as often as it might), then it’s probably also happening in brigades that are otherwise squeaky clean.

Here’s Ralph Peters laying into the White House and Pentagon for overreacting to a regrettable but not unusual aspect of war. Exit quotation: “If our strategy and doctrine is so pathetically weak that it can be derailed, destroyed, shattered by a few burning Korans or a few photographs — the dead body parts of terrorists — well that’s not much of a strategy or a doctrine.”



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They should have spent the time making new shattered corpses from Taliban terrorists, but this is yet another nothingburger.

Rebar on April 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM

What other two year old distractions do the media have in their possession and should we expect a slow and methodical roll out of “shiny objects” between now and Nov?

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katy on April 18, 2012 at 8:26 PM

My father’s friend served in Vietnam in 1964 and 65 with the Marines. After a terrifying ambush, they returned to base with one of their kills. He put the dead VC underneath a Christmas tree that had been put up by their lieutenant. All his fellow soldiers laughed felt better.

The next morning, the lieutenant reamed him out for what he did, and told him he was going to be brought before a Colonel so that he could be punished for the prank. He was, and the Colonel asked my father’s friend for his side of the story. He replied “We were ambushed, and we got one VC, and when we got back, I put the body under the Christmas tree to cheer my guys up. They thought it was funny.”

The Colonel looked at the lieutenant and said “I think it’s funny, too. That’s the best Christmas present I could ask for. I want you to apologize to the sergeant here.”

War is hell. That’s not hyperbole, nor a cliche. The people involved could die any minute. They celebrated the fact that the other guy is dead, instead of themselves. Get over it.

MadisonConservative on April 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

So LA Times, when will you release the tape of Hussein humming allahuakbar among his friends ?

burrata on April 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

So let me see, these were blowed up bits of suicide bombers? So bacon is in order.

tarpon on April 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

trophies

They didn’t kill them a**hole

faraway on April 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Go, Peters, go! Damn straight, you are!

TXUS on April 18, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Newspaper surprised to learn that war involves dead people… news at eleven.

chimney sweep on April 18, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Why are Americans with uniforms so fond of their pictures being taken ?

burrata on April 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Go kill ‘em. We don’t want to know about it tho.

Cleombrotus on April 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Gotta get those images out there, LA Times. The Obama and Rashid Khalidi video, I mean.

Christien on April 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Let’s keep things in perspective. The bombers blew THEMSELVES UP.

Picture of the Day: A Pulitzer Reminder of A “Man-Made Disaster”

Resist We Much on April 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Want credit for Bin Laden? Fine. Take credit for this, too.

rogerb on April 18, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Well, if the Army investigates like the House investigates, the troops can just ignore the whole thing.

PersonFromPorlock on April 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Don’t care

The Notorious G.O.P on April 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM

They didn’t kill them a**hole

faraway on April 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Think AP cares about that? It is a chance for him to rip on the military.

The Notorious G.O.P on April 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Is the LA Times sure that they weren’t making a PSA to dissuade doofus Moozlims from playing terrorist? It looks to me like they were showing the results of strapping a bomb on yourself.

In America, this would have aired on Jackass TV with the caption “don’t try this at home”

platypus on April 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM

well at least no dogs were put in pet carriers on the roofs of any vehicles…

meanwhile in mexico, pyramids of the heads of innocent civilians murdered by other civilians who are drug lords garners little attention.

and in america individuals scurry to obtain the most gruesome crime photos- in order to publish and broadcast them for purposes of entertainment. along with collecting random and expensive memorabilia for the likes of serial killers.. all eliciting no colorful or scornful commentary.

mittens on April 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The LA Times felt obliged to publish these pictures with a story, for the sake of journalism.

The video tapes of little Bammie at a meeting with former PLO operative Rashid Khalidi at a jew-bashing ceremony dinner however remain in the LA Times vaults. I guess they are not ‘newsworthy’.

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM

This is what war does to men at arms. As Toby Harnden tweeted, most reporters who have spent extended periods of time in Iraq or Afghanistan will have seen or heard of the existence, or rumoured existence, of these kinds of “trophy” photographs.
==================================================

And this also ocurred,in WW2,so um……what is the
over-all point!!!!!

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

What other two year old distractions do the media have in their possession and should we expect a slow and methodical roll out of “shiny objects” between now and Nov?

/

katy on April 18, 2012 at 8:26 PM

I just hope George Bush is shredding the shreds in Crawford, TX. Expect them the dig up something on ol’ George.

SouthernGent on April 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

The LA Times published the photos this morning and the obligatory Obama briefing and denunciations by the White House and Pentagon duly occurred this afternoon

Gotta love this adminstration when it comes to supporting the troops.

They tell us not to jump to conclusions about the motives of Maj. Hasan as he guns down a score of soldiers at Fort Hood while screaming Allah Akbar (Obama was actually giving “shout outs” before ever speaking about these deaths in the speech he gave mere hours after the fact).

They have decided that military retirees need to foot more of the bill for their healthcare even though the promise when these individuals signed up is that healthcare for life was one of the benefits for not getting a great salary.

They quickly denounce the burning of Korans which were used by terrorists to communicate and at the same time announce sensitivity training for all those troops in a combat zone.

They don’t even bother with investigations over this issue.

In the meantime we also learn the SecDef has blown through close to $1M on taxpayer funded private trips to California because his wife hates DC and he hates being in DC on the weekends. This at a time when the USAF is changing flight profiles to save on fuel costs, ships have less steaming time, and we still have ongoing combat operations. Leon Panetta is a selfish bastard who needs to be fired if he doesn’t want to live in DC. There I’ve said it. No good comes from putting a politician in charge of DoD instead of somebody with real credentials to do the job.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

What about the BHO and Rashid Khalidi tape? Shouldn’t LAT release that as well..?

d1carter on April 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I’m not freaked out by this but it does show poor discipline and, as it is a violation of military code, it should be investigated and dealt with accordingly.

lexhamfox on April 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

And some Jihady poisoned the water-well,a few days ago in Afghanistan,at a womens school,luckily,no one died,and
so what is the uproar on said photos again!!

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Panetta says of these fine troops, “It’s not who we are.” No you, sir, are not who they are. They don’t spend 32,000 taxpayer dollars every weekend to come home to see their families, to the tune of about $1.7 million a year, since you see your family every effing weekend.

The drivers of their “cars” don’t wear effing ties and nice, dark suits, nor do they say when they climb into their “cars”, “Your looking really sharp today, Mr. Secretary, the coffee’s hot and the croissants are nice and warm, let me know if I can get you anything else.”

Live one f*cking day in their boots, on the ground and among the filth and carnage they see every day, Panetta, and then you tell me “It’s not who we are”, you elite no good mother f*cker!

TXUS on April 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Obama should be frog-marched out of office over this.

/honest liberal, if such a thing existed

malclave on April 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

a slap on the wrists of these troops is all that is warranted..wasn’t a wise thing for them to do but it surely isn’t criminal..it doesn’t deserve any harsh punishment

Ralph Peters is right on the money with this

sadsushi on April 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

So the Left Coast Pravda published photos in an attempt to embarrass American soldiers? Gee, how original.

n0doz on April 18, 2012 at 8:46 PM

SouthernGent on April 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

In Obamaland, they don’t need to dig or find anything. This is GW’s war and GW’s fault. It’s coming.

katy on April 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM

This is what war does to men at arms. As Toby Harnden tweeted, most reporters who have spent extended periods of time in Iraq or Afghanistan will have seen or heard of the existence, or rumoured existence, of these kinds of “trophy” photographs.

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

I would make a slighty different point.

The American military has never been designed to engage in prolonged combat operations which now have lasted just over a decade. I know that these “trophy” photographs are not unique to this conflict even though I do not understand them- my military career was relatively combat-free so I don’t know how I would feel if I was part of a unit who took significant losses. But, Obama only cares about the PR behind such stories and doesn’t give a damn about the troops.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM

TXUS on April 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Thank you, TXUS. Well said.

IrishEi on April 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM

From AP’s Linky:

U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers

An American soldier says he released the photos to the Los Angeles Times to draw attention to the safety risk of a breakdown in leadership and discipline. The Army has started a criminal investigation.
==================

Lets weigh the two,on outrage of pictures,against
Military members who have been killed,blinded,loss
of limbs,and maimed for the rest of their lives!!

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year

U.S. Fatalities in and around Afghanistan

IED Fatalities

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year and Month

Fatalities By Country

Fatalities by Province
========================

Operation Enduring Freedom
**************************

http://icasualties.org/oef/

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Live one f*cking day in their boots, on the ground and among the filth and carnage they see every day, Panetta, and then you tell me “It’s not who we are”, you elite no good mother f*cker!

TXUS on April 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

TXUS:Amen on that,THE PROUD,THE BRAVE,THE FEW!:)

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Walk in their combat boots, and then judge.

Hening on April 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

War is not peaceful and politically correct. It is not humane. It does occur. Incidents of this nature have always occurred. It may well be in violation of many Military rules, laws and guidelines. It will still occur. War is hard. War is hard on the folks who fight it. I can hold no animosity towards our men and women over this. It is the nature of War. I am sad. Sad to have to ask this thing of our fellow countrymen. Happy they serve. Sad that they must.

Bmore on April 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

by making a lethal situation seem absurd, it became easier to cope with the reality of killing other human beings.

that’s the root of dark humor, er… gallows humor if you will. Unless you know what the deal is, you really can’t understand it well.

ted c on April 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I’m not freaked out by this but it does show poor discipline and, as it is a violation of military code, it should be investigated and dealt with accordingly.

lexhamfox on April 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Strictly as a matter of curiosity, how do you come to the conclusions you make without knowing the facts? I’m in 98% agreement with you so please don’t respond in puffed up indignation. But please also remember the Haditha Marines who Jack Murtha convicted in the press before any investigation. There is a process for this stuff and we have scant few facts at this point. We can agree on a violation of standing orders (I’m not sure what part of US Military Code applies but, frankly, this isn’t something I’ve spent a lot of time looking at). I’m unwilling at this point to call it poor discipline because that would involve knowing more about the circumstances. Abu Grahib was a textbook example of poor discipline but we only know that after investigation.

I guess what I am really getting down to is the swiftness that the Ivy-League educated spokesman for an Ivy-League President condemns the military even though neither he nor his boss have served in uniform and (most likely) have a loathing for the troops.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM

According to the MSM, the American military didn’t become “baby-killers” until Vietnam and “torturers” until Bush. They are so naive and ignorant. Most of us know that war is hell and people do things in such circumstances that they would probably never do in their normal lives. The MSM just acts like it is so unusual because you rarely read a sentence like this “Americans liberated the Dachau death camp, a handful of GIs lined up scores of German guards and simply machine-gunned them” in the American media or a story like this:

The Year Of Vengeance: How Neighbours Turned On Each Other As Anarchy Erupted In Europe In Aftermath Of WWII

I don’t think many would look back and praise the behaviour after the war, but they do understand it.*

* I could be wrong. After all of these years and all of these bailouts to keep the EU together, the idiots in Brussels are now fighting over a European history museum. Because they couldn’t agree to “what happened in World War II” (no kidding), the apparatchiks in the European Politburo have decided to start European history in 1946.

Resist We Much on April 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

So LA Times, when will you release the tape of Hussein humming allahuakbar among his friends ?

burrata on April 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Game-set-match………..Race: the ultimate in naked cloaking, In your face sucka!

dmann on April 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

and the previous uproar over Marines posing with Taliban corpses, it’s arguably part of the “things are going to hell in Afghanistan” narrative — although, as it turns out, these new pics are two years old.

Allah, does it strike you as curious that this story, albeit two years old, and the SS story happen to hit nearly simultaneously? I mean, if I were a cynic, I would have to think that the timing is er….curious. Both are stories in their own right, and both involve members of institutions that Americans trust deeply? Is there any effort here to erode the trust of both the Secret Service and the military???

the cynic in me says there may be.

ted c on April 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I’m not freaked out by this but it does show poor discipline and, as it is a violation of military code, it should be investigated and dealt with accordingly.

lexhamfox on April 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

What were they doing in the first place – what is it a photo of? A suicide bomber blew him self up – were they there to clean the mess up?

Who is holding up the parts in the photo?

Do you suppose it is culturally sensitive that the Afghans are holding the parts?

Dr Evil on April 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

The Clinton BimBo Eruptus NeverEndus DisTractionary
2012 DejaVu sumpin sumpin!!
(sarc)

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Liberals sleep secure in their beds because better and rougher men than they stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Bevan on April 18, 2012 at 9:12 PM

If you take such photos, keep them to yourselves for 20 years, then they’ll be considered “History” and not political fodder, idiots.

profitsbeard on April 18, 2012 at 9:12 PM

I DON’T CARE!!!! All is fair in love and war. I’m sure stuff went on during other wars that had to “develop” film and the US never saw the pics…The Afghanis should’ve been nuked on Sept. 12, 2001. And to copy from a popular blogger, “no one ever listens to me”. And we see what has happened. Worthless place, Afghanistan.

Madmill on April 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Eradicate the poppy and hoist anchor.

dmann on April 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Btw,this is how you take pictures,ahem,properly!!
(sarc)

A-10 WARTHOG KILLS 5 TALIBAN FIGHTERS WITH 30MM CANNON
April 18 2012
******************************************************

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a2b_1334785547

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Oh give me an ever-loving break. People play gorn-filled video games, watch “1000 Ways To Die”, and read Steven King books all the livelong day…

But a dead poor brown person is too much for our delicate sensibilities?

MelonCollie on April 18, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Panetta:

“Hey, I was on my plane flying home for the weekend when this happened…its not my fault”

BobMbx on April 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I do not understand them- my military career was relatively combat-free so I don’t know how I would feel if I was part of a unit who took significant losses. But, Obama only cares about the PR behind such stories and doesn’t give a damn about the troops.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Happy Nomand:I Thank-You for your Service,and I agree,Obama doesn’t
give a rats *ss,especially when the Seals were charged
for assault,when they roughed up the Jihady a few year
s ago!!:)

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I heard the LA Times got the photo’s from a former soldier. WTF? Doe anyone know if this is true?

megthered on April 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

SO ?

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

It’s strange the way we treat soldiers. We ask them to kill for us, but we berate them if they don’t hate their it with enough gusto.

Esthier on April 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM

I heard the LA Times got the photo’s from a former soldier. WTF? Doe anyone know if this is true?

megthered on April 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

It’s been reported they came from a member of the 82nd air born, and that there are 18 photos altogether.

Dr Evil on April 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Hey look over there.
The media will dig far enough back to the Vietnam atrocities to distract from the fail that is in in office.

The October surprise will be new technology that found what was on the 18 missing minutes of the Nixon tapes and the whole real watergate will be front and center. Just to ditract from the mess and it will last until Christmas and then be to late.

tjexcite on April 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I heard the LA Times got the photo’s from a former soldier. WTF? Doe anyone know if this is true?

megthered on April 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I wouldn’t be too surprised…likely what happened is someone shared the photos with his buddy, and they got passed on until they reached someone else. Unfortunately, that someone else did exactly the worst possible thing: hand them to a civilian reporter.

Members of the armed forces, for your own protection, PLEASE:

Do NOT put these kinds of photos in a civilian’s hands. We are, on the average, pretty lousy at keeping secrets.
Do NOT flash them around to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Chances are that someone will eventually blab to the wrong set of ears.
Do NOT admit to having them or knowing someone who does if a reporter asks you.

MelonCollie on April 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM

He’s responding to Andrew Sullivan, who predictably seized on the photos as an indictment of “empire” or whatever.

Andrew Sullivan is aware that we are pouring 178 Billion “American Tax Payer Dollars” a year into a country that’s GDP is 17.9 billion with a population of 30 million….their main export is their poppy crop.

If we are “empire” building in Afghanistan with around 100,000.00 troops to “Rule” 30 Million people made up of disparate tribes, that are cobbled together to make up Afghanistan. We really are not very good imperialist, we are not taking anything out of Afghanistan, we are only pouring blood and treasure in….but Andrew Sullivan the surveyor of Sarah Palin’s womb must know better or whatever.

On the other hand our friends the Communist Chinese are helping themselves to Afghanistan’s natural resources….but I am sure the voices inside Andrew Sullivan’s head, have another name for the Communist Chinese…..like I don’t know, Role Models.

Dr Evil on April 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Two of my favorites, both Apache kills, enjoy the show.

smart dog
you can’t hide

dmann on April 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Happy Nomand:I Thank-You for your Service,and I agree,Obama doesn’t
give a rats *ss,especially when the Seals were charged
for assault,when they roughed up the Jihady a few year
s ago!!:)

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I appreciate your thanks but never know how to respond. Yes, I served for 23 years BUT I was at the local mall last weekend and met a soldier who lost both legs in Afghanistan in 2009. My service to the nation seems inadequate for thanks in comparison to
that!

Obama, Panetta, and the Joint Chiefs of staff treated this issue as a public relations problem. And that isn’t all to the wrong. The DoD needed to be in the front of this story. What they didn’t have to do is make the statements they did. It would have sufficed for them to say they were investigating.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM

What is the matter with this wimpy administration – worried about offending the tender sensitivities of our vicious enemies? These are soldiers in war, not girl scouts. What is this “this is not who we are” crap? Under the circumstances I don’t think it should bother anyone if they were photographed feeding the body parts to hungry stray dogs. This IMO would be more like the kind of warriors we should have, not the sensitive gentlemen Panetta would prefer.

Chessplayer on April 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Under the circumstances I don’t think it should bother anyone if they were photographed feeding the body parts to hungry stray dogs.

Chessplayer on April 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

I have more pity for a stray dog, half-starved and abused by everyone from goat-herding peasants on up, than I do for the terrorists. Can you remember the last time a dog blew up a girls’ school or strapped a bomb to a brainwashed teenager?

MelonCollie on April 18, 2012 at 10:06 PM

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM
————————————-

I appreciate your thanks but never know how to respond. Yes, I served for 23 years BUT I was at the local mall last weekend and met a soldier who lost both legs in Afghanistan in 2009. My service to the nation seems inadequate for thanks in comparison to
that!

Obama, Panetta, and the Joint Chiefs of staff treated this issue as a public relations problem. And that isn’t all to the wrong. The DoD needed to be in the front of this story. What they didn’t have to do is make the statements they did. It would have sufficed for them to say they were investigating.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Happy Nomad:Yes I agree with you,the Left is always concerned about
the PR,and how it reflects against their Administration
always willing to throw the US Servicemen/women under
the bus,and on the loss of limbs,thats why I posted the
Enduring Freedom info above,so that while the pictures
might look bad,the info facts can speak for themselves
!—————:)

Happy Nomand

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:15 PM
————————————–

Two of my favorites, both Apache kills, enjoy the show.

smart dog
you can’t hide

dmann on April 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

dmann:Thanks,I do love Military Pron:)

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Okay this is the picture I want to see because everyone of those Hellspawn jihadists devils will think twice about attacking our troops. I want to see about 20 or so of these vermin buried upside down facing West up to their ankles in pig fat. It should include a sign in whatever language these drooling morons understand that says “This could be you” . And that is how you conduct a war to win.

HatfieldMcCoy on April 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

What would they do for a string of ears? Melt down?
Who did they write up when innocent civilians were beheaded on tape?

We’re being led by pussies.

Speakup on April 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM

War is hell. That’s not hyperbole, nor a cliche. The people involved could die any minute. They celebrated the fact that the other guy is dead, instead of themselves. Get over it.

MadisonConservative on April 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Exactly, just like when people got upset about those Iraqis who celebrated the deaths of those Blackwater mercenaries. Nothing wrong with that at all!

People are sooooo sensitive. They need to stfu and get over it.

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Btw,this is how you take pictures,ahem,properly!!
(sarc)

A-10 WARTHOG KILLS 5 TALIBAN FIGHTERS WITH 30MM CANNON
April 18 2012
******************************************************

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a2b_1334785547

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:15 PM

YEAAAAAHHH, AWESOME!

Great video, guy! Have you seen this one?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8302187367555388286#

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Trophy photos are a dumb thing to do, especially in an age of mass media and ubiquitous cameras, because you’re potentially creating the enemy’s propaganda for them.

Yeah. Not that the enemy need concern themselves with such decencies.

Or you know what? Maybe the Mass Media can go flog itself, eh?

minnesoter on April 19, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Only Obama is permitted to brag about his killing.

GaltBlvnAtty on April 19, 2012 at 1:52 AM

canopfor on April 18, 2012 at 9:15 PM
YEAAAAAHHH, AWESOME!

Great video, guy! Have you seen this one?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8302187367555388286#

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 12:21 AM

bileduct:

NICE TRY,and PLEASE,DO NOT POST JIHADY SNIPER VIDEO OF
KILLING AMERICAN TROOPS EVER AGAIN,TO ME!

I DO NOT WATCH BEHEADINGS OR JIHADY VIDEOS!!

I will refrain what I think about you,and NO DOUBT
YOUR AN ANTI_WAR TYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on April 19, 2012 at 2:08 AM

canopfor on April 19, 2012 at 2:08 AM

What’s the problem?

You posted a video of people being killed in war, so I posted a video of people being killed in war, in a thread about war trophies.

Why are you so offended? I was not offended by your video. The content was quite similar, yes? People being gunned down by an unseen attacker.

What’s the big deal?

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 2:55 AM

Under the circumstances I don’t think it should bother anyone if they were photographed feeding the body parts to hungry stray dogs. This IMO would be more like the kind of warriors we should have, not the sensitive gentlemen Panetta would prefer.

Chessplayer on April 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Honestly, after all the revelations this week, I even kind of feel like the dogs deserve a little payback.

RINO in Name Only on April 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM

What’s the problem?

You posted a video of people being killed in war, so I posted a video of people being killed in war, in a thread about war trophies.

Why are you so offended? I was not offended by your video. The content was quite similar, yes? People being gunned down by an unseen attacker.

What’s the big deal?

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 2:55 AM

I guess it’s no big deal at all, if your such a sh*tty person that you place equal value on the lives of thugs and assassins who think nothing of killing their own people, to say nothing of ours, as on the lives of people who, despite any failings they might have, are trying to kill said thugs.

RINO in Name Only on April 19, 2012 at 4:59 AM

I have less than zero sympathy for those who blow themselves up to blow others up.

I have a lot of sympathy for our people over there being exposed to suicide kamikazes and traitorous murderous “allies” on a daily basis.

That’s it.

Sherman1864 on April 19, 2012 at 5:39 AM

“It’s a big effin deal.” — Joey the Clown.

NOT.

BigAlSouth on April 19, 2012 at 6:10 AM

I just hope George Bush is shredding the shreds in Crawford, TX. Expect them the dig up something on ol’ George.

SouthernGent on April 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Almost twice as many casualties in Afghanistan in 3 years of Obama than 8 years of Bush.

Bevan on April 19, 2012 at 7:58 AM

I could…not…care…less. Well, actually, that’s not true. I could, for the ‘Taliban insurgent’. I could care a WHOLE lot less about this bottom feeding maggots whose only desire is to return to the imposition of a murderous and hateful tyranny on the people in the region. These bottom feeding maggots are not fighting for freedom, for humanity or even for religion. They’re fighting for tyranny. Period. End of story. They aren’t a part of an Army. They’re sh!t stinking thugs who owe their allegance to no people, not even the Afghan people.

Kill them, dismember them, have your picture taken with them, I don’t care. In fact, I encourage you to do so. Maybe the rest of their cave monkey friends will see what happens when a murderous psychopath meets a U.S. Marine…or a Ranger.

Sic ‘em boys! And send more pictures home!

PorchDawg on April 19, 2012 at 9:17 AM

War is hell. That’s not hyperbole, nor a cliche. The people involved could die any minute. They celebrated the fact that the other guy is dead, instead of themselves. Get over it.

MadisonConservative on April 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Like the old saying; “Kill them all and let God sort them out!” This is a nothing-burger. I’ll take a dead pissed-on jihadi over a dead American soldier any day. If these animals won’t play by Geneva rules, then they don’t deserve Geneva protocols when shot down like mangy dogs. I just don’t care.

AH_C on April 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM

The only problem I have with it is that one guy in the pic had his eye shut. REDO!!!

Minnfidel on April 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM

First, the newsies mostly look very hard for any possible scandal. That’s all they know how to report, and only if it has political impact; i.e. it helps liberals and hurts conservatives.

When the political leadership wants our military to avoid doing anything that might hurt the feelings of those trying to kill us, I tend to get a little confused.

dahni on April 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM

How do they know the Soldiers posed for the pictures? Maybe they were caught moving the body.

mixplix on April 19, 2012 at 5:52 PM

If these animals won’t play by Geneva rules, then they don’t deserve Geneva protocols when shot down like mangy dogs.

AH_C on April 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Not sure why you are bringing secret prisons, waterboarding and craftily classifying resistance members in a country you invaded as “unlawful combatants” to avoid any legal responsibility into this.

Why do you hate the US military so much?

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Muslim faith-THE RELIGION OF PIECES!

MaiDee on April 19, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Hear what Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters and Lt. General Tom McInerney have to say about this nonsense.

Chessplayer on April 20, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Not sure why you are bringing secret prisons, waterboarding and craftily classifying resistance members in a country you invaded as “unlawful combatants” to avoid any legal responsibility into this.

Why do you hate the US military so much?

bileduct on April 19, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Another one that doesn’t understand Geneva.

Geneva refers to uniformed combat and civilians in the warzone. Jihadis are neither and thus have no protections, until they start living by the code. Nations have always been free to deal with saboteurs and terrorists any which way they deem suitable — i.e saboteurs caught in the act shot on the spot w/o trial.

AH_C on April 20, 2012 at 1:58 PM