Walker up 5-12 points in PPP/DKos poll

posted at 10:26 am on April 17, 2012 by Steve Eggleston

The Government Accountability Board will meet at 9 am tomorrow to set the ballot for all six recall elections (for governor, lieutenant governor and four state Senate seats). The staff has recommended that the Board reject the Democrat Party of Wisconsin’s attempt to toss the 6 “protest candidates” the Republican Party of Wisconsin recruited to run as “Democrats” to ensure all 6 recall elections have a May 8 primary and a June 5 general election. From the GAB staff’s analysis (notably completed before the GAB received the RPW response):

Based upon the public statements of the RPW and the protest candidates, as well as literature they have distributed, there is no material dispute regarding the facts related to the challenges, or that the intent of the RPW and the protest candidates is to require all recall elections to take place on June 5, 2012, presumably to benefit the campaigns of the Republican incumbents. The legal dispute is whether Wisconsin Statutes prohibit or penalize such tactics by disqualifying those candidates from having their names included on the election ballot.

In general, Wisconsin election laws do not require an individual to be a member of a political party to seek that party’s nomination in a primary election. The law also does not permit the Board to inquire into the motivations for an individual’s candidacy for office, an exercise which would inevitably lead to the Board, as a government agency, making subjective judements regarding the legitimacy of political candidacies, which would implicate the most protected forms of First Amendments rights of freedom of speech and association. Depending upon one’s political perspective, the statements and actions of the protest candidates may be viewed as justified, clever, micshievous, or misleading. But Board staff cannot determine that they are illegal. They are products of political calculation and decision-making, and as such they can be rewarded or rejected during the course of the campaigns and elections. The purpose of elections is for voters to pass judgement on the ideas and positions of the candidates as they are debated in the crucible of the campaign.

As further outlined below, Board staff concludes that Wisconsin law does not permit the Board to deny ballot access to the protest candidates.

The Board staff went on to explain that neither the existence of an entry line for a political party on the Campaign Registration Statement form nor the existence of same on the Declaration of Candidacy form is required by state statute. Indeed, the staff concluded that portion of the memo thusly:

As stated above, nominees who claim to represent a political party are determined by the candidates and their supporters, not by party officials or government filing officers. Candidates seeking to participate in a primary of one of the parties are not required to prove that they are members of that party or that they have the support of party members or leadership. A candidate may certainly, without interference from the government, be nominated and campaign as a candidate of a party while disavowing any of hte official or stated positions of the party, or may change their stated positions between the time of circulating nomination papers and the election, or even after their election. For these reasons, Board staff believes that the protest candidates have substantially complied with the requirement to complete and file a declaration of candidacy, and the Board does not have the authority to look beyond the document to judge the political motivation or strategy of a candidacy.

Further, the staff held that the nomination papers do not include any requirement that the candidate claim to “have or demonstrate any formal tie to or membership in the political party” listed on the paper, that neither the circulators nor the signers are required to agree with the positions or principles of the named political party, and that no evidence was presented of any individual signer of the nomination papers were “misled” into signing the nomination papers of the protest candidates, much less a sufficient number to knock any of them off the ballot.

Related to that, semi-pro union protestor Arthur Kohl-Riggs will (likely) appear on the Republican governor primary ballot against Scott Walker as he gathered enough nomination signatures. In a normal partisan primary election, participating in the Republican governor primary would prohibit one from voting for Democrats elsewhere on the primary ballot. While that is still true in the governor recall primary cycle (e.g., one cannot vote for both Scott Walker and Kathleen Falk), GAB spokesman Reid Magney has confirmed that since these recall elections are separate entities, one can vote in the Republican governor recall primary and in the Democratic lieutenant governor recall primary and (if in one of the 4 Senate districts where there is a recall), that Democratic recall primary.

One more item of note – a Public Policy Polling poll for DailyKos has Walker upby between 5 percentage points (against Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett), 7 points (against former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk) and 12 points (against state Senator Kathleen Vinehout) among likely voters, reaching at least 50% against all 4 Democrats. In the same poll, Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch is up 46%-40% on Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin president Mahlon Mitchell. The partisan split of that poll was 37% independent, 32% Republican and 31% Democrat, which roughly mirrors recent Rasmussen Reports likely-voter partisan splits in Wisconsin.

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Minor point of order – Rasmussen keeps its crosstabs behind a paywall (full disclosure – I do pay for access), but they are available.

Steve Eggleston on April 17, 2012 at 12:41 PM

nothing wrong with that (or unusual)…go to any reputable medical journals online, for instance and it’s the same story…you’ll only have access to the abstracts of their articles and trial studies, but you have to pay (symbolic amounts) to download the whole article/study…

jimver on April 17, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Right because 4 more years of Obama will mean the end of the republic. The country survived a civil war, 2 world wars, a great depression, a cold war, Vietnam, 9/11. But it can’t survive another 4 years of Obama.

Every 4 years we’re told the same thing…this is the most important election ever. And if Candidate X wins, the country is over. It’s hyperbole.

angryed on April 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

The reason the Republic will not survive another four years of Obama can be stated in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Right because 4 more years of Obama will mean the end of the republic. The country survived a civil war, 2 world wars, a great depression, a cold war, Vietnam, 9/11. But it can’t survive another 4 years of Obama.

Every 4 years we’re told the same thing…this is the most important election ever. And if Candidate X wins, the country is over. It’s hyperbole.

angryed on April 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

But it’s a disaster if Romney’s elected, according to you. Give it up ed- your big master plan is to lose the election. Any loser can do that.

Chuck Schick on April 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM

The reason the Republic will not survive another four years of Obama can be stated in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Thank you.

Everything else is just background noise…

Tenwheeler on April 17, 2012 at 1:08 PM

The reason the Republic will not survive another four years of Obama can be stated in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

The only caveat is that if Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts, or Alito don’t retire or die in the next four years, Obama will only be replacing the other two liberal justices. But it is bad news for appointments to district and federal courts.

However, I wouldn’t count out Obama revisiting FDR’s attempt at increasing the number of Justices to the Supreme Court.

Jurisprudence on April 17, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Walker will win. Recalls are stupid unless there is a crime involved.

damian1967 on April 17, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Double dose of Democrat downers.

Debbie Double-name Does a Double-melt Down.

Tsar of Earth on April 17, 2012 at 1:18 PM

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

angryed is a Moby having a slow meltdown as his/her lack of discipline undermines their “concern trolling”.

angryed wants us to believe they are a principled Tea Party conservative who won’t vote for Romney because Romney is too liberal. angryed’s goal is to get conservatives to stay home this November, thereby helping 0bama.

angryed’s problem is that he/she lacks the self-control needed for successful Moby-trolling, which in any case is less effective than angryed and his/her fellows at Daily Kos think. angryed goes off-script way too often to be believable.

For instance, a true Tea Partier would not lash out at Hannity, Limbaugh, and FNC from the left as angryed does in another thread today.

angryed here downplays the negative consequences of another 0bama term…which contradicts his/her earlier assertions that he/she wants to see 0bama destroy the country as a punishment to RINOs for not being conservative enough.

MidniteRambler on April 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM

The reason the Republic will not survive another four years of Obama can be stated in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

The only caveat is that if Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts, or Alito don’t retire or die in the next four years, Obama will only be replacing the other two liberal justices. But it is bad news for appointments to district and federal courts.

However, I wouldn’t count out Obama revisiting FDR’s attempt at increasing the number of Justices to the Supreme Court.

Jurisprudence on April 17, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I think O’bama gets 3 SCOTUS appointments if he wins re-election. That’s all he needs. One of the first 3 guys you mention will either retire or kick the bucket.

O’bama has nothing to lose if he gets 4 more years. That is what is so scary. We already know what type of SCOTUS Justices he will appoint. But only moonbats like angryed will fault Romney for the Judges he appointed as MA Governor. 40% of those appointments were Democrats, but remember he had to go thru an 8 member board-all of whom were Democrats.

Del Dolemonte on April 17, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Speaking of yourself on Nov 7th again.

angryed on April 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

If Obama wins, I’ll soldier on.

You’ve worked yourself into such a tizzy over Romney that you, after supporting conservative candidates to defeat him, are now supporting the socialist Obama.

Which of us is it at the greater risk of nervous breakdown in November?

Right.

Red Cloud on April 17, 2012 at 1:33 PM

You can say 2+2=5 100 times if you want. Doesn’t make it so. You are in a cult so you claim 2+2=5 if it makes your leader look good.

angryed on April 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the prosecution rests.

Red Cloud on April 17, 2012 at 1:34 PM

In other polling news, CNN says Walker is down by 20%…..

oldroy on April 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM

In other polling news, CNN says Walker is down by 20%…..

oldroy on April 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM

CNN also says Obama is up 9%.

farsighted on April 17, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Considering we spent the 8 years prior to Walker in free-fall off said cliff,….

Steve Eggleston on April 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I think it goes back further than that Steve. And BTW, did Jimmy D (the former gov, not the sausage guy) enter the witness protection program when he left office? I haven’t heard a peep from him and the libzies act as though he never even existed.

teejk on April 17, 2012 at 2:18 PM

WIN… WALKER…WIN…!!!
…AGGRAVATE angryed!

KOOLAID2 on April 17, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Walker will win. Recalls are stupid unless there is a crime involved.

damian1967 on April 17, 2012 at 1:13 PM

CA and Gov Arnold
no crime was committed by Gov. Davis …

conservative tarheel on April 17, 2012 at 2:34 PM

But only moonbats like angryed will fault Romney for the Judges he appointed as MA Governor. 40% of those appointments were Democrats, but remember he had to go thru an 8 member board-all of whom were Democrats

i can not remember but didn’t Mitt create that board?

conservative tarheel on April 17, 2012 at 2:36 PM

At least Walker has a record to run on. Unlike a certain presidential candidate seeking re-election.

GarandFan on April 17, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Obama has a record to run on … just not a GOOD one :D

conservative tarheel on April 17, 2012 at 2:40 PM

The reason the Republic will not survive another four years of Obama can be stated in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Not only that, but Obama has been abusing EOs with vigor. His efforts at going around checks and balances are an abuse of power. He has unelected and unaccountable agencies imposing fiats on the citizenry, and he must be stopped.

onlineanalyst on April 17, 2012 at 2:46 PM

angryed on Anytime

Ed, be sure to let us know when the Secret Service or FBI meet with you to evaluate the likelihood that you pose a threat to Romney.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 17, 2012 at 2:48 PM

onlineanalyst on April 17, 2012 at 2:46 PM

But when Bush used EO’s that was ok?

damian1967 on April 17, 2012 at 3:38 PM

conservative tarheel on April 17, 2012 at 2:34 PM

I agree, and did not make it right then either.

damian1967 on April 17, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Just to clarify – recalls in WI are a “one and done” event. That’s probably why Walker didn’t challenge the obviously fraudulent petitions – it’s better to get this over with, because they cannot recall him again during this term.

About those petitions, things have been mighty quiet since Walker chose not to challenge. Don’t be surprised if there’s a slew of post-election prosecutions. After all, election tampering is a felony, and a conviction would not only get the fraudsters off the voting registrations for good, it would help the WI treasury to the tune of $10K per offense.

Daisy_WI on April 17, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Daisy_WI on April 17, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Daisy

A friend mentioned that only some 25,000 signatures were successfully challenged (he reads the State Journal). I had to inform him that that was based on 900,000 signatures. The original submitted count was closer to 1.1 million signatures meaning that 200,000 didn’t even make it to the review. So the number of “rejects” was closer to 225,000 (you won’t find that in the State Journal). I spent some 6 hours in the painful “eye-ball” review (very ineffective due to my mind’s inability to retain details beyond a page or two) and am convinced that given more time with a populated database, the number would soar.

I did send a note to Walker’s office suggesting that the Dept of Revenue use the petition data as a means of finding people that claim to be resident for purposes of signing a petition but don’t show up as filing a state resident tax return. I doubt they’ll do that but it would certainly be fun to listen to the screaming when the DOR comes knocking looking for your taxes. The perfect “cornered rat”.

teejk on April 17, 2012 at 4:14 PM

I did send a note to Walker’s office suggesting that the Dept of Revenue use the petition data as a means of finding people that claim to be resident for purposes of signing a petition but don’t show up as filing a state resident tax return. I doubt they’ll do that but it would certainly be fun to listen to the screaming when the DOR comes knocking looking for your taxes. The perfect “cornered rat”.

teejk on April 17, 2012 at 4:14 PM

hey that’s so true and SHOULD happen. I wish they’d do that.

WashingtonsWake on April 17, 2012 at 6:41 PM

The reason the Republic will not survive another four years of Obama can be stated in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”

RedHotinNJ on April 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

FINALLY!!! Someone who see,s the real danger ahead.

royzer on April 17, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I think it goes back further than that Steve. And BTW, did Jimmy D (the former gov, not the sausage guy) enter the witness protection program when he left office? I haven’t heard a peep from him and the libzies act as though he never even existed.

teejk on April 17, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Your right, haven’t heard a thing about him. He probably retired to another state where his state pension will go farther.

wi farmgirl on April 17, 2012 at 9:16 PM

I did send a note to Walker’s office suggesting that the Dept of Revenue use the petition data as a means of finding people that claim to be resident for purposes of signing a petition but don’t show up as filing a state resident tax return. I doubt they’ll do that but it would certainly be fun to listen to the screaming when the DOR comes knocking looking for your taxes. The perfect “cornered rat”.

teejk on April 17, 2012 at 4:14 PM

And perhaps there are many that should be paying taxes that aren’t, good idea. People have to realize that this is serious business and we want this crap to quit.

wi farmgirl on April 17, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Sorry, did not read previous.

HEY AFSCME IGNORE THIS!!!!!

It’s really much closer than that. I mean seriously what does PPP/DKos know. This is definitely worth the investment. Please, spend LOTS of money here.

WryTrvllr on April 17, 2012 at 9:36 PM

More “fun” from PPP/DKos via Kevin Binversie, this time polling in the 4 Senate districts. Short version – outside the 21st Senate seat (where the UnionRATS in the city of Racine are trying to saddle the rest of the county with a rejected ‘Rat before redistricting separates the two), things are looking very up for the Republicans.

Steve Eggleston on April 17, 2012 at 9:56 PM

It’s hyperbole.

angryed on April 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Gotta tell you, Ed … this comment is one for the ages.

Jaibones on April 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

More “fun” from PPP/DKos via Kevin Binversie, this time polling in the 4 Senate districts. Short version – outside the 21st Senate seat (where the UnionRATS in the city of Racine are trying to saddle the rest of the county with a rejected ‘Rat before redistricting separates the two), things are looking very up for the Republicans.

Steve Eggleston on April 17, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Delicious! Thanks for the encouragement Steve!

wi farmgirl on April 18, 2012 at 6:59 AM

Proof that Conservatism continues to earn the support of the majority of the voters as well as from the TEA Party.

DannoJyd on April 19, 2012 at 7:05 AM

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