Former Obama adviser on Bill Maher’s Ann Romney remarks: Uh, yeah, they’re “problematic”

posted at 3:41 pm on April 16, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The president has a choice to make: Will he distance himself from Million-Dollar Misogynist Bill Maher or will he risk damage to his electoral chances by association with the classless comedian? Not only has Maher repeatedly demeaned conservative women, but he recently backed up Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen’s controversial remarks about Ann Romney. Maher’s defense of Rosen was typical — tasteless and crude. Unfortunately for the president, the comedian is widely known to have donated $1 million to the Obama Super PAC, Priorities USA. He might be an uninvited surrogate for the president, but he’s a surrogate nevertheless.

Former Obama adviser Melody Barnes hinted in an appearance on ABC’s “This Week” that she thinks the president should distance himself from Maher. She called the comedian’s comments “problematic” for the administration and asserted that the president is really committed to civility.

“I listened to those comments, and my grandmother’s voice came in my head. I thought about the phrase, ‘Home training.’ You know, the language, the sentiment are problematic,” Barnes said. …

Barnes, former director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, added that the president and the Obama campaign have said that civility “matters.”

” ‘The way we talk to each other matters.’ And they’re going to have to, as you said, make a decision,” she said.

Barnes was responding to host George Stephanopoulos’s question on whether the president will have to “cut ties” with Maher. She told ABC that in similar situations in the past the White House has distanced itself from the television host.

Does the Hilary Rosen/Ann Romney episode somehow mark a turning point in the civility debate? For the first time in recent memory, we’ve seen liberals call out other liberals for a lack of civility.
Sure, David Axelrod and David Plouffe still sought to spin the whole episode in Obama’s favor, suggesting the president’s curt dismissal of Rosen’s comments indicated a bravery Mitt Romney didn’t possess during the Rush Limbaugh/Sandra Fluke controversy.
By and large, though, the members of the Obama campaign haven’t tried to turn this one around on conservatives, haven’t tried to suggest that conservatives are nothing but uncivil, while liberals are infallibly golden-tongued.
Believe me, I don’t want to be naive — but I’d also like to think that the constant conservative illumination of the double standard employed by lefties on the civility issue might actually have opened some eyes. If the civility battles end with a uniform denouncement of incivility, then consider me soundly on the side of those who advocate polite public discourse.

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A week from today nobody will remember this.

angryed on April 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

…and Ann Coulter was screwing this guy???…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

…and Ann Coulter was screwing this guy???…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Explains why she’s such a Romney whore. She loves herself very liberal men.

angryed on April 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

But bho/team STILL have no intentions of giving back one single penny of the 1M pig maher gave?
L

letget on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

“Just a Comedian in my neighborhood”

Electrongod on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Bill stuck up for Limabaugh’s right to be a d*ck.
Can’t you do the same for Maher?
And as this will turn into a false equivalency thread – if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?
Come on now…fair’s fair.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Former Obama adviser Melody Barnes hinted in an appearance on ABC’s “This Week” that she thinks the president should distance himself from Maher.

So what trash came out of Maher the Mouth this time?

Go get ‘er, boys and girls! Ann Romney will soon have higher favorables than Obi Wannabe, and women will vote for her hubby.

Steve Z on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

The Hair Plugs have officially entered Bill “Plugs” Maher’s tiny brain. I didn’t think the hair plugs were deep enough to infiltrate that small organ, but it has happened. That is all.

Tbone McGraw on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I suspect Obama will just ignore it and hope the whole thing dies down on its own. If he came out and sided with or against Maher it would extend it for another news cycle.

Doomberg on April 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM

She called the comedian’s comments “problematic” for the administration and asserted that the president is really committed to civility.

Just a reminder about Obama’s “committment to civility”.

Kataklysmic on April 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Explains why she’s such a Romney whore. She loves herself very liberal men.

angryed on April 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

And we have our very own Maher here as well! He’s even committed, publicly, to vote for Pres. Obama, come November.

Prufrock on April 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Bill stuck up for Limabaugh’s right to be ahis d*ck?

Sorry, I thought that was Anthony Weiner.

Steve Z on April 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM

“Problematic.”

That means that there was nothing wrong with it. He just shouldn’t have said it, before the election.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM

…and Ann Coulter was screwing this guy???…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Back in his “Politically Incorrect” TV days, he was actually worth watching. He was much like Dennis Miller.

crosspatch on April 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Explains why she’s such a Romney whore. She loves herself very liberal men.

angryed on April 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

In your case “red” is red as in communist red, right? Don’t you have a diary to update over at Daily Kos?

crosspatch on April 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM

And we have our very own Maher here as well! He’s even committed, publicly, to vote for Pres. Obama, come November.

Prufrock on April 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM

That doesn’t explain why Coulter has turned into a RINO shill….

idesign on April 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Explains why she’s such a Romney whore. She loves herself very liberal men.

angryed on April 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

You need to take it down a notch, son.

You may want to get some help. You have issues.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Test

Kataklysmic on April 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I guess we can add links from “The Blaze” to the list of sites the filter doesn’t like.

Kataklysmic on April 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Believe me, I don’t want to be naive — but I’d also like to think that the constant conservative illumination of the double standard employed by lefties on the civility issue might actually have opened some eyes.

Luv ya, TK, but you are being naive. What’s opened the Dems’ eyes on this is the internal polling that’s got them scared sh-tless about losing ground with women voters. When you’ve already written off men, the last thing you can afford is to have problems with the other gender.

Doughboy on April 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

So…how long before the Media starts pounding on misfit Maher like they did on Rush?
Oh wait…he’s a commenting comic co#k…I forgot!

KOOLAID2 on April 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM

if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?
Come on now…fair’s fair.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Point well taken. BUT, private charities do not “lead” our nation. The President does. The President is the leader of our WHOLE nation. His is a different predicament that specially demands more discretion and inclusion.

Not saying he ever does that…just that, ideally, the Presidency should be above the person who currently holds the office.

bntafraid on April 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Maher under the bus? No way.

Resist We Much on April 16, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Explains why she’s such a Romney whore. She loves herself very liberal men.

angryed on April 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

You were quiet about Romney over the weekend, at least the threads I saw you in. I was hoping you were ready to let it go and fight Obama. But sadly, you are still shilling for him by being a ABR ObamaCon. Pathetic.

thebrokenrattle on April 16, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Romney, Obama in Tight Race as Gallup Daily Tracking Begins
Romney voters slightly more certain they will vote
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153902/Romney-Obama-Tight-Race-Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Begins.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ — Mitt Romney is supported by 47% of national registered voters and Barack Obama by 45% in the inaugural Gallup Daily tracking results from April 11-15. Both Obama and Romney are supported by 90% of their respective partisans.

Let us all Hope we can begin a countdown to the end of the Downgrade era.

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground. Thomas Jefferson

Chip on April 16, 2012 at 4:00 PM

With regard to “Why does Ann Coulter love Romney,” she explained it herself.

She said that of the three candidates (Romney, Newt, and Santorum), only Romney had unequivocally said that: (i) he would not offer some form of amnesty for illegals; and (ii) he would fight to overturn Obamacare.

She also noted (correctly) that she had supported Romney in 2008. I.e., while lunatics are calling her a whore, a sellout, etc., in fact she was being consistent.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I suspect Obama will just ignore it and hope the whole thing dies down on its own. If he came out and sided with or against Maher it would extend it for another news cycle.

Doomberg

0′zero may not, but some LibTard® is sure to pick up the chicken and run with it. Their learning curve appears to be shallow, quadrupling down in some cases.

8thAirForce on April 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM

When you’ve already written off men, the last thing you can afford is to have problems with the other gender.

Doughboy on April 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

All he’d have left to try to bring over to his side would be, oh, the Coke or Pepsi or the cat or dog demographics.

And they’ll screw that up too.

BobMbx on April 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I guess we can add links from “The Blaze” to the list of sites the filter doesn’t like.

Kataklysmic on April 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

There must be a forbidden word like W**kie, or Ch*wbacca, or W*rf in the link.

batterup on April 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Maher friendless, (nobody really likes the rat face jerk) hateful, goddless, he is going to end sadly.

StevC on April 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM

“I listened to those comments, and my grandmother’s voice came in my head. I thought about the phrase, ‘Home training.’ You know, the language, the sentiment are problematic,” Barnes said. …

Child psychologists used to tell us that all behavior related back to potty training. Maher’s mom never washed his mouth out with soap.

de rigueur on April 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Bill stuck up for Limabaugh’s right to be a d*ck.
Can’t you do the same for Maher?
And as this will turn into a false equivalency thread – if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?
Come on now…fair’s fair.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Wounded Warrior Project isn’t political, doesn’t support any candidates..

You’re clueless, and engaging in your own false equivalence. If Rush gave any money to any GOP politicians..

feel free to demand they return it..

but he doesn’t..

so you want wounded GI’s to pay the price for your hurt pride over Obama’s double standards? How about you simply tell the left to stop attacking every single conservative woman in the vilest terms..

Then we’ll talk about Rush..

a private citizen who doesn’t own any politicians the way Maher has bought and paid for Obama’s silence.

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Believe me, I don’t want to be naive — but I’d also like to think that the constant conservative illumination of the double standard employed by lefties on the civility issue might actually have opened some eyes.

lol….

Too late…..your naivety is showing.

Tim_CA on April 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Dear Mrs. Maher,

I’m sorry you were punished with this child….

(Sorry – I couldn’t resist; BM is just doing this in a pathetic attempt to get people to pay attention to him)

TeresainFortWorth on April 16, 2012 at 4:13 PM

It’s only a time out until Liberals get the edge again.

Ukiah on April 16, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Back in his “Politically Incorrect” TV days, he was actually worth watching. He was much like Dennis Miller.

crosspatch on April 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

He never was funny. Typical smarmy liberal humor consisting of an in-crowd nudge and wink (“aren’t we cooler than they are?”), nothing genuinely clever or insightful about it. Conservatives were scoring his misnamed “Politically Incorrect” show as “anything but” from the get-go.

de rigueur on April 16, 2012 at 4:19 PM

That doesn’t explain why Coulter has turned into a RINO shill….

idesign on April 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Yeah, god forbid she like certain candidates over others for office.

changer1701 on April 16, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Please, please, please keep this guy around and make him a Star in every Obama commercial we run. Bill Maher, the face of the Democratic Party, also don’t forget about Debbie Downer.

DDay on April 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM

and asserted that the president is really committed to civility.

only a severely stupid mouthpiece would say that..oh wait
:P

burrata on April 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Barnes, former director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, added that the president and the Obama campaign have said that civility “matters.”

I’m sure it’s not what Ms. Barnes meant, but what I got out of what she said was…

It’s ok to lie about someone else’s position, as long as you do so with a civil tongue. It’s not ok to tell people what you honestly think, even if what you think is friggin’ nuts (see: Bill Maher), if you do so with an uncivil tongue.

Maher’s a douche, but I can at least say that he is an honest douche in that he honestly believes the tripe that spews from his mouth. I can take Maher’s idiocy a lot easier than I can take Debbie Wassername-Schmutz twisting logic like a circus acrobat in order to say Republicans want to leave dying women lay on hospital floors while they smoke cigars and sip brandy and chuckle, when she knows damn well no one is advocating that crap.

I’ll take an honest idiot over a lying bitch any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

gravityman on April 16, 2012 at 4:25 PM

…so you want wounded GI’s to pay the price for your hurt pride over Obama’s double standards?…

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

You can not be serious.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Believe me, I don’t want to be naive — but I’d also like to think that the constant conservative illumination of the double standard employed by lefties on the civility issue might actually have opened some eyes.

Sorry, Tina, but you are being naive.

There are two – and only two – scenarios in which the professional Left “cares” about perception issues:

1. When said issue can be used to bludgeon Republicans.

2. When said issue may be used to bludgeon Democrats.

To borrow a military phrase, George Stephanopoulos serves as a Democrat “tip of the spear” in the news media…meaning he preps the media battlespace to help bring about the most favorable outcome for Democrats. The fact that he is discussing Maher is not evidence of any soul-searching on the Left…it means that the Democrats have conducted polling on the subject of Maher and his donation to Obama’s SuperPAC and that polling is scaring the sh!t of them. They want to get out in front of an issue that will hogtie them through the entire campaign on so many different levels (i.e., Dems try their “Republican War on Women!” card, Republicans answer with “What about Democrate super-donor Bill “Sarah Palin is a C*nt” Maher?”…Dems try their “SuperPACs are evil!” meme, Republicans answer with “You don’t seem to have any problem with misogynist Bill Maher’s donations?”. IOW Maher is a net negative: he gives them nothing (those who like him would still vote for Obama if Obama walked out on Maher’s set and ate a human baby) but he can potentially cost them dearly (with the 80% of Americans who find Maher’s “speech” reprehensible).

What Stephanopoulos is doing here is starting a “national dialogue” that the other news orgs will pick up. That will in turn lead to “a teachable moment” for the country. Finally, after “alot of soul-searching” and thinking about “the sort of example that I want to set for my daughters”, Obama will have no choice but to “follow my conscience” and ask that the SuperPAC return Maher’s donation. The Lefty news outlets will gush and slurp, praising Obama’s “high-minded integrity” and “inflappable consistency” and general awesomeness.

Prediction: Maher joins Granny and Jeremiah under the bus by May 1st.

rvastar on April 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Believe me, I don’t want to be naive — but I’d also like to think that the constant conservative illumination of the double standard employed by lefties on the civility issue might actually have opened some eyes.

If you don’t want to be naive, then stop believing what the Obama spin doctors tell you. First of all, how in heck is the Dems distancing themselves from Rosen equal to them putting their money where their mouths are on civil debate? What Rosen said was wrong & demeaning to SAHMs but it wasn’t uncivil (i.e, “Ann Romney never worked a day in her life”). What Maher said, OTOH, is uncivil (i.e. — She’s never gotten her @ss out of the house). Money talks, b.s. walks. Obama says now the he has distanced himself from Maher in the past — um, when? When he took that million? It’s a big old lie. Now, if Obama gives back the money & the Dems start calling for a boycott of Maher, for HBO to stop production of his show, etc, then you might be on to something.

Furthermore, I remember 2008 & I remember Obama’s “above the fray” pretense while he sent his minions out to trash his opponents, first in the primary then in the GE and it was the most uncivil thing I’ve ever seen in my life time — you were r@csit just for even questioning Obama’s record (i.e, one example off the top of my head that he was “against” the Iraq war when he wasn’t even in the US Senate at the time of the vote & voted consistently to fund the war once there) & don’t even get me started on what his female opponents faced. This is more of the same — Rosen was sent out to make the hit & since it didn’t work, she is taking the fall. Of course all the Dems are lining up to throw her under the bus — it’s the only way to protect Obama & make sure it doesn’t connect back to him. It is called plausible deniability. Maher, OTOH, is a comedian with a show that he uses to push the liberal agenda without actual visits to the WH and/or payment from the DNC for “consulting” — it is easy to say Obama has “distanced” himself from Maher, because there is no public, traceable connection to Obama like there is with Rosen (other than that donation, and hey, anyone can donate $$ to a candiate). Again, plausible deniability. Don’t fool yourself.

Dark Star on April 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM

There is zero chance the left has suddenly grown a conscience, none at all. This may be a lot less the left became aware of what they looked like.. then Breitbart’s admonitions are proving true.

We’re fighting back, hard, and not letting up. The left for the first time, is having to actually defend itself on a sustained basis. From calling them out in national news show other than FOX, to the push coming from Breitbarts Bigs…

The left won’t modify it’s behavior till it becomes to painful not to.

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM

…and Ann Coulter was screwing this guy???…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Couldn’t get enough of his big, dirty mouth?

Archivarix on April 16, 2012 at 4:35 PM

…so you want wounded GI’s to pay the price for your hurt pride over Obama’s double standards?…

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

You can not be serious.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Yes..

if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?
Come on now…fair’s fair.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I am..

You wrote it putz.. own it or back off..

it would be as stupid as demanding the red cross return any contributions from Maher.. which he’d never make..

you can’t buy protection from them like you can an entire political party with dollar signs in it’s eyes.

can you.

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:39 PM

That doesn’t explain why Coulter has turned into a RINO shill….

idesign on April 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Not my problem. I’m not agreeing with Coulter — I’m pointing out that denigration of women with whom we disagree is… well, Maherian behavior.

Capiche?

Prufrock on April 16, 2012 at 4:40 PM

If Bill Maher received “home training” from a full-time mom, he sure is embarrassing her now with his behavior.

Philly on April 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM

You wrote it putz.. own it or back off..

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Listen here, you angry little bunny –
You are just a a big…
nah, just kidding.

Look – to suggest seriously that my comment means I want “want wounded GI’s to pay’ some price or something is just absurd.
Have you zero comprehension skills? Or did you just enter this thread with a pounding headache?
Silly. Ridiculous. (I’m avoiding the words you’d use here).
But, it is just super easy to not take you seriously at all.
Hop along…

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Huge differences between Rush and Maher. It’s inherent in their respective ideologies. This story illustrates it well.

“But what she meant to say, I think, was that Ann Romney has never gotten her ass out of the house to work,” he joked. “No one is denying that being a mother is a tough job, I remember that I was a handful. OK, but there is a big difference in being a mother, and that tough job, and getting your ass out of the door at 7 a.m. when it’s cold, having to deal with the boss, being in a workplace, where even if you’re unhappy you can’t show it for 8 hours.”

Therefore, Ann Romney is in fact, not fit to comment about the economy or how it affects women.

This is liberal mindset 101. But for someone to articulate this is what’s problematic. Liberals are not able to say what they really believe.

Rush never believed that Sandra Fluke was a slut, he was not speaking a truth and that is why he apologized.

When ElRushbo espouses conservatism, I can proudly support and back him.

mike_NC9 on April 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I recently told DIRECTV to cancel my HBO subscription. They asked why, I told them HBO is HATE TV and has grown too political (used the Game Change movie as an example) and that they support the foul mouth misogynist Bill Maher. I’m not going to pay them to support the Democratic party!

Karmi on April 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

…and Ann Coulter was screwing this guy???…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM

With a strap-on.

Mr. Arkadin on April 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Point well taken. BUT, private charities do not “lead” our nation. The President does. The President is the leader of our WHOLE nation. His is a different predicament that specially demands more discretion and inclusion.

Not saying he ever does that…just that, ideally, the Presidency should be above the person who currently holds the office.

bntafraid on April 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Agreed, pretty much.
And as far as Tina’s desire for Obama to ‘distance’ himself from Maher – they’re not exactly golf buddies. Maher and Limbaugh would actually more enjoy each other’s bawdy company.
Also, I don’t know if these days one should view PACs as much different from private charities. (And I’d be all for publicly funded elections – and less wounded GIs in need of Limbaugh’s support.)
And I see it, Obama should keep the PAC money, and Limbaugh’s contributions should remain and continue.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Karmi on April 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

But you’ll miss Game of Thrones!
Don’t do this to yourself…it ain’t right.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Huge differences between Rush and Maher. It’s inherent in their respective ideologies.

mike_NC9 on April 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I seriously think they’re more alike than not – in that they’d want the same kind of vacation.
And it would not be one social cons would approve of…

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:59 PM

With regard to “Why does Ann Coulter love Romney,” she explained it herself.

She said that of the three candidates (Romney, Newt, and Santorum), only Romney had unequivocally said that: (i) he would not offer some form of amnesty for illegals; and (ii) he would fight to overturn Obamacare.

She also noted (correctly) that she had supported Romney in 2008. I.e., while lunatics are calling her a whore, a sellout, etc., in fact she was being consistent.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM

BOTH LIES.

Newt was the FIRST and only who said he will rescind HusseinCare right after inaugural as his FIRST act if elected.

Coulter was calling Romney liberal and clueless as recently as 2010. Don’t repeat open lies, do some research on your own own. Plenty of videos available.

As for Coulter and Maher, “Tell me who your friends are…” Goes for Hannety and Beckel, Boortz and Beckel, etc, etc, etc. All so called “conservatives” with plenty of communist friends.

riddick on April 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM

if owebama had a son, he’d sound like bill maher….

Dr. Demento on April 16, 2012 at 5:03 PM

I guess I missed something.

What office is Ann Romney running for?

kbTexan on April 16, 2012 at 5:08 PM

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I just would like you to rethink that line..

Look it’s easy.. you were grasping for some equivalent donation from Rush to be returned..

and you couldn’t find one,.. because he doesn’t donate to politicians.. for this very reason. He knows he’s controversial, knows the left hates him.. so anything he donates to any politician would be used against them.

Maher’s donation was completely cynical.. he knows Obama will eat broken glass before returning that kind of money.. When he’s already way below the targeted level of contributions he’s hoping to get. Maher also knows,… he’s a made man now, and no democrat will make much of an issue about him, because he gives money to them.

and if you must know.. Headache. no… screaming arthritis,.. yeah, I don’t handle rain well..

sigh.. I have to admit…

You’re very good.. not many people would take the time to attempt with gentle humor to lower the volume from an angry comment..

sorry.. I get really touchy over vet charities.. my injuries are not service related.. but I very much know what traumatic injuries are like, and having to live with them.

my apologies.. shouldn’t have gotten so angry so quick.

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Bill stuck up for Limabaugh’s right to be a d*ck.
Can’t you do the same for Maher? Come on now…fair’s fair.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Maher only stuck up for Rush (tepidly, at that…) because Maher knew he was going to be next. If you think that BM (what appropriate initials…) was somehow being fair and magnanimous, you need to lay off the crack pipe.

And as this will turn into a false equivalency thread – if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

How the hell do you figure that? That’s not even remotely an accurate comparison. Rush isn’t the president of the damned country and he doesn’t go on TV everyday, demanding “civility”, and talking about how he’s going to change the tone of the discourse in Washington, only to then personally accept a million bucks from one of the biggest purveyors of vile filth and misogyny in the media. Sorry, but your comparison doesn’t make an iota of sense.

Dopenstrange on April 16, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Bill Maher is the head of the democrat party – he speaks for ‘obama 2012′ and all democrats.

Pork-Chop on April 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Million-Dollar Misogynist

Well done, Tina.

thirtyandseven on April 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Sorry, but your comparison doesn’t make an iota of sense.

Dopenstrange on April 16, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Only an idiot would compare donations to a communist cause versus donations for the troops defending our freedom.

riddick on April 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Listen here, you angry little bunny –
You are just a a big…
nah, just kidding.

Look – to suggest seriously that my comment means I want “want wounded GI’s to pay’ some price or something is just absurd.
Have you zero comprehension skills? Or did you just enter this thread with a pounding headache?
Silly. Ridiculous. (I’m avoiding the words you’d use here).
But, it is just super easy to not take you seriously at all.
Hop along…

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM

you seem to think your snark proves some point but you’re wrong. Mark made a good point and your comparison between a political candidate and a charity is just stupid. I’m not trying to be contrary here, but your original post was pretty shallow.

Ampersand on April 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Bill Maher is the head of the democrat party – he speaks for ‘obama 2012′ and all democrats.

Pork-Chop on April 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Actually, I was thinking it was the other end…

But then, with Democrats, how would you know?

kbTexan on April 16, 2012 at 5:17 PM

my apologies.. shouldn’t have gotten so angry so quick.

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Thanks!
I wasn’t too offended.

If what I wrote sounded like I indeed saw any equivalency – then I didn’t articulate well.
I was more mocking the latest ‘outrage’ – and demand for boycott or returned monies etc.
I think folks should be able to say things. I won’t pretend that I am not a Maher fan – AND that I didn’t see Limbaugh’s recent controversial comments as much harsher than anything Maher is saying here – but that’s really beside the point.
And I’m involved with a wounded vets fundraiser each year, so..

Anyway, appreciate the backtrack on the anger – even as I know we still don’t agree here.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 5:23 PM

BOTH LIES.

Newt was the FIRST and only who said he will rescind HusseinCare right after inaugural as his FIRST act if elected.

Coulter was calling Romney liberal and clueless as recently as 2010. Don’t repeat open lies, do some research on your own own. Plenty of videos available.

riddick on April 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Geez. What do lead paint chips taste like?

Look, I don’t mind debating politics, but I shouldn’t have to teach remedial reading.

I said that Ann said that Romney was the only candidate of the big three (Romney, Newt, and Santorum) who said that: (i) he would not offer some form of amnesty for illegals; and (ii) he would fight to overturn Obamacare. That’s two things. One. Two.

Yes, Newt said that he would work to overturn Obamacare. However, Newt also came out with some half-baked amnesty plan. I.e., Newt was one-for-two.

With regard to what Ann may have said in 2010, I followed her endorsement of Mitt in 2008. Yes, she endorsed Mitt in 2008. She says that she has been consistent. I have no reason to doubt her, but if you want to spend the evening digging up something to prove your point: (i) feel free; and (ii) get a life. Or a friend. Even if it’s just one.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 16, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Ampersand on April 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

First, ‘ampersand’ is one my favorite words.
Second, I won’t say what I wrote wasn’t shallow…but I don’t think it was wrong. (And this is the Hot Air commentary section – not exactly a hotbed of well thought out and articulated positions…but positions still the same.)
Third, I see in this context a demand that monies to be returned perfectly aligned for the sake of the argument. But I of course see a difference between PACs and real charities. (Both of which, by the way, do in fact return monies due to something some donor said or did.)

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 5:29 PM

And I see it, Obama should keep the PAC money, and Limbaugh’s contributions should remain and continue.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Oh yes. I agree.
Obama now has his public spokesman for the administration’s attitude towards women. Let’s keep it that way.

a capella on April 16, 2012 at 5:39 PM

I said that Ann said that Romney was the only candidate of the big three (Romney, Newt, and Santorum) who said that: (i) he would not offer some form of amnesty for illegals; and (ii) he would fight to overturn Obamacare. That’s two things. One. Two.

Yeah Coulter definitely supports Romney:
http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/video-ann-coulter-was-against-romney-before-she-was-for-romney/

But, hey, you seem to have a great life, enjoy it.

riddick on April 16, 2012 at 5:49 PM

riddick on April 16, 2012 at 5:49 PM

You can whine and cry all you want. However, absent some catastrophe (e.g., assassination or accident), here is one irrebuttable truth: Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee for President in 2012.

You might not like him (I was a Newt guy myself), but unless we feel like throwing away our votes in 2012 by writing in a candidate or staying home, we are going to vote for: (i) Mitt; or (ii) Obama.

I am not going to p1ss away time arguing about what Ann Coulter may have said in 2010. She said she has supported Mitt consistently since 2008. I am fine with that. But even if she hadn’t, that does not change the fact that, as I said above, it will come down to Mitt or Obama.

Tell you what. You are arguing with me about Ann Coulter. Let’s cut the middleman–me–out. You contact Ann and tell her she’s a liar.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 16, 2012 at 6:00 PM

a capella on April 16, 2012 at 5:39 PM

I think we can all look forward to Romney really winning on this issue. In fact, it just make so much sense for him and Ann and their team and fans to keep going out on this limb.
It’s not like anyone is ever going to really ask them any questions about policy, etc. – right? They can just stick with Fox News appearances right up until the end.
No worries at all.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Does the Hilary Rosen/Ann Romney episode somehow mark a turning point in the civility debate?

What you are seeing is what I would be concerned about if our side was doing this crap. The concern that rational, reasonable people don’t trust in leadership and vote for mud-slingers and smear merchants.

Political operatives spend their lives trying to figure out how to get people to feel good about their party and the idea you can go too far and that they HAVE gone too far is making some of them try to publically reign in the others and advise those in office they need to have some seperation from the bomb throwers to have credibility they need with swing voters.

Conan on April 16, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Bill stuck up for Limabaugh’s right to be a d*ck.
Can’t you do the same for Maher?
And as this will turn into a false equivalency thread – if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?
Come on now…fair’s fair.

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Charities = Campaign Donations?

You are the one who brought up false equivalency.

How many soldiers, marines, sailors, air men are running for President of the United States? Answer None.

Dr Evil on April 16, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Liberals think that stay-at-home moms like Ann Romney are bad people who never worked a day in their lives. Got off her arse and contributed to society to paraphrase Maher.

Conversely liberals think that welfare queens who also do not have jobs are the salt of the earth even though they are the ultimate stay-at-home mother since it is the state and not the family that is funding their lifestyle.

Happy Nomad on April 16, 2012 at 7:03 PM

She has been involved in a number of children’s charities, including being director of the inner city-oriented Best Friends. She worked extensively with the Ten Point Coalition in Boston and with other groups that promoted better safety and opportunities for urban youths. She was given the 2006 Lifetime Achievement Award from Salt Lake City-based Operation Kids. She has also served as a board member for the United Way of America and helped found United Way Faith and Action.

That doesn’t sound to me like someone who never bothered to get off their a$$ and get out of the house.

crosspatch on April 16, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Anyone who thinks that this incident signals a new beginning, a change of tone or whatever you want to call it where Democrats have suddenly had an epiphany regarding civility and good taste, is seriously kidding themselves. I certainly have no such illusions.

A tiger is a tiger and will always be a tiger. A Democrat/liberal knows no other way to behave other than to be boorish and nasty whenever they believe there is a political advantage (read: always) to do so.

trapeze on April 16, 2012 at 7:36 PM

You may want to get some help. You have issues.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM

That’s totally unfair. Ed’s made a lot of progress over the past months, and I think that ultimately the Santorum project was actually helpful for a lot of us. I feel like I have grown, too … I’ve changed.

And so has Ed. He’s not as angry. We’re doing a funder together for Mitt right after the VP announcement.

Jaibones on April 16, 2012 at 9:40 PM

A tiger is a tiger and will always be a tiger.

trapeze on April 16, 2012 at 7:36 PM

I think you mean scorpion…don’t you?

Jaibones on April 16, 2012 at 9:45 PM

And as this will turn into a false equivalency thread – if Obama returns the Maher PAC money, shouldn’t the soldiers charities Rush supports return all of his contributions?

verbaluce on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I think you’re referring to Hannity’s support for the troops. Rush tends more toward helping with lukemia research.

Perhaps you’re demanding that lukemia patients forego their research dollars?

You piece of crap.

runawayyyy on April 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM