Poll: Tea Party support on the decline?

posted at 6:01 pm on April 15, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Support for and opposition to the Tea Party are roughly equivalent, but, by a 23-point margin, the more Americans hear of the Tea Party, the less they like it, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

About 41 percent of Americans say they support the Tea Party, whereas about 45 percent say they oppose it. More troublingly, the poll found that strong opponents of the Tea Party outnumber strong supporters by two to one. Sixty percent say they aren’t interested to learn more about the Tea Party, compared with 39 percent who say they’d like to know more about the limited-government group. A full 50 percent of Americans say they like the Tea Party less the more they learn, while just 27 percent like it more. My age group accounts for a lot of the Tea Party’s popularity decline: Whereas 51 percent of us liked the Tea Partiers last September, just 21 percent of us say we’re fans today.

An ABC analysis suggests that the Tea Party suffers from the same problem that plagued Rick Santorum: It appeals to too narrow an ideological base. The same analysis also hints that the Tea Party, as primarily an economic protest movement, hasn’t been able to weather whatever improvements in the economy we’ve seen recently.

But I posit a different theory. The Tea Party really hasn’t been in the news much lately — and, usually, when the movement is mentioned, it’s by opponents who cite Tea Partiers in Congress as obstructionists. It surprises me that, according to the same pollsters, support for the Tea Party was at an all-time high last September, shortly after the president blamed the Tea Party for the lack of a grand bargain on the debt ceiling. That still supports my theory, though: At that time, Tea Partiers were very much in the news, either as the objects of Democrats’ criticisms or as themselves, pushing back ardently against the narrative that they were somehow to blame for Congress’ inaction on the debt and deficit. Since then, Congress hasn’t had a major showdown of any kind. Perhaps the kerfuffle over the payroll tax cut extension and Keystone XL earlier this year qualifies — but it wasn’t nearly as dramatic nor nearly as widely covered as the debt ceiling debate. The Tea Party as the Tea Party hasn’t been particularly visible lately, even though the actions and words of certain individuals associated with the Tea Party still redound to the Tea Party’s credit or discredit. A poll that queries participants on their views of the appropriate size and scope of government would give a better indication of Americans’ appetite for what the Tea Party had to sell — and still does.


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There was a great Tea Party in San Francisco, CA yesterday!

Several hundred Patriots joined the fun. Patriotic music…Melanie Morgan fired the crowd up…Candidate speeches…Flag waving…NObama finger pointing…Free-speech-astro-turfing…Tribute to Andrew Breitbart…Conversations with fellow Patriots and much more. It was an inspiring day!

Here are some pictures to prove it:

http://www.melaniemorgan.com/latest/2747-a-tea-party-for-you.html

Now if we can have this much Tea Party fun in the liberal bastion of SAN FRANCISCO, what are you all doing with your Tea Party groups?

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Good for them. Now when are they going to actually support fiscal responsibility and the Constitution?

Dante on April 15, 2012 at 7:56 PM

My opinion differs from yours, I think you will see it come back through the results. You really think all those people just quit believing what arguably could be called core beliefs? If we do not see the crowds I believe we will see it in election results, although there are still rallies going on.

bluemarlin on April 15, 2012 at 7:50 PM

The TP won’t be a big factor in this election. Why should it be? It’s been an embarrassment to the GOP establishment anyway. It’s demoralized — all of that for WHAT? You’ll see a big resurgence of the TP or something like it after November. A BIG resurgence, believe me.

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I have peeps in CA. I’ll spread the word.
Btw: Cruz for Senate!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Another negative of Kalifornia’s “Top Two” primary system is that in the state’s few conservative districts, two Republicans will win. And RINOs and Democrats will line up behind the most liberal Republican to elect Lisa Murkowski types.

bw222 on April 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:53 PM
You’re missing the point. The conversation began with this:
Could have something to do with the “limit government but touch my entitlements and you’re history!” contingent…
thirtyandseven on April 15, 2012 at 6:04 PM

I echoed the premise that some people are anti-govt, but don’t want their entitlements messed with.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 8:06 PM

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Pay no attention to Vyce. He/she/it is one of the more liberal posters at HA and hates conservatives.

bw222 on April 15, 2012 at 8:11 PM

I echoed the premise that some people are anti-govt, but don’t want their entitlements messed with.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 8:06 PM

“Some” is a weasel word. So if anyone is expecting Social Security or Medicare, or are receiving such things, they forfeit all right to complain about the size of government? Right.

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

the tea party is a bunch of selfish people who don’t way the evil gubmint to touch their medicare they just want no one else to have access to medicare after they all die off oh and they don’t want to sacrifice any benefits for the good of others, either. why anyone young would support the tea party is beyond me.

DBear on April 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Why don’t you stuff it, you left wing troll. Nothing you wrote has any substance. You are perjorative of people dependent on social security. You are too stupid and ignorant to know that medicare is forced on anyone who is on social security. If they don’t sign up for medicare, they lose social security intowhich they have put 15% of their income before taxes, most people for 40-50 years. It is you left wing librul dhimocrapts that have robbed the lock box. It is your type of lawyer that troll the airwaves for SSI potentials where they can strip some off the top. It is SSI that is killing the program. The lawyers and illegal administrative criminal judges that have killed the system, anong with their “suffering disabled” clients. You, the libtards have done this to us! Conservatives did not do it.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Never trust an MSM poll.. ever. They live to distort information to depress the vote among conservatives.. and to spread democrat talking points as if they had any basis in fact.

I always supported the Tea Party movement,..

Most Americans do, if you don’t load the questions as the pollsters do.. These ” do you support those Tea Party extremists taking your Medicare away?”…. Hell I’d not like them so much either..

You never see them ask such questions about democrats..

spoils the narrative they want to set up.

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

The Tea Party was supposed to focus exclusively, laser-like, on government spending, deficits, and debt — hence Taxed Enough Already. That was its appeal to fiscally conservative independents, moderates, and even some so-called Reagan Democrats.

The Tea Party lost that laser-like focus on economic and fiscal issues and was co-opted by social conservatives who wanted it to also promote social conservatism.

It may now be inextricably and irretrievably associated with social conservatism. Consequently is has lost much of its appeal to the groups previously mentioned, and also to many libertarians and libertarian leaning conservatives.

farsighted on April 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

They would love for us to fold our tents and go away. We terrify them. The establishment of both parties writes us off at their peril. Stay tuned for November 2012. It will be just like November 2010. Surprise!

jb34461 on April 15, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Here’s a tricky question question: Given Romney’s liberal-Rino record, if he loses in November, does that mean the TEA Party is Dead, or very much Alive?

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Judging from your other posts, you would really like that, wouldn’t you BB.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I have peeps in CA. I’ll spread the word.
Btw: Cruz for Senate!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Thank you for spreading the word about the importance of California’s June 5th Primary election for the Congressional races!

And I completely agree about Ted Cruz for Senate in Texas. I heard about him on Mark Levin’s show. I’ll do my best to spread the word about him too. Looks like your May 29th Primary is the key date for the Cruz for Senate race.

There is more information about Ted Cruz’s Senate campaign at his campaign website:

http://www.tedcruz.org/home/

No need to limit our activism to our local races when we all have access to the Internet!

As our Tea Party wrist bands say: Hold the House! Seize the Senate! NObama 2012!

wren on April 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Judging from your other posts, you would really like that, wouldn’t you BB.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM

As I’ve said before, I don’t much care one way or the other.

And you didn’t answer my question. Too tricky for you? :)

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

The close association with Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and some unvetted, unqualified and embarrassing Senate candidates (e.g., Christine O’Donnell and Sharron Angle) didn’t help.

bluegill on April 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

The Tea Party lost that laser-like focus on economic and fiscal issues and was co-opted by social conservatives who wanted it to also promote social conservatism.

farsighted on April 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

That is not true of our local Tea Party, farsighted.

Our Tea Party group has worked very hard to successfully keep a laser-like focus on economic and fiscal issues.

wren on April 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM

But I posit a different theory. The Tea Party really hasn’t been in the news much lately — and, usually, when the movement is mentioned, it’s by opponents who cite Tea Partiers in Congress as obstructionists.

But the TEA Party’s polar opposite has been in the news lately progressives communist, and they don’t like how they are being portrayed - honestly.

Dr Evil on April 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Why would the lame stream media report that the TEA party is unpopular but that Occupy Wall Street protesters are popular?/

Dr Evil on April 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

They would love for us to fold our tents and go away. We terrify them. The establishment of both parties writes us off at their peril. Stay tuned for November 2012. It will be just like November 2010. Surprise!

jb34461 on April 15, 2012 at 8:20 PM

I’m getting a serious four-corners’-stall feel from liberals. Every week there some new outrage or distraction while Obama diverts attention or bides time for a favorable event or the election. He’s an affirmative-action radical who too many independents thought would be a harmless relief from spendthrift GOP.

Fify years ago, if Obama were white, he’d be on a domestic-terrorist watch list. In 2008, if he were white, he wouldn’t have been elected. Americans need to put his color aside and run his a** out of the WH on a rail.

BuckeyeSam on April 15, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Some people really don’t understand the concept of billion versus trillion. Our dire fiscal problem took years to acquire and yes Mr. Bush was part of the problem. Thank you Mr. Bush for giving us Mr. Obama, Spender-In-Chief. What has taken time to develop will also take time to cure. A good start will be voting for Mr. Obama to have a long vacation, perhaps one of his SS members can recommend a nice hot spot in Columbia. Once this has been established, we may want to listen to fiscally responsible people, but first we must elect them. If this means a Tea Party backed candidate, then support them.

DDay on April 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Here is another fact for you younger posters: When you go to the grocery store (you know that grocery prices have increased a market basket price from $50 to $150 under the liberals) that elderly (over 65) person standing in line probably gets $300 – $600 from social security after a lifetime of work. That is before they take out their mandatory medicare premium.

That person did not have pension portability so generally did not get benefits. Pension vesting after 5 years is new within the past 20 years and portability is about 10 years old. If that persons employer goes bankrupt, that person geta a token payment from the pension insurance.

Now for us with less trust in the government, we saved, etc. Unfortunately, the government has set interest rates near zero. The last fed meltdowns in the stockmarket (not caused by greedy bankers, but by unregulated government demands) have left us with much less than we put away. That makes it hard for many of the elderly, who in your, all of your, moronic words, are living off the government. By the way, that old person pays taxes on his/her social security after already paying taxes on the amount paid in, before the liberals stole it.

Many of those old folks served in the armed forces in peace and war, so you all can have freedom of speech. The audacity of you, the outright disgusting ungratefulness of your comments, the unAmerican comments that these people should be denied freedom of speech or are hipocrites because they are on social security/medicare just makes me ashamed to post in this group!

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

“Could have something to do with the ‘limit government but touch my entitlements and you’re history!’ contingent…”

thirtyandseven on April 15, 2012 at 6:04 PM


The left likes to make out that this is inconsistent, but it is not. I believe in liberty and limited government. But people over 65 have been forced to pay into the Social Security and Medicare systems for 40 or more years with the understanding that the government would ensure they were cared for in their retirement years. It is too late to change the rules for these people. They have lived up to their part of the bargain and we must honor the promises our government made. It’s not okay for Obama to raid Medicare to pay for Obamacare.

That doesn’t mean we have to keep growing the welfare state, provide for young, able-bodied people, or let the government dictate how private companies are run private using overreaching laws and regulations.

Cara C on April 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Another negative of Kalifornia’s “Top Two” primary system is that in the state’s few conservative districts, two Republicans will win. And RINOs and Democrats will line up behind the most liberal Republican to elect Lisa Murkowski types.

bw222 on April 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM

You are absolutely right bw222!

People need to decide very strategically which California Congressional candidates they are going to support. And then they need to start ACTIVELY supporting their favorite Congressional candidates NOW!

On the positive side, California’s Top Two primary system might be a good chance to knock some liberal incumbents out of office.

For example, I think Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA) is very vulnerable to defeat by conservative Independent candidate Chris Pareja since the third candidate in this race is a Democrat.

wren on April 15, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Yeah, every body at the SEIU union hall says so.

dunce on April 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM

DBear you really really need some new material. Snore.

CW on April 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM

the tea party is a bunch of selfish people who don’t way the evil gubmint to touch their medicare they just want no one else to have access to medicare after they all die off oh and they don’t want to sacrifice any benefits for the good of others, either. why anyone young would support the tea party is beyond me.

DBear on April 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

…who cares what percentage of people don’t like Tea Party…you have the media bending them over at every negative opportunity…and look at the coinciding percentages of Liar-in-Chief’s approval numbers…it’s because of mental midgets like DBare!

KOOLAID2 on April 15, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I like the way you think. What if you were to tell a Liberal that oil prices at their peak in 2008 were around $135.00 a barrel and gas prices were around $4.00 per gallon. And today oil is about $102.00 per barrel and gas prices are around $4.00 per gallon. In just three years more or less about $33.00 has been lost. Probably nothing to do with inflation, right?

DDay on April 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Many of those old folks served in the armed forces in peace and war, so you all can have freedom of speech. The audacity of you, the outright disgusting ungratefulness of your comments, the unAmerican comments that these people should be denied freedom of speech or are hypocrites because they are on social security/medicare just makes me ashamed to post in this group!

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I understand completely.. I’m 52, on SSD with a complete disability,.. and a vet too..

and along come a host of Paul type libertarians screaming about hypocrisy because we’re on Social Security, when as you point out.. it was the only game in town..

Excuse the F*** out of us for surviving guys as best we can.. I’ve seen the comments about being a “parasite” or “leech”.. they ignore that when their grandma was getting her social Security, it was us who were paying for it..

and I don’t recall complaining or calling anyone a parasite.. do you?

Just because we in the older generations were trapped in a democrat rigged system, doesn’t mean we like it, or that we are against changing it.. I’ll give up my cola’s to help another retiree out..

Some of you libertarian types.. some,.. need to remember you won’t always be young and strong, won’t always be able to fend all for yourself.. you need to remember we put in decades of paying for this, in the hope we could retire someday without serious injury.. not all of us made it.. so before deciding to toss us under the bus.. consider how great we can be as allies, pushing back on the Obama smears about conservative hating old and disabled people.

If we can move over to an entirely optional private pension, disability system, we’re all for it.. but the change has to be gradual, and folks have to be eased into it.. because most of us have nothing else to fall back on.. the democrats made sure of that.

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 9:05 PM

DDay on April 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM

You lost me. Please elucidate. The government numbers crunchers tell us that we don’t have any appreciable inflation – I think because any fungible commodity that does show inflation is removed from the basket. Those commodities such as oil are reflecting the evil sister of inflation within The USofA of devaluation of the dollar on the international markets due to liberal spenthriftery.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM

If we can move over to an entirely optional private pension, disability system, we’re all for it.. but the change has to be gradual, and folks have to be eased into it.. because most of us have nothing else to fall back on.. the democrats made sure of that.

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 9:05 PM

First thanks for your service.

The GOP ideas I have seen floated have been gradual in nature though the Dems and their partners in the media definitely try to hide the fact.

In my opinion Vets should highest on the totem poll when it comes to the benefits as they are in today’s system. We should be taking care of our soldiers.

CW on April 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM

ABC News/Washington Post. Nothing to see here. Keep walking.

jan3 on April 15, 2012 at 9:12 PM

the tea party is a bunch of selfish people who don’t way the evil gubmint to touch their medicare they just want no one else to have access to medicare after they all die off oh and they don’t want to sacrifice any benefits for the good of others, either. why anyone young would support the tea party is beyond me.

DBear on April 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

and occupiers are made up of filthy vagrants, anarchists and communists.. where drugs are freely dealt, crime is rampant, and sex crimes a daily hobby..

You leftwingers really want to run against the Tea Party, go ahead.. in a side by side.. our grass roots people are decent normal working class Americans..

you have douchebags who crap on police cars..

I can like any Tea Party member easily.. most occupiers are something you scrape off your shoe.

They aren’t selfish, they are worried that they and their children will get stuck with your bill, a bill no one asked them if they wanted to pay, a bill democrats have pillaged for personal gain and profit..

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 9:13 PM

>>The Tea Party lost that laser-like focus on economic and fiscal issues and was co-opted by social conservatives who wanted it to also promote social conservatism. It may now be inextricably and irretrievably associated with social conservatism. Consequently is has lost much of its appeal to the groups previously mentioned, and also to many libertarians and libertarian leaning conservatives.

Yes. And the Tea Party is supposed to reach across party lines,
to fiscal conservative Dems, unenrolleds, etc. The social conservative stuff (unrelated to taxes and spending though some
say the two are related) can turn people off. You want to oppose
gay marriage or abortion, start your own movement..the tea party is
for fiscal stuff.

raccoonradio on April 15, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Country Boy, I’m pretty sure you have a strong grasp of the inflation situation. However, inflation is a dirty word to the government and will not be used. Buy anything with a deflated dollar and you will know inflation. As for the government number cruncher’s, 2 + 2, will either equal 3 or 5, depending on the desired results.

DDay on April 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM

The GOP ideas I have seen floated have been gradual in nature though the Dems and their partners in the media definitely try to hide the fact.
—-

CW on April 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I agree, the Ryan plan was very gentle in it’s gradual phase in of changes. There isn’t anything there to frighten retirees, if it isn’t demagogued to death by the media and democrats..

You get the picture pretty clearly, that because it was an FDR program, the democrats, and especially legacy media who have long worshiped at the temple of FDR would die before even considering there may be another way,… They have invested so much emotion in that being a perfect socialist utopian dream.. they consider changing or scrapping it for something better pure sacrilege.

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 9:22 PM

http://www.melaniemorgan.com/latest/2747-a-tea-party-for-you.html

Now if we can have this much Tea Party fun in the liberal bastion of SAN FRANCISCO, what are you all doing with your Tea Party groups?

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Looks like a nice time had by all.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:23 PM

the tea party is a bunch of selfish people who don’t way the evil gubmint to touch their medicare they just want no one else to have access to medicare after they all die off oh and they don’t want to sacrifice any benefits for the good of others, either. why anyone young would support the tea party is beyond me.

DBear on April 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

You are simply wrong.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:24 PM

bluegill on April 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Really? We controll the agenda. We will control you’re nom.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:25 PM

controll = control

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM

DBear you really really need some new material. Snore.

CW on April 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Agreed, second rate at best. Weak. Poor, poor little bear.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Good night to all.

DDay on April 15, 2012 at 9:29 PM

I can’t help but notice the absence of a reply from Vyce. Again who are these “true cons” of which you speak? ” true cons ” is a leftist talking point. Please feel free to correct me. Perhaps on another thread.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Good Night DDay .

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Here’s a tricky question question: Given Romney’s liberal-Rino record, if he loses in November, does that mean the TEA Party is Dead, or very much Alive?

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

I thought your question was rhetorical. Sorry. My answer to you is ask Schrodinger. Your question calls for opinion only. Why is that of importance; or you just trying to quibble?

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

I can’t help but notice the absence of a reply from Vyce. Again who are these “true cons” of which you speak? ” true cons ” is a leftist talking point. Please feel free to correct me. Perhaps on another thread.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

In my unimportant opinion, I define “True Cons” as pharasees. Only their version of conservativism is the correct one. They, as pharasees can pray and judge right and wrong, much better than old sinner whith the heartfelt devotion to no longer sinning. But, since true cons understand scripture, they should know which side the Christ stands on.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Ah yes, the most untrusted voices in news today…

ProfShadow on April 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

So in your estimation, insult or flattery, or does it matter in which sense it is used? Or by whom it is used? Do you know if it is a leftist talking point?

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Never trust an MSM poll.. ever. They live to distort information to depress the vote among conservatives.. and to spread democrat talking points as if they had any basis in fact.

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

This.

I can just imagine the poll questions:

“So Mrs. Smith, the Tea Party was associated with the January 2011 shooting in Tucson by the Pima County Sherriff. Knowing this, does this make you want to learn more or less about the Tea Party? Do you feel more or less favorable toward the Tea Party?”

AZfederalist on April 15, 2012 at 9:53 PM

The Tea Party is Dead. Fox News and Talk Radio killed it. They have proven to be nothing but fake conservatives.

dom89031 on April 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM

The Tea Party is inherently flawed because of its narrow economic agenda.

In the long run, the relentlessly hostile liberal mass media can grind down the reputation of any target.

What is the Tea Party counter-strategy to take over or at least break the power of the liberal mass media? There is none. That’s outside the Tea Party’s narrow scope.

David Blue on April 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I dunnow. I realise that “true Conservative” means much to each of the multitudinous versions of “true conservatism.” I just ignore all of them. I do use the appellation “pharasee,” when they try to gain some sort of special credibility through use of the term. I really don’t care what the legacy media thinks.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 10:06 PM

The Tea Party will decline in the long run because of demographics. Because of mass immigration, the demographics that are rising in America are not those that support the Tea Party.

What is the Tea Party plan to oppose demographic change that opposes its interests? There is none. That is outside its narrow economic scope.

The single issue economic common sense movement is an idea without a future.

David Blue on April 15, 2012 at 10:10 PM

1: The “tea party” shot themselves in the foot a few times running candidates that could not get elected at the expense of Republican candidates that were leading in the polling with the result being they increased the number of Democrats in office. That threw a wet blanket on the fire.

crosspatch on April 15, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Well now that we’ve heard from the establishment, let’s go to the tape, shall we?

This mythological account of the Senate races is a joke.

Nom de Boom on April 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM

The real Tea Party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euchulzekOE

dom89031 on April 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Pffft, do these liberal idiots think that the FNC Tea Party is just going to disappear overnight?

FNC outrates all other cable news combined by 2 to 1.

The FNC Tea Party is HERE TO STAY!

bileduct on April 15, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Well now that we’ve heard from the establishment, let’s go to the tape, shall we?

This mythological account of the Senate races is a joke.

Nom de Boom on April 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM

This is exactly why Republicans lost in 2008 as well. True that Obama had more independents. But if Republicans themselves aren’t willing to vote, then why should anyone else. I also remember it was the Romney supporters who were the most likely to stay home. Lucky for us, I doubt that’ll happen this time. But then again, it’s Romney.

The Republican Party’s establishment are making defeat a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you don’t vote, you make it not happen. Not the candidate.

MrX on April 15, 2012 at 10:46 PM

The Tea Party got pwnd…..

…..by the Lapdog media.

…..by John Boehner.

…..by Mitch McConnell.

…..by politicians of all stripes and spots.

The Tea Party died earlier this year after being demonized and it was left to them to pick between a kooky old Grandpa, and three various sized Progressives that all liked bigger government.

Same day, different clothes:

Conservatives are the gop version of the African-American and Homosexual lobbies of the democrat party. Just make them feel included and then throw them a bone every once in awhile and they’ll come out of their trailer parks and pie suppers and vote fer ya. Bush 41 did this with the “flag burning” amendment right before one of his elections.

We’re such fools.

PappyD61 on April 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM

…..and ABC can’t be trusted to wipe the spittle off their mouths much less take a fair poll.

PappyD61 on April 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM

This excerpt from press release about the poll is pretty telling:

On one basic economic attitude, additionally, the movement finds itself at a disadvantage. It wins
support from just 24 percent of Americans who are chiefly concerned about unfairness in the
economic system that favors the wealthy
, vs. a much broader 69 percent support among those
who see a bigger problem in over-regulation of the free market that interferes with growth and
prosperity. The challenge is that more are concerned about fairness, by a 15-point margin.

No journalistic objectivity here folks… just pure leftist/Marxist-indduced class envy!

E-R

electric-rascal on April 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

…the more Americans hear of the Tea Party, the less they like it, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

The arrogance of these liberal journalists is astounding. They have no sympathy for the concerns of those associated with the Tea Party; they merely want them to be good, obedient serfs to the state, with the likes of Obama at the head of it all. They trot out a poll as a tool against them. Nothing scientific about a poll, idiots. Your poll this October will be telling us that Obama is ahead of Romney by 15 points.

rickv404 on April 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

The left always claims: the Tea Party has disappeared!!

No.

Tea Partiers have jobs.

We’re still here. We’ll vote.

We now openly discuss politics in any setting. We openly discuss religion, abortion, economics, liberty, and, well, you name it….we discuss it.

We’re no longer fettered by social mores set and supported by the Left (and by RINOS)–mores established for one reason only, to stifle conservative thought.

Take all the polls you want. Your best chance is to steal the election via ACORN style fraud. God help you if we catch you.

Montana on April 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM

That part of the Tea Party that opposed Romney has disintegrated into everything the left claimed. They are nothing but hypocrites and the whole country can see it clearly now.

The lies are exposed.

The good guy won, in spite of the lies.

Romney is the most conservative candidate we have ever had. And far more conservative than any one else in the party. There isn’t one person who didn’t prove they didn’t have any real claim as a conservative, from Gingrich to Palin… they are all hypocrites.

That is why Romney won.

The part of the Tea Party that opposed him has been exposed as the hypocrites they are. They will not keep any power.

Fortunately, there are more Tea Party folks who realized it and either quit the hypocrite Tea Party or turned their Tea Party to Romney.

The hypocrites exposed themselves. Good riddance.

petunia on April 16, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Boy there sure is a lot of stupid nonsense being posted about the tea party. Clearly none of the liberals have the least clue what it was really about / who it really was.
It sure as hell wasn’t evangelical or Paulistinian/libertarian-socialist. Or any of the frauds that tried to co-opt it or leap in front of the parade, the way those Int’l ANSWER clowns do.
It was good decent working self-sacrificing conservatives, who want the government cut WAY back and as much out of their lives as possible.
And it was NOTHING the MSM said it was, certainly not violent or racist or anything negative.

The rest of your leftist dips posting here should STFU about it, you’re demonstrating your gross ignorance about it with every denigrating post.

rayra on April 16, 2012 at 3:15 AM

That part of the Tea Party that opposed Romney has disintegrated into everything the left claimed. They are nothing but hypocrites and the whole country can see it clearly now.

The lies are exposed.

The good guy won, in spite of the lies.

Romney is the most conservative candidate we have ever had. And far more conservative than any one else in the party. There isn’t one person who didn’t prove they didn’t have any real claim as a conservative, from Gingrich to Palin… they are all hypocrites.

That is why Romney won.

The part of the Tea Party that opposed him has been exposed as the hypocrites they are. They will not keep any power.

Fortunately, there are more Tea Party folks who realized it and either quit the hypocrite Tea Party or turned their Tea Party to Romney.

The hypocrites exposed themselves. Good riddance.

petunia on April 16, 2012 at 2:37 AM

well..

at least you got the names right..

Look I’m planning on voting for Romney, but the stuff you just spewed out about him being the most conservative candidate EVAH!!! is just stone cold laughable..

we don’t believe it, the mods who backed him early didn’t believe it, in fact it was his lack of strong conservative views which attracted them in the first place…

You got yer Romney.. be happy with that..

Sitting there on your hobby horse proclaiming all who stood before him liars apostates and hypocrites just makes you look like a sycophantic fool.. sickeningly so..

Why do so many of you Extreme Romney voters have to act the ass so often? NOBODY is as PURE as YOUR DEAR BELOVED MITT…

get over yourself lady..

The selection process is over, and you’re just peeing in the pool of goodwill Romney desperately needs right now..

If you by acting like an OBOT get just one voter to say..”screw you, I’m staying home”, you should get a check from the Obama campaign.

Get it through your head, being first in Romney’s line, doesn’t get you any prize,.. you’re of no more value than the last voter who decides to vote for him..

He’s going to listen to the voting blocks most likely to benefit him,.. and if the Tea Party can.. he’ll side with them as well..

he’s a politician.. remember?

Not Jesus Christ.

mark81150 on April 16, 2012 at 4:03 AM

I echoed the premise that some people are anti-govt, but don’t want their entitlements messed with.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Yeah never mind I paid UNWILLINGLY into social security and medicaid… o and the UI insurance that you dont see either ( know that the companies pay the tax, but its getting paid nothing less… so what.. just walk away from it? )

watertown on April 16, 2012 at 6:16 AM

The Tea Party is still there but they have jobs to work and families to raise. Politicians had best understand that the Tea Party is still there. DD

Darvin Dowdy on April 16, 2012 at 7:14 AM

My Tea Party has held rather sedate sidewalk awareness rallies since August, 2009, at the largest shopping mall in the country, King of Prussia, Pennsylvania.

Our messages have concerned spending, O’care, regulations that kill industries, government control; truly radical stuff, huh? One of my favorites is our sign (with news report attached) about the thousands of jobs already killed by O’care by the destructive 2.3 percent tax it has imposed on medical devices.

Back then, by careful count, the ratio of favorable gestures from the public ran about six or eight to one.

For the past year, this ratio has been twenty to one, and often far more. And now includes a sprinkling of black Americans every week.

Quiet doesn’t mean dormant. As we get closer to November, you’ll see the Tea Parties flex their muscles more noticably.

Louis
The General Wayne Tea Party

P.S. Anthony Wayne’s nearby home and church look much the same as in his day. He fought battles all around this part of eastern Pennsylvania, as well as elsewhere.

Louis on April 16, 2012 at 7:39 AM

I am a 55 year old retired law enforcement officer and conservative republican. I have not been happy with the “Tea Party” since a few people decided to use the ideology as a vehicle to gain some power. The tea party was, in my opinion, never meant to be an entity. It was an ideology that many of us shared and many of us still do. I am not part of any entity and will go to the ballot box as an individual in November in order to vote my conservative ideology. I do not support the tea part as an entity and would say so if polled but I do support its ideology. I don’t believe I am alone in my thinking so yes, support for the entity called the tea party is declining but the support for its ideology is still very high.

Certif on April 16, 2012 at 8:07 AM

I don’t believe I am alone in my thinking so yes, support for the entity called the tea party is declining but the support for its ideology is still very high.

Certif on April 16, 2012 at 8:07 AM

This +100.

The power of the TEA Party is the very thing that makes it so hard to poll. Rather than being some sort of manufactured “movement” like the occupiers, people who believe in the original TEA Party tenets (Taxed Enough Already!) are an unmanaged grassroots group with no central organization. Those who believe in the ideology are unlikely to stop having those beliefs, especially as we see the results of the tax and spend madness of the current administration. But they will look askance at those who try to co-opt the movement and make it a marketable label for whatever they’re trying to sell.

It’s particularly telling that the TEA Party is painted with the same brush as the social conservative movement. While I’m sure many TEA Party believers are also pro-life and anti-gay marriage, not one person I know thinks the two types of conservatism (social and economic) are inextricably intertwined. There is only one way they’re related: both economic and social issues are best decided at the state or community level, and the government ought to get the heck out of all of them.

AJsDaddie on April 16, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Two things ABC News:

Support for the Quit Being a Dumb Ass With My Money Party remains quite strong.

I don’t care what you call it, the ground swell for get your hands off my wallet is growing.

FineasFinn on April 16, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Certif on April 16, 2012 at 8:07 AM

The ‘TEA Party’ has been used by many politicians trying to latch on to its success. Your words are accurate. The TP was never meant to be a politcal party but an idealogy. I identify with the TP movement because it reflects how I feel/believe in that area.

The biggest frustration for me with the TP movement is that whatever is accomplished in the House is squashed by the Democrat controlled senate. There has not been enough focus on the senate races.

TerryW on April 16, 2012 at 8:40 AM

That part of the Tea Party that opposed Romney has disintegrated into everything the left claimed. They are nothing but hypocrites and the whole country can see it clearly now.

The lies are exposed.

The good guy won, in spite of the lies.

Romney is the most conservative candidate we have ever had. And far more conservative than any one else in the party. There isn’t one person who didn’t prove they didn’t have any real claim as a conservative, from Gingrich to Palin… they are all hypocrites.

That is why Romney won.

The part of the Tea Party that opposed him has been exposed as the hypocrites they are. They will not keep any power.

Fortunately, there are more Tea Party folks who realized it and either quit the hypocrite Tea Party or turned their Tea Party to Romney.

The hypocrites exposed themselves. Good riddance.

petunia on April 16, 2012 at 2:37 AM

People like you are why I distrusted Romney. You know nothing about the Tea Party movement and it sounds like you know nothing about Romney. You are the hypocrite, spewing hate for things you know nothing about. Romney did’t “win” because he is the most Conservative, hardly. He won because he was an experienced campaigner, with money, and the support of the establishmant and you know it..
The Tea Party movement in many states has helped elect people and brought issues to the ballot, many of which were passed. What have you done other than get on an internet forum and write glowing love letters about a man and hate about his opponents? Next time before you write something know what you’re talking about.
I realize you are infatuated with Romnay, that has been clear from all your posts. But the hate you spew has not convinced me he is the right man for the job. I am ABO so he will get my vote, but that is truly sad. I sincerely hope Romney is nothing like you or we are in serious trouble.

Deanna on April 16, 2012 at 8:58 AM

My opinion differs from yours, I think you will see it come back through the results. You really think all those people just quit believing what arguably could be called core beliefs? If we do not see the crowds I believe we will see it in election results, although there are still rallies going on.

bluemarlin on April 15, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I was going to post something along those lines. The Tea Partiers are still going to come out in droves to vote out every liberal we can. And that is the truth regardless of what some Tea Party leaders say/think. The Tea Party is not a real party, but conservatism on display.

jeffn21 on April 16, 2012 at 9:14 AM

You want to oppose gay marriage or abortion, start your own movement. The tea party is for fiscal stuff.

raccoonradio on April 15, 2012 at 9:15 PM

This.

JFS61 on April 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM

This mythological account of the Senate races is a joke.

Nom de Boom on April 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM

You can take your tinfoil hat off now. COD and Angle were nothing but loser candidates leeching off the Tea Party for their own ends. Your blind hatred of the GOP “establishment” has turned you into a fool and a sucker for every huckster and con man who says what you want to hear.

JFS61 on April 16, 2012 at 9:24 AM

More troublingly, the poll found that strong opponents of the Tea Party outnumber strong supporters by two to one.

I can believe this. You basically have the entire Democrat apparatus opposing the Tea Party, and then there’s the chunk of the Republican Party captured by the faux-moderates who have never seen a liberal policy they don’t like.

I don’t believe I am alone in my thinking so yes, support for the entity called the tea party is declining but the support for its ideology is still very high.

Certif on April 16, 2012 at 8:07 AM

I don’t believe this. I think the selection of Romney as the Republican candidate shows a significant part of the people who describe themselves as “Republican” or “conservative” have actively chosen to discard limited government conservatism.

I can’t help but notice the absence of a reply from Vyce. Again who are these “true cons” of which you speak? ” true cons ” is a leftist talking point. Please feel free to correct me. Perhaps on another thread.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

It’s just the latest permutation of “right wing extremist” and “wingnut.” It’s rolled out anytime someone criticizes Romney’s big-spending policies and other left-wing policies. It’s a fact-free smear meant to silence opposition and shut down debate, that’s all.

Doomberg on April 16, 2012 at 9:32 AM

But I posit a different theory. The Tea Party really hasn’t been in the news much lately — and, usually, when the movement is mentioned, it’s by opponents who cite Tea Partiers in Congress as obstructionists.

We had a Tea Party rally in Sacramento over the weekend and the Sacbee, which is our local paper, didn’t even bother to report on it even though it was 10 times bigger than the occupy protest they promoted.

JeffinSac on April 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM

You can take your tinfoil hat off now. COD and Angle were nothing but loser candidates leeching off the Tea Party for their own ends. Your blind hatred of the GOP “establishment” has turned you into a fool and a sucker for every huckster and con man who says what you want to hear.

JFS61 on April 16, 2012 at 9:24 AM

He presented actual data, in other words, actual evidence. Your rant is not a counterargument.

Doomberg on April 16, 2012 at 9:47 AM

I’m not sure what the sampling looks like from WaPo/ABC, but if its like sampling we’ve seen in the past, I’d give it a D+11. While I’m not seeing an outright decline as insinuated by WaPo/ABC, I can say there isn’t much growth either. Just as a casual observation, I think the Tea Party is pretty much static. Whether this is because the base is saturated or, as Tina notes, the lack of being “newsworthy”, it’s hard to tell.

It is interesting to note that while the LSM was bashing the Tea Party the hardest was when I was seeing the most growth, which seemed somewhat surreal. I speculate that being in the limelight, for good or bad, was beneficial to the Tea Party, much like bad press for a rock star sold records.

To say that the Tea Party is on decline is an utterly ludricrous position. While Tea Party candidates haven’t done well in the elections, there has been a noticable impact that has little chance of dissappearing off of anyone’s radar scope anytime soon…

…no matter how much the LSM wishes it to.

Turtle317 on April 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM

You had me, until you revealed that it was an ABC News/Washington Post poll. Then I stopped reading.

J Baustian on April 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM

He presented actual data, in other words, actual evidence. Your rant is not a counterargument.

Doomberg on April 16, 2012 at 9:47 AM

According to that poll, she carried 46% of Independents, while her opponent carried 49%. Not convincing in the least, as in a deep blue state like that you have to peel off more Independents and Dems than that to win, even if 100% of GOP voters vote for you.

JFS61 on April 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM

……Bulls*it!

try again later on April 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Here is some more good coverage of the Tea Party Rally in San Francisco that was held on Saturday.

http://fund47.blogspot.com/2012/04/4th-annual-san-francisco-tax-day-tea.html

The photos may give you some ideas for signs or themes that you can use at your local Tea Parties.

If Tea Parties can be done in San Francisco, it can certainly be done in your local community!

wren on April 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM

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