Poll: Tea Party support on the decline?

posted at 6:01 pm on April 15, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Support for and opposition to the Tea Party are roughly equivalent, but, by a 23-point margin, the more Americans hear of the Tea Party, the less they like it, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

About 41 percent of Americans say they support the Tea Party, whereas about 45 percent say they oppose it. More troublingly, the poll found that strong opponents of the Tea Party outnumber strong supporters by two to one. Sixty percent say they aren’t interested to learn more about the Tea Party, compared with 39 percent who say they’d like to know more about the limited-government group. A full 50 percent of Americans say they like the Tea Party less the more they learn, while just 27 percent like it more. My age group accounts for a lot of the Tea Party’s popularity decline: Whereas 51 percent of us liked the Tea Partiers last September, just 21 percent of us say we’re fans today.

An ABC analysis suggests that the Tea Party suffers from the same problem that plagued Rick Santorum: It appeals to too narrow an ideological base. The same analysis also hints that the Tea Party, as primarily an economic protest movement, hasn’t been able to weather whatever improvements in the economy we’ve seen recently.

But I posit a different theory. The Tea Party really hasn’t been in the news much lately — and, usually, when the movement is mentioned, it’s by opponents who cite Tea Partiers in Congress as obstructionists. It surprises me that, according to the same pollsters, support for the Tea Party was at an all-time high last September, shortly after the president blamed the Tea Party for the lack of a grand bargain on the debt ceiling. That still supports my theory, though: At that time, Tea Partiers were very much in the news, either as the objects of Democrats’ criticisms or as themselves, pushing back ardently against the narrative that they were somehow to blame for Congress’ inaction on the debt and deficit. Since then, Congress hasn’t had a major showdown of any kind. Perhaps the kerfuffle over the payroll tax cut extension and Keystone XL earlier this year qualifies — but it wasn’t nearly as dramatic nor nearly as widely covered as the debt ceiling debate. The Tea Party as the Tea Party hasn’t been particularly visible lately, even though the actions and words of certain individuals associated with the Tea Party still redound to the Tea Party’s credit or discredit. A poll that queries participants on their views of the appropriate size and scope of government would give a better indication of Americans’ appetite for what the Tea Party had to sell — and still does.


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Could have something to do with the “limit government but touch my entitlements and you’re history!” contingent…

thirtyandseven on April 15, 2012 at 6:04 PM

I’ve said it a million times already. The Tea Party principles are mainstream. A lot of people don’t see the need to label themselves a Tea Partier. Smaller government and a balanced budget is something that even some Democrats would agree with. I’ve been saying for a long time that those polls are dangerous for the liberal elite. To those at ABC and the MSM, be careful what you wish for. The destruction of the Tea Party just means it’s gone mainstream.

MrX on April 15, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Could have something to with it’s a ABC News/Washington poll…

idesign on April 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Hmm… looks like more whistling past the graveyard to me.

CPT. Charles on April 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM

**************** TEA-PARTY is MIA **************************
(sarc)

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I’d like to see a recent poll of what the public thinks of the Occupiers. Where is that?

Conservalicious on April 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I thought we were still dead? Did we get better? I did wake up this morning. Late.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I think these numbers sound about right.

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM

GOP Establishment killed the Tea Party – if you ever see them again it’ll be as a part of the Libertarian Party.

Establishment GOP can kiss our arses.

HondaV65 on April 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Nope, the TEA party support is not on the decline. Just today, I saw a highway sign for a rally toward the end of the month. We’re just getting “reloaded,” baby.

onlineanalyst on April 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Well there’s this

redridinghood on April 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM

And yet you still hear the idiots on the Left refer to the “Tea Party Supreme Court.”

Tea Party is fine. You’ll see in November.

EMD on April 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM

These are the same people who were telling us that the Occupy morons were REAL patriots and that there were no rapes, drugs, murders and certainly no arrests, all the while these maggots left every place they inhabited a cesspool of garbage and disease.
Just keep trying to tell everyone what to think according to your superior intellect and when November comes don’t be shocked when your predictions don’t come true.
Were here and were mad as hell and we VOTE!

2eagles on April 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM

What happened to the Coffee Party?

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

An ABC analysis suggests that the Tea Party suffers from the same problem that plagued Rick Santorum: It appeals to too narrow an ideological base. The same analysis also hints that the Tea Party, as primarily an economic protest movement, hasn’t been able to weather whatever improvements in the economy we’ve seen recently.

Say what? What economic improvements?

onlineanalyst on April 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Could have something to do with embracing a presidential candidate who made cracking down on porn a campaign issue.

Small Constitutional government!!! Sort of. Sometimes.

swamp_yankee on April 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM

I think… Therefore, I Tea…

Mothers Finest on April 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Taxpayers don’t need anyone to “support” us. It’s the other way around.

Liberals will not learn that lesson easily. But they will learn.

logis on April 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM

What happened to the Coffee Party?

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

It got creamed?

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 6:15 PM

1: The “tea party” shot themselves in the foot a few times running candidates that could not get elected at the expense of Republican candidates that were leading in the polling with the result being they increased the number of Democrats in office. That threw a wet blanket on the fire.

2: After the big wins in the House and local state legislatures, there is less of a driving force behind the movement. They succeeded in many areas so it is hard to keep a standing army after a war is won.

crosspatch on April 15, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Let’s take a poll…say, in November?

d1carter on April 15, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I laugh every time I read about these POLLS about the Tea Party.

Have no fear – we are out here in ever greater numbers. We don’t have to advertise who we are or where we are or answer mindless polls about it. We communicate and we can organize and be ready to rally with very little notice.

So let the MSM and Left wing-nuts say we are dwindling but they are just whistling through the graveyard. We are now seeing more and more young people in the movement as they realize the worst of what is happening impacts them the hardest and farther into the future.

DON’T TREAD ON ME……….

IlonaE on April 15, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Total crock…swallowed hook line and sinker…by fools only!

winston on April 15, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Well there’s this

redridinghood on April 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM

redridinghood:Boy,am I glad I used a sarc taggy on TP MIA!

Obviously,theres a News MSM BlackOut on Tea Party
Rallies!!!!!

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM

From a Patriot on another site: “Fly under the radar until you are near the target.” Go right ahead and underestimate us. So what?

indyvet on April 15, 2012 at 6:20 PM

The Tea Party must be high on Obama’s enemy list to rate this level of attention!

Roy Rogers on April 15, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Taxed Enough Already!

Only the people that are taxed support the Tea Party…mostly..

Electrongod on April 15, 2012 at 6:20 PM

This is the same poll that Ed Morrissey rightfully called skewed when it was first released over its sampling challenges – http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/10/wapoabc-poll-adds-seven-points-to-dem-advantage-in-sample/

It’s not a new poll – just formerly redacted questions from the WaPo / ABC News poll of April 5-8th – several of the questions held back so it can be milked for additional propaganda.

So, factor in the sampling challenges with those numbers – particularly the commentary from ABC News re the Tea Party in the Spring of 2010 and what happened in November of 2010.

Athos on April 15, 2012 at 6:20 PM

the more Americans hear of the Tea Party

??
So are the Obamidiots telling us that TEA Parties happened in some foreign land and people in this country did not know anything about TEA Parties until….this poll was done to service O’ssain’s ego ?

burrata on April 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

What happened to the Coffee Party?

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Buckshot:I think it had to do with there information filters that
they couldn’t decide on,er,consensus on!!(snark)

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM

I’ve said this over and over again, there is no “Tea Party.” It is a movement not an organization, no matter what Armey and Freedom Works or the Tea Party Express tries to claim. They don’t represent the movement, they may be part of it…which is debatable. There are still lots of people out there working to change things, getting people elected, getting elected, working on campaigns and issues. They may not be visible on the national stage but they are active on the state and local levels. I know because I have seen it first hand in several states.

Deanna on April 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM

To paraphrase a newspaper icon “If you see it in an ABC/WaPo Poll, you know it’s NOT so.”

IIRC, these were the same folks calling the Tea Party a ‘nothing’ to begin with.

GarandFan on April 15, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Why do you waste space on this? Of course a poll by the SLIMESTREAM media is going to come to this conclusion. The slimers need to stop telling lies about the Tea Party and sliming them, and then quit running polls to survey people who are never going to like the Tea Party ever anyway and who won’t say anything positive or nice about them no matter what. In other words–just shut up! And ABC/WaPo you know what sunshine-deprived place you can stick your poll!

stukinIL4now on April 15, 2012 at 6:25 PM

If the Tea Party were waning…Barack’s pollsters at ABC/WAPO wouldn’t see the need to do a poll “showing” the Tea Party waning.

Duh!

Rational Thought on April 15, 2012 at 6:26 PM

About 41 percent of Americans say they support the Tea Party, whereas about 45 percent say they oppose it.

It’s pretty interesting that after two years of the MSM bashing it, the tea party is still as strong as it is.

ghostwriter on April 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM

A bit OT, but a fetus has tweeted back to Sarah Silverman.
http://themorningspew.com/2012/04/15/what-should-be-the-rest-of-sarahs-abortion-tweet/

bloggless on April 15, 2012 at 6:32 PM

What happened to the Coffee Party?

Buckshot Bill on April 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

lol! Well played

ghostwriter on April 15, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Well there’s this

redridinghood on April 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM

redridinghood:Boy,am I glad I used a sarc taggy on TP MIA!

Obviously,theres a News MSM BlackOut on Tea Party
Rallies!!!!!

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Does anyone believe that there was a poll showing overwhelming support for the TEA Party…

… that it would be accurately published?

This is nothing than another “war on women”…

… The TEA Party knows Obowma’s record, and they are going to vote.

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2012 at 6:32 PM

The actual affiliation might decline but commitment to the ideals is unlikely to decline anytime soon.

Karmashock on April 15, 2012 at 6:33 PM

You can bet that the left wing media wishes this were so.

rplat on April 15, 2012 at 6:35 PM

We’re still here. We’re just waiting for Washington, (re Obama/Reid/Pelosi/Van Jones/Jarrett/Rosen et. al.) to tank this country, then we can step up, clean up the mess, and reinstate the Constitution to the lofty status it deserves and once held.

TulsAmerican on April 15, 2012 at 6:40 PM

I like the TEA party less the more I learned about it. I was a strong supporter and went to several rallies. The problem with the TEA party is the fact that it cannot figure out where the root causes of the problems are.
Way too many in the tea party have accepted that social security and medicare/medicaid are acceptable, not understanding how these two programs undermine any and all efforts they may put forth to tackle their direct goal of a government that lives with in its means.

Social security says that it is OK to take money from one generation and to give to another. This is only one of many problems it causes. From the arbitrary retirement age, while people are still capable of being productive, to the negative impact it has on people having children and then feeling obligated to raise those children to be fully productive adult citizens. This feeds tertiary issues, where if you are able to subsidize one slothful older person who is capable of earning a living on their own, then you can subsidize many other sloths who are capable of earning a living on their own. Due to the lack of need of people to have productive adult children to help support them in old age, many fail to have children and many who do are perfectly happy to hear the lies from the government about how well the government can educate their children for them.

These programs need to go. As long as the TEA party is not willing to confront the real destructive policies of our government, they have no chance of ever effecting their main goal of a fiscally responsible government. I will not support the TEA party in a fruitless effort.

astonerii on April 15, 2012 at 6:41 PM

ONCE AGAIN a member of the political punderati rises to the bait and treats a damnable push-poll as FACT, then goes on to vomit a 1000 words about the premise.
LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THE POLL SAMPLE, YOU FOOLS.

rayra on April 15, 2012 at 6:44 PM

The March Hare turned to Alice and snapped, “Who does not love a Tea Party?”

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 15, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Maybe the tea party just needs some Dr Pepper.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I think… Therefore, I Tea…

Mothers Finest on April 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM

And I drink, therefore I pee!

BierManVA on April 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM
—————————————

Does anyone believe that there was a poll showing overwhelming support for the TEA Party…

… that it would be accurately published?

This is nothing than another “war on women”…

… The TEA Party knows Obowma’s record, and they are going to vote.

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Seven Percent Solution:The Left is throwing in the kitchen sink,
at all things Conservative for this 2012
Elections….MisDirection Baby!:)

PS,go to the NC Dem Gay Scandal thread,he
has resigned,my linky at da bottom,less th
an 2 hours old!:)

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I think… Therefore, I Tea…

Mothers Finest on April 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM
——————————————–
And I drink, therefore I pee!

BierManVA on April 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM

BierManVA:Lol,I`m drinking tea now!

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:53 PM

From the survey report itself -

There are other gaps among groups, if not as wide. The Tea Party has a gender gap, with 13
points more support from men than from women. And it does best with 30- to 49-year-olds,
tailing off with under-30s
and those 50 and older alike.

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone April
5-8, 2012, among a random national sample of 1,003 adults, including landline and cell-phone only
respondents. Results have a margin of sampling error of 4 points for the full sample. The
4
survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with
sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y.
Analysis by Gary Langer.

MORONS. By including cell-phone-only, they’ve deliberately skewed the sample towards those under 30, the group most likely to have cell phone only. Thus skewing the results from the outset, despite their fraud ‘random sample’.

rayra on April 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Without the demographics this poll is just BS – particularly when presented by legacy media. Tina, please don’t publish more of these from known biased sources unless you also publish the demographics. Of course, if they don’t provide the demos, then you should note that in your discussion.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Well, it has been a long time since the TEA Party spit on someone important. /s

Peri Winkle on April 15, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Be careful what you libs wish for. If the tea party is in decline, I really am confused. The event I attended last night had 3-4 times the amount of people we usually see. And they were not in any way favorable towards the POTUS and his flunkies.

stormridercx4 on April 15, 2012 at 6:59 PM

… and by MORONS I’m referring to political pundits and bloggers that EVER accept a ‘poll’ at face value.

rayra on April 15, 2012 at 7:00 PM

The Lubbock Tea Party’s been co-opted by the Ronbots and the Birchers. Sane conservatives here would rather not be in a group that’s now run(here) by Jew-hating conspiracy theorists who think that their cult leader is the ONLY true conservative to have run for president this cycle.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Deanna on April 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Exactly!

The TEA party movement is amorphous and fluid. It does not need to be a “target” for the Alinskyites. That is why it is effective in a bottoms-up way.

onlineanalyst on April 15, 2012 at 7:00 PM

How old is the Tea Party?

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 7:01 PM

GOP Establishment killed the Tea Party – if you ever see them again it’ll be as a part of the Libertarian Party.

Establishment GOP can kiss our arses.

I find it hilarious that you actually believe that.

The GOP didn’t kill the Tea Party. “True conservatives” did. The Tea Party started as a more inclusive libertarisn movement. Then it got hijacked by the “true cons”, who INSISTED that social
conservatism be a focus of the movement. It got substsntially more ideologically right-wing after that, what with your purity crusades.

Vyce on April 15, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Who are these so called “true cons” ? What are they?

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Don’t see any crapping on cop cars. Must be over. Tea Party will emerge in the voting booth 11/12.

BHO Jonestown on April 15, 2012 at 7:06 PM

If ABC and Wapo say so, then it must be true.

The Rogue Tomato on April 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM

How old is the Tea Party?

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Bmore:1773,er,2009,if this is accurate!

I tend to believe,in Heart and Spirit…since 1773:)

The Tea Party movement (TPM) is an American populist[1][2][3] political movement that is generally recognized as conservative and libertarian,[4][5] and has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009
================================

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 7:08 PM

the tea party is a bunch of selfish people who don’t way the evil gubmint to touch their medicare they just want no one else to have access to medicare after they all die off oh and they don’t want to sacrifice any benefits for the good of others, either. why anyone young would support the tea party is beyond me.

DBear on April 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

The GOP didn’t kill the Tea Party. “True conservatives” did. The Tea Party started as a more inclusive libertarisn movement. Then it got hijacked by the “true cons”, who INSISTED that social
conservatism be a focus of the movement. It got substsntially more ideologically right-wing after that, what with your purity crusades.

Vyce on April 15, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Prove what you just stated. How many anti-abortion rallies did the TP hold? Anti-gay marriage rallies? ANY of those detested “socon” issues-related rallies? Who INSISTED that social conservatism be a part of the movement?

Honda’s partly right. The TP (which is hibernating, not totally dead) was “killed” through media slime jobs bought into by fellow travelers like yourself, coupled with the demoralization that came from having powered a GOP takeover of Congress and then being blamed constantly for having cost the GOP the Senate. Which wouldn’t have been won, O’Donnell and Angle notwithstanding.

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Now the issue of the poll stank to me right off the bat. It didn’t take me 10mins to backtrail the article, the survey group, the survey and analysis and find the description of the sampling method and find the mechanism whereby the results were tainted.

Not only did Tina Korbe (et al) not do that work, IT DIDN’T EVEN OCCUR TO THEM THAT THERE’S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE POLL. They just treat it as fact / reality and respond to it. Condition their reactions and behaviours to the false narrative of the leftist media.

rayra on April 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Since when do we believe wapo and any of the major networks. They have all sold their souls to the one…..

crosshugger on April 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM

There was a great Tea Party in San Francisco, CA yesterday!

Several hundred Patriots joined the fun. Patriotic music…Melanie Morgan fired the crowd up…Candidate speeches…Flag waving…NObama finger pointing…Free-speech-astro-turfing…Tribute to Andrew Breitbart…Conversations with fellow Patriots and much more. It was an inspiring day!

Here are some pictures to prove it:

http://www.melaniemorgan.com/latest/2747-a-tea-party-for-you.html

Now if we can have this much Tea Party fun in the liberal bastion of SAN FRANCISCO, what are you all doing with your Tea Party groups?

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM

The SENTIMENTS that formed the original tea party and the REASONS to be mad as hell are just as relevant today as they were “back in the day”.
The problem is that an economic and small government movement has been co-opted into one that…yes…supports the original objectives, but adds on the Santorum-like social agenda as a FIRST requirement for nomination and support for office. We get idiots like Angel and O’Donnel instead of more Paul Ryans, and Marco Rubios and we lose the independent votes and fiscal conservative votes and instead appeal only to the narrow social con base of the Republican Party that has always existed as a robust minority but never a stand alone majority.
Support for the Tea Party candidate is no longer automatic from those who first believed in and supported the movement. We’ve learned that the Tea Party stamp does not guarantee a good candidate and we’ll make our own judgements from now on.

camaraderie on April 15, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Do you know how the news media conducts a poll. “Hey cameraman, you with the Obama button on, what do you think of those dirty rotten tea baggers. Hey lady reporter who’s husband works for the DNC. What about you, station manager huh.”

mike3121 on April 15, 2012 at 7:16 PM

The Left is throwing in the kitchen sink,
at all things Conservative for this 2012
Elections….MisDirection Baby!:)

PS,go to the NC Dem Gay Scandal thread,he
has resigned,my linky at da bottom,less th
an 2 hours old!:)

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 6:51 PM

:)

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2012 at 7:16 PM

the tea party is a bunch of selfish people who don’t way the evil gubmint to touch their medicare they just want no one else to have access to medicare after they all die off

oh and they don’t want to sacrifice any benefits for the good of others, either. why anyone young would support the tea party is beyond me.

DBear on April 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

DBear:LMAO,Alan Grayson…..is THAT YOU!!
—————————————–

Democrat Alan Grayson Claims “Republicans Want You To Die” (Longer Version)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPpQ2MNaSDo
******************************************

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Who are these so called “true cons” ? What are they?
Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM
They have bingo night. And are probably telling someone to get their damn government hands off of their damn government Medicare.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM
Why no Canadian links?

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

They have bingo night. And are probably telling someone to get their damn government hands off of their damn government Medicare.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

No one seems to be able to find the exact context of that quote that became an Obama stump-speech fixture.

This is your Romney supporter, folks.

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:19 PM

The Lubbock Tea Party’s been co-opted by the Ronbots and the Birchers.

Same where I live. The Ron Paulians have taken over most of them around here and that tends to make most sane people walk quickly in the opposite direction.

The people who were previously Lyndon LaRouche supporters around here have moved to Ron Paul.

crosspatch on April 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM

November will tell the truth.

bluemarlin on April 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Same where I live. The Ron Paulians have taken over most of them around here and that tends to make most sane people walk quickly in the opposite direction.

The people who were previously Lyndon LaRouche supporters around here have moved to Ron Paul.

crosspatch on April 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Wow. Since when did Paul supporters become TrueCons?

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:19 PM
No context, right, there are hundreds of images of that quote on signs at tea-party rally’s.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

November will tell the truth.

bluemarlin on April 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

The truth is most likely going to be shown to be that the Tea Party energy and enthusiasm that was the biggest factor in the flipping of control of the House and gains in the Senate, along with gains in statehouses all over the country — that energy and enthusiasm is gone.

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Without the demographics this poll is just BS – particularly when presented by legacy media. Tina, please don’t publish more of these from known biased sources unless you also publish the demographics. Of course, if they don’t provide the demos, then you should note that in your discussion.

Old Country Boy on April 15, 2012 at 6:56 PM

That’s just it, she didn’t even look / doubt what was presented! Just accepted the premise and treated it as fact. GIGO.

There ought to be an age or experience floor for political pundits. Or at least a cynicism litmus test. This business is NO business for ingenues. Especially when attempting to counter marxist-leftist-gramscian claptrap. Folks like Ms Korbe are well beyond their depth and demonstrate it by accepting the Left’s gross lies at face value, by letting the Left define and constrain the narrative, via false presentation and political correctness. It is a losing game to do so. It’s DESIGNED to be a losing game for the Right, from its inception. When folks like Ms Korbe miss the mark so badly, they are failing to counter the lie, failing to educate their audience in the left’s methods, and actively do harm to our own cause by using the left’s premise as any sort of base of analysis or response.

It’s the political pundit version of the Grey Fallacy, wherein the Left sets the terms with a complete lie and leaves US seeking a middle ground with their false premise, thereby moving ourselves towards the Left’s territory for no real reason and at no real investment / cost to the Left. We yield ground for nothing.

Meanwhile Useful Idiots like this dbear clown post their bumper-sticker claptrap off the phrase ‘Tea Party’, speaking their lines with zero relevance to the nature of the topic or premise. Pure verbal garbage / clutter. Political chaff that obstructs or diverts any productive political discussion.

rayra on April 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Here are some pictures to prove it:

http://www.melaniemorgan.com/latest/2747-a-tea-party-for-you.html

Now if we can have this much Tea Party fun in the liberal bastion of SAN FRANCISCO, what are you all doing with your Tea Party groups?

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM

wren:Thank-You for sharing!love some of the signs,like:)

“Throw them all out” says this sign which shows
a donkey and a rhino:

And,the Lefty Occupy signs…..”F**K the Police”!!!!!

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:19 PM
No context, right, there are hundreds of images of that quote on signs at tea-party rally’s.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Link?

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM

In the same poll, a full 82% reported that they believed:
(1) America’s national debt is too small still;
(2) Obama’s greatest virtue is his modesty; and
(3) Elvis is still alive …

/

ShainS on April 15, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Same where I live. The Ron Paulians have taken over most of them around here and that tends to make most sane people walk quickly in the opposite direction.

crosspatch on April 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM

What are the sane people in your area doing to get organized so they will out number the Ron Paulians at future Tea Parties?

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM
Why no Canadian links?

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Rusty Alan:Good question,we are focused on American Politics,
and,in my Country,Canadian politcs is boring,I wou
ld rather be water-boarded,and bamboo shoved between
my finger-nails(at the same time)than pay attention to
it,oh,and it might be into off-topic territory to boot!

canopfor on April 15, 2012 at 7:29 PM

I guess the TeaParty in Wisconsin didn’t get that memo, it’s was rocking in Madision yesterday..:)

idesign on April 15, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Regarding why he left ABC, I think Jon Stossel said it best-“because it sucked.” “I was not offered a job by Fox,” he said. “I went over there and begged ‘Please hire me, I can’t stand it anymore.’”

redridinghood on April 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Lubbock County is probably the most conservative of ALL of Texas’ counties. A lot of races here are ‘right’ vs ‘farther right’-so voters don’t think that they really need to do anything.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

crosspatch on April 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM

In Illinois there was some Larouchie/Ronbot cross-over. Here it’s Ronbot/Bircher.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Such BS from the LSM. Try as they might they cannot make the tea party go away. The tea pary is not a political party so there is no reason to “support” it. The tea party is not running for election. Their main purpose is to educate so that the citizens of this great country will know how to better choose their leaders. Making stuff up is the sole purpose of the media. It is Constitutionally protected speech. It’s up to you the reader to determine what the lies are. Enter the tea party. Check them out if you need to know.

BetseyRoss on April 15, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Establishment GOP can kiss our arses.

HondaV65 on April 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM

You’re an Obama-voting putz.

‘Nuff said.

beatcanvas on April 15, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Establishment GOP can kiss our arses.

HondaV65 on April 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM

You can only speak for the ‘arses’ of you and the fringe you belong to.
While you were once a conservative-you are no longer one.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Lubbock County is probably the most conservative of ALL of Texas’ counties. A lot of races here are ‘right’ vs ‘farther right’-so voters don’t think that they really need to do anything.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

If the good people of Lubbock have their territory taken care of, we could sure use their help with Congressional races in Northern California!

Due to California’s new “Top Two” Primary system, only the candidates who win enough votes to place first or second in the June 5th California Primary will be on the ballot in November.

In Northern California that means several Congressional Districts will only have a choice between 2 Democrats in November.

Since California has over 50 Congressional Districts, the results of the California Primary could have a big impact on whether Republicans or Democrats win a majority in the House of Representatives in November.

If you don’t want Nancy Pelosi to be your Speaker of the House again, please help to make sure as many Republicans as possible win a spot on the November ballot in the June 5th Primary!

wren on April 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM

And I don’t have a problem with the tea party. I was joking around and you had a pink panty meltdown.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Let them think that. we feel as passionate as ever. Those of us in California need to get out there and vote in the June primary. With prop. 14, the 53 house seats up for election in Nov. are decided by the top 2 vote getters in their respective districts, this regardless of their party.

newportmike on April 15, 2012 at 7:48 PM

The truth is most likely going to be shown to be that the Tea Party energy and enthusiasm that was the biggest factor in the flipping of control of the House and gains in the Senate, along with gains in statehouses all over the country — that energy and enthusiasm is gone.

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM

My opinion differs from yours, I think you will see it come back through the results. You really think all those people just quit believing what arguably could be called core beliefs? If we do not see the crowds I believe we will see it in election results, although there are still rallies going on.

bluemarlin on April 15, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Support for and opposition to the Tea Party are roughly equivalent, but, by a 23-point margin, the more Americans hear of the Tea Party, the less they like it, according to a new when defined by ABC News/Washington Post.

More accurate.

Cleombrotus on April 15, 2012 at 7:52 PM

And I don’t have a problem with the tea party. I was joking around and you had a pink panty meltdown.

Rusty Allen on April 15, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Passive aggressive b.s. It seems to be a Mittfan specialty.

I came across an image with that famous phrase here, being held by a guy who looks like he reaaaallllllly is depending on that Medicare. Otherwise the images I see say something along the lines of “keep your hands off medicare…don’t steal from medicare to support socialized medicine”. Which, I thought, was Romney’s position. Right?

ddrintn on April 15, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Say what? What economic improvements?

onlineanalyst on April 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

The economy has improved so much that Bust Buy is closing 50 stores to celebrate:

http://pr.bby.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=244152&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1683036&highlight=

bw222 on April 15, 2012 at 7:53 PM

My guess is that the polling company oversampled Democrats and people under 30 to get the result that ABC and the Washington Post wanted.

bw222 on April 15, 2012 at 7:55 PM

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