Quotes of the day
posted at 10:01 pm on April 14, 2012 by Allahpundit
“When it comes to the Mommy Wars, the only thing that’s more predictable than overwrought emotion and disingenuous indignation is the fact that everyone always misses the point: it’s all about the money, honey…
“Whether you’re a father with a stay-at-home wife, a working mother with a partner, or a single mother on her own, the buck stops with you if you’re providing the primary financial support for your family—and that responsibility is often terrifying. We all have our wide-awake-at-3-in-the-morning nights, and no doubt Mrs. Romney has endured her share. But her worries, however grave, have never included the ability to feed her kids or keep a roof over their heads — and those are problems that regularly torture countless American women.”
“You’d have to be a monster to deny that Ann Romney has had a rough time of it these last few years. Breast cancer and multiple sclerosis? We should obviously sympathize and send her well wishes. But nothing about that should prevent us from also looking honestly at her background and asking how representative a symbol of twenty-first century American womanhood she is. Liberals shouldn’t sneer at the fact that she never held a job outside the home (if only Hilary Rosen had phrased it in the clinical, social science-y way I just did, this ‘controversy’ probably never would have erupted!). But conservatives have no business pretending that she represents anything beyond what she in fact is, which is a woman who was born to fantastic privilege and who married into even more fantastic privilege, and who simply hasn’t had to make the hard choices that many women have to make. She turns out not even to represent stay-at-home moms very well at all, and if Republicans think this little fracas is rallying stay-at-home moms to their reactionary cause, they’re deluding themselves…
“The Census Bureau studied this question for the first time (?!) in 2007, and the results were, to me, totally surprising and fascinating. Stay-at-home mothers, you probably think, are more likely to be white, well-off, proper, all-around June Cleaver-ish. Uh, June Cleaver was around 50 years ago and lived on TV. In today’s actual America, stay-at-home moms are more likely to be: younger; Hispanic (Latina, if you prefer); foreign-born; less well educated. About one-quarter of married mothers of children under 15 didn’t work outside the home, the bureau found; and fully 19 percent of that one-quarter had less than a high-school degree, while that was true of just 8 percent of working mothers. This suggests pretty clearly that a significant number of women who stay at home don’t do so by choice, but because they don’t have marketable skills—or because they can’t get jobs that pay enough to cover the cost of childcare.”
“Why did Democrats feel such an urgent need to distance themselves from a comment that was 1) accurate — Romney doesn’t exactly have much in common with the 75% of women who now work for a living — and 2) frankly inoffensive? (I happen to agree with the Washington Post‘s Ruth Marcus that Rosen’s only real fault, in the Anderson Cooper exchange, lay in forgetting to use the politically correct phrase ‘work outside the home’ instead of the politically toxic word work to describe the remunerative activity Romney didn’t have to engage in.)
“That the Democrats felt such a need to throw Rosen under a bus suggests to me that they, like the Romney campaign itself, are guilty both of knee-jerk cynicism in regards to female voters and of being out of touch. We all know, on the one hand, that there’s a certain portion of the population that feels not just left behind but generally dissed by what they identify as the evolution of attitudes and mores in our era: they’re the Sarah Palin constituency. But these conservative women were never going to vote for Obama anyway. If you widen your sights beyond them, the larger truth about American women (and men) reveals that the deep-seated attitudinal divisions that once underlay our great national drama over women’s roles, and over working motherhood in particular, are now largely a thing of the past.”
“When Ann Romney’s husband, who faces a gender gap in some polls, uses her experience and insight as a megaphone for women’s concern over fewer paid jobs, he mistakenly assumes that all women are fungible. Which was, I take it, Rosen’s original point.
“Although Ann Romney may be a fine spokesperson on some issues, the dirty little secret of angling for female votes is that while all women’s work, inside or outside the home, has the same worth, as Michelle Obama and Barbara Bush sweetly expressed, all women do not have the same interests. Women who work in the home do not have the same interest in the recovery of the formal job market as women who have to work for pay. Indeed, wage-earning women probably have more in common with their paycheck-dependent male co-workers on the subject of economic recovery than with household laborers such as Ann Romney…
“Women whose work consists of caring for their households and children don’t need to worry about being paid less than their male counterparts. First, they aren’t paid at all, in any formal sense, and second, unless their husbands take a male spouse alongside them — an unlikely social development — they won’t confront sex discrimination at their workplace. Actually, Romney himself, a proud member of the capitalist economy and of a religious minority with a history of discrimination, has more in common with female workers than his wife does in discouraging arbitrary workplace discrimination. Ann Romney huffily reminded her husband’s detractors that some of his best employees have been women. But they were his employees; why is he using his wife to get that message out?”
“Roughly 73 percent of American moms are now working. It’s not only how our families work, it is how our economy works. Two-thirds of American families rely on women as breadwinners or co-breadwinners. In fact, most American kids’ economic survival depends on a woman in the work force…
“Lost in this retro war of words is the fact that most mothers today work hard to take care of their children and at the same time, they have to work hard to earn a living elsewhere. Conservatives and progressives can debate the merits of whether that is a good idea — but it’s the reality in which most American families live…
“I agree with Ann Romney that ‘we need to respect choices that women make.’ But for many moms, the economic reality of their lives doesn’t leave a lot of ‘choices.’ It leaves a lot of hard decisions about how many hours a day they can spend with their children and how many hours of sleep they can miss to provide for them.”
“Rosen was forced to apologize, but she really shouldn’t have. Being a mom (stay-at-home or not) is hard work for most people, but the parts of it that are hard work, figuring out how to feed, clothe, and shelter your kids, how to educate them, how to keep them safe in a dangerous world, are things that don’t exist when you’ve got $250 million in the bank. When you’ve got that kind of cheddar, even the chores associated with parenting (stay-at-home or not) cease to count as work. If you’ve got a quarter-billion in the bank and you’re still doing your own laundry, that’s a hobby.
“But absent the pressures of everyday life for the average American parent, the actual raising of children, being there for them, loving them, whether it’s full-time stay-at-home style or struggling to fit it in with a job, isn’t work. It’s a privilege, and I think most Americans (excepting the entrenched culture warriors who would vote for any Republican with a pulse), when faced with the offensive notion that Ann Romney’s struggles as a multi-hundred-millionaire mom somehow mirrors their own, will be more put-off than sympathetic.
“That’s why the President and his team’s handling of this has been so wrong-headed. President Obama cast Rosen’s remarks as an attack on Ann Romney, but it wasn’t. It was an attack on Mitt Romney for fixing his entire policy focus on women around whatever he and his ultra-privileged wife banter about while they’re trotting around on dressage horses. If he told a crowd that he was taking her policy advice on something else that she knows nothing about, say, foreign policy, no one would have any problem with this sort of critique.”
“For the last many years, I have been the single most important influence on my children. Yes, they go to school (public school, yet); and yes, they both have thriving social lives; and yes, I’ve been unable to insulate them from a Leftist pop culture that is hostile to traditional norms and to conservatives generally, but I’m still the most important person. Of all the influences in their lives, I am the one who is most present, most consistent, and most trusted. I’m sure they’ll pull away as they get older, and they may even rebel, but I’ll still be that little voice in their brain, imparting facts, values, and analyses.
“I am the counterweight to the state. Therefore, I am dangerous. I am subversive simply by existing. My love for my children is a dominant force that works its way into their psyches and that trumps the state-run schools and the state complicit media world. Some mothers, of course, are entirely in sync with schools and media. They happily reinforce the statist message. But those of us who don’t are a powerful anti-statist force and we must be challenged.
“The Left’s problem with Ann Romney transcends her husband’s wealth, her (and his) Republican identification, and her decision to work for her children, rather than for a paying employer. The Left’s problem with Ann Romney is that she represents the triumph of the individual.”
Via BuzzFeed.
“But what she meant to say, I think, was that Ann Romney has never gotten her ass out of the house to work. No one’s denying that being a mother is a tough job. I remember I was a handful. But, you know, there is a big difference between being a mother, and that tough job, and getting your ass out of the door at 7 a.m. when it’s cold, having to deal with the boss, being in a workplace, where even if you’re unhappy you can’t show it for eight hours. That is kind of a different kind of tough thing.”
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Then you are happy with every comment you come across. That’s a pretty good feat. This is a discussion board. Do you really need a trademark? Shouldn’t your well thought out comments be your trademark and not a emoticon?
Where is this ignore button? It’s easy to say that one should use them when there isn’t one.
Plus, it would be easier to ignore what you had to say if it was more than “good post :)”. But you know this, I suspect.
kim roy on November 29, 2012 at 2:26 PM
The libtards I can understand. They’ve bought into the feminist BS and Palin’s roundly discredits all of it.
However, someone who professes to be a conservative or at minimum a republican? That’s why we lose. You think someone of Palin’s quality on the left would be left high and dry by her own party. You want stupid, look at DWS and Pelosi yet their party doesn’t pull the same BS that the Rs do.
Either it’s personal or she’s a moron.
kim roy on November 29, 2012 at 2:30 PM
LoLz..You are over analyzing this..This is a comment board that I have been happy to be “commenting” for a while..:):)
PS..The “ignore” button is at the bottom left of your keyboard..:)
Dire Straits on November 29, 2012 at 2:35 PM
I wouldn’t know. Let me ask my Gramma, she likes that show.
I watch Football Monday nights.
Meow on November 29, 2012 at 2:36 PM
Just consider me a happy warrior..:)
Dire Straits on November 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Not sure why it needed two posts, but okay.
No, I will stick with my original assessment and my unspoken opinion. Laters!
kim roy on November 29, 2012 at 2:40 PM
My cat likes watching TV too.
kim roy on November 29, 2012 at 2:41 PM
No problem..Carry on..:)
Dire Straits on November 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Well Big Cat Diary is pretty awesome.
And Lions and Panthers and Bengals oh my
Meow on November 29, 2012 at 3:11 PM
You’d think the Ravens would be popular too.
Mine likes video games too. Just stares. It’s good. It distracts her from clawing something.
kim roy on November 29, 2012 at 3:22 PM
rrpjr, none of the losers that backed Romney (Coulter, Hannity, Rove) are ever going to apologize. The response from the Romneybots on losing has either been silence or doubling down, by blaming everyone from Sarah Palin to Santa Clause for their drubbing.
Faramir on November 29, 2012 at 4:50 PM
and don’t forget rush. he kept telling us not to believe the polls. romney was going to win big.
fatso selling weak tea.
renalin on November 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM
Good God. Palin didn’t run in the primary but we are to believe that one, she is troglodite for having an opinion, and that her very existence doomed Romney.
Sure, that makes sense. The fact another so called conservative, Pat Robertson, who is a big idiot, still walks the earth, he too is responsible for Mittens’ royal eff up. Pat Buchanan borders on World War II historical revisionism. So we can blame Pat Buchanan as well for tarnishing the brand.
As for blaming the voters who stayed home. Excuse me, but it was Romney’s job to get them out to vote. He failed to inspire or even present a cogent reason to vote for him.
Faramir on November 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM
Yes, Rush was so damn clever, renalin. I’m done with all those assholes.
Faramir on November 29, 2012 at 5:20 PM
The GOP should escalate the war with the media. The media can’t do anything more than it already has.
bw222 on November 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM
Yes, renalin, Rush too. I’m done with all of them. I’m not turning Hannity on again. Or Rush. Or putting money in Coulter’s piggybank.
I will stick with Mark Steyn and Michelle Malkin.
Faramir on November 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM
Hey, if Sarah Palin is such a loser and toxic. Why is it the Mittbots are complaining now that the ultimate, electable (HAHA!) figure Mitt Romney NEEDED her to win? That does not compute.
Guess what, I have a feeling the inverse is not true – Sarah Palin wouldn’t need anything help from a guy who couldn’t even win his own state, or the state he governed…
Sharr on November 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM
Kind of like intelligent people trying to have a conversation with you?
bw222 on November 29, 2012 at 5:27 PM
Here is Obama allowing Mitt to walk around the Oval Office today.
Poor Mitt. If only Sarah Palin hadn’t denied him his victory as President. Why is Palin so selfish? Why didn’t she campaign for him?
portlandon on November 29, 2012 at 5:31 PM
Faramir on November 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM
yep. completely agree.especially Levin. the only one of the radio hosts that still retains his integrity.
and he’s a Sarah supporter too. two peas in a pod.
renalin on November 29, 2012 at 5:32 PM
i let you in on a secret. heres why i mock you. you know very well they vetted Sarah’s 30K emails and even the huffpoop http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/13/sarah-palin-writing-level_n_874790.html says her emails are written at the level of CEO.
meanwhile your boy is licking obamas toes today. did he tell you how they taste? LOL severely conservative mitt licking a guy who eats dog. sweet revenge for ol’ Seamus.
SP2016
renalin on November 29, 2012 at 5:39 PM
portlandon on November 29, 2012 at 5:31 PM
mitts so excited he’s peeing down his left leg.
renalin on November 29, 2012 at 5:41 PM
:)
Schadenfreude on November 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM
portlandon on November 29, 2012 at 5:31 PM
Lincoln fell off the wall.
Schadenfreude on November 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM
I see Mittens is getting his door prize, and pat on the back. I do love how the Mittbots are demanding that Sarah Palin should have hit the stump for him.
Perhaps if he didn’t kick her to the curb, she might have. But they can’t have it both ways.
Sharr on November 29, 2012 at 5:52 PM
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( rim-shot )
: )
listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM
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‘gill, I think you’ve got something against HARD-CORE evangelical Christianity.
listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM
I liked Romney, but his campaign didn’t fight hard enough, IMO. There’s nobody else to blame for the loss. Other pols aren’t the reason Mitt lost. The Romney campaign team bears most of the blame, but not all of it. The team underestimated the Barky GOTV machine, they didn’t counter Barky’s invective effectively and they didn’t present our Conservative platform convincingly and clearly enough.
Romney is a nice guy. He’s smart, capable and probably would have done a decent job of turning our economic plight around, but his campaign strategists did him no favors.
Are there other candidates who may have represented Conservative values and principles better than Mitt? Yes, but who knows whether their campaign strategists would have or not. It’s easy to say that if only we had a more Conservative candidate then we could have won. Maybe, but the strategy, timing and messaging has to be just right as well.
Slainte on November 29, 2012 at 6:44 PM
The Mittler Youth are complaining that Sarah Palin didn’t campaign for him so Mitt lost.
I thought Palin was irrelevant.
SparkPlug on November 29, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Nice post..:)
Dire Straits on November 29, 2012 at 6:59 PM
SparkPlug on November 29, 2012 at 7:01 PM
Sarah Palin. July 17 2007 We cant afford it, the Feds won’t pay for it, the general populace isn’t placing it as a high priority … can you diplomatically express that?! Of course we want infrastructure — and this is NOT a “bridge to nowhere” (that is so offensive), but as it stands today with the highest-cost bridge design selected by the Ketchikan community, we need to find a lower-cost alternative [if] a bridge will be built.”
“She’s very concise. She gives clear orders. Her sentences and punctuations are logical,” Payack said. “She has much more of a disciplined mind than she’s given credit for.”
to bluegill in case you didn’t want to read teh whole tingy.
SP2016
renalin on November 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM
WAIT THERE’S MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“I’m a centrist Democrat, and would have loved to support my hunch that Ms. Palin is illiterate,” said 2tor Chief Executive Officer John Katzman.
“However, the emails say something else. Ms. Palin writes emails on her Blackberry at a grade level of 8.5.
“If she were a student and showing me her work, I’d say ‘It’s fine, clear writing,’” he said, admitting that emails he wrote scored lower than Palin’s on the widely used Flesch-Kincaid readability test.
“She came in as a solid communicator,” said Paul J.J. Payack, president of the Global Language Monitor. The emails registered as an 8.2 on his version of the test. “That’s typical for a corporate executive.”
See gilled one. katzman went into it wanting Sarah to look like an idiot. he came out knowing otherwise.
your type is the problem with the gop. you swallow the lefts propaganda like a whole fish.
renalin on November 29, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Mitt lost and bluegill is acting like a little biatch.
We need Flora to smack her around so more.
SparkPlug on November 29, 2012 at 7:09 PM
You’re an idiot.
Solaratov on November 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM
AND SHE DIDN’T RUN!
Solaratov on November 29, 2012 at 8:24 PM
At least Romney had the stones to get into the arena…
Sarah…not so much.
[And she won't enter the arena in 2016, either.]
Solaratov on November 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM
and your point is…..
idesign on November 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM
and your point is….
idesign on November 29, 2012 at 8:37 PM
There’s such a thing as discretion being better part of valor and taking one’s self out of the equation, when you’d not only being fighting Obama but the GOP party elite. In this case, letting Romney fail was probably the wiser choice on her part. Now the GOP elite own the failure – Or they should, but they’ll pull an Obama when it comes to this sort of thing.
Though, explaining this to the Mitt is our savior crowd is a waste of time.
Sharr on November 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM
I bet she does, now that she has an object lesson to point to her GOP detractors in doing the same dumb thing over and over gets a bad result. In any event its entirely HER CHOICE. It was pretty clear on election night she was horrified by what was taking place.
Sharr on November 29, 2012 at 9:07 PM
And then there’s Elaine Lafferty, a democrat and former Editor of Ms. Magazine, who got tired of hearing the second-hand sludge written about Palin and called her up and asked for an interview. Lafferty met her and wrote a piece that earned her the bile of just about every leftist in the world as she concluded that Palin was “a brainiac”… “I’d heard rumors around the campaign of her photographic memory and, frankly, I watched it in action. She sees. She processes. She questions, and only then, she acts.”
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2011/09/sarah-palin-a-brainiac-thoughtful-knows-who-she-is-her-time-will-come/
rrpjr on November 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM
In order to have stones there needs to be some considerable risk. What did he risk? He’s only slightly less super rich than before. That’s the result. I’d be more impressed if, say, he had to stand up to accusations of being an accomplice in a killing spree with zero support from his party. I mean really. He didn’t have to deal with half the crap Palin did.
Dongemaharu on November 29, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Maybe Obama was trying to get pointers on how to kill people’s wives after cutting off their healthcare and masking it as a “wait list”.
It is really just one big country club, isn’t it?
kim roy on November 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM
What Dongemaharu said. Oh yeah, it really takes the stones to bask in all that Mr Electability Only Adult In The Room Death Star bullshit for 4 years and then become this cycle’s designated GOP Gracious Loser complete with photo ops with Obama a few weeks later. As for 2016, who knows? It sure as hell won’t be Mr Electability next time around. Which GOPe mannequin are you going to pimp? Decisions, decisions. Show some stones yourself and commit before the groupthink sets in, will ya?
ddrintn on November 29, 2012 at 9:59 PM
‘No Regrets, Baby’
At least this idiot had the guts to say it aloud. It’s what our brilliant ‘conservative’ pundit class implicitly sez…instead of taking responsibility for their idiocy in supporting a loser like Romney (who lil’ ol’ me and a lotta other people without fancy blogs, radio shows or consultant positions were able to figure out would lose and lose big to Obama), they blame Mexicans, they blame food stamp queens, they blame social conservatives…
Of course, these same s*&t-for-brains ‘conservatives’ don’t blame people like Obama’s Wall Street supporters, his wealthy 8-out-of-10 supporters and his ‘urban educated and well-off’ supporters, because given the economic libertarian idiocy that has infected the American right, we can’t dare criticize anyone with money because that would be waging class warfare…never mind that they’re using their money to ruin our countries and affect everyone else’s lives.
Short version: American conservatism is taking its cues from a bunch of self-indulgent, self-impressed, can’t-take-responsibility, can’t-see-the-truth dolts. And it’s killing us.
avgjo on November 30, 2012 at 11:45 AM
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