Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on April 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

“When it comes to the Mommy Wars, the only thing that’s more predictable than overwrought emotion and disingenuous indignation is the fact that everyone always misses the point: it’s all about the money, honey…

“Whether you’re a father with a stay-at-home wife, a working mother with a partner, or a single mother on her own, the buck stops with you if you’re providing the primary financial support for your family—and that responsibility is often terrifying. We all have our wide-awake-at-3-in-the-morning nights, and no doubt Mrs. Romney has endured her share. But her worries, however grave, have never included the ability to feed her kids or keep a roof over their heads — and those are problems that regularly torture countless American women.”

***

“You’d have to be a monster to deny that Ann Romney has had a rough time of it these last few years. Breast cancer and multiple sclerosis? We should obviously sympathize and send her well wishes. But nothing about that should prevent us from also looking honestly at her background and asking how representative a symbol of twenty-first century American womanhood she is. Liberals shouldn’t sneer at the fact that she never held a job outside the home (if only Hilary Rosen had phrased it in the clinical, social science-y way I just did, this ‘controversy’ probably never would have erupted!). But conservatives have no business pretending that she represents anything beyond what she in fact is, which is a woman who was born to fantastic privilege and who married into even more fantastic privilege, and who simply hasn’t had to make the hard choices that many women have to make. She turns out not even to represent stay-at-home moms very well at all, and if Republicans think this little fracas is rallying stay-at-home moms to their reactionary cause, they’re deluding themselves…

“The Census Bureau studied this question for the first time (?!) in 2007, and the results were, to me, totally surprising and fascinating. Stay-at-home mothers, you probably think, are more likely to be white, well-off, proper, all-around June Cleaver-ish. Uh, June Cleaver was around 50 years ago and lived on TV. In today’s actual America, stay-at-home moms are more likely to be: younger; Hispanic (Latina, if you prefer); foreign-born; less well educated. About one-quarter of married mothers of children under 15 didn’t work outside the home, the bureau found; and fully 19 percent of that one-quarter had less than a high-school degree, while that was true of just 8 percent of working mothers. This suggests pretty clearly that a significant number of women who stay at home don’t do so by choice, but because they don’t have marketable skills—or because they can’t get jobs that pay enough to cover the cost of childcare.”

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“Why did Democrats feel such an urgent need to distance themselves from a comment that was 1) accurate — Romney doesn’t exactly have much in common with the 75% of women who now work for a living — and 2) frankly inoffensive? (I happen to agree with the Washington Post‘s Ruth Marcus that Rosen’s only real fault, in the Anderson Cooper exchange, lay in forgetting to use the politically correct phrase ‘work outside the home’ instead of the politically toxic word work to describe the remunerative activity Romney didn’t have to engage in.)

“That the Democrats felt such a need to throw Rosen under a bus suggests to me that they, like the Romney campaign itself, are guilty both of knee-jerk cynicism in regards to female voters and of being out of touch. We all know, on the one hand, that there’s a certain portion of the population that feels not just left behind but generally dissed by what they identify as the evolution of attitudes and mores in our era: they’re the Sarah Palin constituency. But these conservative women were never going to vote for Obama anyway. If you widen your sights beyond them, the larger truth about American women (and men) reveals that the deep-seated attitudinal divisions that once underlay our great national drama over women’s roles, and over working motherhood in particular, are now largely a thing of the past.”

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“When Ann Romney’s husband, who faces a gender gap in some polls, uses her experience and insight as a megaphone for women’s concern over fewer paid jobs, he mistakenly assumes that all women are fungible. Which was, I take it, Rosen’s original point.

“Although Ann Romney may be a fine spokesperson on some issues, the dirty little secret of angling for female votes is that while all women’s work, inside or outside the home, has the same worth, as Michelle Obama and Barbara Bush sweetly expressed, all women do not have the same interests. Women who work in the home do not have the same interest in the recovery of the formal job market as women who have to work for pay. Indeed, wage-earning women probably have more in common with their paycheck-dependent male co-workers on the subject of economic recovery than with household laborers such as Ann Romney…

“Women whose work consists of caring for their households and children don’t need to worry about being paid less than their male counterparts. First, they aren’t paid at all, in any formal sense, and second, unless their husbands take a male spouse alongside them — an unlikely social development — they won’t confront sex discrimination at their workplace. Actually, Romney himself, a proud member of the capitalist economy and of a religious minority with a history of discrimination, has more in common with female workers than his wife does in discouraging arbitrary workplace discrimination. Ann Romney huffily reminded her husband’s detractors that some of his best employees have been women. But they were his employees; why is he using his wife to get that message out?”

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“Roughly 73 percent of American moms are now working. It’s not only how our families work, it is how our economy works. Two-thirds of American families rely on women as breadwinners or co-breadwinners. In fact, most American kids’ economic survival depends on a woman in the work force…

“Lost in this retro war of words is the fact that most mothers today work hard to take care of their children and at the same time, they have to work hard to earn a living elsewhere. Conservatives and progressives can debate the merits of whether that is a good idea — but it’s the reality in which most American families live…

“I agree with Ann Romney that ‘we need to respect choices that women make.’ But for many moms, the economic reality of their lives doesn’t leave a lot of ‘choices.’ It leaves a lot of hard decisions about how many hours a day they can spend with their children and how many hours of sleep they can miss to provide for them.”

***

“Rosen was forced to apologize, but she really shouldn’t have. Being a mom (stay-at-home or not) is hard work for most people, but the parts of it that are hard work, figuring out how to feed, clothe, and shelter your kids, how to educate them, how to keep them safe in a dangerous world, are things that don’t exist when you’ve got $250 million in the bank. When you’ve got that kind of cheddar, even the chores associated with parenting (stay-at-home or not) cease to count as work. If you’ve got a quarter-billion in the bank and you’re still doing your own laundry, that’s a hobby.

“But absent the pressures of everyday life for the average American parent, the actual raising of children, being there for them, loving them, whether it’s full-time stay-at-home style or struggling to fit it in with a job, isn’t work. It’s a privilege, and I think most Americans (excepting the entrenched culture warriors who would vote for any Republican with a pulse), when faced with the offensive notion that Ann Romney’s struggles as a multi-hundred-millionaire mom somehow mirrors their own, will be more put-off than sympathetic.

“That’s why the President and his team’s handling of this has been so wrong-headed. President Obama cast Rosen’s remarks as an attack on Ann Romney, but it wasn’t. It was an attack on Mitt Romney for fixing his entire policy focus on women around whatever he and his ultra-privileged wife banter about while they’re trotting around on dressage horses. If he told a crowd that he was taking her policy advice on something else that she knows nothing about, say, foreign policy, no one would have any problem with this sort of critique.”

***

“For the last many years, I have been the single most important influence on my children. Yes, they go to school (public school, yet); and yes, they both have thriving social lives; and yes, I’ve been unable to insulate them from a Leftist pop culture that is hostile to traditional norms and to conservatives generally, but I’m still the most important person. Of all the influences in their lives, I am the one who is most present, most consistent, and most trusted. I’m sure they’ll pull away as they get older, and they may even rebel, but I’ll still be that little voice in their brain, imparting facts, values, and analyses.

I am the counterweight to the state. Therefore, I am dangerous. I am subversive simply by existing. My love for my children is a dominant force that works its way into their psyches and that trumps the state-run schools and the state complicit media world. Some mothers, of course, are entirely in sync with schools and media. They happily reinforce the statist message. But those of us who don’t are a powerful anti-statist force and we must be challenged.

“The Left’s problem with Ann Romney transcends her husband’s wealth, her (and his) Republican identification, and her decision to work for her children, rather than for a paying employer. The Left’s problem with Ann Romney is that she represents the triumph of the individual.”

***

Via BuzzFeed.

***

“But what she meant to say, I think, was that Ann Romney has never gotten her ass out of the house to work. No one’s denying that being a mother is a tough job. I remember I was a handful. But, you know, there is a big difference between being a mother, and that tough job, and getting your ass out of the door at 7 a.m. when it’s cold, having to deal with the boss, being in a workplace, where even if you’re unhappy you can’t show it for eight hours. That is kind of a different kind of tough thing.”

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Haven’t heard of any serious injuries.

What are you doing, working?

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 4:52 AM

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 4:52 AM

No ..I am just hanging out..:)

Dire Straits on April 15, 2012 at 4:57 AM

Here’s what I’m listening to then..

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 5:01 AM

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 5:01 AM

I amire your choice..That is awesome picking..:)

Dire Straits on April 15, 2012 at 5:09 AM

Hilary Rosen Was Right: Ann Romney Is Out of Touch with Most Women
What Republicans and Democrats alike don’t understand is that the “mommy wars” are largely a thing of the past
By JUDITH WARNER

Judith Warner is the same weirdo who wrote that NY Times column about liberal women and their worshipful sex fantasies about Obama: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/sometimes-a-president-is-just-a-president/

She’s yet another liberal who doesn’t have a worthwhile opinion concerning anything.

Django on April 15, 2012 at 5:17 AM

Django…Gawd, now I remember…

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM

Did you hear about Robin Gibbs of the Bee Gees is in a coma?
http://australianetworknews.com/stories/201204/3477534.htm?desktop

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 5:26 AM

Don’t know if someone has posted this, but I love it…

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 5:29 AM

As much as I detest the weasel of a man, Bill Maher has a point…but only with older kids. When children are under five, taking care of them is non-stop plain old hard work. Going to a job is a VACATION compared to taking care of a baby (or a toddler) 24/7.

Once they’re older…meh. Not that difficult to take care of. There’s room, if the family chooses, for the mother to work at least part-time. Especially if the kids attend private or public school.

Grace_is_sufficient on April 15, 2012 at 5:33 AM

Women Have taste! President Beats Arizona Gramps by only 3%!

Bill the comic clown up there has a well trained audience of chimps who don’t relate to facts or words, just his tone and gestures. Fascinating.

Yes, Mitt surely has only 30% approval from women in some polls. Of course, women of discernment need some time to approve of a guy. Bill likely doesn’t know this because the women in his life lack brainpan capacity just as he does.

And he missed the joke about our Dear Leader beating Mitt by as much as 20 points. So..only 50% of the women approve of Dear Leader?

After signing prowomen legislation as his first act? And all the retouched photos and nice puff pieces?

And Senator McCain has 47%????

I love you females.

IlikedAUH2O on April 15, 2012 at 5:35 AM

All of these liberal rebuttals miss the point entirely.

The offensive part of Rosen’s comment was that because she has never worked outside the home, she is not entitled to an opinion on the economy.

All of these articles reiterate that point, and in fact, double down on it. Ann Romney is somehow “less than” because she has never drawn a paycheck like a man. Talk about being anti-woman.

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 5:56 AM

Grace_is_sufficient on April 15, 2012 at 5:33 AM

That is what I was thinking. I have an infant and a preschooler. I am glad to hear it gets easier around five.

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 6:08 AM

I wonder if Obama will give Maher’s $1M back now. I think not.

TulsAmerican on April 15, 2012 at 6:17 AM

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 5:56 AM

This is their line of attack, and it will probably be a persistent one. The “connection” with “normal” people. Bill Clinton was great at it, with his lip-biting, “I feel your pain” schmaltz. PBHO trots it out, when he isn’t being “Spock-like” for campaign season. It’s a hoot to hear BiteMe playing it up, being one of the wealthier people in the Senate. It’s as old as the hills in various forms. The “Who would you rather have a beer with?” line.

It’s pure, unvarnished demagoguery, but it works. Fortunately, it doesn’t work nearly as well as PBHO hopes, but this possession of “common touch” bit does help him. Remember daddy Bush and the grocery store scanner? Or Kerry speaking Fwench and wind surfing? Nothing new here.

MJBrutus on April 15, 2012 at 6:53 AM

Judith Warner is the same weirdo who wrote that NY Times column about liberal women and their worshipful sex fantasies about Obama: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/sometimes-a-president-is-just-a-president/

She’s yet another liberal who doesn’t have a worthwhile opinion concerning anything.

Django on April 15, 2012 at 5:17 AM

Worshipful sex fantasies about Obozo? That is downright creepy….

chai on April 15, 2012 at 7:33 AM

Don’t know if someone has posted this, but I love it…

lovingmyUSA on April 15, 2012 at 5:29 AM

Myles Kennedy, he!! yes!

Who is John Galt on April 15, 2012 at 7:52 AM

From the above link:

Michael Tomasky on Ann Romney, an Unrepresentative Woman
The Daily Beast by Michael Tomasky Apr 14, 2012
(snip)
“You’d have to be a monster to deny that Ann Romney has had a rough time of it these last few years. Breast cancer and multiple sclerosis? We should obviously sympathize and send her well wishes. But nothing about that should prevent us from also looking honestly at her background and asking how representative a symbol of twenty-first century American womanhood she is.
(snip)
But conservatives have no business pretending that she represents anything beyond what she in fact is, which is a woman who was born to fantastic privilege and who married into even more fantastic privilege, and who simply hasn’t had to make the hard choices that many women have to make.
(snip)
http://tinyurl.com/7pbottt

I’m afraid I must agree. The facts bear that out.
1.) This business about being ill should not exempt anyone campaigning from criticism,
2.) Mrs. Romney, like other Stepford wives, may have been forbidden to work outside the home (if Mittens weren’t filthy rich) by hubbies who treat them like chattel,
3.) Just think, all that time at home with her FIVE SONS and she didn’t instill in them a sense of patriotism? I bet they can add up all of daddies money though,
4.) MOST stay at home (or single) moms struggle for one reason or another.

Mittens’ distaff side is as unlikeable as he is.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on April 15, 2012 at 8:07 AM

The offensive part of Rosen’s comment was that because she has never worked outside the home, she is not entitled to an opinion on the economy.

All of these articles reiterate that point, and in fact, double down on it. Ann Romney is somehow “less than” because she has never drawn a paycheck like a man. Talk about being anti-woman.

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 5:56 AM

I’d bet the north forty that Ann Romney never balanced a checkbook in her life.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on April 15, 2012 at 8:12 AM

I see Judith Warner and other feminazis keep digging . . .

WannabeAnglican on April 15, 2012 at 8:20 AM

All of these liberal rebuttals miss the point entirely.

The offensive part of Rosen’s comment was that because she has never worked outside the home, she is not entitled to an opinion on the economy.

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 5:56 AM

I’d like Rosen to explain why some people are not entitled to be concerned about the economy, which impacts everyone, whether they draw a paycheck or not.

Do her children and grandchildren not have to make their way through an America that is heading over a cliff? Is there no one she cares about who is not a millionaire or who is anticipating living here over the next few decades?

disa on April 15, 2012 at 8:26 AM

LIBERALS – NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT MONEY. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY.

disa on April 15, 2012 at 8:28 AM

And, of course, Obama tries to stay above the fray. But you can’t be above it all when you’re in over your head.

That’s Obama’s problem: A chump who thinks he’s a champ.

EMD on April 15, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I’m afraid I must agree. The facts bear that out.
1.) This business about being ill should not exempt anyone campaigning from criticism,
2.) Mrs. Romney, like other Stepford wives, may have been forbidden to work outside the home(if Mittens weren’t filthy rich) by hubbies who treat them like chattel,
3.) Just think, all that time at home with her FIVE SONS and she didn’t instill in them a sense of patriotism? I bet they can add up all of daddies money though,
4.) MOST stay at home (or single) moms struggle for one reason or another.Mittens’ distaff side is as unlikeable as he is.
~(Ä)~Karl Magnus on April 15, 2012 at 8:07 AM

And these are what you think of as “facts”?

SomeCallMeJohn on April 15, 2012 at 8:40 AM

All of these liberal rebuttals miss the point entirely.

The offensive part of Rosen’s comment was that because she has never worked outside the home, she is not entitled to an opinion on the economy.

All of these articles reiterate that point, and in fact, double down on it. Ann Romney is somehow “less than” because she has never drawn a paycheck like a man. Talk about being anti-woman.

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 5:56 AM

Exactly. I hope Ann Romney will subtly change the conversation to this as she continues campaigning. Rosen’s entire point was that women who stay at home are ignorant, and their opinions have no value, so they should just shut their mouths — she told Ann Romney to “shut up and get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich!”. It is a particularly nasty kind of misogyny because it seeks to silence, devalue, infantilize, and objectify women.

Rational Thought on April 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM

In the case of Maher, he needs to be politically provocative because it hides from the fact that he’s a third-rate comic. Strip away the sophomoric jokes at the expense of Conservative women and his adolescent political observations (Cuba would now be a tropical paradise but for the embargo) and you’re left with a mediocre comic with a delivery system made in the Soviet Union.

Want this guy to go away? Focus on his miniscule comic talent.

EMD on April 15, 2012 at 8:43 AM

Worshipful sex fantasies about Obozo? That is downright creepy….

chai on April 15, 2012 at 7:33 AM

Either they believe that Obama is a Liberal stud (don’t laugh, these womyn are Liberal, progressive, feminist, delusional) or they think that he’s gay or bisexual and can be saved by their passionate lovemaking. Still, you’re right, it’s downright creepy.

Gladtobehere on April 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM

All of these liberal rebuttals miss the point entirely.

The offensive part of Rosen’s comment was that because she has never worked outside the home, she is not entitled to an opinion on the economy.

All of these articles reiterate that point, and in fact, double down on it. Ann Romney is somehow “less than” because she has never drawn a paycheck like a man. Talk about being anti-woman.

bitsy on April 15, 2012 at 5:56 AM

Originally I thought this too, that they “just don’t get it.” When the libs lose the argument on the merits they shift gears and attempt to sweep the whole issue away and pretend it doesn’t matter.

What none of them get is that their efforts to laugh this off are gonna backfire worse than the original insult. They are all showing just how much they really agree with Rosen, by working so hard to defend her.

Smart lib strategists will be sending out memos to shut up about this, but they won’t. They cannot help themselves.

dogsoldier on April 15, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Exactly. I hope Ann Romney will subtly change the conversation to this as she continues campaigning. Rosen’s entire point was that women who stay at home are ignorant, and their opinions have no value, so they should just shut their mouths — she told Ann Romney to “shut up and get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich!”. It is a particularly nasty kind of misogyny because it seeks to silence, devalue, infantilize, and objectify women.

Rational Thought on April 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Hmm, Rosen is acting like how she believes conservative men behave by acting to “silence, devalue, infantilize, and objectify women.” Imagine that, a Liberal behaving hypocritically. In other Liberal news, “We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.”

Smart lib strategists will be sending out memos to shut up about this, but they won’t. They cannot help themselves.

dogsoldier on April 15, 2012 at 8:57 AM

It’s worse than that. There is no other strategy for Obama’s reelectiion campaign but divide and conquer. They have to find a waty to make this work because Obama can’t run on his record.

Gladtobehere on April 15, 2012 at 9:06 AM

It’s worse than that. There is no other strategy for Obama’s reelectiion campaign but divide and conquer. They have to find a waty to make this work because Obama can’t run on his record.

Gladtobehere on April 15, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Exactly. One simply cannot overstate how devastating the loss of this narrative is to the Obama campaign. It is leaving a giant gaping hole there and they have nothing to fill it with. What’s more, as they keep trying to keep it alive, the Romney team will get better and better at explaining how bad Barack’s economic policies have been for women. The details in this WSJ article, for example, will be making it into a lot of Romney speeches and ads.

Rational Thought on April 15, 2012 at 9:15 AM

So, Rosen’s point was that, since Ann Romney hasn’t worked outside the home, she’s out of touch and can’t speak to women’s issues. Yet, Bill Maher — who, to my knowledge, has never held a real job in his life — is somehow qualified to speak about how difficult it is to get out the door at 7 a.m. in the cold to go to work, etc. Of course, he’s not.

And, if we get back to the crux of Rosen’s criticism of Ann Romney, it stemmed from Ann’s relaying to Mitt what women were telling her about the issues that are important to them. In other words, Ann was merely the messenger for American women (which I assume included those who work both inside and outside of the home). Ann’s not having worked outside the home is completely irrelevant to her ability to convey that information to her husband.

Syzygy on April 15, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Yet, Bill Maher — who, to my knowledge, has never held a real job in his life — is somehow qualified to speak about how difficult it is to get out the door at 7 a.m. in the cold to go to work, etc. Of course, he’s not.

Syzygy on April 15, 2012 at 9:27 AM

And likely never had any kids that lived. I don’t think he has a clue about what it takes to parent. Some of these people better hope that good parenting continues so that someone can pay for the welfare state.

CW on April 15, 2012 at 9:39 AM

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freerider on April 15, 2012 at 9:48 AM

And likely never had any kids that lived. I don’t think he has a clue about what it takes to parent. Some of these people better hope that good parenting continues so that someone can pay for the welfare state.

CW on April 15, 2012 at 9:39 AM

I gotta say, if ever there was a case to be made for abortion…

Rational Thought on April 15, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Whats fascinating to me is the mindset that says because Romney has money now, he has always had money. As if nobody who is rich now could have earned it within a lifetime.

Please look at some facts, heard Ann Romney talking about this the other day, there was a time when they were both in college, and they do have transcripts unlike glorious leader; they had no income, lived in a $62 a month apartment, used a door as a desktop, carpet remnants and samples to create a floor. Sounds like pretty normal impoverished college kids to me. And raising their first son.

Mitt’s father was CEO of American Motors, heard of them? This was before car company bail outs, they went bankrupt, dad didn’t leave all that much for Mitt.

He actually made his money the old fashioned, apparently unimaginable way, he earned it.

odannyboy on April 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM

A round up of all the worst kinds of left wing apologists. Tommy Christopher offended me the most..

You see it’s not that Rosen said offensive things.. no no,.. it’s that we cynical wingnuts all banded together to just ACT like we were upset that the leave the spouse alone rule, has once again been grossly violated so the left can savagely attack a republican spouse. You see we aren’t REALLY angry.. just acting like it for the press and the gullible base.

They always play that game, that we secretly agree with them, but purely for cynical reasons say otherwise to pander to the great unwashed who aren’t as sophisticated.. and able to understand that it’s not about money, or about privilege, not choices, or contempt for them…. it’s really just another excuse for the left to demonize any republican on cue..

These very same lefty’s denouncing us and whing about the Rosen apology, would if the names were switched, and nothing else.. be defending Michelle for the very same acts that they condemn Ann for.

The only cynics here, are the raging hypocrits on the left..

I guess Kerry’s monied bride as OK with them,
The Kennedy’s were all experts on everything.. just ask any democrat.. and boy they loved their money.. Biden’s got his pile to be sure.. so many rich fat democrats.. and not a soul among them spoke out against them for speaking their mind on the economy..

I guess democrats, no matter how rich can’t be out of touch huh?.. seems to be in their rule book from the start, doesn’t it?

I’m just sick to death of the double standards..

mark81150 on April 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Mitt’s father was CEO of American Motors, heard of them? This was before car company bail outs, they went bankrupt, dad didn’t leave all that much for Mitt.

He actually made his money the old fashioned, apparently unimaginable way, he earned it.

odannyboy on April 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Mitts father was CEO from 54-62 long before they went under.

RickB on April 15, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Mitts father was CEO from 54-62 long before they went under.

RickB on April 15, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Thank You.
Daddy then went on to be Governor. Nope, no perks there, eh Willard?
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on April 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Once they’re older…meh. Not that difficult to take care of. There’s room, if the family chooses, for the mother to work at least part-time.

Grace_is_sufficient on April 15, 2012 at 5:33 AM

Now that our kids are in high school, my wife has taken a part-time job. As it happens, the amount she grosses is very close to the amount the family pays in taxes.

Yeah, she works…but for whom?

PortlandJon on April 15, 2012 at 12:10 PM

And who’s gonna point out that, largely, it’s been policies advanced by Democrats and their constituent interest groups, economical, cultural, and otherwise, which are responsible for the development of conditions making it difficult if not impossible for one bread earner to support a family comfortably?

Cleombrotus on April 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

But, you know, there is a big difference between being a mother, and that tough job, and getting your ass out of the door at 7 a.m. when it’s cold, having to deal with the boss, being in a workplace, where even if you’re unhappy you can’t show it for eight hours. That is kind of a different kind of tough thing.”

Yeah, that might actually be easier than being a stay at home parent.

Metro on April 15, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Mommy war is such enormous stupid shrieky bullsh*t.

Yawn.

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Mommy war is such enormous stupid shrieky bullsh*t.

Yawn.

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM

So is the ‘War on Womne’, the class war, the race war…yawn, yawn, yawn.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Isn’t it weird that the Left won’t shut up about it?

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Isn’t it weird that the Left won’t shut up about it?

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM
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Not sure what filter you’re observing your own media with, but both sides are misquoting/misrepresenting/out-outrageing the other and both sides look like a bunch of tools.

Thank god Rosen put her foot in her mouth after Santorum quite or else the right would have had Santorum’s 1954 mindset f’ing up the golden opportunity that misrepresenting/stretching/twisting what Rosen said presented.

The fact is Anne Romney is a rich, privileged person. Can she make statements about the economy? Sure. They don’t mean much. Can she claim raising 5 kids is work? Sure. It’s absolutely true that that’s an enormous amount of work. But sorry, you cannot begin to compare her home mommy struggles in a mansion with plenty of hired help to the struggles of everybody else who had no choice but to work to feed-clothe-roof their kids. It’s just a moronic comparison that insults mothers who have had it exponentially/galactically harder than Romney.

She’s on your side. You gotta stick by her. Some rich Democrat wife says that and you ain’t complaining. I would call bullish*t on the richie Dem mommy just as I call it on Romney.

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Since Mrs. Romney was only remarking on what women were discussing with her on the trail, I am at a loss as to why Ms. Rosen made her remark in the first place. Mrs. Romney was not offering any compare and contrast. But after months of focusing on the very odd issue of contraceptives (initiated by George Stephanopolous(sic) in an early debate) it’s nice to see the maneuver backfire. Don’t worry, the Republicans will be caught in their stupidity again before you know it. I wonder why The Won doesn’t want to talk about the economy?

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Have Gov. and Mrs. Romney always lived in mansions?

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Since Mrs. Romney was only remarking on what women were discussing with her on the trail, I am at a loss as to why Ms. Rosen made her remark in the first place. Mrs. Romney was not offering any compare and contrast. But after months of focusing on the very odd issue of contraceptives (initiated by George Stephanopolous(sic) in an early debate) it’s nice to see the maneuver backfire. Don’t worry, the Republicans will be caught in their stupidity again before you know it. I wonder why The Won doesn’t want to talk about the economy?

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM
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Obama talks about the economy every time they trumpet out a bunch of manipulated job growth numbers that turn positive but barely positive economic news into wow the ship has turned around yayyy numbers.

As for mansions, uh, yeah, they both had privileged and financially worry-free upbringings.

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM

I won’t pretend to know much about them but it seemed that I read that they accepted nor expected help from their parents and that they started out in a small apartment. I am sure being raised in a worry free financial upbringing is helpful but I was raised in a poor family (including bankruptcy) but I was unaware and felt safe and happy.

Cindy Munford on April 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM

“Not sure what filter you’re observing your own media with, but both sides are misquoting/misrepresenting/out-outrageing the other and both sides look like a bunch of tools.”

Every single time the left’s sleazy, stupid schemes blow up in their faces, they claim, “But everybody does it!”

Tu quoque is the left’s “value system,” if they can even be said to have values.

Django on April 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Given the current sfate of.political correctness and the corruption of our legal system id say a woman’s career is infinitely easier.than being.a.stay at.home mom.

tom daschle concerned on April 15, 2012 at 2:59 PM

“Not sure what filter you’re observing your own media with, but both sides are misquoting/misrepresenting/out-outrageing the other and both sides look like a bunch of tools.”

Every single time the left’s sleazy, stupid schemes blow up in their faces, they claim, “But everybody does it!”

Tu quoque is the left’s “value system,” if they can even be said to have values.

Django on April 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM
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Ha ha ha give your head a shake – both sides troll each other, both sides out-outrage each other, both sides spew the misquoted/twisted/manipulated/out of context crap. So spare me.

I call bullsh*t on both sides, you don’t.

why is that

By cherry picking and generally being an obtuse a-hole I could build a case that neither side has any
morals whatsoever. But that would be stupid and pointless – much like way too much of the internet b*tching that passes for political dialogue in your country. Both sides have general positions on subject that the other side finds abhorrent, and they pounce on those positions and say stupid things like, say, “if they can even be said to have values.”

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Bill Maher is a cun*.

DRywall on April 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Clarity is more important than agreement. Thanks for the non-partisan clarity, Dave.

Jaibones on April 15, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Bill Maher is a cun*.

DRywall on April 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Clarity is more important than agreement. Thanks for the non-partisan clarity, Dave.

Jaibones on April 15, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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Ah, i see what you failed to do there

Dave Rywall on April 15, 2012 at 4:33 PM

I’d bet the north forty that Ann Romney never balanced a checkbook in her life.
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Karl Magnus on April 15, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Neither could my ex-husbands and a whole lot of men I know. Guess what? Their stay at home wives do/did that for them. LOL

Deanna on April 15, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Dave who?

Bmore on April 15, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Come on, Obama HAS to give back Maher’s money for this stuff….

Wagthatdog on April 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM

… no doubt Mrs. Romney has endured her share. But her worries, however grave, have never included the ability to feed her kids or keep a roof over their heads — and those are problems that regularly torture countless American women.”

Since when did countless American women become characters in the “Grapes of Wrath” ? Being an American women – mother and business owner – I find this insulting.

exliberal on April 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM

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