Chu: We don’t understand the “bumps and wiggles” of climate change, but oh yes, it’s happening

posted at 12:46 pm on April 12, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The Obama administration was more vocal about the supposedly dire need to combat climate change toward the beginning of their oh-so-eminent reign, with President Obama out championing the cause at such august events as the U.N. climate conference in 2009. There’s been a bit of a lull in their alarmist-enthusiasm rhetoric in the past year or so (maybe they’ve figured out that concern for climate change is a luxury good during times of economic recession), but it looks like they may be thinking about bringing back the meme to help sell their horrendous energy polices in the run-up to November.

Energy Secretary Steven Chu said Wednesday that scientific evidence of climate change is getting more and more powerful, comments that come as global warming legislation remains moribund in Congress and Environmental Protection regulations are facing ongoing GOP assaults.

“Over the last couple of years, the dispassionate, hard science evidence has been mounting, increasing,” said Chu, speaking at an energy forum hosted by The New York Times.

Chu noted that “we don’t understand everything” and that in past years scientists have actually underestimated the pace of some changes, including sea level rise.

“It is rising even faster than we thought. The number of violent rainstorms have increased faster than we thought,” he said at the event in New York, adding that though there are “bumps and wiggles” that are not understood, trends are clear in the long term.

Funny — I thought the rising sea levels were supposed to have wiped out polar bears by  now, or something?

For what feels like the umpteenth time: nobody is denying that climate change exists. Planet earth is not and never has been a static place. But is human activity contributing to climate change at an exponentially unsustainable rate, hurtling the world toward unprecedented large-scale catastrophe? Hmm…

During a speech at Tufts’ law school last month, Sen. John Kerry voiced his consternation with what he called the “flat-earth caucus” of the U.S. Congress constantly standing in the way of President Obama’s environmentalist ambitions. “You can’t talk about climate now,” Kerry lamented. “People just turn off. It’s extraordinary. Only for national security and jobs will they open their minds. …The irony is that we used to be a nation that valued science. We have become a nation that is now discarding science.”

Well, guilty as charged! Yes, conservatives are finally vocalizing the idea that ‘science’ is not a sacred cow immune from politics, but rather that science is perfectly capable of being corrupted and is governed by a set of incentives. Incentives such as – oh, I don’t know – chasing government grants and lobbyist money, perhaps? And boring, non-catastrophic science doesn’t rank highly on the government-handout to-do list, as it doesn’t whip the public into the suitable frenzy. Contrary to the doomsayers’ claims, more and more “heretics” are emerging from the scientific community to point out how politicized the issue of climate change has become, and a growing faction agrees that the 21st century hasn’t actually produced any measurable warming.

The prospect of battling with those darn obstructionist Republicans didn’t deter President Obama from requesting a nice $770 million chunk in foreign aid to combat climate change in developing countries (but then, his entire 2013 budget was a flippant political stunt that won approximately zero votes, so, wash). Despite the fact that we cannot afford even these tidy little earmarks, this appeal to the environmentalist lobby’s bid to shape and control how other countries develop is selfish, elitist, and ignorant. Wealthier societies are healthier societies, and discouraging the proven routes to prosperity in weaker nations in order to furnish laboratories for environmentalist pipe dreams is a waste of money that does nothing to contribute to global economic growth and accomplishes little to help lift people out of poverty and misery.


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Climate change = weather. How hard was that.

mr.idaho on April 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I love the global warming Al Gore clock on Rush’s website.

Oil Can on April 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Chu: I don’t understand why this goldfish stays near the surface of the fishbowl and doesn’t move, but I’m sure it’s very much alive.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM

The climate is always changing, genius.

Red Cloud on April 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM

“Over the last couple of years, the dispassionate, hard science evidence has been mounting, increasing,” said Chu, speaking at an energy forum hosted by The New York Times.

No, not really. If anything, the opposite has been happening.

cicerone on April 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Liberalism…let’s run the world based on crackpot theories that we came up with and we tested and we know how to implement!

Spliff Menendez on April 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM

“Chu” is a Chinese word meaning “imbecile.”

Stu Gotts on April 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Elites: bumps and wiggles…

Boy they sure are the smartest.

tom daschle concerned on April 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Chu shows the same astuteness with climate science that he demonstrated as a financier.
The Bering Sea ice extent is at an all time high.
http://www.climatedepot.com/

pat on April 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM

“flat-earth caucus”

The earth has gone flat – due to global warming.

forest on April 12, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Invasion of the Dumbasses.

fogw on April 12, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I like all the new writers and I’m trying to keep track of everyone.

Erika–do you have any links to yor sites? Thanks.

conservative pilgrim on April 12, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Energy Secretary Steven Chu said Wednesday that scientific evidence of climate change is getting more and more powerful, comments that come as global warming legislation remains moribund in Congress and Environmental Protection regulations are facing ongoing GOP assaults.

Wait a minute. I thought the “science was settled”. Sure wish they’d get their lies straight.

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Climate changes every day, and every year, and every millennium. And it always will.

minnesoter on April 12, 2012 at 12:57 PM

*your

conservative pilgrim on April 12, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Elites: bumps and wiggles…

Boy they sure are the smartest.

tom daschle concerned on April 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Don’t you just love those technical terms?

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Being a life long liberal, sometimes he doesn’t understand all he knows about this climate stuff.

antipc on April 12, 2012 at 12:59 PM

As someone with a brain, he admits that not every detail of climate change is known but there are some things we are fairly certain of.

That’s how science works.

The “alternative” opinion seems to be it’s not happening since the magical bearded guy in the sky is protecting us or something.

I’d trust the former.

lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

And I know this because I am a genius and way smarter than you peasants out there.

clippermiami on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

This morning at dawn it was about 48 degrees. Right now it is about 52 degrees. At this rate or temperature increase the temperature in my neighborhood will reach the boiling point within a week. I need $5 million to more closely study this.

crosspatch on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

leave it to liberalism to make you feel guilty about nice weather…

mjbrooks3 on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

I wish someone in the public eye (Romney?) would take 5 minutes out of their busy schedule and expose this global warming/climate change crap for what it actually is – a g*damn money grab.

Rohall1215 on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Does anybody else remember when the planet Mars was shown it had visible ice caps? Whatever happened to them?

What does the Earth and Mars have in common?

Well, there is the sun, but Dems can’t make money on regulating the sun. So, wait for it … Man is causing the warming!!!

DuctTapeMyBrain on April 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I think Chew Choo does crack!
His name should be Cocaine Chew!…

KOOLAID2 on April 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

‘Bumps and wiggles’? Seriously!? Has he been going out with some GSA guys to a club? This is scientific speak from the smartest guys in the room? They are entertaining if nothing else.

Kissmygrits on April 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

lester agrees with Chu.

Stupid is as stupid does.

fogw on April 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Good thing the GOP isn’t going to nominate someone with similar views as Chu’s.

CTSherman on April 12, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I wish someone in the public eye (Romney?) would take 5 minutes out of their busy schedule and expose this global warming/climate change crap for what it actually is – a g*damn money grab.

Rohall1215 on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

You’re joking, right?

Romney said last year that he believes global warming/climate change – whatever they’re calling it this week – is real.

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Chu noted that “we don’t understand everything”

…which is why we have to make sh!@t up.

The wild predictions that have not come true….bogus models….. lack of showing their work….and continually being exposed for falsifying data is far from “hard science evidence has been mounting, increasing,” said Chu,” …

What a joke…the Eco-fundamentalist have been reduced to calling their scam “climate change” so that they can incorporate any weather event as proof and validation.

This is not science…it is 100% political activism.

Baxter Greene on April 12, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Nice summary, Erika. Pithy.

Ummm, Sec. Chu, we’ve had far fewer hurricanes in recent years than the historical average. And temperature hasn’t increased for 13+ years. Oh and the 1.7mm/yr rise of the sea has been stalling. Should we be screaming in terror or soiling ourselves?

theCork on April 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Manbearpig!

crazy_legs on April 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM

This is not science…it is 100% political activism.

Baxter Greene on April 12, 2012 at 1:05 PM

And the emails of the con artists back that up.

dogsoldier on April 12, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Chu: We don’t understand the “bumps and wiggles” of climate change, but oh yes, it’s happening

…of course this is the same idiot who gave himself an “A-” for blowing billions of tax payer dollars on their failed green schemes……

…”Green shoots Solyndra style!!!!”…..

Baxter Greene on April 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM

The Day the Earth Heard Stupid.

Lourdes on April 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Give Øbama a second term and you’ll have to subscribe to the theory of manmade global warming to qualify for bidding on gubmint contracts.

Heh, maybe for getting medical care under ØbamaCare too.

petefrt on April 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

As someone with a brain, he admits that not every detail of climate change is known but there are some things we are fairly certain of.

That’s how science works.

The “alternative” opinion seems to be it’s not happening since the magical bearded guy in the sky is protecting us or something.

I’d trust the former.

lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Anyone else notice that the only people that describe God as having a beard and “living in the sky” are….atheists?

DethMetalCookieMonst on April 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

But, but I though Oblessed had quelled the rising sea levels. And like wow, I can hardly believe that Chuie there now has such a clear understanding of 4.5 billion years of earth climate. With that kind of knowledge, what’s he doing working for a bum like Obama?

stukinIL4now on April 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The “alternative” opinion seems to be it’s not happening since the magical bearded guy in the sky is protecting us or something.

I’d trust the former.

lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

No, the alternative is it’s not happening because the scaremongering predictions of the last 35+ years have been wrong over and over again, even while they become more shrill and drastic. The Neo-Malthusians are experiencing in slow motion what the Millerites did: The Great Disappointment.

theCork on April 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

dogsoldier on April 12, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Exactly….

But liberals say that scientist shown pushing fraud and lies in their own words doesn’t mean anything……

“smartest people in the room”

Baxter Greene on April 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Chu is a HACK. His nobel is in optics which seems kind of funny considering. He was key in bringing hundreds of millions to berkley from BP.

aniptofar on April 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

But, but, but WAIT, Carney is speaking now on Obama’s awesomely awesome history on legislating economy-thing-like-things “for women”. Said “he knows of three Hillary Rosens” and denies knowing any one Hillary Rosen. Smart Power!

Lourdes on April 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

As someone with a brain

lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

You realize we’re talking about the same genius who rushed through the Solyndra loan, right?

antipc on April 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Rohall1215 on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Romney believes in Anthropogenic Global Warming, and has been very anti-Coal, pro-Alternative Energy subsidies like wind and solar power, he was even talking up Ethanol subsidies in Iowa back when Pawlenty was shocking people by arguing against them. He even tried to get a cap-and-tax program started in New England, back when he was governor of MA.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

This morning at dawn it was about 48 degrees. Right now it is about 52 degrees. At this rate or temperature increase the temperature in my neighborhood will reach the boiling point within a week. I need $5 million to more closely study this.

crosspatch on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Granted!

Signed the Obama Administration

buckeyerich on April 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Anyone else notice that the only people that describe God as having a beard and “living in the sky” are….atheists?

DethMetalCookieMonst on April 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

They’re confusing him with Zeus. They must be ancient Greek atheists.

theCork on April 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Getting back to global warming ……err Climate change huh….. did a couple of supposed scientist’s tell King putt that they have an extra bunch of money left in their accounts, that he could use for his campaign, if the meme starts getting ramped up again………..

angrymike on April 12, 2012 at 1:15 PM

The “alternative” opinion seems to be it’s not happening since the magical bearded guy in the sky is protecting us or something.

I’d trust the former.

lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Holy crap you guys like false choices! It’s not a question of it’s happening and science tells us or it’s not happening because God won’t let it. We question the science because it has been verifiably falsified, not because of a belief in God.

Is it happening? Probably. But then again, maybe not. Does human activity affect it? At this point we don’t believe it is. We believe it’s part of a natural climatic cycle.

Mitoch55 on April 12, 2012 at 1:15 PM

This morning at dawn it was about 48 degrees. Right now it is about 52 degrees. At this rate or temperature increase the temperature in my neighborhood will reach the boiling point within a week. I need $5 million to more closely study this.

crosspatch on April 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Granted!

Signed the Obama Administration

buckeyerich on April 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Not so fast. That grant comes with a string attached — political contributions to Obama’s re-elect is a built-in feature.

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

They’re confusing him with Zeus. They must be ancient Greek atheists.

theCork on April 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM

All I see when I try to imagine God is a strangely small man with a big cigar and beady eyes.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

We don’t understand everything but that doesn’t keep us from definitely knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt…. whatever we feel will help us advance our agenda.

yhxqqsn on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I have no problem with stating the climate is changing. It always has. That’s not the point.
 

there are “bumps and wiggles” that are not understood, trends are clear in the long term.

 
A Nobel prize winning physicist would surely understand that those “bumps and wiggles” have massive influences on calculations, right?
 
I’d be surprised if we’re even capable of knowing for sure which side of the decimal we’re on yet.

rogerb on April 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM

discouraging the proven routes to prosperity in weaker nations in order to furnish laboratories for environmentalist pipe dreams is a waste of money that does nothing to contribute to global economic growth and accomplishes little to help lift people out of poverty and misery.

Yeah, but apart from that it’s good, right?

mr.blacksheep on April 12, 2012 at 1:17 PM

All I see when I try to imagine God is a strangely small man with a big cigar and beady eyes.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

You mean you don’t see Morgan Freeman?

CurtZHP on April 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM

You mean you don’t see Morgan Freeman?

CurtZHP on April 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM

George Burns or no one!

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

It’s easy to understand the bumps and wiggles of liars.

Just takes a modicum of high school physics.

They bump, wiggle and squirm when lying.

Right Chu-chu?

tarpon on April 12, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Lester
Are you young, or stupid? In the 70s the scientists said it was GLOBAL COOLING that we should be afraid of, no s*+t really, they change their theory to fit their lies. Wake up, if you believe them, I got some nice ocean front property in Arizona for sale……..

angrymike on April 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM

All I see when I try to imagine God is a strangely small man with a big cigar and beady eyes.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

You mean you don’t see Morgan Freeman?

CurtZHP on April 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM

More like George Burns.

Mitoch55 on April 12, 2012 at 1:24 PM

not every detail of climate change is known but there are some things we are fairly certain of.
 
That’s how science works.
 
lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

 
God help us all if that’s what they’re teaching now about “how science works.”

rogerb on April 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM

George Burns or no one!

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Oops! Not quick enough…

Mitoch55 on April 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Romney said last year that he believes global warming/climate change – whatever they’re calling it this week – is real.

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 1:05 PM

To be fair, one can believe that global warming is due to humans, it will have catastrophic consequences, and the absolute worst thing to do about it is a carbon tax or cap and trade. The inability of the AGW crowd to think outside the heavy-handed statism box is, in my opinion, unscientific on their part. It seems like no amount of failure can possibly convince them that their solution will not work.

NukeRidingCowboy on April 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Buckshot bill
George Burns….. that’s how I picture him, with a spread sheet picking the horses ……..

angrymike on April 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

George Burns or no one!

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

As long as it’s not Alanis Morrisette.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Meanwhile about 49 former NASA astronauts and scientists sign a petition to get NASA to stop the AGW crap and get back to real science “before NASA ruins it’s own reputation”. FORMER is important because they no longer have to toe the pro-AGW PC party line to continue their paychecks, so they can actually speak the truth.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/astronauts-condemn-nasa%E2%80%99s-global-warming-endorsement/469366

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:27 PM

angrymike on April 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM

And when I was a kid, everything was “Every day a thousand miles of Rainforest are lost forever, because of slash-and-burn Agriculture.” And then it became all anti-Hydroelectricity because dams are evil or something, and then it became how every animal kids like will be extinct by the time we graduated from High-school, and then it went back to global warming is going to kill us all, sometime in ’95 or so.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:28 PM

All I see when I try to imagine God is a strangely small man with a big cigar and beady eyes.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Do you mean Archie Bunker?

freedomfirst on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

All I see when I try to imagine God is a strangely small man with a big cigar and beady eyes.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Not a black guy in a white suit with a thing for leetle girls???

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

“We also don’t understand gravity, at least why there is gravity, and it would be pretty gruesome if all of a sudden gravity stopped. This is why we need to spend tons of borrowed money to discover who we can blame, right now, in the event gravity just shuts off.”

BobMbx on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

One truly must have faith with AGW. I have seen religious zealots with less blind faith than Chu and his ilk. With religion there is no direct evidence that disputes your basic claim. There is also no direct evidence that proves you claim. With AGW there is an overwhelming amount of data and evidence that disproves the basic claim. Got to have more blind faith in that case…..or….just maybe it’s the biggest con in the history of mankind.

jukin3 on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

There’s always a new State of Fear.

Global Warming/Climate Change/”It’s all our fault”, started dying out four/five years ago…with the ClimateGate scandal being the nail in the coffin (scientists altering data? for more funding? impossible!).

The current economy and national debt has become the new State of Fear.

The fact that the Obama administration is still pandering to a dead State of Fear, or trying to keep it on life support, is a sign of desperation.

Blacksoda on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

…That would be consistent, since Chu is apparently cast as “Meathead”.

freedomfirst on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

It is rising even faster than we thought.

What the…

Is he seriously that out of touch? Here is some actual sea level data. The whole “sea levels rising faster” meme is an epic failure. Real world data completely contradicts it.

As some people put it, Obama’s promise that sea levels would stop rising if he was elected president, is one he’s actually kept.

taznar on April 12, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Meanwhile about 49 former NASA astronauts and scientists sign a petition to get NASA to stop the AGW crap and get back to real science “before NASA ruins it’s own reputation”. FORMER is important because they no longer have to toe the pro-AGW PC party line to continue their paychecks, so they can actually speak the truth.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/astronauts-condemn-nasa%E2%80%99s-global-warming-endorsement/469366

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Does NASA still exist?
//

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I could see God as a Wilford Brimley, type person, but only from The Thing.

God is a crazy, drunk guy with a gun and a big fire axe.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM

jukin3 on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Lets explore some other possibilities.

What if some all-powerful being, like Klaatu, has made a secret threat to the heads of state on the planet?

“Get rid of CO2, or we’ll send an army of Gorts here”

There’s just about the same evidence of this as there is for AGW.

Nicto Barada

BobMbx on April 12, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Anyone else notice that the only people that describe God as having a beard and “living in the sky” are….atheists?

DethMetalCookieMonst on April 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

You mean as Michaelangelo painted him?

OTOH – don’t insult atheists who think for themselves by lumping us with lester – there are a lot of “christians” who believe the AGW fraud as well.

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM

and if it is? So what?

Only the liberals think they are “God Like” enough to stop it. Because their only god is themselves.

kirkill on April 12, 2012 at 1:36 PM

“Nicto Barada“

BobMbx on April 12, 2012 at 1:33 PM

“Nremphfff! There, I said it. What, I really did, I said the words, honest!” – The Chin

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:36 PM

so now this is the “Bumps and Wiggles” administration. Seems appropriate.

kirkill on April 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM

You mean as Michaelangelo painted him?

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM

You aren’t arguing that Lester knows what the Sistine Chapel is, are you?

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM

What the…

Is he seriously that out of touch? Here is some actual sea level data. The whole “sea levels rising faster” meme is an epic failure. Real world data completely contradicts it.

As some people put it, Obama’s promise that sea levels would stop rising if he was elected president, is one he’s actually kept.

taznar on April 12, 2012 at 1:30 PM

He probably went down to the beach and noticed that the sea level was rising at a rate of about a foot an hour, so he rushed off to warn everyone….. He could actually see it happening with his own eyes….//

I’m guessing he didn’t go back a few hours later to see that it had gone back down……

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:39 PM

You aren’t arguing that Lester knows what the Sistine Chapel is, are you?

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM

I would only speculate that lester can’t be any MORE intelligent than Sir Chuchu….

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:41 PM

it’s the people that BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE that really really scare me.

kirkill on April 12, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Does NASA still exist?
//

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM

In theory (and in the federal budget – if one of those existed), but I would say the former NASA group is probably too late to save NASA’s reputation.

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Once again…..

We aren’t finished with the last ice age, we’re still coming out of it. We WILL lose the polar caps, doesn’t matter if humans are involved or not, it’s gonna happen anyway.

What do these idiots think happens at the end of an ice age, it gets colder? What do they think happens when our most local star increases it’s output by 10% every billion years? It shoots ice at us?

Idiots. Hypocritical, corrupt, moronic, socialist idiots.

Wolfmoon on April 12, 2012 at 1:44 PM

I could see God as a Wilford Brimley, type person, but only from The Thing.

God is a crazy, drunk guy with a gun and a big fire axe.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM

The absolute WORST one was Jeanine Gagofalo.

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:45 PM

The absolute WORST one was Jeanine Gagofalo.

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 1:45 PM

God has too good a sense of humor, to be JG. Or any liberal comedian for that matter. Maybe a Libertarian comedian. With fewer drugs, though. God’s probably more of an alcoholic than a coke-head.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 1:49 PM

jukin3 on April 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Well said.

people that vote for Obummer because he’s going to save us from ourselves because we are destroying the earth are much more ignorant than those that vote for him because he’s 1/2 black.

All is ignorance of basic logic and critical thinking.

kirkill on April 12, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Does NASA still exist?
//

Bitter Clinger on April 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Yes but they’re working on improving relations with the middle east.

antipc on April 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Wolfmoon on April 12, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Ya – do you recall from a couple years ago the AGW crowd was crying about a glacier melting in South America, and about how it revealed tropical plants underneath that were 4000 years old? They claimed that showed how “unprecedented” the warming was. Of course simple logic asks – how did those tropical plants get under that glacier in the first place? Obviously it was much warmer there 4000 years ago.

Perhaps we just have not yet discovered the Mayans’ SUVs and coal-fired power plants.///

dentarthurdent on April 12, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Energy Secretary Steven Chu said Wednesday that scientific evidence of climate change is getting more and more powerful

Obviously Chu has not been reading the lastest factual information coming out.

sadatoni on April 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Comandante Chu.

Archivarix on April 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

We all know that the climate of Earth is in constant flux. Instead of fighting climate change by unproven and costly tax increases. It is odd that tax increases are always the solution. Anyhow the much lower cost solution is to ADAPT. Kind of like when it is cold out put on warmer clothes. When it is hot out, stay in the shade. When you are over run with crops because of a longer growing season, rejoice.

Dasher on April 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM

So let me ponder this…

For the last decade there has been no statistically significant warming.

The data that supposedly supports the believers’ position has been shown to have been deliberately falsified, and then they tried to cover up the falsification.

Mann, Hansen, and others involved have been shown to have pressured scientific journals to suppress opposing views and studies.

Not a single one of their computer climate models that they rely on to support their theories has been able to duplicate historic trends, much less predict future ones.

Their “solutions” have one thing in common: the transfer of money from the producers to the takers.

Observations of Mars indicate that very similar warming is occurring there, where there is no anthropogenic effect, (unless our rovers are putting out significantly more heat than we thought.)

Their models and data ignore the little ice age and the medieval warming period.

Their theories ignore the fact that Antarctic ice cores show that historically CO2 rise LAGS warming by a period of 300 to 800 years.

(Have I forgotten anything?)

And we’re supposed to have our confidence in their theories boosted by the announcement of “bumps and wiggles”.

Priceless.

LooseCannon on April 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Watermelon, watermelon, watermelon rind,
Watch as the commies hide the decline.

Knott Buyinit on April 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Hard rain. That’s your “evidence,” Dr. Chu?

SukieTawdry on April 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The dire need is to combat the Obama administration.

Global warming is preferable to another ice age – Crank up the coal power plants!!!!

redguy on April 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

As someone with a brain, he admits that not every detail of climate change is known but there are some things we are fairly certain of.

That’s how science works.

The “alternative” opinion seems to be it’s not happening since the magical bearded guy in the sky is protecting us or something.

I’d trust the former.

lester on April 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

As someone with a brain, I suggest the following;

Prove, with full and transparent data, the following;

1. That global temperatures are rising, over a sustained period (50 years should do the trick, but how about 10 or 20 years for starters.)
2. Now, prove that it’s caused by man’s actions.
3. Prove that it’s bad.
4. Suggest a way to fix it.
5. Test your suggested fix.
6. If it works, apply it broadly.

That’s actually “how science works;” based on transparent, fully published, replicable data. It’s not based on moving sensors, parsing data that doesn’t fit, proclaiming that consensus amongst those with a vested economic interest in an outcome is the equal of valid data and experiments.

The science is not settled; increasingly, The Science Is Scuttled!

massrighty on April 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Here were a couple bumps and wiggles to contemplate:

A few years ago the denialist program NOVA funded and broadcast by Public Television had an episode on the glacial cycle in North America.

At least twice in the past 15,000 years glaciers advanced to the continental US creating enormous glacial lakes. Glacial Lake Missoula was 6,000 feet deep at its deepest point and held more water than modern day Lake Michigan. When the glacial dams burst as a result of global warming, the runoff from the lake scoured the earth from Montana to the Pacific. This left behind the “scab lands” of Washington state and deposited rich soil in the Willamette Valley of Oregon. There was Glacial Lake Helena at a slightly smaller scale as well.

Yeah, it happened at least twice. In the past 15,000 years. Just at the dawn of the SUV era as I recall.

And pro AGW truthers are ignoring the fact that the Arctic is now revealing evidence of palm trees and other tropical vegetation. Likewise, evidence is being found documenting the ability of polar bears to handle significant swings in average temperatures in past climate cycles. Last week a Canadian research project reported that the polar bear surveys in recent years significantly under-counted the actual polar population which has been increasing.

in_awe on April 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I’ve got a theory as to how the campaign will play out.

The more I watch, the more I think that Obama is purposely doing stupid energy policy, like stopping the pipeline and closing off coastal drilling permits, to drive the price of gas back up to Bush ’08 levels.

I think he is planning on announcing that he is re-opening off-shore drilling in late August or September, to cause the gasoline price to plunge before the election. Bush announced his admin was opened to more drilling when the gas price was around $4 a gallon, and the price dropped within week by a dollar or more.

This would probably hurt him a bit with the Green crowd, but they’d get over it I think. It would more likely than not give him a boost in the polls though. Probably enough to pick up a few of the closer states, and it doesn’t look as purely political as the October Surprises tend to look.

Buckshot Bill on April 12, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Energy Secretary Steven Chu said Wednesday that scientific evidence of climate change is getting more and more powerful

Oh?

GarandFan on April 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM

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