Two-thirds in skewed WaPo/ABC poll want ObamaCare overturned in whole or in part

posted at 8:41 am on April 11, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

ABC splits the lead for its report on the results of their joint poll with the Washington Post on ObamaCare — the one that had a sample skew of D+11, and which should have resulted in more favorable results for Barack Obama and his signature legislative accomplishment.  Despite the skew, ObamaCare is as unpopular as ever, although the dog-in-the-manger effort by Obama and his Democratic allies to spin the eventual decision as political rather than legal appears to have worked:

Last month’s hearings on the constitutionality of health care reform didn’t help its popularity: Public support for Barack Obama’s signature domestic legislation has hit a new low in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, with criticism of the individual mandate as high as ever.

Half the public, moreover, thinks the U.S. Supreme Court will rule on the legislation on the basis of the justices’ partisan political views rather than the law. Fewer, 40 percent, think impartial legal analysis will carry the day, with the rest unsure.

Fifty-three percent of Americans now oppose the law overall, while just 39 percent support it – the latter the lowest in more than a dozen ABC/Post polls since August 2009. “Strong” critics, at 40 percent, outnumber strong supporters by nearly a 2-1 margin in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.

Two-thirds continue to say the high court should throw out either the entire law (38 percent) or at least the part that requires most individuals to obtain coverage (29 percent) or face a penalty; just a quarter want the court to uphold the law as is. Those numbers, like views on the law overall, are essentially unchanged from a month ago.

In fact, the only difference from a month ago is the sampling, which is much more favorable to Obama this time around. Clearly, the bill has become an albatross to Obama and his allies on Capitol Hill.  The poll does not break down ObamaCare support along partisan lines, but when only 25% of respondents want the Supreme Court to maintain the law as it stands in a sample with a D/R/I of 34/23/34, it’s obviously underperforming even among Democrats.

Jay Cost picks up on other bad news, especially considering the sample skew:

On all of the most salient issues facing the electorate, we either see a statistical dead heat or a Romney advantage. And this is with Romney being bogged down for four months in a very nasty primary battle.

What to make of that topline between Obama and Mitt Romney, showing Obama up by seven points over the presumptive GOP nominee? Well, for starters a big part of Obama’s lead has to be chalked up to the hugely Democratic tilt of this poll. Pollsters with a more reasonable spread – in particular Gallup and Rasmussen – show a much tighter contest.

But the general election campaign has not actually begun. In fact, the playing field has been systematically stacked in favor of President Obama, who has been relentlessly campaigning while Romney has been mired in a messy primary battle. That is now set to change with Romney clearing out the GOP field.

Additionally, only about 10 to 15 percent of all voters are actually up for grabs in November, and they are hardly paying close attention just yet. Given that, I am much less interested in the head-to-head horse race number between Obama and Romney than I am in the details discussed above. To borrow a metaphor from economics, items like who voters trust more on creating jobs, whether they think the recession is over, or whether Obama is doing a good job dealing with the gas price surge are all “leading indicators” of where the race is going to head as we move forward through the cycle.

So, here’s my bottom line: ABC News/WaPo has again offered up a pro-Democratic sample that helps Team Obama spin the day’s news. Yet dig a little deeper, and there is bad news here for the president, even if his friends in the media do not want to talk about it.

Well, if they wanted to talk about it, they wouldn’t be retaining pollsters who deliver samples with such ridiculous skew, would they?

Addendum: Hugh Hewitt had WaPo’s Dan Balz on as a guest last night, and Hugh challenged him on the polling sample.  I’m pretty sure that will go up today on their site.


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Boy, Republicans must be REALLY HARD to find for all these polls….oh wait, nevermind…they’re the ones WORKING. Nevermind.

search4truth on April 11, 2012 at 8:46 AM

OK, WaPo is as bent as the rest of the media but the country is not D+11 on the whole.

Why don’t they start sampling outside their fishbowl?

CorporatePiggy on April 11, 2012 at 8:46 AM

The fish is schizophrenic … from the Head down.

ShainS on April 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Barack Obama and his signature legislative accomplishment.

The “accomplishment” tag used to be annoying, but it’s really growing on me now.

forest on April 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM

& our Presidential candidate can’t run against it since Romneycare was (according to all Romney’s opponents), the model for Obamacare.

Romney will have to have a squadron of supporters decrying Obamacare.

kelley in virginia on April 11, 2012 at 8:50 AM

It doesn’t matter what anyone wants out of this.
The Federal Government has no enumerated power giving it the right to meddle in healthcare, education, old age pensions, welfare, etc.

Badger40 on April 11, 2012 at 8:50 AM

President Obama never found a fact that he, (or his media) couldn’t change—it’s all about the change baby.

Rovin on April 11, 2012 at 8:51 AM

What I want to know is, why a program like FOX’s Special Report makes a point of reporting on this poll and asking the “experts” what they think about it, yet never brings up the slanted split of participants?! I don’t think I’ve ever seen them break down a poll- they just accept it. That doesn’t seem very “balanced” to me.

BettyRuth on April 11, 2012 at 8:52 AM

I believe Obamacare is hugely unpopular. But I also believe a whole bunch of those oversampled Dems think it doesn’t go far enough.

Bat Chain Puller on April 11, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Here is what I don’t get.

Obama’s policies almost universally are unpopular.

He has not been successful in any aspect of his presidency.

The economy sucks. He’s raised the debt significantly to no purpose.

He does nothing but vacation and golf.

How does he still do well in the polls? Even accounting for the skew in most of the polls?

It makes no sense. He should be polling around 30% right now. It’s not even like he is a good speaker and/or personally charming. And, I don’t believe I’m being biased in that assessment. I can admit that Bill Clinton has charm, for instance. But I see nothing to demonstrate any charm from Obama.

So, why the disconnect? Why do people in the mushy middle still like this guy?

Even giving him an extra 5-10% points because the press only gives him as good of coverage as they can, he should be down in the polls. It is very strange.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

I love that picture of Doctor Pony-Tail clapping his hands behind Obama. Has anyone vetted him? Is he a real MD, or is he just a photo-op prop doc?

St Gaudens on April 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Obama’s Media:

Oh, look!!! It’s a puppy. No, it’s a shiny new kitty. No, wait: it’s “The War on Wonder Woman, and SHE”S NAKED!”.

Yoop on April 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Barack Obama and his signature single legislative accomplishment.

FIFY, Ed. Even when it was his job to legislate he hasn’t a single accomplishment on his resume.

crazy_legs on April 11, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Boy! I’m sure getting disappointed that they are even trying to find someone outside of a Union member to poll.
They were interviewing people who only wore purple shirts?…and some Indies and Republicans just happened to like the color?

KOOLAID2 on April 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM

So 25% are welfare mentality socialists. And their vote counts the same as yours and mine. Let’s stop this “I’m not voting for Romney (or other GOP)” and realize that if we don’t stand together, barack will hang us separately. I will vote for a dog turd if the general election comes down to barack or a dog turd.

DuctTapeMyBrain on April 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM

This is not news to any democrats. The law didn’t go far enough and made too many compromises because Obama didn’t have a backbone then. He’s been better more recently though.

lester on April 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM

How does he still do well in the polls? Even accounting for the skew in most of the polls?

Easy. 98% of blacks will give him a pass just because, and a big chunk of whites will still swear up and down that while they oppose him and everything he stands for, they “still like the guy,” even though he’s a thin-skinned, adverse to critisism, narcissistic, downright nasty, arrogant, snob because they still are afraid of being branded a RAAAAAAAACIST. It will be very interesting when these people are in the privacy of the voting booth how much they “still like the guy.”

crazy_legs on April 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM

The breakdown on the 25% who support 0bamaCare:

One quarter of that group are people who wouldn’t pay for anything under 0bamaCare, or rather, think they wouldn’t have to pay anything.

One quarter are affluent progressives who see 0bamaCare as a gateway to a single-payer system.

One half, or about 12% of the population, support anything with 0bama’s name on it due to racial allegiance.

MidniteRambler on April 11, 2012 at 9:03 AM

***

So, why the disconnect? Why do people in the mushy middle still like this guy?

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Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Blacks will defend Obama to the death, whereas some of them would abandon a cracker loser like Carter.

Hispanics will defend Obama a little less, but too many of them seem driven by the desire for amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Mushy whites are those who don’t have the stomach for firing the affirmative-action hire. Seriously, check out comparative employment histories of Obama and Herbert Hoover at this NRO Corner post. It’s worth printing and saving.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295681/bully-pulpit-michael-walsh#more

BuckeyeSam on April 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM

& our Presidential candidate can’t run against it since Romneycare was (according to all Romney’s opponents), the model for Obamacare.

Romney will have to have a squadron of supporters decrying Obamacare.

kelley in virginia on April 11, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Mute point if the SCOTUS does the right thing.

parteagirl on April 11, 2012 at 9:05 AM

in a sample with a D/R/I of 34/23/34

Help out a graduate of public school here: what happened to the other 9%?

Browncoatone on April 11, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Even when it was his job to legislate he hasn’t a single accomplishment on his resume.

Well, there is the American Recovery Act, AKA the Stimulus Bill–oh, you mean legislative accomplishments that actually worked as advertised.

Never mind.

MidniteRambler on April 11, 2012 at 9:06 AM

I love that picture of Doctor Pony-Tail clapping his hands behind Obama. Has anyone vetted him? Is he a real MD, or is he just a photo-op prop doc?

St Gaudens on April 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Isn’t that the actor who played Detective Goren’s crazy mentor in few episodes of Law & Order: Criminal Intent?

BuckeyeSam on April 11, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Addendum: Hugh Hewitt had WaPo’s Dan Balz on as a guest last night, and Hugh challenged him on the polling sample. I’m pretty sure that will go up today on their site.

Did anybody listen last night? I am really curious what Mr. Balz had to say about his sample for this poll.

msmveritas on April 11, 2012 at 9:08 AM

How does he still do well in the polls?

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

The media is* still propping him up, underreporting his gaffes and disturbing and false statements. Underreporting the state of the country with stories about “fun”employment, and “I’d rather walk or ride my bike” instead of dwelling on the high numbers of unemployed, underemployed and “necessarily” high gas prices. Imagine if a republican were in office…

In many cases, the media itself is the enemy of truth, fairness and unbiased reporting in America.

(* I know it should be “are still propping him up” but it just doesn’t sound right to me.)

Fallon on April 11, 2012 at 9:11 AM

crazy_legs on April 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM

I don’t want to count on the idea that people are going to vote differently than the polls suggest. I don’t buy that there are that many people out there afraid to say they disapprove of how he is doing his job in a poll out of fear of being called racist. I think there is some other disconnect going on.

BuckeyeSam on April 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM

I disagree that Hispanics will change their vote over amnesty. Even if the GOP promised and gave a full-blown amnesty to every illegal, the voting breakdown among Hispanics would likely remain the same.

As far as Blacks sticking with Obama – I agree. But that is factored into my belief that he should be around 30% in the polls.

I think the problem with the mushy middle is that they still don’t want to admit how wrong they were in supporting him in the first place him and how duped they were. They want to hang on to the belief that Obama really can do great things, but just has had bad luck.

I guess the main difference is the media. If a republican had all of the failures that Obama has had, and the economy, unemployment, gas prices, and foreign policy disasters, the press would be beating the republican president day in and day out, which would slowly get voters to start disliking him (a la W Bush).

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 9:14 AM

***

(* I know it should be “are still propping him up” but it just doesn’t sound right to me.)

Fallon on April 11, 2012 at 9:11 AM

I think you can be forgiven, especially when this collective noun consisting of collectivists speaks with one voice: all in for Obama.

BuckeyeSam on April 11, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Mr. Morrissey,

Have you seen this story going around? On the face of it, it seems like some shills for favored insurance companies/ brokers trying to muddy the waters around the upcoming SCOTUS decision. Kind of makes one go “…hmm, wonder where the campaign donations and bundling trail leads on this one?”

M240H on April 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM

What I want to know is, why a program like FOX’s Special Report makes a point of reporting on this poll and asking the “experts” what they think about it, yet never brings up the slanted split of participants?! I don’t think I’ve ever seen them break down a poll- they just accept it. That doesn’t seem very “balanced” to me.

BettyRuth on April 11, 2012 at 8:52 AM

like it or not, Fox is a center left network. It’s a sad state of affairs when Fox is as conservative as it gets. Brett Baier is usually okay but he doesn’t rock the establishment boat. Gutfeld is the only true con left on the entire network.

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 9:20 AM

***

I think the problem with the mushy middle is that they still don’t want to admit how wrong they were in supporting him in the first place him and how duped they were. They want to hang on to the belief that Obama really can do great things, but just has had bad luck.

I guess the main difference is the media. If a republican had all of the failures that Obama has had, and the economy, unemployment, gas prices, and foreign policy disasters, the press would be beating the republican president day in and day out, which would slowly get voters to start disliking him (a la W Bush).

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 9:14 AM

On the mushy middle, people here at HA seem to loathe Dick Morris, and I won’t disagree (though I’ll listen to anyone who candidly bashes Obama). Nevertheless, last week, I saw Morris say that it’s very difficult to attract swing voters by telling them that they screwed up. They just don’t like to be told that they made a mistake. Now, I forget how you’re supposed to go about drawing the contrast. I think he said that the GOP needs to overwhelm these voters with evidence of how Obama let them down.

On the media, I think that the steady drumbeat would have Obama irrevocably at 35%. If he were a white GOP president, he’d be at 20% to 25%. But with a drumbeat, he’d still have no chance of getting re-elected. Getting to 40% approval would be a dream.

BuckeyeSam on April 11, 2012 at 9:23 AM

So, why the disconnect? Why do people in the mushy middle still like this guy?

Even giving him an extra 5-10% points because the press only gives him as good of coverage as they can, he should be down in the polls. It is very strange.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Polls are easily rigged by media organizations. Simply wording the questions the ‘correct’ way without oversight will give you wildly different results.

The media is trying to set expectations by ‘proving’ at least half the country loves the SCOAMF. Or at least they are scared of the evil Republicans.

And failing that they’re running heavy interference. The Fluke story, the War on Women, and the BS about Traytable are just a handful of examples of that.

CorporatePiggy on April 11, 2012 at 9:23 AM

40% say the SC will decide on constitutional merit

50% say the SC will rule according to partisan divide

11% Dem Advantage

I’d say that “dog-in-the-manger effort by Obama and his Democratic allies to spin the eventual decision as political rather than legal appears to have not worked”

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM

I love that picture of Doctor Pony-Tail clapping his hands behind Obama. Has anyone vetted him? Is he a real MD, or is he just a photo-op prop doc?

St Gaudens on April 11, 2012 at 8:56 AM

I agree. I imagined they just borrowed him from a nearby protest.

gmbdds on April 11, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Well, if they wanted to talk about it, they wouldn’t be retaining pollsters who deliver samples with such ridiculous skew, would they?

Keep it simple.

“What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.” ~ Saul Alinsky

We have their playbook. Isn’t it past time to use it?

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM

So, why the disconnect? Why do people in the mushy middle still like this guy?

Even giving him an extra 5-10% points because the press only gives him as good of coverage as they can, he should be down in the polls. It is very strange.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

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I see that Buckeye and Fallon hit this already but, I think Rush covered this years ago. Even without the media bias and looking just at the mushy middle, they really want give the black quarterback the benefit of the doubt and see him to do well.
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White guilt and affirmative action thinking expressed in the polls.
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RalphyBoy on April 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Help out a graduate of public school here: what happened to the other 9%?

Browncoatone on April 11, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Debbie Shultz ate them for warring on women

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM

ED,

one thing we learned when you were on vacation. if Palin or tax increase is in a thread it gets a gazillion responses.

I suggest you start all threads with ‘PALIN TAX INCREASE”.

LOL

gerrym51 on April 11, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Barack Obama and his signature legislative accomplishment.

Shouldn’t we replace “signature” with “single?” Given how much he works to go around Congress, isn’t that more appropriate?

beatcanvas on April 11, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Honest question, hoe long before WaPo/ABC starts doing polls that over-sample Democrats by at least 30 points?

I would love to hear a justification from them why they feel the need to over-sample Democrats in every single poll they conduct. What makes them think teh D/R ratio will be worse than in 2008 and nowhere near what it was in 2010.

It is almost becoming laughable how every poll is registered voters and badly over-sample Democrats.

As for this, this is no surprise. The only people that like Obamacare are Obama, the 4 liberal SC justices, those 2 liberals who “debated” Laura Ingraham on O’Reilly last night, Nancy Pelosi, that guy who is clapping for Obama in that picture Ed always uses, and a few other liberals.

milcus on April 11, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Skew 0 care.

Bmore on April 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Not necessarily. When looking at the liberal wing of the SC (and especially Kagan and the “wise latina”), and considering the possibility of a 5 – 4 vote, I think that obviously they’re voting on politics rather than Constitutionality. Ginsburg’s recent spin about its Constitutionality (and forgive me but I don’t have a link) made absolutely no sense.

So given that, if I were asked that I would say yes, I do believe that the liberal wing of the Court will be voting on politics rather than dispassionately looking at the Constitutionality. And if it were a “yes” or “no” answer, I’d answer “yes.”

crazy_legs on April 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM

The law didn’t go far enough and made too many compromises because Obama didn’t have a backbone then. He’s been better more recently though.

lester on April 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Right, all those compromises your boy had to make to get so many Republicans to vote to pass the healthcare bill. Wait. Not a single Republican voted for it? Whoa, I guess your boy isn’t even good at compromise. Why should he be? “I won” is such a fantastic political philosophy after all.

Trafalgar on April 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM

FNC is is center-left, huh? I guess if everyone isn’t Hannity, they’re borderline commies…

It makes no sense. He should be polling around 30% right now. It’s not even like he is a good speaker and/or personally charming. And, I don’t believe I’m being biased in that assessment

Well, polls say differently. His likability has been his trump card since he was a State Senator.

When he gets angry, it’s in his words, not body language, and barely registers in his tone. That appeals to a large group who instantly rejects people like O’Reilly and Rush without listening to the argument. They hear a tone, or how they handle themselves, and the conversation is over.

That’s why Romney keeps saying Barry’s a nice guy but over his head. It’s not an appeal to the TrueCons, but to that 15%. If Mitt sounds reasonable, they’ll hear him out. That’s why Barry is trying to define him now, so the 15% approaches Mitt prejudged.

budfox on April 11, 2012 at 9:46 AM

crazy_legs on April 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM

yup, I was thinking more of the conservative and swing votes but definitely I’d have to say yes to the question based on the liberal judges obvious partisanship.

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 9:57 AM

FNC is is center-left, huh? I guess if everyone isn’t Hannity, they’re borderline commies…

budfox on April 11, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Hannity and all the rest are tools of the center left establishment Republican party – yes.

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM

I wanna know the skew on the question about the partisanship of SCOTUS, exactly how they posed the question bcuz we’re all pretty certain that the left-leaning judges are as partisan as it gets and that’s what my answer would be to a poll question.

stukinIL4now on April 11, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Of that 25% what percentage do you suppose read the entire law?

anuts on April 11, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Of the 100% of SC justices, how many do you suppose read the entire law? :)

DHChron on April 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM

That picture with the pony tailed hippie in a lab coat never gets old…

BigWyo on April 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM

The Supreme Court has higher approval numbers than the other two branches. Obamacare is unpopular. Its fate now is in the hands of the Supreme Court.

Guess the Obama team bet on the wrong horse.

This Obamacare is dying a quicker death than originally anticipated.

EMD on April 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM

He’s been better more recently though.

lester on April 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Yeah, sort of like this guy

Kraken on April 11, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Fox is slighty center/right. as compared to msnbc-far left and cnn center/left.

Fox IS NOT far right exept for Hannity.

thats my opinion.

gerrym51 on April 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Women hit hardest

tomas on April 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Give the MSM a couple of weeks to reword their questions. ObamaCare will come up a winner sooner or later.

GarandFan on April 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Maybe Obama needs Obamacare.

The online website cocainedrugaddiction.com cites that one of the early warning signs of cocaine addiction is weight loss, because this drug is acts as an appetite suppressant. Regular or chronic long-term cocaine abusers often have no interest in eating or have no appetite, resulting in rapid weight loss. Cocaine addicts usually appear wasted, pale, thin and gaunt.

gordo on April 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Fox is slighty center/right. as compared to msnbc-far left and cnn center/left.

Fox IS NOT far right exept for Hannity.

thats my opinion.

gerrym51 on April 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM

You are correct sir. We desperately need some competition to the right of Fox News. We need the right-equivalent of MSNBC, if only to demonstrate to the masses what really is ‘the right’.

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Well, polls say differently. His likability has been his trump card since he was a State Senator.

When he gets angry, it’s in his words, not body language, and barely registers in his tone. That appeals to a large group who instantly rejects people like O’Reilly and Rush without listening to the argument. They hear a tone, or how they handle themselves, and the conversation is over.

That’s why Romney keeps saying Barry’s a nice guy but over his head. It’s not an appeal to the TrueCons, but to that 15%. If Mitt sounds reasonable, they’ll hear him out. That’s why Barry is trying to define him now, so the 15% approaches Mitt prejudged.

budfox on April 11, 2012 at 9:46 AM

“well polls say differently”. That was my entire point. Yes, he keeps an even tone – but he isn’t charming. He’s not witty, or fun-loving, or anything remotely interesting. He does nothing that is endearing in any way.

So, fine, people are not put off by him. That doesn’t make him charming, or a good speaker (in terms of saying anything new, insightful, memorable, interesting).

And, I understand that the mushy middle will not be won over by vitriol and invective against Obama.

That isn’t my point. My point is that with such obvious failures as president (economy, Obamacare unpopularity, debt, gas prices, foreign policy), and no real reason to really “like” him (he doesn’t have some kind of magnetic personality, or charm, or anything), why do his poll numbers stay relatively high?

I think I buy into the fact that people in the mushy middle who voted for him don’t want to admit just how terribly wrong they were and the fact that the media gives his failure a total and complete pass allows them to keep telling themselves that they were not in fact wrong.

And this will be difficult for Romney to overcome. He has to get people to realize what a failure Obama is even while the press continue to pretend Obama is doing just fine, all while defending himself from the onslaught that the media will rage against Romney. And, at the same time, he will be fighting human psychology, trying to get people to admit they were wrong when they voted for Obama in the first place.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM

So, why the disconnect? Why do people in the mushy middle still like this guy?

Even giving him an extra 5-10% points because the press only gives him as good of coverage as they can, he should be down in the polls. It is very strange.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

..two words: Bradley Effect.

Google it.

The War Planner on April 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM

“..I refer the right honourable gentleman to the comments I made some moments ago..”

The War Planner on April 11, 2012 at 12:13 PM

You are correct sir. We desperately need some competition to the right of Fox News. We need the right-equivalent of MSNBC, if only to demonstrate to the masses what really is ‘the right’.

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM

..perhaps you’re right. But mightn’t such an outlet have a similar level of viewership as MESSNBC except from the other end of the bell-shaped curve? I mean, how’s Glenn Beck doing?

The War Planner on April 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I’m skeptical that the fact that people think justices will rule based on their political views has anything to do with President Obama. I think that, for some time, people have come to see the judicial branch as another partisan political branch of the government. I also think the judicial branch has given them ample reason to think that way.

Jeff A on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

..two words: Bradley Effect.

Google it.

The War Planner on April 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM

That’s what people said in 2008. How did that work out for us?

I simply don’t buy that very people are lying to pollsters out of fear of being called racist. I’m sure there are some. but maybe 1-2%.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Ed –

I heart your headline.

Any fraud poll should be labeled as such. It immediately strips the result of validity, and begs the question “why did they over sample like that”

In addition to the Romney “all in” post – its time we Republicans all work together to defeat the greatest embarassment and fraud in American Presidential History.

Odie1941 on April 11, 2012 at 1:28 PM