Communists to Allen West: How dare you accuse us of having Democrats as members?

posted at 5:23 pm on April 11, 2012 by Allahpundit

Even reds have standards, my friends.

No, I’m kidding. They’re indignant on behalf of the Democrats, not on behalf of themselves. Although … that’s kind of strange, no? You would think a commie’s reaction to congressmen being accused of communism would be, “What’s wrong with that?”, not “How dare you?”

“I just think it’s an absurd way to cast a shadow over his colleagues. It’s kind of a sad ploy,” Libero Della Piana, a vice-chairman of the national Communist Party, said of the Florida Republican’s charge that about 80 House Democrats were members of the radical party.

“It’s just guilt by association taken to an extreme,” he told POLITICO. He also said there are no members of Congress who are members of the Communist Party – not even avowed socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Oh, wait — here’s a little “what’s wrong with that?” rhetoric after all in the course of accusing West of McCarthyism:

“We are supposed to live in a political democracy,” he said. “I didn’t know that being a Communist in Congress was off-limits or out of bounds. There aren’t any now and if there were in the future does that mean that the voters don’t have a say? Can’t choose a Communist to be in Congress?”

When I read about it this morning, I figured West was goofing on the House Progressive Caucus. According to his campaign manager in an interview with the Daily Caller, that’s exactly what happened. I think:

“I believe there are about 78 or 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist Party,” West said in response to a question at the event. After a dramatic pause, he added, “it’s called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.”

According to the Palm Beach Post, West merely made the allegation about party membership and then “wouldn’t name names” — something Edson said was also untrue.

“One stupid reporter with a local publication misquoted the entire thing, and they all jumped on one press account without verifying,” said Edson. ”It’s all typical west wing marching orders for their friends in the press.”

“Some people are going to quibble about semantics,” he added. “The real point is these people speak for themselves and if you listen to the words of the progressive caucus it’s clear that these people are opponents of capitalism — they oppose free markets, they oppose individual economic freedom — so you can call them whatever you want — whether they’re socialists or marxists or communists.”

Here’s the clip, which West’s office posted to debunk accusations of McCarthyism. I think it’s actually a half-debunk: It sounds like he’s not seriously accusing House progressives of being card-carrying capital-C Communists but is accusing them of being de facto lowercase-C communists in their policy preferences. (His campaign manager echoed that point to the Caller.) Here’s the CPC’s budget proposal for fiscal year 2012 in case you’re looking for a yardstick to measure. Plenty of statist bells and whistles in there — huge tax hikes and a health-care public option stand out — but they seem to accept, however grudgingly, the idea of billionaires in the private sector and they actually tout how much federal spending their budget would allegedly cut. How many communist regimes tolerate the idea of private citizens amassing huge amounts of wealth, even at a higher tax rate? (Oh, right.) But we needn’t overanalyze. He’s making a rhetorical point here that a statist is a statist is a statist, just as his campaign manager suggests. And he did it in a way that guarantees a day’s worth of media/left “McCarthyism” upset at a moment when Romney’s trying to get traction for his “war on women” offensive against The One. Probably safe to say he’s not on the VP shortlist now, if he ever was.


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I made some of the connections before Glenn Beck did.

ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Yeah, well you’re missing the “Big Picture”.

Buy Danish on April 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

He obviously meant “party” and “member” in the informal or rhetorical sense, such as “tea party”. There are dozens of Republican reps who are “members” of the “tea party”.

Buddahpundit on April 11, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Yeah, well you’re missing the “Big Picture”.

Buy Danish on April 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

… that there really is a big difference between state-run socialized medicine and federally-run socialized medicine?

… that we should nominate the single most uniquely disqualified Republican to go against Obama?

What, exactly, am I missing?

ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM

A stupid comment from a man known for making stupid comments. He is like a p1ssed off black republican version of Joe Biden.

kaltes on April 11, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Sure if Joe Biden hadn’t gotten deferments not to serve in the U.S. military, and fight in Vietnam. And if Joe Biden was a decorated U.S. Army Officer, who was the US Army ROTC Instructor of the Year in 1993, attended the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College in 1997, and served in Iraq, sure Joe Biden is just like West in as much as they both work in D.C…yeah I can see how “you” would confuse the two/

Dr Evil on April 11, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I just watched a segment about this on Fox Business News, Lou Dobbs was commenting on Rep Allen West’s Red Remarks LOL!

Dr Evil on April 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM

What, exactly, am I missing?

ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM

You are missing being lock step with her take.

Bmore on April 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

that there really is a big difference between state-run socialized medicine and federally-run socialized medicine?
What, exactly, am I missing?
ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Pretty much everything?

Buy Danish on April 11, 2012 at 9:04 PM

What, exactly, am I missing?

ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 8:25 PM
You are missing being lock step with her take.

Bmore on April 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Congrats! You are now # 62,748 and #62,749 on the Pastry Peddler’s sh!t list. Wear it with pride.

katy the mean old lady on April 11, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Palm Beach Post? EL OH EL pinko rag (leftist journo for the sarc impaired) Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade. If it wasn’t for Cubans and some condo commandos these places would be blue and worse than they already are.

John Kettlewell on April 11, 2012 at 9:16 PM

katy the mean old lady on April 11, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Thanks HON.

Bmore on April 11, 2012 at 9:20 PM

katy the mean old lady on April 11, 2012 at 9:14 PM

It just occurred to me. I’m in good company. You get to take #62,750

Bmore on April 11, 2012 at 9:31 PM

I made some of the connections before Glenn Beck did.

ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Alex Jones makes ALL of Beck’s connections then Beck steals them did you make them before Jones?

DBear on April 11, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Davod Horowitz, a once-upon-a time Leftist who grew up as a Red-diaper baby, created Discover the Networks that links loads of the communist sympathizing groups and their leaders. They may call themselves Socialists or Progressives, but the objective is the same.
Explore to your heart’s content. This project has taken years to research and perfect.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/

onlineanalyst on April 11, 2012 at 9:56 PM

New Flash for anyone who still has Cranial-Rectal Displacement Syndrome, (looking at you Allahpundit) Senator Joesph McCarthy was 100 percent right about the Communists and anyone afraid to say so is a COWARD.

SWalker on April 11, 2012 at 7:17 PM

And Ann Coulter wrote an excellent, well-researched book called Tyranny, which details the exoneration of Senator Joe McCarthy and unravels the web of Communist sympathizers in the US during the post-WWII period.

onlineanalyst on April 11, 2012 at 10:13 PM

How dare you accuse us of having Democrats as members?

OUCH! LOL

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 11, 2012 at 10:30 PM

“It’s just guilt by association taken to an extreme,”

Even someone stupid enough to be an actual “card carrying” Communist knows that they’re evil.

Alex Jones makes ALL of Beck’s connections then Beck steals them did you make them before Jones?

Alex Jones is a scumbag and his followers are nitwits.

single stack on April 11, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Davod Horowitz, a once-upon-a time Leftist who grew up as a Red-diaper baby, created Discover the Networks that links loads of the communist sympathizing groups and their leaders. They may call themselves Socialists or Progressives, but the objective is the same.
Explore to your heart’s content. This project has taken years to research and perfect.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/

onlineanalyst on April 11, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Excellent site. David’s autobiography, “Radical Son,” is also very illuminating.

PatriotGal2257 on April 11, 2012 at 11:35 PM

More on Bertha Lewis, from David Horowitz’s site…

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2459

ITguy on April 11, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Why are leftists still ashamed of who they are? How they lean? Wouldn’t that be clue #1 to change some positions, if discovery of such lead to such shame?

MNHawk on April 12, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Leftists have been trying to mainstream communism since the 1960′s.
Personally, I’m glad to see the tag still carries a stigma, as well it should. Communism is serfdom.

If calling them out as de facto communists makes them squirm, you know it hits close to home. Good.

petefrt on April 12, 2012 at 8:05 AM

onlineanalyst on April 11, 2012 at 9:56 PM

No one knows the left better than David Horowitz. Ever since reading his Radical Son, he’s been a hero of mine.

petefrt on April 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM

West was never on the short list for VP. He’s in no danger of ever being VP, even if asked to be Mitten’s running mate as Mittens won’t beat Obama. Conservatives are tired of getting poked in the eye by the progressive owners of the GOP and may check Mitten’s name on the ballot, but that’s all they will get.

Dole makes Mittens look like a midget, and he was a disaster. There isn’t enough of a difference between the Kenyan and Mittens to matter.

Quartermaster on April 12, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Communists to Allen West: How dare you accuse us of having Democrats as members?

…And that headline is what makes coming here to read worth it. Allah, my Man, you have a serious funny bone.

Subsunk

Subsunk on April 12, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Well, I pulled the SAME LIST early in 2010! This is the same list West is talking about. Maybe West should have just said “socialist Marxists” rather than “communists.” There really isn’t a whole lot of difference. Communism certainly “embraced” Karl Marx!

DixT on April 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM

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