Breaking: Zimmerman to be charged in Martin shooting; Update: Zimmerman arrested, charged with 2nd-degree murder

posted at 2:56 pm on April 11, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

So says the Washington Post:

Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting ofTrayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face. …

Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.

The latest update on the case before now was that his attorneys had resigned from the case, and that they had lost contact with Zimmerman.  Given the bounties that groups like the New Black Panther Party tried to put on his head, his disappearance is somewhat understandable.  Today, former Zimmerman attorney Hal Uhrig expanded on what he knew about Zimmerman’s whereabouts:

“You can stop looking in Florida,” Uhrig told reporters. “Look much further away than that.”

A few days ago, I wrote that we needed to let the investigation proceed and have the facts established on the record, rather than to continue speculating through the prism of media bias and competing agendas, as has been the case for the last couple of weeks.  If the Post proves accurate with this report, it appears that the special prosecutor in the case has found evidence that Zimmerman’s use of lethal force does not meet the statutory requirements for its use in self-defense.  That evidence will have to be weighed by a jury, and they will have to decide whether the prosecutor can prove that case to a reasonable doubt.

Of course, a trial can’t start until Zimmerman returns to the jurisdiction, if in fact he’s left it at all.  But thanks to the way that this case has been handled by the media and by activists, there will be some reasonable doubt as to whether Zimmerman can get a fair trial.  Media outlets broadcast defamatory and false information about Zimmerman, and some even became activists themselves in the case.  Florida should be able to find twelve people who can fairly judge the evidence presented at trial and only that evidence, but it won’t be an easy task to seat such a panel.

Finally, as I suspected all along, the Stand Your Ground law appears to have nothing to do with this case (although it still might be argued by the defense, of course).  If the law was a problem, the prosecutor wouldn’t be able to file charges against Zimmerman.  This case will hinge instead on the normal, core self-defense laws governing the use of lethal force.  Let’s hope we can all wait to see the evidence and weigh it properly in that context when the time comes.

Update: CNS News provides more insight on why Stand Your Ground is irrelevant in this case, courtesy of Ken Blackwell and Ken Klukowski of Liberty University School of Law:

Under any version of the facts, Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law did not apply in the Trayvon Martin incident. If Zimmerman pursued a confrontation with Martin, then Zimmerman was an attacker and cannot claim SYG. If Zimmerman’s account is true that he was on the ground and Martin was on top of him, then retreat was impossible, so there would be no duty to retreat anyway. A victim in such a situation can use deadly force, but only if he reasonably believes he is being attacked with deadly force.

To our knowledge, that is the law in all fifty states. It was the law before SYG statutes were ever passed, and SYG did nothing to change it.

So why is this not common knowledge after all the reporting on the Martin shooting? Tragically, some anti-gun activists are misinforming the public. They are aided by media commentators who failed the public trust by not researching and understanding the SYG issue before presuming to editorialize on it.

The police are usually not at hand when you are attacked by a criminal. The Second Amendment guarantees the right of law-abiding people to defend themselves. And laws like Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground have restored that right in states where it had been eroded, not to take innocent life, but instead to preserve it.

Be sure to read it all, as they also discuss the high standard involving the legitimate use of lethal force.

Update II: The prosecutor filed second-degree murder charges, and the AP reports that Zimmerman has been arrested:

The neighborhood watch volunteer who shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was arrested and charged with second-degree murder Wednesday after months of mounting tensions and protests across the country.

George Zimmerman, 28, could get up to life in prison if convicted in the slaying of the unarmed black teenager.

Special prosecutor Angela Corey announced the charges but would not discuss how she arrived at them or disclose other details of her investigation, saying: “That’s why we try cases in court.”

Second-degree murder is typically brought in cases when there is a fight or other confrontation that results in death and but does involve a premeditated plan to kill.

Manslaughter would have been another option, so it’s interesting that she went with murder two.  I assume that this means the prosecution believes they can prove that Zimmerman pursued Martin and shot him, but we’ll know more when the preliminary hearing comes.

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This will blow up in Obama’s lap. And Holder will light the fuse.

Western_Civ on April 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

let he media feeding frenzy commence…

mjbrooks3 on April 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face. …

Aggravated Not Dying.

Kent18 on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Mark my words…. this trial is going to set up a “Rodney King” situation if there is any other verdict than guilty.

I watched L.A. burn.

We’re going to see a replay of lawless chaos.

I wonder if the Korean grocers are up to it this time around?

cane_loader on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I’m sure all the threats of race riots had nothing to do with her decision, yay for lynch mobs!

/

clearbluesky on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Shallow grave.

eforhan on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

When are the NBP characters going to be charged? Hmmmm???

NJ Red on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

No surprise. Bypassing the grand jury process made this a forgone conclusion. Justice is not being sought in this case.

NotCoach on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I see the Sharptons of the world flipping out that he’s not charged with Murder One.

If Florida charges him with anything above manslaughter, they’re going to spend a lot of money to have him walk.

teke184 on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

He may be guilty…..but I find what has happened to him
truly despicable.

ToddPA on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Coming Soon: The Sanford Riots

Kingme on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Any charges against the NBP’s..?

d1carter on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I’m sure that the trial will be after the election…which is probably the strategy here…

PatriotRider on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Law and order: I’m going to charge you with something, i just haven’t figured out what.

aniptofar on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

He’s in Peru.

JPeterman on April 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Now that Florida is going to charge George Zimmerman, I want to see everyone that has been “demanding justice” to start screaming for justice for Luis Avila, who was shot and killed by an African-American homeowner, Lee Cobbler, in Texas:

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Homeowner-Kills-Burglar-in-Dallas-040912#ixzz1rak658LQ

Neighbours said they saw a couple of kids who looked like they were up to no good RUNNING FROM THE HOUSE. THEY ALSO HEARD FIVE GUNSHOTS, A PAUSE AND THEN THREE MORE SHOTS.

Where’s Rev. Al? Where’s Jesse Jackson? Where’s Barack Obama? Where’s Eric Holder? Where’s NBC? Where’s ABC? Where’s NPR? Where’s the NYT? Where’s the rest of the MSM?

Resist We Much on April 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Littering?

NoDonkey on April 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I really hope when the dust settles we can all hold hands, sing cum bah yah, and together figure out the best way to prevent registered Democrat Hispanic neighborhood watch captains from taking the law into their own hands.

Kataklysmic on April 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

If I were Zimmerman the murder, I would want to go to court if I truly know the facts will show that I am innocent. Because without a trail people will always think I got away with murder. Let it come out in the open for all to see.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

great way to repeat the Rodney King fiasco…..I am sure Corey wants an Obama administration position so she brings this to trial, thanks to NBC, there is no way this guy gets a fair trial and soon, another race riot all over again…

Somewhere in the Oval Office, there are some feet up on the desk with a BIG smile on his face….

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

SDarchitect on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I notice that Holder met with Sharpton today, and sent the prosecutor a little message: “The DoJ will be investigating.”

In other words, “Prosecute, or we will go after him AND you.”

Zimmerman is not helping himself by running, talking to the prosecutor without his attorneys present, etc.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

A few days ago, I wrote that we needed to let the investigation proceed and have the facts established on the record, rather than to continue speculating through the prism of media bias and competing agendas, as has been the case for the last couple of weeks

.

That should have never been part of the equation. And even if the special prosecutor decided there were no applicable charges, Holder had already decided to pursue the case. What a mess!

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Problem is Zimmerman will have to be found guilty or you’ll get riots. Media has already found him guilty and hence people will just say Rick Scott and the Tea Party set him free (even though the prosecutor came before Rick Scott or the Tea Party).

Zaggs on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

You don’t look smart posting that.

I’ll wait for the evidence before I make my judgement about Zimmerman’s innocence or guilt. Most people here have been rightfully concerned about the media’s rush-to-judgement, high-tech lynching – and apparently you approve of that.

Greg Toombs on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Justice By Mob

BigGator5 on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I see the Sharptons of the world flipping out that he’s not charged with Murder One.

If Florida charges him with anything above manslaughter, they’re going to spend a lot of money to have him walk.

teke184 on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Yep. The State will make the same mistake that it did with Casey Anthony with a lot less evidence.

Resist We Much on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I see people lying to get on that jury…

PatriotRider on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

A jury of hispanic peers will let him walk and I will give a hearty OJ laugh about it all.

SirGawain on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.
social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Idiot. You idiot. You fucktards made it about race right off the bat. This amateur in the oval office fanned the flames. People can do wrong things without race being a component.

The media edited tapes. Preferred certain photos.

Panthers put bounties out.

It’s all been so absurd.

blatantblue on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

But if he’s convicted of a felony, how’s he going to vote for Obama?

KingGold on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Haven’t we learned to stop listening to what the Washington Post and the rest of the news media are reporting about this case? I’ll wait to hear this from Corey herself. In the meantime, support a fair trial and donate here:

therealgeorgezimmerman.com

Crusty on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

The New Black Panther Party savages should be able to appear in the courtroom, with clubs and pipes … ya know … the way they were able to appear in front of a polling place.

I know that Holder wouldn’t mind … and neither would Obamuh, nor the Congressional Black Caucus, nor any of the other Democrats in Congress.

After all, the Caucasian Latino is guilty … because his actions involved somebody with black skin.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I think maybe the real reason you stayed out of this is because your thinker isn’t up to the task of having an adult conversation. If you truly cannot comprehend that the ridiculous political theater this has become demands Zimmerman be charged whether or not he should be, you are a truly blinkered individual.

NotCoach on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

IMHO the special prosecuter is using this as a launch pad for her personal ambitions for political office.

McCain Hater on April 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM

We know the case won’t be tried in south florida which leaves the jacksonville area or the panhandle. If i’m the defense, i chose the panhandle. The panhandle is conservative and pro gun.

IMHO, there is zero chance of conviction unless there is some astounding piece of evidence in hiding.

aniptofar on April 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM

He may be guilty…..but I find what has happened to him
truly despicable.

ToddPA on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Trial-by-mob is despicable.

Bitter Clinger on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Good. Manslaughter seems likely to be the charge. May Martin’s family feel at least a little comfort from this. RIP, Trayvon.

McDuck on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

He’s already been convicted by the media and we still don’t know what went down aside from St. Trayvon getting capped.

Bypassing the Grand Jury is very suspect in an SD case but then this prosecutor is special.

CorporatePiggy on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Most he’ll be charged with is 2nd degree manslaughter. Short of Murder One and the chair, this will be proclaimed as a sellout.

michaelo on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

If he knows he’s going to be charged he might as well run, he knows that he will never get a fair trial and he will go to prison — a death sentence no matter what the charge.

clippermiami on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Weren’t you banned, l4l ?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Weren’t you banned, liberal4life?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It’s only fitting that America start having show trials. After all, they were all the rage in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

It’s time for them, here.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Rumor has it that Zimmerman was seen leaving Florida in a white Bronco.

robertnyc212 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I think maybe the real reason you stayed out of this is because your thinker isn’t up to the task of having an adult conversation. If you truly cannot comprehend that the ridiculous political theater this has become demands Zimmerman be charged whether or not he should be, you are a truly blinkered individual.

NotCoach on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

+100.

Yep.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Holy duplicate comment, batman!

lorien1973 on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

You don’t look smart posting that.

I’ll wait for the evidence before I make my judgement about Zimmerman’s innocence or guilt. Most people here have been rightfully concerned about the media’s rush-to-judgement, high-tech lynching – and apparently you approve of that.

Greg Toombs on April 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I don’t approve of rushing to his defense of accusing him of murder.

The vicious left wing media wanted to hang him and the right wing media wanted to prove his innocence. BOTH were wrong.

But now since he is going to be charged the left wingers can accuse conservatives for defending a racist. I’m just being objective here. I call it as I see it

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Every witch hunt needs a witch to be burned.

rubberneck on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Why is this still a story?

milcus on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Really? I saw people reminding others that we live in a country where everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence, due process, and fair play. I saw people outraged by the railroad job that the irresponsible politicians, journalists, and race-hustlers were conducting.

Today, I see you have already convicted him. Should I remind you that everyone is entitled to a defence? John Adams defended the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. Should we skip the prelim, trial, deliberations, sentencing, and just go straight to the hanging tree?

Perhaps, you might like a different perspective…

A National Travesty

Then, again, probably not….

Resist We Much on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

People need to calm down and let the process play out. Can’t stand the knee jerk, sensationalist converage.

therightwinger on April 11, 2012 at 3:07 PM

All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

He’s being charged, not convicted…yet at least. Being charged does not equate to guilt.

Bitter Clinger on April 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Law and order: I’m going to charge you with something, i just haven’t figured out what.

aniptofar on April 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Ha Ha — I had that happen many years ago when I did a Y-turn in a one horse town. The constable was looking through his book looking for something to charge me with, but couldn’t find anything that applied… I expect he was hoping I had been drinking.

Dasher on April 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Most he’ll be charged with is 2nd degree manslaughter. Short of Murder One and the chair, this will be proclaimed as a sellout.

michaelo on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Well, we know that he can’t be charged with first degree murder since there is no indictment.

Resist We Much on April 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Good bet that the directive came down from Obama/Holder to stoke the fire.

bhawknine on April 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

As long as he isn’t being sacrificed on the altar of racial appeasement.

Maybe there is a state that would refuse to extradite unless his safety (and fair trial) is guaranteed.

cozmo on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Rumor has it that Zimmerman was seen leaving Florida in a white Bronco.

robertnyc212 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

+10

PatriotRider on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Just time to let all the facts come out. I think it was probably self defense.

El_Terrible on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I think maybe the real reason you stayed out of this is because your thinker isn’t up to the task of having an adult conversation. If you truly cannot comprehend that the ridiculous political theater this has become demands Zimmerman be charged whether or not he should be, you are a truly blinkered individual.

NotCoach on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

+100.

Yep.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

But thanks to the way that this case has been handled by the media and by activists, there will be some reasonable doubt as to whether Zimmerman can get a fair trial.

I heard the same Democrat kangaroo “court” that heard “testimony” from Sandra Fluke wants to “hear” this case.

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM

If the Post proves accurate with this report, it appears that the special prosecutor in the case has found evidence that Zimmerman’s use of lethal force does not meet the statutory requirements for its use in self-defense.

Ed, not necessarily. The post may be inaccurate or the prosecutor is to frightened not to take it to a jury. If a jury lets him walk she’s off the hook. Will jurors be too frightened or biased to guarantee impartiality and objectivity?

This will be a circus.

dogsoldier on April 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

You’re right. Standing up for due process and not lynching someone before there is evidence certainly is stupid and racist. /sarc

Scrappy on April 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM

If the state doesn’t get a conviction I reckon Holder will come up with something on the federal level.

And then there’s the possibility that Zimmerman is in a country with no extradition treaty. Or he may be able to fight extradition on the grounds that he can’t get a fair trial in US now the NBC et al have libeled him and the president himself has stupidly chimed in on the case for his own political gain.

forest on April 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Lynching Phase II.

VorDaj on April 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM

But now since he is going to be charged the left wingers can accuse conservatives for defending a racist. I’m just being objective here. I call it as I see it

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Is there any evidence Zimmerman’s a racist? We know he didn’t utter a racial slur on the 911 call, and we also know that he said nothing about Martin’s race until prompted. Apart from the fact that Martin was black and he is half-white, how are conservatives “defending a racist?”

And for that matter, were there that many of us defending him? I, for one, didn’t comment any further than my anger at the media and the usual suspects for trying to kindle racial tensions in this country.

KingGold on April 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

[Comment deleted, user banned -- Ed]

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

No chance of a fair trial with the likes of you.

cozmo on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

ALL who leapt, or leap, to any conclusions, are utter fools.

Biggest fool of them all, Obama.

He is a cretin in many ways, creepy beyond belief in this one.

If he had a son, he’d likely look like his own mother, as genes are inherited often from their grandparents.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

You mean like an abortion or something?

Scrappy on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

We know the case won’t be tried in south florida which leaves the jacksonville area or the panhandle. If i’m the defense, i chose the panhandle. The panhandle is conservative and pro gun.

IMHO, there is zero chance of conviction unless there is some astounding piece of evidence in hiding.

aniptofar on April 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM

There isn’t an ice cube’s chance in H*ll of a change of venue. They are going to convict him, he is going to prison. Guilt or innocence don’t matter, truth left the station when Obama and Holder, Sharpton and Jackson whipped up the blood in the water. If Zimmermann is smart he’s someplace with no extradition treaty.

clippermiami on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

May the New Black Panthers place a bounty on your head too, with the outright aiding and abetting of Eric Holder’s DOJ.

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Baltimore Cops: Beating, Stripping & Robbing a White Man Is Not a Hate Crime (Video)

Offered without comment.

Kent18 on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I still don’t believe in hate crime laws. But if they exist, they need to be applied equally. Hate is a two-way street.

Bitter Clinger on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

You belong in a lynch mob.

VorDaj on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Shall we, then, just dispense with the trial?

rogaineguy on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

But if he’s convicted of a felony, how’s he going to vote for Obama?

KingGold on April 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

If he’s a Democrat, that won’t be a problem.

Mr. Arkadin on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

If the Post proves accurate with this report, it appears that the special prosecutor in the case has found evidence that Zimmerman’s use of lethal force does not meet the statutory requirements for its use in self-defense.

Sometimes you are too credulous for you own good Ed. For the sake of justice and respect for the rule of law I would expect all prosecutors to only bring charges when it is warranted to do so. But Zimmerman was going to be charged no matter what the evidence may show. In this particular case charges being brought does not in any way assuage the belief that many of us have that this may be a modern day lynching. Let’s hear the evidence as presented in a trial first. Don’t be surprised though if the evidence ends up lacking any merit.

NotCoach on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Conservatives weren’t defending him. They(along with myself) were urging everyone to chill the F out, let the investigation proceed, and wait for the facts to emerge. I was under the impression a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And BTW, I personally always thought a manslaughter charge would be the ultimate outcome, so I’m not exactly a Zimmerman apologist here.

The problem now is that the man cannot receive a fair trial in Sanford or maybe anywhere else in the country. There’s no way the jury won’t feel pressure to return a guilty verdict lest there be an outbreak of riots(ala 1992 in LA). I hope he didn’t flee the state(or country) as that would result in riots immediately, but part of me can’t blame the dude for choosing the life of a fugitive than submit himself to mob justice.

Doughboy on April 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

I’ve seen this movie before. Some cop kills someone in self defense and gets thrown to the wolves because the local politicians got cold feet. They’re scared because the racial arsonists are threatening a riot. The jury find the guy “not guilty” because there was no case to begin with and …tada!…we get the riots anyway. The only difference here is that we have a cop wannabe instead of an actual cop.

Tomolena1 on April 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Mark my words…. this trial is going to set up a “Rodney King” situation if there is any other verdict than guilty.

I watched L.A. burn.

We’re going to see a replay of lawless chaos.

I wonder if the Korean grocers are up to it this time around?

cane_loader on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

“If you call it a riot, it sounds like it was just a bunch of crazy people who went out and did bad things for no reason. I maintain it was somewhat understandable, if not acceptable. So I call it a rebellion.” — Maxine Waters

ShainS on April 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

They should come to your house and kill your entire family for preemptive self defense.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Now you lefty’s are advocating murder.

cozmo on April 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I hope so for all families.

I also hope that Lady Justice prevails in a land which is supposed to still be free.

May Obama, Sharpton and Holder go to Hades for fueling the flames…and Jackson too.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Baltimore Cops: Beating, Stripping & Robbing a White Man Is Not a Hate Crime (Video)

Offered without comment.

Kent18 on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

“Baltimore is a dirty, ugly city.”

NoDonkey on April 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

They should come to your house and kill your entire family for preemptive self defense.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

And what exactly does that mean?

JPeterman on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

I hate to say this, but I could easily see his body turn up somewhere in the coming days. Will he get a fair trial? No. Will the NBP keep demanding his head on a platter? Yes. Will Sharpton and Jackson back off if the charge is anything less than first degree murder (which has to go to a grand jury, so it won’t be) ? No. I could see him ending it all rather than go through this farce of a trial.

Xyz22 on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Weren’t you banned, liberal4life?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Nope, looks like she’s still around:

Let me ask you one question sir..

Do Mormons believe Mary was still a virgin when Jesus was born?

liberal4life on February 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Did God have a physical relationship with Mary?

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 12:26 PM

(unless of course you find it easier to believe that two independant commenters are hung up on the same obscure question)

Kataklysmic on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

That is way over the line and reported.

dogsoldier on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

..and the media to Hades as well, the charlatans who’re derelict of their duties, only with a Utopian agenda.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Shall we, then, just dispense with the trial?

rogaineguy on April 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

No we shouldn’t but It is not looking good for him.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Trial-by-mob is despicable.

Bitter Clinger on April 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

So is summary execution by neighborhood “watchman.”

cjw79 on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Let’s sacrifice this guy Zimmerman. The gods demand a sacrifice.

countdown to the deafening silence from the entire GOP… Yes, yes we believe in the right to own and defend oneself with a fireman but Trevon Martin was african american so…. Let’s stay far away from this one. I mean , we all want to get rid of Obama, right? We can’t let our principles or an innocent man’s right to a fair process get in the way.

BoxHead1 on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I agree. However, I don’t believe this comment of yours has any concern with true justice. Tell me, do you think OJ Simpson was guilty?

Bitter Clinger on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Welcome back liberal4life. It’s be fun watching you try to be a conservative the past couple days. The pretense of wanting McConnel as VP was particularly hilarious in light of your shreiking about him passing the ultrasound rape law in VA.

Your adversion to punctuation and inability to form a coherent sentence with anything longer than 5 words was a dead giveaway.

That and your inability to spell the work plague.

It must have been really hard to refrain from your usual bigotry.

Oh well, carry on.

HumpBot Salvation on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

I hope you and your family never have to face this type of tragedy of somebody MURDERING one of your own and the MURDER going free

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I hope nobody in my family threatens to kill anyone, breaks their nose, then repeatedly bangs their head on the sidewalk.

faraway on April 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Reason why I stayed out of this.
All conservatives who defended him now look stupid and racist.

?? We are stupid and racist if we don’t say anything. Everybody that does not agree with the leftist hucksters are categorically racists in their view of things. Have you been under rock for the past three and a half years?

There are going be to be whites assaulted or killed, via social media incitement, but that is nothing compared to what will take place in Florida. If Zimmerman is declared guilty, Hispanics will be upset and may riot. And you know what acquittal will mean. This is going to have an ugly outcome regardless and you can thank the Sharptons and the media for it. You are chiding the wrong people, social-justice.

After several weeks of coverage, I am very upset with their biased editing of the 911 tape. The media will never take responsibility for the all the social unrest that will ensue. It is despicable.

mwbri on April 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Why does this dingbat have to wait? Why the need for a press conference? Why the need for an “event?” Why not just announce the charges?

The country really is resembling a banana republic more and more…

MNHawk on April 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

They should come to your house and kill your entire family for preemptive self defense.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

You’re not inciting violent now are you? That might get you banned.

Scrappy on April 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

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