Allen West: I’ve “heard” 80 House Democrats are members of the Communist Party

posted at 12:46 pm on April 11, 2012 by Tina Korbe

This story has already gotten a lot of comment action in Headlines, but, given all the talk about Allen West for vice president, it seems to merit a full-fledged post, as well.

At a town hall event in Florida yesterday, West warned his constituents that he’s “heard” that as many as 80 House Democrats are members of the Communist Party. He didn’t name names, but the House has just 190 Democrats, so, if West is right, that means about 42 percent of House Ds consider themselves communists.

In this post, I want to explore two questions: (1) How plausible is it that such a sizable percentage of Democrats in the House of Representatives really prefer a centrally planned economy to a free market economy? and (2) Was it politically savvy or politically stupid of Allen West to make this statement?

The answer to the first question is easier than the second. West’s “80″ number might seem a little high, but it’s not hard to believe that, out of the many democratic socialists or social democrats in Congress, at least a fraction would go so far as to say they favor outright central planning and control of the means of production. Others might not definitively think a communist scheme of social organization is optimal but would consider it somehow preferable to democratic capitalism.

To answer the second question, we have to acknowledge that the word “communism” still has a very negative connotation to the average American, even as some of the ideas that fuel or lead to communism (e.g. the mind of man is all there is, history progresses linearly and inexorably toward collectivism, etc.) have become surprisingly widespread. Consequently, even those who admit the appeal of communist ideas or acknowledge themselves to have been influenced by those ideas will shy away from the actual label of “communist.”

It has puzzled me for some time that socialists and communists are so unwilling to call themselves by name — but, the more I read of history, the more I understand. My generation might not understand what communism really is, but we have some underlying sense that it has been broadly rejected by free and thinking peoples and we really wouldn’t have much appetite to hear ideas from someone who outright identified himself with a failed theory of social organization. Like any young people, though, we’re susceptible to making ourselves our own gods — so we’re still susceptible to the allure of the ideas of communism.

We also have to acknowledge that the average American — including the average young American — thinks that nobody today would actually embrace the failed theories that led to the bloodiest century in human history. We can conceive of anti-capitalism and crony capitalism, of a big-government approach to the solution of all problems — but outright socialism or communism? That seems like a stretch. That means that, at the same time that socialists and communists are unwilling to claim their ideas, opponents of those ideas are unwilling to label socialists and communists as such for fear of acquiring the “extreme” or “out-of-touch” label.

That’s the risk Allen West has brought upon himself with his remarks. We’ve seen West risk the “extreme” label more than once. The most ready example of his bravery is in his unflinching elucidations of what does and does not constitute racism. His past teaches us to expect that he’s unconcerned about whether these remarks earn him the label “out-of-touch.” (Incidentally, liberals can’t accuse him of fear-mongering in this instance unless they’re willing to concede that there is something in communism to fear. Then again, I suppose they would argue that it’s not that there is something in communism to fear so much as there is a common perception that there is something in communism to fear.)

At any rate, it probably wasn’t politically savvy of West to say this if he’s interested to win the VP nod. Mitt Romney has shown every sign of wanting to moderately defend conservative ideas and West doesn’t often moderate his rhetoric. It was savvy, though, if he’s looking primarily to solidify his reputation as a heedless-of-the-consequences speaker of the truth, a man who calls ‘em as he sees ‘em.

Update: According to this tweet, a spokesperson for Allen West said he was referring to the Progressive Caucus when he said 80 members of the House are communists. Meanwhile, a reader e-mailed me to note that it is beyond any kind of dispute that a number of House Democrats are members of the The Democratic Socialists of America. In 2009, DSA released the names of 70 such Democrats, many of whom still serve in the House.


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All we need is an Alger Hiss to prove it…

mjbrooks3 on April 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM

C’mon West don’t go there.

Swerve22 on April 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Obama is an eunuch.

80 is a low estimate.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Anyone/West, or

West/Anyone

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Right after a post about Democrats being paranoid about ALEC and the Koch bros.? Really?

Scrappy on April 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I “heard” Allen West is a self-deluded clown who makes idiotic statements to keep his otherwise insignificant life in the media.

inthemiddle on April 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Jeez, the party itself has a Progressive Caucus and Bernie Sanders is a bust-out admitted Socialist.

Alternate headline: Water is Wet.

Rixon on April 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

(2) Was it politically savvy or politically stupid of Allen West to make this statement?

Who cares? It is the truth. He is a real mensch/man, an utter rarety in Congress and in the U.S., unfortuantely and so regretfully.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

A man that would say something like that is a man who would fire a pistol close to a prisoner’s ear as a form of interrogation. Or, perhaps, support Pigford.

a capella on April 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

I heard there were more.

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Probably True… but not helpful as delivered.

mankai on April 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Only 80?

SAMinVA on April 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

To hell with savvy. Al West held a gun alongside the head of a suspected Iraqi insurgent IOT get homeboy to speak up about bombings that were happening in his AO. If it talks like a commie, votes like a commie, acts like a commie—then what the heck else could it be?

Tell the truth, Mr. West, and grab your gas cans…..!

ted c on April 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Only 80?

fbcmusicman on April 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Whey would they do something redundant like that if they are already Democrats?

Buddahpundit on April 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

A man that would say something like that is a man who would fire a pistol close to a prisoner’s terrorists ear as a form of interrogation to save the lives of American soldiers.

a capella on April 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

fixed it for ya champ

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

To hell with savvy. Al West held a gun alongside the head of a suspected Iraqi insurgent IOT get homeboy to speak up about bombings that were happening in his AO. If it talks like a commie, votes like a commie, acts like a commie—then what the heck else could it be?

Tell the truth, Mr. West, and grab your gas cans…..!

ted c on April 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

not only that, but he pulled the trigger too!

stones.

ted c on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Only 80 . . . why is everybody so surprised?

rplat on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Two disturbing signs why America has slid so far toward the abyss:

1. There was ‘shock’ at what Christie said yesterday, about 52% or thereabouts sitting on couches, waiting for handout, and

2. What West said on the sozi/commies in Congress.

He didn’t say it but some of them are not even Ds.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Oh gawd…he’s starting to be like Newt.
Every thing gets going good for me…but oh wait!…Let me say something off the wall!

KOOLAID2 on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Probably doesn’t include any of the crat cats that are purportedly lining up behind Ryan’s plan….

FerdtheMoonCat on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

80 seems like a low number considering how many moderate Dems were basically pushed out of their party.

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Damn the Torpedoes, Al! Full speed ahead.

ted c on April 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

I heard Allen West eats his peas one at a time.

Hous Bin-Pharteen on April 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

fixed it for ya champ

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

:)

a capella on April 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

There was a lot of badmouthing of the 1950s anti-communism “witch hunts,” but communism is such a threat to this nation that it was the right thing to do to try to ferret these people out. Fact is most of those that were “witch hunted” were members of the communist party. Not good.
Revive the hunts. ?

anotherJoe on April 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

I thought he said 80%. That would be more accurate. 80/190 seems way too low.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

The Progressive Caucus, and the Progressive movement are based on marxist ideology. I don’t know how many are out and out Eugene Van Debs communists, but they are marxists, even if they don’t admit it to themselves.

rbj on April 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

“We’re all socialists now” – Newsweak Magazine

rhombus on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

inthemiddle on April 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

He isn’t but you are 100% foolish, if not a total fool.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

They aren’t “Communists,” they’re “Progressives.” A euphemism – er, term – that even appears in the manifesto of the CPUSA.

So, it’s best to determine how many “Progressives” are in Congress. As for me, the whole cesspool stinks of “Progressives” and, therefore, of Communists.

They use euphemisms for a reason.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

McCarthy had it right all along!!

Deano1952 on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

that guy is a Master Blaster Jumpmaster and wears USMC jump wings as well. DO NOT mess with that man, he will jack your world up. If he calls you a commie, you better sound off with a “yes, Sir!” and move the f*** out.

ted c on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Who cares? It is the truth. He is a real mensch/man, an utter rarety in Congress and in the U.S., unfortuantely and so regretfully.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Fing A, man.

The Rogue Tomato on April 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I “heard” Allen West is a self-deluded clown who makes idiotic statements to keep his otherwise insignificant life in the media.

inthemiddle on April 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

In the middle of Stalin and Lenin.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Not vice presidential material.

Mitchell Heisman on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Very dumb thing to say.
First, benefit of the doubt — are they registered card carrying members of the communist party or are their beliefs simply communist in West’s opinion.
Second, imagine if a Democrat made a sweeping statement that 80 members of the house GOP were of the John Birch society or klan. It would be an equally unfair characterization absent any credible proof.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

It has puzzled me for some time that socialists and communists are so unwilling to call themselves by name — but, the more I read of history, the more I understand.

The Dems’ softness on Communism in the 40s and 50s was a huge factor in the GOP’s post-FDR revival. See: Whitaker Chambers and the Alger Hiss case.

From a historical perspective, there are two labels that can have politically fatal consequences if one can be plausibly tagged with them in post-WII America: communist and racist.

Robert_Paulson on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

It has puzzled me for some time that socialists and communists are so unwilling to call themselves by name — but, the more I read of history, the more I understand.

Yeah, the commies have quite a body count on top of their other failures – and the general tyranny of course. The reign of Terror, the Holodomor, the Great Leap Forward…rounding off the deaths to the nearest 5 million.

So anyway, they rebranded to “progressive”. They will need another new name sooner or later.

forest on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

He “heard” as in he talks to himself. Maybe Derbyshire was right, in case of certain people.

lester on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

The next surprise will be that Obama is a Marxist.

The Dem party shifted radical left in 2006, and purged all the Reagan Democrats.

Romney must describe how the radicals have taken over the Dems. And hit them hard on this.

faraway on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

The Tagline is “Wise of him to say?”

I want you to picture something. I want you to picture a firehose blasting water out of it. Then, imagine that water is money, and Democrats are holding the hose. Or, imagine a thousand devils with flamethrowers, rushing over an immense money of cash like ants, only they each have a flamethowers, and they’re burning all the money. The mountain of money represents the monetary, cultural, and spiritual wealth of America. The devils are democrats.

Now, back to your question about West. Was it wise of him to say? Who gives a f? When one side is so far past the word “irresponsible” as to border on “insane” and “possessed,” I think you may be distracted.

Herald of Woe on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Sorry, but West is being to nice to the pondscum. 80 is waaaay too low.

Take existing Dem members of the House and subtract the number who voted against ObamaCare (4 of 5?), and you got an good ballpark figure.

Norwegian on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Joe McCarthy, wo sind Sie?

timberline on April 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Obama said yesterday “I’m not really for wealth redistribution”.

Sure, you’re not, you’re for wealth destruction.

Only the dim fall for the charlatan.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/08/american-socialists-release-names-of-70-congressional-democrats-in-their-caucus/

redguy on April 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

The truth is out there.

peski on April 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM

At any rate, it probably wasn’t politically savvy of West to say this if he’s interested to win the VP nod.

Worse than that. It was a gross blunder, preposterous demagoguery that can’t be taken seriously. He just gave the Democrats a bucket full of “crazy” to paint him with. They will be dredging this one up and using it against him for a long time.

I like West, but this remark was an unforced error.

novaculus on April 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM

This is a serious charge. He MUST name names

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

The guy has always been a blow hard. The real problem with conservatives, is they prop up blow hards. Calling for this guy to be veep is embarrassing.

rubberneck on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

West must have been referring to these communists

Socialists in Congress with Ties to Communist Party USA

The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders, a self-identified socialist who had recently been elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Sanders’ CPC co-founders included House members Ron Dellums,Lane Evans, Thomas Andrews, Peter DeFazio, and Maxine Waters. The Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) was also involved in CPC’s founding and in Caucus activities thereafter; IPS continues to advise CPC on various matters to this day.

Another key player in establishing CPC was the Democratic Socialists of America(DSA), which has maintained a close alliance with the Caucus ever since. In 1997, DSA’s political director, Chris Riddiough, organized a meeting with CPC leaders to discuss how the two groups might be able to “unite our forces on a common agenda.” Among those who participated in the meeting were Bernie Sanders, labor leaderRichard Trumka, professor Noam Chomsky, feminist Patricia Ireland, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Senator Paul Wellstone, journalist William Greider, and the socialist authorBarbara Ehrenreich.

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

The Congressional Progressive Caucus has, at my last count, 83 members. I’ve read their positions. You can too.

West was ill-advised to use the word “communist,” a word that long ago was divorced from any objective definition and has decayed to a meaningless smear word. But if there is any basic economic or foreign policy principle on which the Progressive Caucus and a card-carrying 1960s Communist would disagree, I haven’t seen it yet.

tbrosz on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I was very glad to see this happen, especially after the recent speculation about West as a possible VP pick. Allen West is an ignorant, irresponsible fool and a disgrace to his office, and people need to be reminded of that from time to time. This should do it.. for a little while, at least.

Drew Lowell on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Second, imagine if a Democrat made a sweeping statement that 80 members of the house GOP were of the John Birch society or klan. It would be an equally unfair characterization absent any credible proof.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Imagine? Turn on a fricken boobtube, Bradky. #waronwomen.

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 12:59 PM

(1) How plausible is it that such a sizable percentage of Democrats in the House of Representatives really prefer a centrally planned economy to a free market economy?

How many voted for Obamacare?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

He “heard” as in he talks to himself. Maybe Derbyshire was right, in case of certain people.

lester on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Racist comment of the day from lester.

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Socialists in Congress with Ties to Communist Party USA

The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders, a self-identified socialist who had recently been elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. Sanders’ CPC co-founders included House members Ron Dellums,Lane Evans, Thomas Andrews, Peter DeFazio, and Maxine Waters. The Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) was also involved in CPC’s founding and in Caucus activities thereafter; IPS continues to advise CPC on various matters to this day.

The CPC currently has 75 members, so West is definitely lowballing his estimate.

Norwegian on April 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I think we are long overdue at looking this problem in the face. Communist are currently in charge of our government. We have a hardcore Marxist in the White House. I don’t see any reason to whisper about these facts. In fact I think it’s time to start raising HELL about it.

Axion on April 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

How do you know he didn’t co-ordinate the claim with the Romney campaign?
Mitt Romney is a man of restraint in his public speaking preferring to let facts trump spin. Obama is a master, a genius at presenting lies and spin as “common sense”. Romney needs an attacker and slasher as his VP to wage a no holds bared counter attack to a foul Obama campaign which will slander his opponent, lie about their record and cheat in every way imaginable to win on election day.

This campaign will be trashy from the Obama side which means Romney needs a running mate to take the fight to Obama while Romney does what he does best, act like the adult in the room and lay wood with the facts to Obama.

richardb on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production – every farm, factory, and shop in America – by the dictatorship of the proletariat. To be considered a communist, this is what you have to advocate.

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

I was very glad to see this happen, especially after the recent speculation about West as a possible VP pick. Allen West is an ignorant, irresponsible fool and a disgrace to his office, and people need to be reminded of that from time to time. This should do it.. for a little while, at least.

Drew Lowell on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

That perfectly describes Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Much more so than Allen West.

Monkeytoe on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Second, imagine if a Democrat made a sweeping statement that 80 members of the house GOP were of the John Birch society or klan. It would be an equally unfair characterization absent any credible proof.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Third, anything that comes out of Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s mouth.

(She has the crunchiest hair…)

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Axlerod’s message for the trolls to write seems kind of weak. Or maybe the quality of trolls is way off.

Dingbat63 on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

He MUST name names

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

That would be swell. Make sure he doesn’t miss anyone.

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Not vice presidential material.

Mitchell Heisman on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

A heartbeat away. It would liven things up, I’ll have to admit.
Watching him debate Biden would be a hoot.

a capella on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Point is about benefit of the doubt — the right demands it and should be willing to extend it — call it principle.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Second, imagine if a Democrat made a sweeping statement that 80 members of the house GOP were of the John Birch society or klan. It would be an equally unfair characterization absent any credible proof.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

LOL. I guess you never watch the news or read a newspaper.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Allen West Barack Obama is an ignorant, irresponsible fool and a disgrace to his office, and people need to be reminded of that from time to time.

Drew Lowell on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM
FIFYYDB

GhoulAid on April 11, 2012 at 1:03 PM

A communist is as a communist does. Do some research on the Congressional Progressive Caucus and draw your own conclusions.

rplat on April 11, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production – every farm, factory, and shop in America – by the dictatorship of the proletariat. To be considered a communist, this is what you have to advocate.

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

One car company at a time…

Roy Rogers on April 11, 2012 at 1:03 PM

imagine if a Democrat made a sweeping statement that 80 members of the house GOP were of the John Birch society

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

If 70 house Republicans were calling themsleves “John Birch Caucus”, why would anyone have a problem with the accusation?

Buddahpundit on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

LOL. I guess you never watch the news or read a newspaper.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I read a lot but television news and cable commentary is about as useful as trying to convince you to support a Romney campaign…

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Geez….rather than throw this little rag dolll of an opinion around, why not find out for a fact. How many registered (if that is what one does) or self-described members of the Communist Party are there in Congress??? Do some homework! Find out! Then comment on West! It’s called investigative reporting….a lost art!!!!

driguana on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production – every farm, factory, and shop in America – by the dictatorship of the proletariat. To be considered a communist, this is what you have to advocate.

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Troll fail yet again.

West didn’t say 80 of them are die hard communist who subscribe to ever tenet of communism. He said they belong to the communist party.

And yes the vast majority of Democrats do believe that.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

This was a stupid thing to do and effectively ends any notion of being veep. Dems are all commies, but you cannot accuse them of being card carrying without proof.

Southernblogger on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I only count 75 including Bernie Sanders from the Senate.

forest on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Buddahpundit on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Have 80 house members called themselves the communist caucus?

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

i’m going to repost what i wrote in the headlines about this:

the reason that Allen West is such a popular politician amongst the conservative base is because he has a rare ability to cut through the haze of political correctness and moral equivalence and address an issue in a direct and refreshingly honest fashion. Yes the democratic party are controlled by communists, you can call them marxists, maoists, socialists, progressives, whatever euphemism is to your liking, our sitting democratic president is any one of those, the man has built his presidency on a foundation of communism, it was what he was steeped in all his life.

His speech yesterday at a campaign rally discussing the Buffet rule was straight out of the communist manifesto, with it’s class envy and constant references to a “common good” and a shared “common purpose”. Many democrats follow this rhetoric and are yes communists, they simply use the democratic political process to achieve their goals instead of mass executions and gulags. It’s a part of the “new left” vanguard, it’s time to define them for who they are, it’s time to take back the narrative that they constantly cloak themselves in to advance their communist ideals, i say bravo to mr West for pushing back against the msm/democratic propaganda and calling them out.

for added clarification, 76 members of the house are part of the congressional progressive caucus, this is a euphemism for communism.

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=71&sectiontree=2,71

golembythehudson on April 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production – every farm, factory, and shop in America – by the dictatorship of the proletariat. To be considered a communist, this is what you have to advocate.

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Communist countries have never really gone this far. Functionally, communism means something slightly different. But you knew that, didn’t you?

lorien1973 on April 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Point is about benefit of the doubt — the right demands it and should be willing to extend it — call it principle.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Oh, OK, that’s your point.

Bradky outrageously outraged over outrageous, sweeping generalizations by Rep West.

Moving on.

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

These 80 Dems aren’t even good Communists. Can you help them out?

faraway on April 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I read a lot but television news and cable commentary is about as useful as trying to convince you to support a Romney campaign…

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Well then if you read a lot you should know that “Republicans are all racist, puppy eating monsters” is a daily accusation by the left. But you get your pretty little pink panties in a bunch when someone accuses the left of being, well, leftist.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

What exactly is the Progressive Caucus..?

d1carter on April 11, 2012 at 1:06 PM

“Progressive” is “liberal” is “socialist” is “communist”.

The left keeps switching labels, but their agenda never wavers.

West is correct, if anything he underestimated.

Rebar on April 11, 2012 at 1:06 PM

I don’t like painting with a broad brush..

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 1:06 PM

The better question is how many of the 190 House Dems would join Ozzie Guillen his love and adoration for Castro and Chavez. I suspect that number would be north of 150 or so.

TXUS on April 11, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production – every farm, factory, and shop in America – by the dictatorship of the proletariat. To be considered a communist, this is what you have to advocate.

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Yes, and your point is? As in the past, communism can initially be subtle and have many disguises.

rplat on April 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I for one would be happier voting for Romney if West was on the ticket.

dmn1972 on April 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

These 80 Dems aren’t even good Communists. Can you help them out?

faraway on April 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Send ‘em off to the re-education camps!

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I “heard” Allen West is a self-deluded clown who makes idiotic statements to keep his otherwise insignificant life in the media.

inthemiddle on April 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

he’s gotten a lot further in life than “inthemiddle!”

btw, those in the middle of the road get run over….

Dr. Demento on April 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I don’t like painting with a broad brush..

social-justice on April 11, 2012 at 1:06 PM

yeah, neither does olbermann

allahallahoxenfree on April 11, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I figure that the entire membership of the CBC is a start, with Rep. Bobby Rush accepting awards from the Chicago Communist Party USA and Rep. Maxine Waters threatening to nationalize the oil industry.

teke184 on April 11, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Let’s see what Democrats want:
– govt control of health care
– govt control of education
– govt control of oil producers
– govt control of auto makers
– govt run “green” technology plants

Yeah, it’s crazy to call them communists.

angryed on April 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM

“that guy is a Master Blaster Jumpmaster and wears USMC jump wings as well. DO NOT mess with that man, he will jack your world up. If he calls you a commie, you better sound off with a “yes, Sir!” and move the f*** out.”

I just sprayed coffee all over my monitor and keyboard. What a mess.

BMF on April 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Maybe not card carrying, but commie symps, certainly.

100% of Democrat politicians are corrupt incompetent scum. That’s the important number.

NoDonkey on April 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Communism entails the outright ownership of ALL means of production – every farm, factory, and shop in America – by the dictatorship of the proletariat. To be considered a communist, this is what you have to advocate.

ernesto on April 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM

That’s what the Democrats are advocating ernesto, they just don’t have all the programs up and running yet.

Axion on April 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Whether or not this is true, it was not wise of West to say this. He doesn’t know this as fact, he simply says he’s “heard” it. I admire his fighting spirit, but as a reputable Congressman, it’s better to dwell in known facts rather than highly speculative accusations. Otherwise, that “reputable” adjective disappears real fast.

Bitter Clinger on April 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Actually, West went a little further than just calling them ‘communists’. He actually said they were members of the Communist Party.

Unless he can present a CPUSA membership list, he screwed up.

faraway on April 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

It’s the same way nobody is a liberal these days, they are progressive. Communist has negative connotations so they call themselves Democrats even though there is nothing democratic about what they believe. And if there are 190 Democrats in Congress I think his tally is off by about 100.

Happy Nomad on April 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Have 80 house members called themselves the communist caucus?

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Sure sounds like they’ve aligned themselves with the communists. Let’s put it this way, if 80 house members decided to call themselves the “white sheets and burning cross caucus”, it would be fair to call them the “klan caucus” even though they didn’t actually use the word “klan”. It’s nothing but nit-picking to say otherwise.

Buddahpundit on April 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

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