What if Palin had challenged Romney instead of Santorum?

posted at 5:38 pm on April 10, 2012 by Allahpundit

Philip Klein ponders one of the most irresistible counterfactuals of the primary:

When Romney decided to seek the presidency for the second time, his moderate to liberal record in Massachusetts was bound to trigger a challenge from the right and set up a showdown, framed in shorthand, as the establishment of the party versus the conservative base. Had Palin been in the race as the conservative alternative, it would have been very difficult for Romney to attack her given the passionate following she has among many conservatives, because he wouldn’t want to risk alienating them. Even if he had ultimately triumphed after a brutal primary fight, a lot of her loyal supporters would have found it difficult to bury the hatchet for the general election.

By contrast, Santorum came into the race with a very small following and was polling in the low single digits early on. Only when a number of other hopefuls fizzled did he emerge as the conservative alternative to Romney. Don’t get me wrong, as I wrote earlier, I think Santorum raised his profile over the course of the race and proved to be a tenacious campaigner. But the point is that Santorum’s support was as much about him being a vehicle for those who wanted to stop Romney than it was about a groundswell of support for him personally. His defeat is a disappointment to his supporters, no doubt, but less likely to sting as badly for as many people as a Palin defeat would have. Now that the primary is over, it will be a lot easier for Santorum voters to get behind Romney in the general election than it would have been for Palin given her built in fan base.

Yeah, Santorum was always chiefly a “Not Romney” but Palin would have been Palin, to the point where if she had run I wonder if Mitt would have ended up as the “Not Palin” instead of her ending up as the “Not Mitt.” Hard to believe she wouldn’t have given him a much tougher race than Team Sweater Vest: She would have appealed to the same blue-collar and evangelical Republicans as Santorum did while almost certainly being better funded thanks to her supporters’ enthusiasm. The debates would have been an opportunity for her to make inroads with centrists who dislike Romney but were leery of her grasp on policy: Had she done well in those, she could have turned around some doubters while stealing Newt’s thunder as the anti-media candidate. If she had then gone on to win Iowa instead of Santorum, who knows how that would have scrambled the race in South Carolina? Maybe she wins there too as Gingrich ends up as an afterthought, and then suddenly there’s all-out war in Florida as Romney and his Super PAC flood the state with attack ads to blunt her momentum — triggering precisely the sort of resentment among her supporters that Klein imagines. Romney probably wins that hypothetical race simply because of his financial and organizational advantages and the premium placed on electability by primary voters, but I think it’d be a closer call than Romney versus Santorum was. And whatever the outcome, there would have been more bitterness at the end.

I always thought she’d run this time just because it was the best chance she’s likely to have. She was the VP nominee in the last election and less than three years out of office as governor, Romney was a weak frontrunner and the next generation of GOP stars wasn’t quite ready, Obama was a vulnerable incumbent presiding over a sluggish economy, and the tea party was looking for a candidate whom they could rally behind to show some muscle at the presidential level. None of those things is likely to be true the next time Republicans hold a competitive primary. Unless she challenges Mark Begich for Senate in 2014, I’m not sure what the path back is.

Update: Via Twitter, Ian from Conservatives4Palin catches me in a contradiction. Didn’t I once write that “she did the smart thing by staying out”? Yep:

She did the smart thing by staying out. Just yesterday, CBS found that three out of four Republicans didn’t want her to run compared to just 23 percent who did. Her favorable numbers have been underwater for ages and she would have been hammered on the inexperience charge for failing to finish her term as governor. I do think she could have emerged as the “Not Romney” in the race over Cain and a weakened Perry, but realistically there was no way to beat Mitt once it was a binary choice. His campaign pockets are too deep and undecided Republicans are too desperate to beat The One to roll the dice on a nominee who’s arguably unelectable. Once Christie decided not to get in and split the centrist vote with Romney, there was no obvious path for her (which may explain the timing of her announcement today). Worse, there was a chance that she wouldn’t even emerge as the “Not Romney”: If Perry or Cain ended up faring better than her in Iowa or South Carolina, it would have shattered her mystique as the ultimate champion of grassroots conservatives. By staying out, her supporters now get to say “she would have won if she ran” without ever having to test their theory and she gets to kinda sorta play kingmaker as people wait to see if she’ll endorse Perry, Cain, or (gasp) Romney. And who knows? Maybe she’ll focus now on challenging Begich for Senate in Alaska in 2014, which would be a huge first step back towards national viability down the road. She’s 47 years old, fully 25 years younger than McCain was when he was nominated three years ago. No rush.

That was written on October 5 of last year when I thought Santorum was destined for two percent in the polls, somewhere back of Bachmann in Iowa. I was totally wrong. The “Not Romney” sentiment among Republicans was much stronger than I expected, notwithstanding Mitt’s organizational advantages. Had Santorum been able to build just a little on his base of blue-collar and evangelical voters, he might have pulled off a gamechanger in Illinois, Ohio, or Michigan and who knows where we’d be right now. There was in fact a path for a “values”-oriented candidate with a populist touch on economics and questionable electability in the general election. With the benefit of hindsight, Palin — or Huckabee, for that matter — might have taken greater advantage of it than Santorum did. But the point I made back then is still a worthy counterargument to today’s post: If she had run and lost, would it have increased or decreased her stature within the party? If you think it would have declined, then maybe she really did make the right call in passing on the race. It all depends on what odds you would have given her (or Huck) of beating Romney. I think those odds ended up being greater than I initially thought.

Relieved to see that I was consistent about Palin vs. Begich, at least. Whew.


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She would have won the nom.

Bmore on April 11, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Absolutely. She would have mopped the floor with the back benchers.

SparkPlug on April 11, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Romney has higher negatives than Palin.

What’s the next BS argument from the PDSers.

SparkPlug on April 11, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Sarah Palin should run as Independent until Romney backs down and we get a conservative seeing as Romney is going to lose anyway.

CoolChange80 on April 11, 2012 at 2:38 AM

The Romneybots fail to note that Palin has a high favorable rating with the GOP than Romney. Heck Romney’s total favorable is only 34/50

CoolChange80 on April 11, 2012 at 2:40 AM

tom on April 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM

I’m so sick of this canard tom… He was clearly a Republican “lame duck” Governor by virtue of the 85% Democratically controlled legislature. They got passed whatever they wanted to get passed.

How can we know he was truly conservative? We have two ways to do it. We can look at what bills he signed into law, because he doesn’t WRITE the laws as Governor, he just signs them. Or we can look at what he tried to do to stop the laws from passing.

How does the Executive of the Executive branch apply power? He signs bills or he vetoes them and uses public pressure to get the reps to back down.

In Massachusetts the Governor has the line item veto, so he actually has three ways he can go… He can sign the bills and pass them as is, he can veto the bills and they go back to the legislature where the Democratically controlled legislature can over turn it and the bill gets passed as is, OR he can sign the bill and use the line item veto to try to use public pressure on reps to get those parts removed or tamped down.

The latter was his preferred method.

He applied ~800 vetoes while he was Governor, what does this tell us? To me it tells me he CLEARLY had politically philosophical differences with the legislature. Of the ~800 vetoes he wielded, around 700 of them were eventually overturned.

So it’s wrong of you and others to say that HE raised taxes, etc, etc, etc… It was CLEARLY the Massachusetts state legislature that had all the power in that political environment.

They were going to get passed whatever they wanted to get passed.

Romney is as conservative as a lot of us are. He just hasn’t had the best environment to show it yet.

He didn’t have free reign on what judges were installed in the courts, the Governors Council did (a legislature induced recommendation panel on which judges he had a choice of). When Romney left office he still had 14 judge slots left to fill and why was that? Probably because he didn’t like the choices they were feeding him and so he put off making a choice.

Quit kidding yourself and see the truth man. The Massachusetts state legislature were the real power brokers in that environment, not Romney.

So what will be different about a Romney Presidency you wonder?

Well, for one, he won’t have a Democratic super majority to deal with, that’s for sure! It will NOT be a repeat of his years as Governor where the Congress steamrolls him into LOOKING like a Democrat…

Open your eyes please, he’s not NEARLY as bad as you and others keep making him out to be.

SauerKraut537 on April 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Gee, who made Mitt run in Massachusetts? You’d think a severely conservative politician like he is would want to run in a state where he could give his conservative instincts full rein.

This is nothing but the usual cheap excuse. Mitt Romney ran in Massachusetts because he was NOT conservative, and had no intention of being conservative. He chose the state for his career, and he picked his policy positions so as to appeal to the people of the state.

He ran for governor of Massachusetts by choice, proposed Romneycare by choice, took a pro-abortion position by choice, etc.

So claims that he was forced to adopt positions he didn’t want are … kinda stupid.

His record is his record. There will be as much pressure to accommodate Democrats at the federal level as there was at the state level.

Mitt in Massachusetts is a preview of Mitt in Washington. Get used to it.

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 11, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Say what you will about Sarah Palin. She isn’t a Cult Member like Mitt Romney and she didn’t attend an Afro-Leninist Church with a Racist Pastor. Sarah Palin is a Conservative and Christian and not a Liberal member of a Pseudo-Christian Cult. Romney is terrible.

CoolChange80 on April 11, 2012 at 2:45 AM

They could have rammed it through with reconciliation, but they chose to focus on fighting an unwinnable war.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Yep. Nope

The Bush administration testified before Congress, each year, about the need to make changes to the Carter era Community Reform Act — later enlarged by Clinton — to no avail. Nut and bolt omestic issues took a backseat with the Administration and the R led Congress…

Gohawgs on April 11, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Credentialism is not a disease.

Basilsbest on April 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Yeah, it is.

Oh, there’s nothing wrong with credentials per se. But giving them more weight than they’re worth is unquestionably a bad idea.

Bragging about Romney’s academic record means absolutely nothing to being a successful president. The same for a business record. Neither one correlates to presidential success, so it makes no sense to give any weight to them.

A successful record as governor is actually pertinent, and here Mitt falls down big time. Palin accomplished more in less than 3/4 of a term than Mitt did.

Honestly, Mitt being somewhat good looking correlates more to success as a president than academics or business success, and it correlates very little.

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 11, 2012 at 2:49 AM

The more interesting question is what happens if Sarah decides to challenge the Sketchy nomination? There are more than enough people begging her to do so today.

The GOP elitists must be having ulcer problems today, and I hope their problem gets worse since they asked for it.

DannoJyd on April 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM

You aren’t listening. There are a LOT of people clamoring for a Third Party Candidate, and if Sarah chose to run …

DannoJyd on April 11, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Are you suggesting she’s going to try to deny Mitt the nomination or she’s going to make an independent third-party run? Both ideas are stupid, but for different reasons.

alchemist19 on April 11, 2012 at 2:58 AM

Are you suggesting she’s going to try to deny Mitt the nomination or she’s going to make an independent third-party run? Both ideas are stupid, but for different reasons.

alchemist19 on April 11, 2012 at 2:58 AM

In other years, sure. But people are staring the specter of a Romney candidacy full in the face, and, well, desperate times call for desperate measures……

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

I love a hair brained comedy.

Yes. The lady who quit her job as a Governor to cash in and go Hollywood is gonna ride in and save us on her bus.

Assuming she could if she tried.

IlikedAUH2O on April 11, 2012 at 6:36 AM

Now that we have gotten through another night of swooning, professions of love, and “If she ran” sentiments it is time to get realistic about the election.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-obama-thin-ice_636873.html

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 6:46 AM

I want a Calvin Coolidge in office. Read this and watch the video. As much as Americans miss RR, this is the POTUS that did the right thing-too bad he has been overlooked in history.

ProudPalinFan on April 11, 2012 at 7:06 AM

Sarah has also brought up CC on her book America By Heart.

ProudPalinFan on April 11, 2012 at 7:10 AM

I love a hair brained comedy.

Yes. The lady who quit her job as a Governor to cash in and go Hollywood is gonna ride in and save us on her bus.

Assuming she could if she tried.

IlikedAUH2O on April 11, 2012 at 6:36 AM

If every single person who has said this or written this ponied up $500,000 to PAY for all the ethics complaints-this would be a non-issue and all the haters would’ve made her richer beyond her wildest dreams.

On the same token, save Alaska from paying for liberals’ stupidities. Why have the state mess up with complaints mostly from outside the state when in those two years Alaska went from a deficit to a $12B surplus?

C’mon, cough it up. “Then she’d disappear into obscurity, just the way you want it to be.”
Half a million-paging Bueller? Bueller?

ProudPalinFan on April 11, 2012 at 7:16 AM

It is going to get very interesting around here come November 7, 2012. Romney supporters will still be trashing Gov. Palin. You’d think that if Mitt was the be all and end all of electoral politics that they would let his awesomeness speak for itself. Instead they must show up and trash the very person that Mitt is going to need in order to rally the base. If you were as smart and credentialed as you believe you are, you would be less arrogant and condescending and more conciliatory in order to gain support for your guy. The fact that you are not says a lot about who you are. You are doing your candidate no favor. It takes some smarts to keep fighting a battle you have already won. Now run along and gird your loins and armor up because you are going to be in the battle of your lives against the Obama army. Alienating potential recruits is not a winning strategy.

JannyMc on April 11, 2012 at 7:17 AM

Once again, Sarah didn’t run for one reason-her party sabotaged her the instant the libs failed to take her out for them with the great tour bus chase and the great Alaska e-mail gold rush. (Not counting the 2008 attempt by McCain’s croneys who probably had the go ahead from the elite gate-keepers. They did it exactly as does the left–through it’s punditry class;Acid-Ann Coulter, Will, Krauthammer, Noonan, Parker, then Ingraham and Coulter tag-team,..then Rove, the blustery bully Christie, even once espectable Dick Cheney, etc all came out withing weeks lest she announce.

Only and idiot would try to run in a party whose entire establishment would dare publically do such an obvious dirty trick against them.

Make no mistake -this party (GOP) doesn’t want the little people making decisions about who they ultimately will get to chose from -they lose their power and the games they play with our lives.

This is the party that loathes the Tea Party (I should say fears -for they feared it as well as Palin) This is also a party that loathes and abuses it social conservatives who ought to wake up and leave. (Why should they help those intent on using and abusing them?)

Don L on April 11, 2012 at 7:29 AM

You do realize as far as the GOP is concerned it is mission accomplished?

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Yep. Now all we have is passive resistance.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM

And resist we much. :) This is going to be fun.

Now that we have gotten through another night of swooning, professions of love, and “If she ran” sentiments it is time to get realistic about the election.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-obama-thin-ice_636873.html

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 6:46 AM

So NOW the ‘bots are getting serious about looking at the sample sizes when it comes to polls…instead of just regurgitating them when they were showing Palin to be just slightly more popular than Hitler. Romney trails Obama or is only within the margin of error in just about every poll I’ve seen. Of course though, Romney’s electricity and dynamism and overwhelming charisma are going to turn those numbers around this summer. Yessirree.

ddrintn on April 11, 2012 at 7:33 AM

They did it exactly as does the left–through it’s punditry class;Acid-Ann Coulter, Will, Krauthammer, Noonan, Parker, then Ingraham and Coulter tag-team,..then Rove, the blustery bully Christie, even once espectable Dick Cheney, etc all came out withing weeks lest she announce.

Don L on April 11, 2012 at 7:29 AM

Yeagh, and remember that weirdly synchronized batch of anti-Newt stuff from the punditry right on the eve of the Florida primary? One huge anti-Newt gob formed within about 24 hours.

ddrintn on April 11, 2012 at 7:38 AM

ddrintn on April 11, 2012 at 7:38 AM

If I didn’t know better I would think this was a strategy cooked up by the establishment elites to forever discourage any comservative from running. /s

We all know they have been on a mission since Gov. Palin’s acceptance speech in 2008. There was no way they were going to allow a Reagan comservative to gain prominence in the party. Then when the Tea Party rose up it had to be marginalized. I just wish the establishment elites would work as hard at defeating Obama as they do when it comes to conservatives. They want our votes but at the same time want us to sit down and shut up. It’s a fine line they tread because they know the natives, i.e., conservatives, are restless, but at the same time they know they need us to win. The VP choice is going to be interesting.

JannyMc on April 11, 2012 at 8:05 AM

My take.

kingsjester on April 11, 2012 at 8:06 AM

ddrintn on April 11, 2012 at 7:33 AM

Get over it – she didn’t run. No one stopped her. Take your complaints to her not others.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 8:10 AM

I just wish the establishment elites would work as hard at defeating Obama as they do when it comes to conservatives

Apparently they are working toward defeating Obama. You keep ignoring the inconvenient truth that none of the other candidates except possibly Santorum were polling anywhere close to Obama.
You provide no evidence whatsoever that some nefarious plot was cooked up in the bowels of the RNC to “defeat” conservatives.

but… JannyMc said so on the internet – it must be true!

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 8:13 AM

In other years, sure. But people are staring the specter of a Romney candidacy full in the face, and, well, desperate times call for desperate measures……

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 11, 2012 at 3:16 AM

One time, very slowly.

Filing deadlines have passed in every remaining state so even if Palin woke up today and decided to run she couldn’t get on the ballot to deny Romney 1,144 delegates, and as all delegates are bound on the first ballot at the Republican Convention, Romney will win the nomination there. Even if Reagan came back from the dead and the 22nd Amendment was repealed then Mitt would still be the nominee.

As for an independent third party candidacy, the only thing it would do is assure the re-election of Obama and make it all her fault (or at least that’s the way it will be spun) when we see a replay of 1992. There is nothing like a perfect ready-made excuse to explain away a Romney loss.

But that’s all academic because Palin isn’t going to do anything. And honestly we’ve been staring the specter of a Romney nomination square in the face since Perry imploded at the end of September. Where have you been?

alchemist19 on April 11, 2012 at 8:29 AM

So our choice will be between four more years of racist Chicago thuggery of Obama, or the Romney-Reid co-presidency where he reaches across the aisle for “modest” tax increases, “improving” Obamacare, and intelligent collegial problem solving. Fast and Furious will be so last year and would interfere with the new spirit of cooperation. Something to look forward to with great anticipation!

FirelandsO3 on April 11, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Actually Bradky, that was my opinion, and I believe it is still acceptable around here to voice an alternate opinion to yours. Here’s another useful tidbit, I don’t give a flying fig what you have to say in defense, no matter how sarcastically, of your opinion. Let’s just agree to disagree.

JannyMc on April 11, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Get over it – she didn’t run. No one stopped her. Take your complaints to her not others.

Bradky on April 11, 2012 at 8:10 AM

But but but but but…. she was sabotaged! And someone who’s so weak or has so little confidence in their ability to get their message directly to the voters, or to combat the vicious, brutal attacks like we see out of the RNC (or whoever else “The Establishment” is) was a shoo-in in November.

What kind of logical pretzels must one twist themselves in to believe a person who could be intimidated by dirty tricks and sabotage from an organization as weak and screwed up as the GOP would have mopped the floor with Obama and the Chicago machine?

alchemist19 on April 11, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Palin had experience with an organization more interested in eliminating her than winning an election. Even if she won the nomination, she would have received no help; but in fact, they would just have quietly assisted the opposition. In Ohio a few years back, when Congress raised their pay, and public was upset, the Republican hierarchy put out the word that candidate opposing an incumbent in a primary who mentioned that vote, would receive no party funds or backing. That is the way they work.
By the way, in Romney’s victory in Ohio, three out of five Republicans voted against him. He needs conservatives more than they need him.

FirelandsO3 on April 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM

We all know they have been on a mission since Gov. Palin’s acceptance speech in 2008. There was no way they were going to allow a Reagan comservative to gain prominence in the party. Then when the Tea Party rose up it had to be marginalized. I just wish the establishment elites would work as hard at defeating Obama as they do when it comes to conservatives. They want our votes but at the same time want us to sit down and shut up. It’s a fine line they tread because they know the natives, i.e., conservatives, are restless, but at the same time they know they need us to win. The VP choice is going to be interesting.

JannyMc on April 11, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Considering that the cannibalistic pork-sucking pigs said as much publicly at the time:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/07/19/trent-lott-on-tea-party-candidates-as-soon-as-they-get-here-we-need-to-co-opt-them/

it’s been no mystery that the Republican statist hell-filth have gone all in for big-gov handouts and knee-capping small-government types.

ebrown2 on April 11, 2012 at 9:12 AM

The rinos run the nomination show. Since she had campaigned on busting the establishment in AK, I’m sure they wanted no part of her. Whether we like it or not, money rules in these things. If she had run, it’s doubtful that Mitt would have made her short list for veep. Why they wanted to back a candidate like him, when he couldn’t even beat Mclame the last time is unfathomable. We don’t even know what newspapers he reads.

Kissmygrits on April 11, 2012 at 9:21 AM

SARAH PALIN 2016!

LET OBAMA WIN 2012! LET HIM DESTROY THIS COUNTRY MORE SO THAT EVERYONE EVEN THE MSM CANNOT DENY HOW IDIOTIC HIS PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN!

THAT WILL MEAN MARGINALIZING ALL DEMOCRATS AND THEIR DISASTROUS PRINCIPLES FOREVER!

FOR THE MEANTIME, MY FAMILY WILL SAVE WHATEVER CAN BE SAVED TO SURVIVE FOUR MORE YEARS OF OBAMA!

I DON’T CARE WHO’S THE RETHUGLICAN NOMINEE IN NOVEMBER!

___

That’s my decision. I don’t care what others say!

TheAlamos on April 11, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Saw this at C4P….LOL

Allahpundit on 10/5/2011: “[Governor Palin] did the smart thing by staying out….She’s 47 years old, fully 25 years younger than McCain was when he was nominated three years ago. No rush.”

Allahpundit on 4/10/2012: “I always thought [Governor Palin would] run this time just because it was the best chance she’s likely to have.”

idesign on April 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM

What we need is a president who could be pushed around by the Massachusetts legislature. Luckily he will not have to face anyone tougher than the Masshole Dems when he is the next president.

Viator on April 11, 2012 at 9:42 AM

As a candidate Sarah Palin needs to be looked at in the light of cold facts and hard reality. She is not and never will be presidential timber. Old phraseology and concept I know but it is still valid. I do not mean she is not qualified due to the main stream media assassination performed on her. Not at all. She just does not have the bonafides. Not even close. Add to that the fact that she could never win over a substantial percentage of the know nothing vote and there you have it. Conservatives need to stop thinking their dreams can win elections. The model for what works for conservatism in presidential elections is Ronal Wilson Reagan. I do not like Romney but he ‘could’ be that person. Someday Marco Rubio could. Although I think he has pulled off a Coumo. Coumo had one window of opportunity and it was open wide. He missed it. We have one chance now to save this country. Take all three branches of government and force Romney to do what must be done. Or this nation is gone.

nueces on April 11, 2012 at 10:05 AM

nueces on April 11, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Yawn….

You state no facts, but just ramble.

idesign on April 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Another fact about the possibility of Palin as president in this day and age: Wrong gender for the times. Any American with an ounce of awareness is scared spitless. We are in a war. A cultural war. A political war and approaching a hot civil war in this country. Literally we are coming apart at the seams. Societal breakdown seems imminent. You don’t send women into the front lines at a time like this. Not if you are sane.

nueces on April 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM

>>Yes. The lady who quit her job as a Governor to cash in and go Hollywood is gonna ride in and save us on her bus.

Yes.

Romney: only ran for one term; he and Lt Gov Kerry Healey “did not take a salary” (I think they may have donated it to charity). Romney admittedly was out of town a lot during the latter part of the term
(he was in from ’03 to early ’07) perhaps to start running for pres.

Unlike Ms. Palin, he did finish the term. (And while she was indeed being attacked, she could have stayed in and fought them.
Instead, to paraphrase Monty Python & Holy Grail, brave sir Sarah ran away. Bravely ran away, away…)
She did have high negatives in the poll and again, had she run you know the Dems would have run this ad:

“Sarah Palin. She says she’ll fight for you. But she quit…”

To win the final election you must not only carry conservatives but moderates, etc. Mitt might be able to do that. Not sure if
she could. But who knows. All I know is I got a kick out of
some on places like Free Republic who were deluded into thinking she would run, even after the first primaries started. One was
imagining Madame President and what she’d do–er, you have to
actually declare, win primaries, etc. He was crushed when she
finally said no to a run. It was pretty obvious by then…

raccoonradio on April 11, 2012 at 10:12 AM

And I don’t think he’d put her on the ticket (but who knows) but how many heads here or elsewhere would explode if…

http://romneypalin2012.org/

raccoonradio on April 11, 2012 at 10:21 AM

raccoonradio,

Freerepublic has reduced itself to an insular little group of deluded dreamers who all hate each other but love to bicker. They have to run a never ending begging session for money to stay alive and it gets worse monthly. They are the NPR of conservative internet sites. Most conservative webbies have long since moved on.

nueces on April 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Saw this at C4P….LOL

Allahpundit on 10/5/2011: “[Governor Palin] did the smart thing by staying out….She’s 47 years old, fully 25 years younger than McCain was when he was nominated three years ago. No rush.”

Allahpundit on 4/10/2012: “I always thought [Governor Palin would] run this time just because it was the best chance she’s likely to have.”

idesign on April 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Allahpundit exposed, completely. Yet another shill®.

the_nile on April 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM

nueces: Yes..though I still do a lot of stuff there; I run the Howie Carr show ping list and am the kind-of go-to guy about the subject of talk radio (most recently, Huckabee show and Rush moving to a new FM station in Philly soon)

raccoonradio on April 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM

LET OBAMA WIN 2012! LET HIM DESTROY THIS COUNTRY MORE SO THAT EVERYONE EVEN THE MSM CANNOT DENY HOW IDIOTIC HIS PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN!

THAT WILL MEAN MARGINALIZING ALL DEMOCRATS AND THEIR DISASTROUS PRINCIPLES FOREVER!

FOR THE MEANTIME, MY FAMILY WILL SAVE WHATEVER CAN BE SAVED TO SURVIVE FOUR MORE YEARS OF OBAMA!

I DON’T CARE WHO’S THE RETHUGLICAN NOMINEE IN NOVEMBER!

___

That’s my decision. I don’t care what others say!

TheAlamos on April 11, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Leave this place for eleven days, and look what one of you (at least) is saying . . . . . .
.
Barack Obama will NOT destroy this country “a little more.”

He will all together finish it OFF !
.
Even if you don’t believe THAT, you should vote for Mitt Romney in November over SCOTUS nominations, if nothing else.

listens2glenn on April 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Yes. The lady who quit her job as a Governor to cash in and go Hollywood is gonna ride in and save us on her bus.

Assuming she could if she tried.

IlikedAUH2O on April 11, 2012 at 6:36 AM

I love it how Mitt supporters throw out the “Hollywood cash-in” every time Palin comes up. Did it ever occur to you that one of the jobs of a Governor is to PROMOTE THEIR STATE?

While you joke about her in this capacity, I’d like to point out that she did more to promote her state after she left office than Romney has done his entire career… including while in office.

dominigan on April 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM

hahahaha…sorry. I sorta go on anti everyone screeds, except for the Newtmaster. Make no mistake though, once he takes the nomination I’m all in for mittens.

DHChron on April 10, 2012 at 8:57 PM

DH, little late to the dance on this response, but you’re all right. Damned decent, I would say. Why, this could be the start of a..

The War Planner on April 11, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Another Allahpundit post –

ANOTEHR Allahpundit Act of Schadenfreude Over Palin Not Running

THIS is “intelligent” blogging? Act afer Act of Contempt and SMUG Self-Congratulation?

How MANY TIMES is he going to REPEAT this?

THIS coupled with the HAAATE mmBOOOOOSH Schadenfreude in the other thread seem to be all he can manage.

Hate on Permanent Repeat – like a skipping record album

I’m waiting for him to take CREDIT for Palin NOT being it the race:

“HAHA – I Kept her OUT of the RACE! HAHA!! It was ME!!”

Whatever – what a waste of bandwidth.

williamg on April 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Are you suggesting she’s going to try to deny Mitt the nomination or she’s going to make an independent third-party run? Both ideas are stupid, but for different reasons.

alchemist19 on April 11, 2012 at 2:58 AM

NOTHING that keeps a liberal out of office can be called Stupid. but throwing away your convictions just to get rid of ELECTED 0bama is certainly STUPID.

DannoJyd on April 11, 2012 at 1:29 PM

AP, regarding your inquiry . . .

“What if Palin had challenged Romney instead of Santorum?”

She didn’t.

Instead, she ultimately chose to back Gingrich. I think that was a mistake, but it was probably not one that will hurt her in the future. He turned out to be tagged as this cycle’s big loser to a new generation of participants in politics . . . and many of us who all too well remembered the old Newt, suspected he would ultimately reveal himself to be just that.

Now, I like Sarah Palin. But I don’t think her “endorsement” this cycle would have even helped Rick Santorum, had she somehow chosen instead to back him.

Having declined to run herself, she probably could have benefited more by remaining neutral, and found a way to promote her own issues and ideas. She gets media attention whether she likes it or not, a fact that she has used well to her advantage — such as in her bus tour.

That was brilliant.

Of course, had she remained neutral then you and Phillip Kline might well be asking another dumb question here, such as:

“Would Gingrich have beaten Romney if Palin had backed him?”

Trochilus on April 11, 2012 at 1:29 PM

LET OBAMA WIN 2012! LET HIM DESTROY THIS COUNTRY MORE SO THAT EVERYONE EVEN THE MSM CANNOT DENY HOW IDIOTIC HIS PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN!

THAT WILL MEAN MARGINALIZING ALL DEMOCRATS AND THEIR DISASTROUS PRINCIPLES FOREVER!

FOR THE MEANTIME, MY FAMILY WILL SAVE WHATEVER CAN BE SAVED TO SURVIVE FOUR MORE YEARS OF OBAMA!

I DON’T CARE WHO’S THE RETHUGLICAN NOMINEE IN NOVEMBER!

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That’s my decision. I don’t care what others say!

TheAlamos on April 11, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Leave this place for eleven days, and look what one of you (at least) is saying . . . . . .
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Barack Obama will NOT destroy this country “a little more.”

He will all together finish it OFF !
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Even if you don’t believe THAT, you should vote for Mitt Romney in November over SCOTUS nominations, if nothing else.

listens2glenn on April 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM

listens2glenn,

I suppose all we can really hope is this:

Whatever might be the source of the condition causing this “thinking” process, one can only hope that it is an aberration of sorts, and therefore only temporary . . . NOT hereditary! It would be tragic to think of others actually “growing up” thinking that way.

Trochilus on April 11, 2012 at 1:59 PM

On Palin the bigest question is what was her game in the first place, and what took her out of the game in the second place?

I disagree Palin would have had trouble in the race. THe weaknesses of the others were glaring, and Palin has conquered the communication gap.

The Palin no one likes is the one presented by the MSM and her enemies in her own party. This long primary, and the many debates would have given her the opportunity to create her own image, and she is good at it

So the real question is why not Palin. My closest guess was first, ‘bad’ advisers, and second an imploding family

A ‘bad’ adviser is not the same as a’stupid’ adviser

Imploding families do not hurt candidates, despite what the MSM implies. Imploding families make candidates underdogs and humanize them.

entagor on April 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

If she had run, and if she had lost to Mittens, then she’d be in the traditional “it’s his turn” spot come 2016 (or 2020, barring a strong VP wanting the nom).

OhioCoastie on April 11, 2012 at 5:12 PM

McCain/Palin lost by 192 electoral votes. That is a crushing.

What states would Palin win that McCain didn’t?

The snow-billy grifter is smart enough to not touch that hot stove again. Plenty of money to be made selling books to the rubes on here folks in the “real” America.

inklake on April 11, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Make no mistake -this party (GOP) doesn’t want the little people making decisions about who they ultimately will get to chose from -they lose their power and the games they play with our lives.

This is the party that loathes the Tea Party (I should say fears -for they feared it as well as Palin) This is also a party that loathes and abuses it social conservatives who ought to wake up and leave. (Why should they help those intent on using and abusing them?)

Don L on April 11, 2012 at 7:29 AM

GOP the new Whig party ….

conservative tarheel on April 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/23/ppp-poll-palins-favorability-higher-among-republicans-than-romneys-or-santorums/

Palin’s favorability higher than Romneys.

Mitt has a hard road once he goes up against the Obama machine. They are going to dissect all of his flip flops… it will be ugly.

rightConcept on April 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM

We don’t need plain Jane, go along to get along, say anything, Mitt Romney.

We need a fighter at this point in time.

rightConcept on April 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM

What states would Palin win that McCain didn’t?

The snow-billy grifter is smart enough to not touch that hot stove again. Plenty of money to be made selling books to the rubes on here folks in the “real” America.

inklake on April 11, 2012 at 5:38 PM

I hope your mattress continues to be soaked with urine for years to come, you pathetic bedwetter…

tom daschle concerned on April 11, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I suspect Romney supporters are perfectly happy that she never got in, but the people to blame for this are: (1) the entire Republican establishment that turned on her as soon as the 2008 election was over, and failed to support her when the Left launched their all-out assault on her, forcing her from the Governor’s office; and (2) all conservatives who tried to dissuade her from running in favor of their own particular favorite back-bencher, none of whom ever had a prayer of defeating Romney.

Anybody with two brain cells to rub together knew as of November 5, 2008 that the 2012 Republican nominee was going to be Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin. If you think Romney is our best shot at Obama, then fine. You got your way. We’ll see how he does in November. But if you’re part of the 75% who wanted a “not-Romney” then you should blame yourself for not supporting Palin from Day One.

Now we’re stuck with a pretty weak nominee. He doesn’t stir the base, and he doesn’t have a broad, charismatic appeal to middle America. He can’t run against Obamacare, the most unpopular thing this President has done. He can’t run against the Wall Street bailouts. He can’t run against big government liberalism.

Don’t get me wrong, I personally sort of like Mitt Romney because he does seem like a fundamentally decent guy, and he’s smart. He’d make a good President, in my opinion and I’ll be at the polls bright and early to cast my vote for him. But I’d much rather be rolling with Palin right now. She would’ve brought contrast, charisma, energy, and integrity to the arena. Mitt’s got none of those things.

Progressive Heretic on April 11, 2012 at 11:26 PM

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