Go ask around to know the true facts.
Uppereastside on April 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

This is your argument? Really? REALLY? How old are you, nine?

Wolfmoon on April 10, 2012 at 4:15 PM

To liberals, lies and excuses are the same: you can use them over and over again… and then they are true!

I notice that uppereastside/intellectuallybankrupt hasn’t responded to any of the p3wning he got up thread; hmmmmm.

Anyway, you can tell who is a liar by who posts the same lies consistently, and that’d be the most left wing derangement syndrome types.

I do desire we may be better strangers.
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Green_Bay_Packers on April 10, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Nice one! Go Pack!

You are not saying this with a straight face are you Ed? Walker has been a disaster to Wisconsinites. He has managed to divide the state due to his far right wing policies. Then again that is what most republicans do when they manage to take over.
Wisconsin is bleeding good paying jobs. Go ask around to know the true facts. The man is a class warfare warrior.

Uppereastside on April 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I think we’ve found the Washington Post writer’s blog identity!

Given the recent votes in Wisconsin, it seems unlikely Walker could lose unless the Democrats have some better argument or propaganda than they have had so far. Yet, I’m sure that the Wisconsin MSM is driving home the Leftist talking points. Could their constant repetition of half-truths and distortions be enough for Walker to lose?

thuja on April 10, 2012 at 1:33 PM

That they are. Not surprising, really, given significant numbers of the news rooms across the state signed recall petitions.

One strategy the Democrats have been using in the Wisconsin legislature is to block any bills that might improve the jobs and economic situation in the state in order to prevent any improvement on Walker’s watch. That is upsetting the industrial unions, particularly when a large mining project was shut down by Democrats that cost a miners’ union some 5000 jobs.

The Democrats aren’t happy with the Democrats in some sectors of Wisconsin.

crosspatch on April 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM

what’s 5000 menial private sector jobs when you can add the same amount of important governement jobs.

Excatly what “disaster” has there been? That tax levys didn’t go up?

Wisconsin Department of Financial Institutions: New business formation up 12.2% in first quarter

Unemployment is down to 6.9%

Act 10, One Year Later
Even After New Contribution Levels, State Benefit Packages More Lucrative Than Private Sector Offerings

http://maciverinstitute.com/2012/04/act-10-one-year-later/

Milwaukee’s school teachers union chose to fire teachers, and other staff rather than have pay concessions (2.6%) to keep class sizes stable.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/145877085.html

You’re completely ignorant of the facts.

Green_Bay_Packers on April 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Look at all those disasters. Tax levies not going up; which limits the power of the government that should control us all.

Unemployment going down, meaning people are FORCED to work instead of living the proper life of sloth and apathy on government assistance as is desired by a more powerful government.

This is exactly the WRONG PATH to take to get to a dictatorship over a citizenry that is stripped of it’s rights and freedoms… it’s A DISASTER!

…

Or maybe he meant another disaster; but that’s all I could find.

“This recall election represents an historic opportunity for Wisconsinites to reclaim this state in favor of a leader who can create jobs, protect our local services and restore the right to have a voice at the bargaining table,”

Create jobs… ok.
Protect local services… by making sure the budget can afford them, right?
Restore the right to have a voice at the bargaining table… so taxpayers have a voice as well as government union members?

So they’re rallying the recall for Walker and they’re replacing him with Walker?

Oh, they’re trying to slow the economy, lose jobs, make local services less stable by not having a sustainable budget to pay for them, and ONLY allow Government Union Members at the bargaining table… effectively making things worse for everyone in order to line their own pockets.

Yeah… Now I can see why they went with a convoluted lie on that one.

said Jim Palmer, executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association. “For anyone to sink to the level of distorting the information it sends to its own members is shameful, and it creates the kind of internal discord that Scott Walker will need to keep his office.”

Mr. Pot? Mr. Kettle on line one. Shall I take a message?

You are not saying this with a straight face are you Ed? Walker has been a disaster to Wisconsinites. He has managed to divide the state due to his far right wing policies. Then again that is what most republicans do when they manage to take over.
Wisconsin is bleeding good paying jobs. Go ask around to know the true facts. The man is a class warfare warrior.

Uppereastside on April 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I do desire we may be better strangers.
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You are not saying this with a straight face are you Ed? Walker has been a disaster to Wisconsinites. He has managed to divide the state due to his far right wing policies. Then again that is what most republicans do when they manage to take over.
Wisconsin is bleeding good paying jobs. Go ask around to know the true facts. The man is a class warfare warrior.

Uppereastside on April 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Kaukauna Area School District projects $1.5 million surplus after contract changes to health care, retirement savings

http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20110629/APC0101/110629072/Kaukauna-Area-School-District-projects-1-5-million-surplus-after-contract-changes-health-care-retirement-savings

The savings drawn from public employee contributions to the retirement system is estimated to hit $283.7 million, according to the Legislative Fiscal Bureau.

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Pages/default.aspx

At the outset of the public-union standoff, educators had made dire predictions that Walker’s reforms would force schools to fire teachers. In February, to take one example, Madison School District Superintendent Dan Nerad predicted that 289 teachers in his district would be laid off. Walker insisted that his reforms were actually a job-retention program: by accepting small concessions in health and pension benefits, he argued, school districts would be able to spare hundreds of teachers’ jobs. The argument proved sound. So far, Nerad’s district has laid off no teachers at all, a pattern that has held in many of the state’s other large school districts. No teachers were laid off in Beloit and LaCrosse; Eau Claire saw a reduction of two teachers, while Racine and Wausau each laid off one. The Wauwatosa School District, which faced a $6.5 million shortfall, anticipated slashing 100 jobs—yet the new pension and health contributions saved them all.

The benefits to school districts aren’t just fiscal, moreover. Thanks to Walker’s collective-bargaining reforms, the Brown Deer school district in suburban Milwaukee can implement a performance-pay system for its best teachers—a step that could improve educational outcomes.

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_1_scott-walker.html

“This recall election represents an historic opportunity for Wisconsinites to reclaim this state in favor of a leader who can create jobs, protect our local services and restore the right to have a voice at the bargaining table,” said Jim Palmer, executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association.

So much for claims that the WPPA wasn’t targeted by the anti-PEU bill because it supports Walker.

You are not saying this with a straight face are you Ed? Walker has been a disaster to Wisconsinites. He has managed to divide the state due to his far right wing policies. Then again that is what most republicans do when they manage to take over.
Wisconsin is bleeding good paying jobs. Go ask around to know the true facts. The man is a class warfare warrior.

Uppereastside on April 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Um, you don’t live in Wisconsin – I do. I grew up here. I have dozens of friends here, liberal and conserative.

Excatly what “disaster” has there been? That tax levys didn’t go up?

Wisconsin Department of Financial Institutions: New business formation up 12.2% in first quarter

Unemployment is down to 6.9%

Act 10, One Year Later
Even After New Contribution Levels, State Benefit Packages More Lucrative Than Private Sector Offerings

http://maciverinstitute.com/2012/04/act-10-one-year-later/

Milwaukee’s school teachers union chose to fire teachers, and other staff rather than have pay concessions (2.6%) to keep class sizes stable.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/145877085.html

You’re completely ignorant of the facts.

And the republicans keep fighting to gut education spending. Oy vey!

Uppereastside on April 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

In 2008, O’bama won 70% of the High School Dropout Vote, which no other Presidential candidate in US History had ever done before.

You must be so Proud of Him.

Walker has been a disaster to Democrat Wisconsinites. He has managed to divide the state due to his fiscally responsble policies. Then again that is what most republicans do when they manage to take over.

Wisconsin is bleeding good paying jobs. Go ask around to know the true facts. The man is a class warfare warrior.

Dick Cheney is a War Criminal on April 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Fixed.

WI Unemployment Rate when Walker took office: 7.7%

Now: 6.9%

I would ask you for credible multi-sourced cites to prove your claim that WI is “bleeding good paying jobs” but know that you can’t be bothered with Facts.

Most of those lost “good paying jobs” you’re whining about were public sector jobs.

Wisconsin shed 14,500 public-sector jobs during Walker’s first thirteen months. That was the fifth-biggest decrease among 50 states in terms of total jobs lost, and the second biggest decrease in percentage terms (3.5%) after Texas.

In Walker’s first year in office (ending last December), Wisconsin had the 49th worst record for private-sector job growth, losing 9,700 jobs. But preliminary January numbers released last week were the best of any month so far of the Walker tenure: private-sector jobs rose by 15,700. That now puts the state in the positive column for net private job growth during the governor’s first 13 months, with 6,000 jobs added.

And the republicans keep fighting to gut education spending have scarce dollars actually directed to spending on students rather than lining the coffers of the teacher’s unions. Oy vey!

FIFY

I just hope the union thugs spend millions upon millions on this recall and they FAIL!

Please don’t recall Walker, Keefisch, and the legislators.
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letget on April 10, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Two things come to mind:
1) Fewer dollars to send to Obama’s coffers
2) Higher dues for union members to be able to send more dollars to Obama’s coffers

True, but false, except on Wednesdays in even months during a full moon.