Pew: Plurality of GOP voters want an end to the primary process

posted at 9:51 am on April 10, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Is it time to call the game?  According to a new survey from Pew, almost half of all Republicans think the ongoing primaries are hurting the party, while a far larger percentage believe that Mitt Romney has become the inevitable nominee:

Following primary victories in Wisconsin, Maryland and the District of Columbia last Tuesday, Mitt Romney is clearly seen as the inevitable GOP nominee, and Republicans now see continued primaries as bad for the party.

In the latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, conducted April 5-8, 2012, roughly three-quarters (74%) of Republican and Republican-leaning voters say that Romney will definitely be the Republican Party’s nominee this fall. Only 21% believe a candidate other than Romney still has a chance to become the party’s nominee.

And Republicans’ appetite for the ongoing primary campaign has soured. By a 47% to 36% margin, more say it is a bad for the party, not good, that the nomination race has not yet been decided and is still going on. Just a month ago, Republicans were split on this question, and as recently as February a majority thought it was a good thing for the party that the nomination had not yet been finalized.

I suspect that this poll will get a lot of attention today, now that Rick Santorum has returned to the campaign trail, but a few caveats are in order.  The poll sample in this case was 295 self-identifying Republican or GOP-leaning registered voters.  That’s not an especially large sample for a national poll, which is why Pew has a 7% margin of error on the results.  Technically speaking, that puts the “appetite” question on the outer edges of a virtual tie.

Furthermore, Pew doesn’t give any details about the location of these voters — and that might be a wee bit important in determining why they believe that further competition is more harmful than useful at this point.  It obviously doesn’t relate to the conclusions about the likelihood of Romney winning the nomination; nearly three in four say he’s all but wrapped it up, but less than half think it’s time to end the process.  How many of these respondents live in states that have already had their nomination contests, and how many would still like to cast a meaningful vote in the primaries?  I suspect that there would be a wide, wide divergence of polling results between Florida and Pennsylvania, or Michigan and Texas, for instance.  In a sample of less than 300 registered voters nationwide, the location of these respondents makes a bigger difference to the overall results for this kind of question.

The only interesting takeaway from this survey is that a large number of people who believe Romney has all but won the nomination still want to see more debate.  Romney still needs to close the deal with the base, but the numbers will encourage Romney’s competitors to make him keep working for that resolution.


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Tired of hearing it.

NoDonkey on April 10, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Yeah, except we’ve been tired of hearing it for the past 30 years and getting blamed for Dole, McCain, and almost GWBush’s losses. 2010 should have been a wake up call but obviously too many heads up butts around here. So trying to blame Santorum, Gingrich, conservatives ain’t gonna fly anymore. If we get stuck with Romney this time he will get trounced, but it will be a trouncing of his own making and the republican establishment’s.

mozalf on April 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Just some speculation…

If the delegate rules had not changed for the 2012 GOP Nomination Process, it is more than likely that Rommney would have surpassed 1144 by now – making this primary discussion a moot point.

I understand the thinking behind the rule change (allow more states to have a bigger say). But there are always unintended consequences (eg, a drawn out primary process which keeps the eventual GOP candidate from focusing fully on Obama).

I think Romney’s campaign team actually had some foresight here.

Romney has basically been running against Obama since the beginning. They must have realized that the nomination process would be endless, and so to make up for the inevitable lost time, the started running the General early.

Either they knew and planned that… or they just made an unintentionally lucky strategic move. ;-)

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

MrLynn on April 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Was wondering if I was alone in this feeling!

But if that is too much, why not just start the process LATER? Standardize the interstate process for getting on the ballot so that if you DECLARE by 4/1 and meet some standard NATIONALLY(100k signatures by 6/1?), you will be on the ballots for primaries/caucuses beginning 7/1 and running through 8/1.

This may be too compressed and may need adjustment for the convention dates but it would still give the public 3 month to get to know the candidates before the primaries and plenty of time for the press to vet them too.

But there is no reason for things to start almost a year out! And this talk about it being all over now really gives late primary states the shaft. Why not just call elections once the polls close on the East Coast?

OBQuiet on April 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

I really don’t care that much. I mean, he seems like a decent guy, but his whole debt ceiling deal was not a plus. Sometimes I think he’s more talk than walk.

MeatHeadinCA on April 10, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Not sure, though I really am trying not to speculate on why they do what they do. People are unpredictable, and I don’t see the point of trying to figure them out anymore.

upinak on April 10, 2012 at 10:46 AM

So trying to blame Santorum, Gingrich, conservatives ain’t gonna fly anymore. If we get stuck with Romney this time he will get trounced, but it will be a trouncing of his own making and the republican establishment’s.

mozalf on April 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

What will we do without you perpetual whiners and defeatists?

Santorum and Gingrich are no more or less conservative than Romney is.

You’re just looking for a reason to assume the fetal position and become defeatist. Who needs you.

NoDonkey on April 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Clearly, Romney can’t win the White House a fight with Chuck Norris.

Steveangell on April 10, 2012 at 10:43 AM

FIFY

DHChron on April 10, 2012 at 10:48 AM

You’re just looking for a reason to assume the fetal position and become defeatist. Who needs you.

NoDonkey on April 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM

not me Donkey…sorry, NoDonkey

DHChron on April 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Is it time to call the game?

Past time. People are getting fundamentally bored with the process and the candidates.

CorporatePiggy on April 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM

There is no legal way to call the game, as much as the Romney people would like to do so. A plurality of GOP voters may want to what is not legal, and roughly, that is the same plurality that is for Romney. The GOP base, however, is really not convinced by Romney and really can’t be given Romney’s liberal record as Massachusetts Governor and Romney’s flip flopping on his “beliefs.”

It is hilarious to read some of the Romney supporter try to say that Romney is not more or less conservative than Newt and Santorum. Romney is not a conservative at all, whereas Newt is clearly a conservative and Santorum is more conservative than Romney. While Newt was a “Young Turk” captain in the Reagan Revolution and then as Speaker forced Bill Clinton to balanced budgets and welfare reform, Romney voted for liberal Democrats Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale and Paul Tsongas. Romney’s only time in public office was as a one-term Massachusetts Governor (2002-2006), and during that one term, Romney raised fees and taxes, was adamantly pro-abortion rights, appointed liberal pro-abortion rights Democrats to the state judiciary, increased spending, oversaw Massachusetts being 47th in the country in job growth, and championed RomneyCare (socialized medicine at the state level), which Romney has never disavowed, which resulted in billions of dollars of sky rocketing health care costs and which is the precursor to ObamaCare (socialized medicine at the national level). When Romney left office, he had a 35% approval rate/65% disapproval rate.

Phil Byler on April 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM

We have got to line up and support Romney now. The more this process goes on the more chances that folks will get snookered by Obama or get sick of the process and sit it out in November.

There is one overarching goal here. End the Presidency of Barack Obama. End it before it is too late.

skatz51 on April 10, 2012 at 10:58 AM

know I am not representative of ALL Conservatives. But aren’t we all individuals anyway? Are all COnservatives supposed to vote in a bloc? I thought we were against that kind of identity politics.

I know, I know… its oversimplifying things. But…still.

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 10:32 AM

No, it really is simple. We live in a two-party system. Conservatives can choose to get behind Romney, support Obama, or become little crybabies and vow to vote for neither because their guy is no longer in the race. Sadly too many “conservatives” have chosen to be crybabies.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM

From what I understand, Santorum/Gingrich are hoping for a brokered convention to deal with the problem of Gingrich not getting out of the race way back when, like he should have done. Gingrich ended up splitting the vote with Santorum, and giving Romney so much of a lead(so much for him being the smartest guy in the room, like everyone says). Even if that’s NOT what they are planning on doing, everyone in the states that have yet to vote, should have the option of more than just Romney, or Romney and Paul on the ballot. I know in 08, I only had the choice of McCain, and I REALLY hated to choose from him. Romney may end up being the nominee, and I’ll support him if/when it happends, but until then, let’s give the other states the same opportunities the rest of us, have had.

momof5shortstuff on April 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM

No, it really is simple. We live in a two-party system. Conservatives can choose to get behind Romney, support Obama, or become little crybabies and vow to vote for neither because their guy is no longer in the race. Sadly too many “conservatives” have chosen to be crybabies.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM

That does seem to be true of a lot of folks who post here.

I am, however, optimistic that the RomneyHate expressed here amongst a plurality of all of us Conservative Junkies is not truly indicative of what most people are thinking.

My gut says that undecided rank and file GOPers are starting to lean towards Romney. And also, that if (and when) he gets to 1144 delegates and becomes our nominee, the majority of those who lean to the Right will indeed do their part in defeating Obama by electing Romney.

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM

I’m sure I’m already repeating a comment made but they probably just want their debt paid. I’m not happy about that but at least it’s better than the Dems who leave venders high and dry years after the campaigns.

Cindy Munford on April 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM

If he doesn’t make friends, and seriously make friends with the base, who is going to support him when the going gets rough?

Sekhmet on April 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Many is the “base” you reference are supporting him now. And, I assume the base includes Tea Party people who have also Publicly pledged their support- ie. DeMint, Lee.

You are denying consensus because you are an outlier. Nothing wrong with that as long as your intention does not include sabotaging the only option available – at this time- to fire Ocommie. Thats where the 11th commandment truly gets abused.

FlaMurph on April 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Santorum and Gingrich are both holding out for some kind of deal.

They don’t want to just walk away empty handed.

Moesart on April 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM

7 months away from the election and already the RINOs are blaming conservatives for Romney’s loss to Obama. Pathetic.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:17 AM

My gut says that undecided rank and file GOPers are starting to lean towards Romney. And also, that if (and when) he gets to 1144 delegates and becomes our nominee, the majority of those who lean to the Right will indeed do their part in defeating Obama by electing Romney.

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM

The momentum is certainly with Romney right now and it has not hurt he has picked up significant endorsements from Tea Party politicians like Ryan and Rubio. But the bitter Romney haters here seem to be waiting for that “driving a tank” moment to pounce on to derail the Romney campaign. Nevermind that there really isn’t a fallback candidate, they hate Romney that much.

But let us be realistic. Santorum, much as I personally like him and he expresses my values, is unelectable because of the largely false negative perceptions he has with female and anti-Christian voters. Gingrich is just an idiot whose own arrogance tripped up his campaign. If Romney is not going go all the way, the convention in Tampa better be brokered with a “none of the above” alternative we can all get behind.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 11:18 AM

You are denying consensus because you are an outlier. Nothing wrong with that as long as your intention does not include sabotaging the only option available – at this time- to fire Ocommie. Thats where the 11th commandment truly gets abused.

FlaMurph on April 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM

LOL. My favorite Mittbot logical fallacy.

ABRs are outliers, but when Romney loses it will be the ABRs’ fault.

Can’t have both man. Either we’re too small to matter or we’re not. We can’t be both.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Many is the “base” you reference are supporting him now. And, I assume the base includes Tea Party people who have also Publicly pledged their support- ie. DeMint, Lee.

You are denying consensus because you are an outlier. Nothing wrong with that as long as your intention does not include sabotaging the only option available – at this time- to fire Ocommie. Thats where the 11th commandment truly gets abused.

FlaMurph on April 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM

There is a difference between, “Well, looks like he will be the nominee and I’m a team player, yesirree” and “WOOO! I can’t wait to vote for this guy!” Which is the “base” really doing, try and attempt to be honest with yourself.

Sekhmet on April 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM

There is a difference between, “Well, looks like he will be the nominee and I’m a team player, yesirree” and “WOOO! I can’t wait to vote for this guy!” Which is the “base” really doing, try and attempt to be honest with yourself.

Sekhmet on April 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM

They will never get it. Yes, most Gingrich/Santy voters will hold their nose and vote for Mittens. However most of these same people will also not lift a finger to help out in the campaign. Good luck getting cons to make calls or go door to door or hand out flyers or do any of the boots on the ground stuff that is critical to a presidential campaign.

But hey that’s OK, those people will be replaces by independents/moderates/liberals right? Who needs conservatives, when you have all the centrists just dying to help out.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I don’t want the process to end yet! My state hasn’t voted!!

Sachiko on April 10, 2012 at 11:24 AM

I don’t want the process to end yet! My state hasn’t voted!!

Sachiko on April 10, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Didn’t you get the memo? Only votes that count are New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada. The other 54 states don’t mean shit.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:25 AM

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Apparently if you don’t support Gov. Romney you now believe and use the polls put out by the MSM.

Cindy Munford on April 10, 2012 at 11:26 AM

There is a difference between, “Well, looks like he will be the nominee and I’m a team player, yesirree” and “WOOO! I can’t wait to vote for this guy!” Which is the “base” really doing, try and attempt to be honest with yourself.

Sekhmet on April 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM

As the saying goesin regards to nominees: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

I’d much rather be on the pragmatic, common sense end of that equation.

Maybe its just me, but I don’t want an emotional connection to my candidate. I don’t need to be fired up and oh so excited to enter that booth.

But, then again, I guess that is just me.
I am dead inside. ;-)

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 11:26 AM

No, it really is simple. We live in a two-party system. Conservatives can choose to get behind Romney, support Obama, or become little crybabies and vow to vote for neither because their guy is no longer in the race. Sadly too many “conservatives” have chosen to be crybabies.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Great way to unite the party. Whether you like it or not, Romney will need the conservatives to vote for him, and that means stop the campaign of destruction by going after fellow Republicans and their supporters. The burden of uniting the party is totally up to Romney and his supporters since they are the ones who created this environment. Until now, the Republican Party was the conservatives biggest challenge, now it is Romney’s.

lea on April 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM

As a Florida voter let me take this opportunity to disavow the state’s decision to move the primary date up.

Cindy Munford on April 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Sachiko on April 10, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Mine hasn’t either-and I want it OVER…for the presidential nom. anyway.
As far as the SENATE nom…Cruz FTW!!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 10, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Great way to unite the party. Whether you like it or not, Romney will need the conservatives to vote for him, and that means stop the campaign of destruction by going after fellow Republicans and their supporters. The burden of uniting the party is totally up to Romney and his supporters since they are the ones who created this environment. Until now, the Republican Party was the conservatives biggest challenge, now it is Romney’s.

lea on April 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Well, yeah, except that some conservatives have chosen to take the position that Romney must do exactly what they want, disavow moderation in any form and check off every box on their “purity form.” He has clearly articulated conservative positons, vowed to repeal Obamacare, stated that will not choose a pro-choice running mate, etc. etc. But it is never enough.

It is not Romney and his supporters who have created this environment – GW Bush was not as conservative as Romney, yet was embraced by the very folks who reject Mitt. I think it has a lot to do with regional biases. I’m originally from Oklahome, reddest state in the union, and I know very well the anti-northeastern bias that exists there. I imagine it it similar in the soutn.

Priscilla on April 10, 2012 at 11:35 AM

If the RNC and the powers that be had simply let the bodies hit the floor in the 2012 primary, rather than trying to bend and shape it to the advantage of the guy they all agreed to get behind back in 2008, there wouldn’t have been a problem. Let the 2012 Primary have been fought over 2012 issues, and there would be a lot less bitterness.

The RNC, Karl Rove, and whoever else promised Mitt Romney the nomination back when a Tea Party was something you ate watercress sandwiches at should do a Dunce Cap March in Tampa, and promise never to try and predict a race four years out again.

Romney looked like a great idea back when we thought 0bama was not going to cr@p the bed with independents, sacrifice the rest of the Democrat legislative agenda to pass 0bamacare, or get conservatives marching in the streets and organizing opposition to 0bamacare and other Administration policies. The terrible truth is that a whole lot of shiz happens between that handshake in 2008 and the 2012 primaries, much of which can make the guy you were backing back in 2008 not such a sure shot anymore. Quit fighting the last election, morons.

On top of that, we have all but semaphored to our opposition: WE ARE RUNNING ROMNEY IN 2012, YES, DEMOCRATS, ANYTHING YOU INVEST IN TO ATTACK ROMNEY WILL ACTUALLY PAY OFF. Think of how much money was invested in Game Change, back when Sarah Palin was deemed just as likely to run in 2012. We haven’t seen the big money item they prepared for Romney yet. And when we do, I reserve the right to Billingsgate the whole lot of you for such foolishness.

Sekhmet on April 10, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Great way to unite the party. Whether you like it or not, Romney will need the conservatives to vote for him, and that means stop the campaign of destruction by going after fellow Republicans and their supporters. The burden of uniting the party is totally up to Romney and his supporters since they are the ones who created this environment. Until now, the Republican Party was the conservatives biggest challenge, now it is Romney’s.

lea on April 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM

I guess I don’t quite understand how Romney has attacked Conservatives during this campaign.

Sure, he took down his opponents. That’s kind of what a Primary is for.

The public decided which attacks coming from each nominee were valid (Gingrich can be unstable) and which weren’t (Bain was EEEVVVVIIILLL).

When the smoke cleared, two were left actually standing: Romney and Santorum.

So, again, I simply don’t recall a concerted effort by Romney to attack conservatives during this campaign.

If that’s not what you were implying happened, I apologize for misunderstanding.

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 AM

There is no way Mr. Etch A Sketch can seal the deal with me — that car has left the garage. The day Romney turned to ‘scorched earth’ against other Republican candidates not caring if the facts were correct is the day he proved to me that he is only a Republican of convenience and running a Democrat lite campaign. His key paid advisers are all moderates to liberals so we should have suspected no less.

When his wife said they didn’t know any Republicans when he decided to run in 1994 against Kennedy that said he was a Republican of convenience so he didn’t have to face Kennedy in a primary. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

When he ran for Governor as a Republican, he ran against Reagan and the Republican Party for the most part in 2002 which is only ten years ago, but now that independent for 18 years during Reagan wants us to believe he is a conservative and now is moving left. What he is doing is moving back where he is comfortable as a liberal Republican and laughing all the way about how he fooled the conservatives. IMHO the joke is going to be on him when he looks around and discovers that a large portion of the Republican base decided to go with someone else. It is obviouis that he is not a conservative and he along with others would be just as happy for the GOP to the Rockefeller Party not conservative.

This idea we have to vote for Romney or else is ludicrous and not the way to get supporters. If I don’t want to support Romney, that is my business and my vote. I will even vote for someone I agree with 70% but I don’t agree with Romney and his ‘scorched earth’ which is more like a Democrat campaign even 1% because I don’t know when he is telling the truth.

My two cents on why he will never seal the deal with me. I said that after he held a Town Hall here in 2008 and I saw what was going on with only taking questions from PAID staff or fellow Mormons. No thank you — I will pass!

PhiKapMom on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 AM

7 months away from the election and already the RINOs are blaming conservatives for Romney’s loss to Obama. Pathetic.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Well it’s been nearly four years, and we’re still being blamed for McCain’s loss, so I guess they’re just trying to get ahead of the game a little for Romney’s loss.

I held my nose and voted for McCain (and having Palin as VP helped significantly). I’ll do the same for Romney but it would really help if many of his supporters would stop trying to tell me how good he is by smashing me in the face with a “Vote for Romney or you’re an ObamaBot” sign.

DrAllecon on April 10, 2012 at 11:45 AM

LOL. My favorite Mittbot logical fallacy.

ABRs are outliers, but when Romney loses it will be the ABRs’ fault.
angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM

.
Ah yes, still clinging to your false premise, are we ?
” when Romney loses it will be the ABRs’ fault.

WHO IS SAYING THAT- “when Romney loses it will be the ABRs’ fault.”
WHO ? I’ve not heard it – seriously !!
Newsflash- The ROMINATOR WILL BE be victorious in November- and Obamaphants will despair…
Besides, the “I will not vote/support Mitt” tantrum voters are not that many in number when compared to the 120 million voters in November.

Did people say- Oh crap !!!! IF only we had gone with Romney instead of McCain in 2008!! ??? Did they ?? I think not.

Sounds like a false premise you have chosen for your sitchaation.

FlaMurph on April 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM

PhiKapMom on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Thanks for your honesty, and I certainly respect your opinion.

I would simply say that “Vote for Romney, or else…” is not really a bullying threat.

Its more of an acknowledgement of the facts of our situation.

If Romney clinches the nomination, everyone will indeed have three valid choices:

1) Vote for Obama
2) Vote for Romney
3) Don’t Vote/Protest Vote for someone else

Those will be the choices.
Options 1 and 3 help to keep Obama in the White House.

If one is ok with that, then it is more than their right to go with those options.

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Competition bring the best in people. No one should run away from competition

social-justice on April 10, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Ed,

I’m waiting for YOU to say Romney has won and Santorum should drop out. Until YOU accept it none of the true believers will.

Gerry-mittbot-soon to be Edbot

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 11:52 AM

roughly three-quarters (74%) of Republican and Republican-leaning voters say that Romney will definitely be the Republican Party’s nominee this fall.

Then why didn’t Romney get 74% of the vote in each of the three primaries last Tuesday?

Seriously, why didn’t he?

He didn’t even break 50% in 2 of the three contests, and the in the one where he did, Santorum wasn’t even on the ballot.

Behold, the list of places where Romney has actually earned a majority (rather than just a plurality) of votes:

Nevada
Virginia (where Gingrich and Santorum were not on the ballot)
Massachusetts
Idaho
Northern Marianas
Guam
Puerto Rico
District of Columbia (where Santorum was not on the ballot)

Even after having been given every possible advantage, Romney still wasn’t able to win a majority in 2 out of 3 of the primaries on April 3rd (Maryland and Wisconsin)… the only place he did was D.C.

If Romney were a half-decent candidate, he would have pulled in 80% of the vote in all 3 primaries on April 3rd.

Why didn’t he?

Only 21% believe a candidate other than Romney still has a chance to become the party’s nominee.

If Romney fails to win the votes of 1,144 delegates by the first round of voting at the convention, we absolutely could end up with a different candidate as our nominee.

ITguy on April 10, 2012 at 11:54 AM

PhiKapMom on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Of course you’ll vote for Romney. You’ll hold your nose like I did with McCain.

of course you’ll deny it but you will vote for him because what choice do you have. Vote for Obama?.Don’t vote which is a vote for Obama.

see you in november.

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Behold, the list of places where Romney has actually earned a majority (rather than just a plurality) of votes:

Nevada
Virginia (where Gingrich and Santorum were not on the ballot)
Massachusetts
Idaho
Northern Marianas
Guam
Puerto Rico
District of Columbia (where Santorum was not on the ballot)

LOL!

Nevada: 15% Mormon
Idaho: 25% Mormon
MA: Will vote 60-40 Obama
DC: Will vote 90-10 Obama
the rest aren’t even voting in the general

This is your proof that the guy is electable?

Beyond pathetic.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Actually if you read frontloadinghq most of the change is coming from
WHEN a state has it’s primary. Far more of them are later than 2008.

Gerry-mittbot-becoming a primary expert

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM

I’m resigned to Mittens being the nominee.

I’m also resigned The One being in the Oval Office for another 4 years.

I’m resigned to the Donks holding the Senate.

And I’m kinda, sorta becoming resigned to re-welcoming Speaker Pelosi.

Spectacular, across the board defeat deftly snatched from the jaws of certain victory.

Bruno Strozek on April 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Brainwashed from day one. This is what the establishment wants and this is what they will get. Methods: media, polls and surveys. Now something to think about, who has the advantage in these measures? I’ll give you one guess and its not Romney. Damn, this is depressing.

DDay on April 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Newsflash- The ROMINATOR WILL BE be victorious in November- and Obamaphants will despair…
FlaMurph on April 10, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Some days I feel sorry for you people and your deluded minds.

ABC News/Wash Post 4/5 – 4/8 RV 51 44 Obama +7
IBD/CSM/TIPP 3/30 – 4/5 816 RV 46 38 Obama +8
USA Today/Gallup 3/25 – 3/26 901 RV 49 45 Obama +4
CNN/Opinion Research 3/24 – 3/25 925 RV 54 43 Obama +11
McClatchy/Marist 3/20 – 3/22 846 RV 46 44 Obama +2

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Ed,

I’m waiting for YOU to say Romney has won

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 11:52 AM

If Ed is wise, he will not say that anyone has won until they actually have won.

No one will have won until they secure the vote of 1,144 delegates.

Count the pledged delegates and the unpledged delegates who have publicly endorsed a candidate. And how many does Romney have?

The answer is 573… only 1 more than half the number he needs.

It ain’t over until someone secures the vote of 1,144 delegates.

ITguy on April 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM

I held my nose and voted for McCain (and having Palin as VP helped significantly). I’ll do the same for Romney but it would really help if many of his supporters would stop trying to tell me how good he is by smashing me in the face with a “Vote for Romney or you’re an ObamaBot” sign.

vote for Romney or your sort of an Obamabot

lol

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM

if you do not vote because your “guy” didn’t get the nom, then you helped re-elect Obowmao and will be supporting a “socialistic” precedent. Period. Yell all you want, the truth hurts!

screwauger on April 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Beyond pathetic.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM

ITguy is on your side in this one.
{read his post again}

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I’m resigned to Mittens being the nominee.

I’m also resigned The One being in the Oval Office for another 4 years.

I’m resigned to the Donks holding the Senate.

And I’m kinda, sorta becoming resigned to re-welcoming Speaker Pelosi.

Spectacular, across the board defeat deftly snatched from the jaws of certain victory.

Bruno Strozek on April 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM

I think I figured out what it is. The GOP elite do not want power. They won a huge election in 2010. And what did they do? From day 1 got to work to dismantle their win and had power right back to the Democrats.

Obama will win by 10%. Dems will pick up seats in the Senate. Whether Dems win or lose the house, it will be close enough that with a few strategic RINO votes, Nancy will be the de facto speaker as well.

And in 2016 the GOP elite will run an even bigger RINO than Romney.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM

if you do not vote because your “guy” didn’t get the nom, then you helped re-elect Obowmao and will be supporting a “socialistic” precedent. Period. Yell all you want, the truth hurts!

screwauger on April 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM

I don’t have a guy. I wouldn’t vote for Romney if he had run UN-opposed for the nomination. You people can’t get out of the my team vs. your team mentality.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM

I don’t have a guy. I wouldn’t vote for Romney if he had run UN-opposed for the nomination. You people can’t get out of the my team vs. your team mentality.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM

no no, it’s fine if you choose not to participate in the 2012 referendum on Obowmao. That’s your right! I prefer to be on the Right Side of History that’s all!

screwauger on April 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM

There is a difference between, “Well, looks like he will be the nominee and I’m a team player, yesirree” and “WOOO! I can’t wait to vote for this guy!” Which is the “base” really doing, try and attempt to be honest with yourself.

Sekhmet on April 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM

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Really ? So thats it ? you need an excitement factor here ? You want messianic tingles do we ?

Son, we live in a world that requires decisions, and those decisions have to be made by adults living in reality- not some candidate fantasyland. Who’s gonna say enough’s enough already ?- lets start to go fight Ocommie already. You got any fight in you ? Can you get in the foxhole and do what is right ? The time to fight is right now- with army you have. Mittens has a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom going up against the world.
You weep for Santorum or EgoNewt- or even Grampa Ron, and yet you curse the unique successful Executive Experience Mittens offers above all others. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what the hell is going on in the real world. That Santorum’s failure, while tragic, probably saved this election for the us. And Romney’s existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, is the only hope to save this country from another 4 years of marxism from the azzclown in the WH. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at your revivals, you want Mittens kicking Obie’s azz, you need Mittens kickin Obie’s azz. Romney uses words like capitalism, market solutions, family values. He uses those words as the backbone of a life spent being successful in the REAL world- not the make believe world of hopenchange DC corruption. You use those words as spin to twist your convoluted fantasies on the unaware and unknowing.
You are simply out of time. The time now is to fight the enemy.

FlaMurph on April 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM

ITguy on April 10, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Most presedential primaries(notice I said MOST) whan a candidate realizes he has no chance to get nomination he drops out before the front runner clinches. WHY is it different this time.

Santorum and Gingrich have no chance to get nomination. There is a minute chance they could deny Romney 1144.

Does Rick think a brokered convention will give it to Him?

a brokered convention may go many ways But will not give it to Santorum

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM

no no, it’s fine if you choose not to participate in the 2012 referendum on Obowmao.
screwauger on April 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM

That’s how I see it too.

Both 2008 and 2012 are elections about Obama.

He won in 2008 because he was a blank slate and people projected their hopes onto him.

He will lose in 2012, because he actually has a record now (and it is dismal at best).

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM

This extended primary has absolutely drained the Republican base and created a lot of bad blood between supporters from different camps. Steele did us no favors by setting this thing up.

Book on April 10, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I don’t have a guy. I wouldn’t vote for Romney if he had run UN-opposed for the nomination. You people can’t get out of the my team vs. your team mentality.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Sure you do- Obama. And I hate everyone of you worthless traitors for supporting him, not because of his accomplishments but because the other nominee is too Mormon, or liberal, or something for your delicate little sensitivities.

Please explain why it is you support Obama. Why he deserves a second term. Why we all should be following your lead and supporting a guy who has done nothing but destroy this nation with out-of-control spending, massive debt, unemployment at around 18% (counting those who have given up looking). If you are going to support destroying America, you’d better have a damned good reason for doing so and that you hate Mormons or whatever isn’t going to cut it. Why specifically do you support Obama?

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Much as I like Santorum and the values he has consistently supported, he is unelectable.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I don’t understand why they want it to end. I haven’t been following extremely closely, but from the bits and pieces I’ve heard, it sounds like a riveting story about a robotic tree-lover who travels to the moon to battle Satan.

RINO in Name Only on April 10, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Santorum and Gingrich have no chance to get nomination. There is a minute chance they could deny Romney 1144.

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Your 2 sentences are mutually exclusive. If they deny Romney 1,144 delegates in the first round voting, then they each have a chance of winning 1,144 delegates, and the nomination, in a later round of voting.

And if none of the 4 who ran can win 1,144 delegates, then the delegates will have to find a candidate whom a majority of them CAN support.

In that scenario, I think that a Huckabee/Palin ticket could win the nomination. Obviously, Team Romney is afraid of that very thing.

And if someone other than Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul becomes the nominee, does that mean that all 4 of them wasted their time and money? I would hope not… I would hope that each of the 4 would be offered a cabinet position to both reward them and to utilize their skills in the next administration.

ITguy on April 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Both 2008 and 2012 are elections about Obama.

He won in 2008 because he was a blank slate and people projected their hopes onto him.

He will lose in 2012, because he actually has a record now (and it is dismal at best).

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Unfortunately, with Romney as a nominee we’re basically offering the same as in 2008 – don’t pay attention to his record just vote for him. Even though Romney’s record isn’t a blank slate, it’s a very troubling record to republicans especially. And not a very convincing argument to change ships in mid-stream and trust a man who says he’ll be different again, let alone trust one party with total control over all branches of govt. That’s why the strong push back to change this scenario before it’t too late. The other candidates offer a much stronger case and contrast with Obama.

mozalf on April 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I am no RINO lover (which I believe mitbama is)as I reign from the land of the RINO Twins. I will not however, remain stagnant because a true conservative is not nominated. The Libs run my state and one thing is for certain, I would vote for a different lib over Obowmao if it was the only choice.

screwauger on April 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM

This is an epic David versus Goliath story. We had better hope that David wins for this Countries sake. Whether you like Romney or not, it is time to get over it and do what is right. Romney will be up against: all news and commentary media; except for FOX and this does not include Shep Smith, print media, Hollywood and late night talk shows. I would say he definitely needs some help.

DDay on April 10, 2012 at 12:20 PM

If we in the GOP are going to decide on a minimally qualified candidate and end the entire vetting/nominating process in April
for heaven’s sake, Romney damn well better be ready to win.
If he doesn’t, the Republican Party is washed up, done,cooked, over, kaput and I don’t mean maybe. I don’t know too many conservatives who would sit still and be force-fed losers like Maverick Senator John and his sidekick Mittens.

Mr. Grump on April 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Ah yes, just end the process now, and screw all the rest of the voters in the country. Obviously, their votes mean squat.

robertlbryant on April 10, 2012 at 12:22 PM

In that scenario, I think that a Huckabee/Palin ticket could win the nomination. Obviously, Team Romney is afraid of that very thing.

Huckabee/Palin. I apologize to you. I thought you were not delusional.

gerry-mittbot-trying to appease the delusional

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:24 PM

six months ago I was squarely in the camp of wouldn’t vote for Mittens if my life depended on it. Not Now. Anyone but the jug eared one!

Lets just pray that the October Crisis doesn’t result in the next Civil War! It’s THAT fracking important!

screwauger on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Sure you do- Obama. And I hate everyone of you worthless traitors for supporting him, not because of his accomplishments but because the other nominee is too Mormon
Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM

OK I’ll play your idiotic little game. I don’t like Romney because he’s too Mormon, just like you don’t like him because he’s too black.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:29 PM

You misspelled Romney. Who spelled capitulation for you?

cicerone on April 10, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Did I ? My most sincere and heartfelt apologies./ Let me correct it for you.

Rmoney™ = capitulation.

Now doesn’t that make it all better for you? I say doesn’t that make you feel better?

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Looks better in bold. Might just have to start posting it that way all the time.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Ah yes, just end the process now, and screw all the rest of the voters in the country. Obviously, their votes mean squat.

robertlbryant on April 10, 2012 at 12:22 PM

That’s kind of how the Primary Process works nowadays.

It can be changed, but it would take actual interest by the GOP rank and file to do so.

And, it actually was changed this time around to try and drag out the process (which the changes accomplished).

RightWay79 on April 10, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:31 PM

My smile for the afternoon. Thanks.

mozalf on April 10, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Now doesn’t that make it all better for you? I say doesn’t that make you feel better?

Makes ME feel better.

LOL

gerry-mittbot

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Anti-Romney comments begin now

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ourulz2000 on April 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM

LOL!!!

Very prescient.

The ABRtards are still in denial.

Gunlock Bill on April 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I don’t like Romney because he’s too Mormon, just like you don’t like him because he’s too black.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Sorry but your hatred of Romney does not justify your unqualified and more enthusiastic support of Obama. I can reel of hundreds of reasons why Obama needs to be defeated in November. So sad that your angry little mind can not give even one reason why we should join you in supporting Obama.

It is one thing to be ABR with reluctant support of whoever wins the primaries. It is another thing to be one of you who just hate.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Ah yes, just end the process now, and screw all the rest of the voters in the country. Obviously, their votes mean squat.

Er, thats how the primary system has always been. Some times it goes all the way but mostly the nomination is decided before may.

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 12:35 PM

My smile for the afternoon. Thanks.

mozalf on April 10, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Happy to oblige. Love smiles. : ) Don’t forget to thank cicerone, he did after all bring it to my attention. Without his help I may have overlooked my error, and been hopelessly lost forever. : )

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:37 PM

The ABRtards are still in denial.

Gunlock Bill on April 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM

What do you have against August Burns Red?

They’re one of my favorite bands, so lay off!!

;)

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM

PhiKapMom on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I agree, everyone that has voted for him is a paid Mormon. They have been bussing them all over the country and many of them have voted in multiple states. The lame stream media won’t report on it because they are in cahoots with the Mormons. Wake up America.

Rusty Allen on April 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I don’t want the process to end yet! My state hasn’t voted!!

Sachiko on April 10, 2012 at 11:24 AM

You will be called a “fake conservative” by historically pretty sane HA commenters.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2012 at 12:42 PM

he ABRtards are still in denial.

Gunlock Bill on April 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM

You’re still the stupidest poster on HA.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM

The ABRtards are still in denial.

Gunlock Bill on April 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Maybe yes, maybe no, but you are certainly delusional about Mitt.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM

They’re one of my favorite bands, so lay off!!

;)

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Creativity is a Luxury after all.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Any process that can produce Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain & Romney in that order is fundamentally broken.

Citizen-003528 on April 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Obama and Hillary battled till June and he still won. What is wrong with competition?

social-justice on April 10, 2012 at 9:58 AM

THIS!!!

Bitter Clinger on April 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM

THIS IS STUPID!!!!!

The winner of Obama/Clinton then ran against George W. Bush and John McLame, not against an incumbent President with the backing of 90% of the media. Not only does Mitt have to beat an incumbent President with the backing of 90% of the media, he must first defeat the dummies in his own party.

But he’s resolute and up to the challenge. And his supporters are serene.

Basilsbest on April 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Creativity is a Luxury after all.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Like to see you play drums for any one of their songs, bud.

:D

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Basilsbest on April 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM

So if I read your comment correctly. Rmoney™ can’t beat the weaker candidates in his own party to get to 0. Yet he is the right man for the job.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Like to see you play drums for any one of their songs, bud.

:D

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:51 PM

My mistake I figured you would be familiar with their lyrics seeing how they are one of your fav’s.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM

My mistake I figured you would be familiar with their lyrics seeing how they are one of your fav’s.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Oof.

haha, can’t say I know all the lyrics off their new stuff as well as their older ones. Yet.

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:55 PM

The ABRtards are still in denial.

Gunlock Bill on April 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM

And some (insert Gunlock Bill here)
relish using snotty remarks to castigate any and
all Conservatives…..

of course if Mitt were to pick say…..Sarah Palin,
a neighbor would have to resuscitate you after your
apoplectic attack….

ToddPA on April 10, 2012 at 12:55 PM

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Let me save you the trouble of looking for it. Empire. The sixth line.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Of course you’ll vote for Romney. You’ll hold your nose like I did with McCain.

of course you’ll deny it but you will vote for him because what choice do you have. Vote for Obama?. Don’t vote which is a vote for Obama.

see you in november.

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM

This nonsense never gets old. Just like the “you have to eat one of the two cr@p sandwiches because only crybabies would be willing to skip lunch” nonsense is as trenchant an analysis as it ever was. /sarc

I don’t have a guy. I wouldn’t vote for Romney if he had run UN-opposed for the nomination. You people can’t get out of the my team vs. your team mentality.

angryed on April 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Sure you do — Obama. And I hate everyone of you worthless traitors for supporting him, not because of his accomplishments but because the other nominee is too Mormon, or liberal, or something for your delicate little sensitivities.

Please explain why it is you support Obama. Why he deserves a second term. Why we all should be following your lead and supporting a guy who has done nothing but destroy this nation with out-of-control spending, massive debt, unemployment at around 18% (counting those who have given up looking). If you are going to support destroying America, you’d better have a damned good reason for doing so and that you hate Mormons or whatever isn’t going to cut it. Why specifically do you support Obama?

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I see one Romney supporter who needs a nap.

Aitch748 on April 10, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Let me save you the trouble of looking for it. Empire. The sixth line.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Already found it, thanks. Good song, never realized that’s what he said there. Pretty clear now that I know.

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM

You’re lucky having this tick for lyrics and music can suck at times.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Basilsbest on April 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM

So if I read your comment correctly. Rmoney™ can’t beat the weaker candidates in his own party to get to 0. Yet he is the right man for the job.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Not surprisingly you didn’t read my comment correctly. Romney will turn his full attention to and will defeat Obama after he defeats the last ABR supported by you bitter clingers who can’t see past the ends of your noses.

Basilsbest on April 10, 2012 at 1:09 PM

You’re lucky having this tick for lyrics and music can suck at times.

Bmore on April 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Oh believe me, I usually am the same way. could recite just about anything off Constellations, or most anything from 5fdp or ATR, it just seems like lately I don’t have time to sit down and listen to albums while reading the lyrics like I used to.

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 1:11 PM

which reminds me. I haven’t seen danieldevito or Dr.Tesla lately.
have they been banned?

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Hot Air:
Now 6 days NBC edit-gate free.

(And ,of course,anything even remotely or tangentially related to the Trayvon Martin case)

I take it this is the cowardly result of “Kilgore Trout” syndrome.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 10, 2012 at 1:15 PM

This nonsense never gets old. Just like the “you have to eat one of the two cr@p sandwiches because only crybabies would be willing to skip lunch” nonsense is as trenchant an analysis as it ever was. /sarc

You’ll still vote for Romney. You’ll just deny it but you don’t want obama.

gerrym51 on April 10, 2012 at 1:15 PM

I saw Tesla yesterday over on that “homophobes are gay” thread.

haha.

thirtyandseven on April 10, 2012 at 1:16 PM

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