Holder loses FACE in a case against a pro-life sidewalk counselor

posted at 2:31 pm on April 9, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The Department of Justice — apparently because it has nothing better to do (like prosecute real cases of voter intimidation or defend the Defense of Marriage Act!) — has filed a number of cases against pro-life sidewalk counselors for alleged violations of the Free Access to Clinic Entrance or FACE Act. Some time ago, I wrote about the case against Dick Retta, a peaceful, prayerful man the DOJ calls a “vocal and aggressive” anti-abortion (a.k.a. pro-life!) protester. The speciousness of the DOJ’s accusations against Retta are representative of the weakness of their arguments in most, if not all, of these cases.

Fortunately, in a recent ruling on a high-profile example of “the FACE cases,” a U.S. district judge called out the DOJ in no uncertain terms for the ludicrousness:

The Justice Department has dropped an appeal in Holder v. Pine against pro-life sidewalk counselor Mary “Susan” Pine, who is represented by the civil rights firm Liberty Counsel. The DOJ has agreed to pay $120,000 for this frivolous lawsuit which, as the evidence indicated, was intended to intimidate Ms. Pine and send a shot over the bow of pro-lifers around the country.

Mr. Holder unsuccessfully sought thousands of dollars in fines against Ms. Pine, as well as a permanent injunction banning her from counseling women on the public sidewalk outside the Presidential Women’s Center (PWC) abortion mill (or any other “reproductive services” clinic).

After 18 months of litigation, the DOJ’s case was thrown out of federal court, and the department was chastised in a scathing ruling by U.S. District Judge Kenneth Ryskamp for filing a case with no evidence.

Judge Ryskamp wrote that Holder’s complete failure to present any evidence of wrongdoing, coupled with the DOJ’s cozy relationship with PWC and their apparent joint decision to destroy video surveillance footage of the alleged “obstruction,” caused the court to suspect a conspiracy at the highest levels of the Obama administration. “The Court is at a loss as to why the Government chose to prosecute this particular case in the first place,” wrote Judge Ryskamp. “The Court can only wonder whether this action was the product of a concerted effort between the Government and PWC, which began well before the date of the incident at issue, to quell Ms. Pine’s activities rather than to vindicate the rights of those allegedly aggrieved by Ms. Pine’s conduct.”

Let’s review Ryskamp’s words, just in case you didn’t catch the full extent of his insinuations: Ryskamp hints at a conspiracy between the Justice Department and the pro-abortion Presidential Women’s Center abortion mill.

We don’t have to look very far for further evidence that this administration wants to impose a radical anti-life agenda. In the throes of the Obamacare debate, members of Congress agonized over whether taxpayer funds should be allowed to go toward abortions. The president purported to solve the controversy with an executive order that was supposed to ban the use of federal dollars for abortions. The EO was never more than a temporary, political solution to ensure that pro-life Democrats would vote for Obamacare. After all, EOs are reversible at any time. Unfortunately for pro-lifers, the ruse worked and a number of pro-life Democrats sold out to vote for Obamacare. (Many of them eventually paid for it, though, losing their seats in the 2010 midterm elections.) Since then, the HHS has attached a “final rule” to Obamacare that earmarks taxpayer funds expressly for an abortion services pool. So much for no taxpayer funding of abortion.

Ryskamp’s ruling is hopeful, though. Perhaps the DOJ pressed its luck too far by prosecuting the FACE cases — and the decision to prosecute will wake Americans to the president’s pro-abortion-even-at-taxpayer-expense agenda.


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Holder may be the man who wins the Presidential election for the Republicans…

right2bright on April 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Judge Ryskamp for SCOTUS!!!! Immediately if not sooner.

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM

The DOJ has agreed to pay $120,000 for this frivolous lawsuit which, as the evidence indicated, was intended to intimidate Ms. Pine and send a shot over the bow of pro-lifers around the country.

It’s pretty chilling that the DOJ intentionally launches lawsuits to intimidate those with a different agenda than Obama’s.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:36 PM

The Department of Justice — apparently because it has nothing better to do (like prosecute real cases of voter intimidation or defend the Defense of Marriage Act!)

Or answer inquires on the Fast and Furious scandal..

Man is not free unless government is limited- Ronald Reagan

Chip on April 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Hope & Change Baby !!!

Ragnar Danneskold on April 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM

The Justice Department has dropped an appeal in Holder v. Pine against pro-life sidewalk counselor Mary “Susan” Pine, who is represented by the civil rights firm Liberty Counsel. The DOJ has agreed to pay $120,000 for this frivolous lawsuit which, as the evidence indicated, was intended to intimidate Ms. Pine and send a shot over the bow of pro-lifers around the country.

Notice to those ABR’s who would rather have Obama re-elected than take a chance on Romney: You really want 4 more years of this?!?!?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Holder may be the man who wins the Presidential election for the Republicans…

right2bright on April 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

There certainly is enough material to at least ensure Holder is so demonized he will not be AG for Obama’s second term. The problem is that Obama practices the Chicago method of governing. Let your people do the dirty work. Send out your partisan prostitute to announce that Catholics have to provide contraception and abortions to slutty law students. Send out your AG to announce that they are going to ignore DOMA. Send out Hillary to discuss the failure of the US to prevent Iran from building a nuke bomb.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM

You mean there is some cover-up in the bho administration? Let me count the ways…..

Molonlabe2004 on April 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Notice to those ABR’s who would rather have Obama re-elected than take a chance on Romney: You really want 4 more years of this?!?!?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM

They apparently do. And most of it seems to be out of spite not a principled and reasoned decision.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:41 PM

The DOJ has agreed to pay $120,000 for this frivolous lawsuit which, as the evidence indicated, was intended to intimidate Ms. Pine and send a shot over the bow of pro-lifers around the country.

It’s pretty chilling that the DOJ intentionally launches lawsuits to intimidate those with a different agenda than Obama’s.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:36 PM

What do they care? It isn’t like that $120k is coming out of their own pockets.

Ditkaca on April 9, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Don’t worry, Mr. Holder.

At least you can vote your boss back into office – whoops!

KingGold on April 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Yeah great, but that $120k is taxpayer money so Holder doesn’t care. Take the money straight from his pocket and he might actually give half a crap about this judgement.

Bishop on April 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

That scathing decision by the judge was just brutal.

Oh the humanity!

Spliff Menendez on April 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Justice Department……like everything in this administration, it’s a political flop house.

itsspideyman on April 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Who’s gonna clean this mess up?

Shy Guy on April 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Mr. Holder unsuccessfully sought thousands of dollars in fines against Ms. Pine, as well as a permanent injunction banning her from counseling women

If this isn’t enough to motivate people to vote for any of the Republicans, I don’t know what is.

I’ve seen this movie before and it never ends well.

ABO!

JPeterman on April 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

You cannot have Utopia, when you disagree with the State, and voice same.

Oh, and … by the way … you cannot have Utopia – when you have a fundamental belief in the right to bear arms, and in the prohibition unreasonable searches and seizures, by the State.

This is black and white – either you’re a Communist and desire Utopia, or you are an enemy of the State, and are to be treated as same.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

They apparently do. And most of it seems to be out of spite not a principled and reasoned decision.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:41 PM

I guess so. I’m not thrilled that Romney will be our nominee, but Obama has just flat got to go. And take Holder, Big Sis, Biden, and the rest with him.

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Next Up:

DoJ defends “The Butcher of Philadelphia

BobMbx on April 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM

prohibition – against – unreasonable searces and seizures …

OhEssYouCowboys on April 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM

The problem we have though, is that to probably 45% of the electorate, Holder is considered a hero for what he’s doing to further Obomba’s agenda. And everything that comes out about Holder that WE think is negative, THEY think is awesome.

Meople on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore.

Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Unfortunately, I am sceptical enough that the big 0 will throw Holder under the bus when polling shows he will get a significant boost with the voting populace.

uncommon sense on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

That scathing decision by the judge was just brutal.

Oh the humanity!

Spliff Menendez on April 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Judge Ryskamp must be RAAAAAAAAAAACIST

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

What do they care? It isn’t like that $120k is coming out of their own pockets.

Ditkaca on April 9, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Exactly — it’s why Issa should have drawn up multiple impeachment charges months ago; heads should roll (metaphorically of course).

Those spineless Congressional Republicans are nearly as much to blame for enabling this and all the other sordid crap Obama administration crap …

ShainS on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

The DOJ has agreed to pay $120,000 for this frivolous lawsuit which, as the evidence indicated, was intended to intimidate Ms. Pine and send a shot over the bow of pro-lifers around the country.

So where is this money coming from? Obama’s stash?

arnold ziffel on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Notice to those ABR’s who would rather haveObamare-electedthantake a chanceonRomney: You really want 4 more years of this?!?!?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Ok. We get it.

What’s sad is that Romney’s supporters are basically left with begging and pleading, “At least he’s not as corrupt as Obama!” Yet you still cant figure out why we don’t like the guy and enthusiasm for Romney is non-existant.

Spliff Menendez on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

These people are capable of rounding up dissenters.

They are committed Communists.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM

OIC! I thought this topic was about this:

O’Keefe Voter Fraud Investigation: Young Man Offered Holder’s Ballot

“I am Eric Holder and I approve this message.”
/s

DannoJyd on April 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Mr. Holder unsuccessfully sought thousands of dollars in fines against Ms. Pine, as well as a permanent injunction banning her from counseling women on the public sidewalk outside the Presidential Women’s Center (PWC) abortion mill (or any other “reproductive services” clinic).

But armed Black Panthers in military garb intimidating voters at the entrance to a polling place is just fine.

RadClown on April 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Judge Ryskamp must be RAAAAAAAAAAACIST

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

There’s really no other logical conclusion to be drawn from it.

Spliff Menendez on April 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Exactly — it’s why Issa should have drawn up multiple impeachment charges months ago; heads should roll (metaphorically of course).

Those spineless Congressional Republicans are nearly as much to blame for enabling this and all the other sordid crap Obama administration crap …

ShainS on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Here’s the problem with impeachment. You have to go through the Senate to get a “conviction”. You really think this Senate is going to do that?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore.

Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Whaaaat?

BadgerHawk on April 9, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore.

Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

It would have been the same cut and paste drivel she always posted when abortion came up. Yawn.

NoDonkey on April 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Holder loses FACE in a case against a pro-life sidewalk counselor

Holder has plenty of ASS to replace it with

Roy Rogers on April 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Perhaps the DOJ pressed its luck too far…

Whammy!

connertown on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

“At least he’s not as corrupt as Obama!” Yet you still cant figure out why we don’t like the guy and enthusiasm for Romney is non-existant.

Spliff Menendez on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Please point out this corruption of Romney’s. Not even the most rabid ABRs seem to go quite that far other than in vague swipes at Bain or some other way that makes it clear that the corruption is that he actually made money instead of just taking a public sector salary. Seriously. You called Romney corrupt now prove it.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Was liberal4life banned? Who should be next?

earlgrey133 on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Notice to those ABR’s who would rather haveObamare-electedthantake a chanceonRomney: You really want 4 more years of this?!?!?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Ok. We get it.

What’s sad is that Romney’s supporters are basically left with begging and pleading, “At least he’s not as corrupt as Obama!” Yet you still cant figure out why we don’t like the guy and enthusiasm for Romney is non-existant.

Spliff Menendez on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

I’m saying this as a guy who has been ABR all along. But I see the handwriting on the wall. Time to shift into ABO mode. I’ll take less corruption over this criminal enterprise sitting in the WH now. Don Corleone Obama has to go.

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

But armed Black Panthers in military garb intimidating voters at the entrance to a polling place is just fine.

RadClown on April 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Sons of OBama…

Roy Rogers on April 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM

It’s pretty chilling that the DOJ intentionally launches lawsuits to intimidate those with a different agenda than Obama’s.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Hey, Clinton had Janet Reno’s DOJ do the same thing. Gee, who was one of her Assistants?

Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Holder is worried about abortion clinics but not voter fraud?

Meanwhile, while Holder was prosecuting this stuff, someone else was voting using his voting ticket.

timberline on April 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore.

Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Holder is a the greatest champion for minorities — the only people that can be discriminated against — in the whole, wide world! This just proves that the judicial branch is racist — a bunch of old white men — and why Obama should ignore the Supreme Court if it rules against UtopiaCare …

And let’s not forget Trayvon now, shall we? Or Mitt’s magic underwear (I’ll bet it’s white too) …

/the former (and currently banned) liberal4life

ShainS on April 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

New insurance policy at Texas Schools for upcoming year:

Will cover contraception in all forms.

Will not cover infertility testing in any case or for any reason. Will not cover infertility treatments in any case or for any reason.

That about says it all for where Obama is taking our country in terms of the right to life, don’t you think?

UnderstandingisPower on April 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

their apparent joint decision to destroy video surveillance footage of the alleged “obstruction,”

A conspiracy to destroy evidence in a federal case? Isn’t that a felony?

jnelchef on April 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Was liberal4life banned? Who should be next?

earlgrey133 on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Yes, in the Fast and Furious thread. Her crime was hijacking the thread to change the subject to Mormons.

Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

“The Court can only wonder whether this action was the product of a concerted effort between the Government and PWC, which began well before the date of the incident at issue, to quell Ms. Pine’s activities rather than to vindicate the rights of those allegedly aggrieved by Ms. Pine’s conduct.”

Wow. Federal judges hardly ever question DOJ motives in a ruling, preferring to pretend that everything is on the up and up. For a judge to write that means the case was extremely bad and the partisanship was incredibly blatant.

rbj on April 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Holder is worried about abortion clinics but not voter fraud?

timberline on April 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Priorities

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

“Hope ‘n Shame” — Obama 2012

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Holder is worried about abortion clinics but not voter fraud?

Meanwhile, while Holder was prosecuting this stuff, someone else was voting using his voting ticket.

timberline on April 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM

We already had a lengthy thread on that this morning in Headlines, but it has since moved off the front page. Hopefully a comparable thread will be started on the main page for the second and third shifts later today.

Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Exactly — it’s why Issa should have drawn up multiple impeachment charges months ago; heads should roll (metaphorically of course).

ShainS on April 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Seeing some DOJ heads roll literally would be a lot of fun, too.

UltimateBob on April 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Wow. Federal judges hardly ever question DOJ motives in a ruling, preferring to pretend that everything is on the up and up. For a judge to write that means the case was extremely bad and the partisanship was incredibly blatant.

rbj on April 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Judge Ryskamp wrote that Holder’s complete failure to present any evidence of wrongdoing, coupled with the DOJ’s cozy relationship with PWC and their apparent joint decision to destroy video surveillance footage of the alleged “obstruction,” caused the court to suspect a conspiracy at the highest levels of the Obama administration.

Yep, it was pretty bad.

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:57 PM

“Those who hate me love death,” -God Almighty.

The perfect encapsulation of all things liberal.

Akzed on April 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

It’s pretty chilling that the DOJ intentionally launches lawsuits to intimidate those with a different agenda than Obama’s.

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:36 PM

The EPA did the same thing recently. They tried to intimidate a couple with fines up the wazoo.

http://nation.foxnews.com/epa/2012/03/21/epa-loses-big-time-supreme-court

Zero’s appointees use these agencies to enforce their diktats on the people.

dogsoldier on April 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Holder and co are baby killers and one day will pay the price for this.

rjulio on April 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM

You really think this Senate is going to do that?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

No, but the NEXT Senate might.

DannoJyd on April 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore.

Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

It would have been the same cut and paste drivel she always posted when abortion came up. Yawn.

NoDonkey on April 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Oh yeah.

“War on Women since Roe vs. Wade”

“How can old white men decide what a woman can do with her body”

“Yada yada yada blah blah blah”

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 3:00 PM

We already had a lengthy thread on that this morning in Headlines, but it has since moved off the front page. Hopefully a comparable thread will be started on the main page for the second and third shifts later today.

Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Must have missed it. I just got back to town since leaving last Thursday. Thanks for the heads up, though.

timberline on April 9, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Was liberal4life banned? Who should be next?

earlgrey133 on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Maybe 0bamaderangementsyndrom, whose post in the GSA thread is now gone.

Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Lawyers, please speak up.

Isn’t there a BAR case to be made for bringing false testimony in a court case?

barnone on April 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Was liberal4life banned? Who should be next?

earlgrey133 on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Yes. See the Fast and Furious thread today. She got the boot for injecting religious bigotry into every conversation.

As for who’s next? Eventually, every troll pops a gasket and says something banworthy.

CurtZHP on April 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

holder/team have their slimy fingers in mulitiple suits all over the US on states and citizens. I just hope that the judges will find against holder/team in EVERY one of those cases!
L

letget on April 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Yep, it was pretty bad.

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Would make for another good GOP ad, but the Stupid Party will pass up the opportunity.

rbj on April 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Is it just me or are the DOJ folks getting called out more and more lately?

Bmore on April 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

There has not been a Department of Justice…since Juvenile JugEars was voted into office.
The DOJ has been BHO’s personal bully and hatchet.

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Holder may be the man who wins the Presidential election for the Republicans…

right2bright on April 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Are you talking about the white guy who got Holder’s ballot because he didn’t need an ID? Yeah… well, that just proves we need New Black Panthers outside polling places to prevent those white guys from getting in.

The Rogue Tomato on April 9, 2012 at 3:06 PM

There has not been a Department of Justice…since Juvenile JugEars was voted into office.
The DOJ has been BHO’s personal bully and hatchet.

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Indeed.

DOJ = Dept. of Jacka$$ery

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 3:06 PM

But Zimmerman will get a fair trial when Holder arrests him for Trayvon.

Bulletchaser on April 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Was liberal4life banned? Who should be next?

earlgrey133 on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

keninCT just went up a rung on that ladder. Hmmmm… he’s been pretty quiet today.

VietVet_Dave on April 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Democrats lied and babies died.

Soon they will be deciding who gets health care and who doesn’t. Liberals make me ill.

ClanDerson on April 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Every single Republican Senator who voted to confirm the racist and corrupt political tool Holder should be made to pay for that vote at the polls.

Holder had a long track record of corruption and politicizing during his previous tenure at the DOJ. He was evasive and disingenuous during the confirmation hearing. In fact, he perjured himself.

Forget the pure perversion of DOJ resources to politicking, as he did here. If this corrupt and evil man had been rejected, how many people would still be alive today?

novaculus on April 9, 2012 at 3:08 PM

There has not been a Department of Justice…since Juvenile JugEars was voted into office.

The DOJ has been BHO’s personal bully and hatchet.

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The New Black Panthers are doing the job the Ku Klux Klan used to do for the Democrat Party. DOJ has their back.

Roy Rogers on April 9, 2012 at 3:08 PM

It would be nice to see the DOJ called out in the MSM… Oh who am I kidding, I couldn’t even keep a straight face typing that

uncommon sense on April 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Perhaps the DOJ pressed its luck too far by prosecuting the FACE cases — and the decision to prosecute will wake Americans to the president’s pro-abortion-even-at-taxpayer-expense agenda.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for that. The majority already think Republicans are trying to make birth control illegal. They will only spin this as another example of the runaway judiciary trying to turn back the clock on women’s health, and before sundown all the media will have their scripts.

This administration makes me want stay in the shower all day. The crud is nauseating.

2ndMAW68 on April 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

And the thing is the average person will never hear about this. It won’t be reported anywhere in the mainstream media.

ButterflyDragon on April 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Maybe 0bamaderangementsyndrom, whose post in the GSA thread is now gone.

Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM

It’s still here. Just posted.

JPeterman on April 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore.

Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Say wha’..?

affenhauer on April 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

It is to the eternal shame of the MSM that stories like this and F&F are swept under the rug. There is no clearer indication corruption. It’s simply disgusting.

JDF123 on April 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

It’s still here. Just posted.

JPeterman on April 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Feel the breeze of that glorious hammer? It does.

Bmore on April 9, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Unfortunately for pro-lifers, the ruse worked and a number of pro-life Democrats sold out to vote for Obamacare.

Shoot. They should have been voted out for incompetence alone if they seriously believed the EO meant anything. Amazing how the “best and brightest” can get elected but supposedly not have a basic knowledge of government functions.

yhxqqsn on April 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Huh, I kind of wanted to get liberal4life’s take on this. Too bad he/she won’t be joining us anymore. Goldenavatar on April 9, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Ban-hammered? Or did she just see the futility of arguing with people more smarter than her?

Akzed on April 9, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Judge Ryskamp wrote that Holder’s complete failure to present any evidence of wrongdoing, coupled with the DOJ’s cozy relationship with PWC and their apparent joint decision to destroy video surveillance footage of the alleged “obstruction,” caused the court to suspect a conspiracy at the highest levels of the Obama administration.

The Department of “Justice” is conspiring to destroy evidence and this isn’t headline news everywhere?

The enemy is the media.-Breitbart

talkingpoints on April 9, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Ban-hammered? Or did she just see the futility of arguing with people more smarter than her?

Akzed on April 9, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Kinda sucks, in a way. Now where am I gonna get my mid-day chuckle break..?

affenhauer on April 9, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Kinda sucks, in a way. Now where am I gonna get my mid-day chuckle break..?

affenhauer on April 9, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Try this one, not as smart as L4L but still funny.

0bamaderangementsyndrom

Bmore on April 9, 2012 at 3:25 PM

No way Holder is around after October 1. And as much as Holder should be used against Obama, he will deflect and show he is a man of action by taking care of the problem. It will be a non-issue until after the election.

Still hopeful independents see this. They are the key.

sdbatboy on April 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM

It is refreshing to know that we can sometimes find a sensible judge. Holder and his Justice Department are going to be a big help in booting Obama in November. Now if the Supreme Court will just rule the health care bill unconstitutional and void the whole thing we are headed in the right direction.

duff65 on April 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Apparently “my people” does not include pre-born children of color.

Just keeping abortion safe, legal and rare a money-maker for the Democrats!

Marcola on April 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Happy Nomad on April 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

It’s not corruption, it’s that Mitt says one thing and does another… kind of like what Obama did with his Executive Order regarding abortion funding (mentioned above).

Mitt supporters tell us to vote for Mitt, and trust him. But history says otherwise (flip-flopping on issues).

Sorry, but threatening me won’t work this election like it did with McCain. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Remember… if you want my conservative vote, nominate an actual conservative that does what he/she says… with history to back it up. If you don’t have that, you won’t get my vote. I’ve told you the criteria for several years now, don’t get mad at me if you didn’t heed my requirements.

dominigan on April 9, 2012 at 4:07 PM

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liberal4life on April 9, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Ding and Dong, the witch is dead!

cynccook on April 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Unfortunately for pro-lifers, the ruse worked and a number of pro-life Democrats sold out to vote for Obamacare. (Many of them eventually paid for it, though, losing their seats in the 2010 midterm elections.)

I don’t think it’s accurate to say “the ruse worked.” That would imply that the “pro-life” Democrats who accepted it were actually deceived for a moment. It was really just an excuse to give them political cover to betray their supposed pro-life principles. I think it was meant to deceive voters rather than Congressmen, so these people wouldn’t get blamed for turning out to not be pro-life at all.

And since, as you say, many of them lost their seats in 2010, the ruse clearly did NOT work. The voters were not fooled.

didymus on April 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

These people are capable of rounding up dissenters.

They are committed Communists.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM

ding! ding! ding!

But there are too many people who will answer, “That could never happen in America.”

pannw on April 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Here’s the problem with impeachment. You have to go through the Senate to get a “conviction”. You really think this Senate is going to do that?

Bitter Clinger on April 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

I understand that, and see your point (it’s likely the reasoning used by most who would otherwise be in favor of it).

My point though is that the House has abdicated its necessary duty; they obviously cannot control and wouldn’t get a Senate conviction. But they should do what they’re Constitutionally obliged to do, regardless.

Who knows what else would come to light, and — perhaps more importantly — it would put future tyrants on notice that they’ll suffer the shame and scrutiny of an impeachment, conviction or not.

This tyrant’s actions cry out for some kind, any kind, of action …

ShainS on April 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM

coupled with the DOJ’s cozy relationship with PWC and their apparent joint decision to destroy video surveillance footage of the alleged “obstruction,” caused the court to suspect a conspiracy at the highest levels of the Obama administration.

I’d like to know more about this.

Cindy Munford on April 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM

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liberal4life on April 9, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Ding and Dong, the witch is dead!

cynccook on April 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

It’s about time.

As a strickly amateur commenter it may actually be worthwhile to put some thought into posts on HotGas, now that someone is actually cleaning up the worst of the trolls.

And it’s about time that judges start standing up to the illegal Obama administration, as if our constitution mattered to them.

This has me in such a good mood, I’ll even ignore the Rombot sock puppets on this thread trying to tell me that I have to vote for their favorite just because (as if THAT was on-topic).

WhatNot on April 9, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Ding and Dong, the witch is dead!

cynccook on April 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

I almost loaded the song but was afraid it would be OT. Sense you mentioned it though.

Bmore on April 9, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Long Version Here.

Bmore on April 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM

“The Court is at a loss as to why the Government chose to prosecute this particular case in the first place,” wrote Judge Ryskamp.

The DOJ was hoping to get lucky and drawn a different judge. Put a liberal activist judge on the case and Ms. Pine is doing time and the DOJ has their agenda reinforced.

mkrech on April 9, 2012 at 5:50 PM

But armed Black Panthers in military garb intimidating voters at the entrance to a polling place is just fine.

RadClown on April 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Sons of OBama…

Roy Rogers on April 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Remember when Obama said in 2008: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Now who would want to join Obama’s police force?

Gladtobehere on April 9, 2012 at 6:14 PM

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