Mitt Romney’s marvelous speech

posted at 10:03 pm on April 5, 2012 by Karl

Having written about the subtext of Pres. Obama’s Tuesday speech to news editors, it is worth looking at the speech likely GOP nominee Mitt Romney gave in the same venue on Wednesday. As reported at National Journal:

“Nancy Pelosi famous [sic] said that we would have to pass Obamacare to find out what was in it,” Romney said. “President Obama has turned that advice into a campaign strategy: He wants us to re-elect him to find out what he will actually do.

“With all the challenges the nation faces, this is not the time for President Obama’s hide-and-seek campaign,” he added.

Romney argued he presents a stark contrast, boldly laying out his own agenda to solve the country’s litany of problems. That was no more true than when he focused on entitlement spending, an issue Obama has attacked Romney on for adopting the budget proposal put forward by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisc. The plan, the most prominent feature of which includes plans to convert Medicare into a premium-support model, polls poorly with the public, and is clearly an issue the president will highlight ad naseum through November.

But rather than distance himself from Ryan, he resolutely defended the House budget chairman, even praising him by name for having “the courage to offer serious solutions to the problems we face.” And he went on then offensive, accusing Obama of damaging Medicare first. Romney adopted the Democrats’ own attack against Republicans, saying that the president “has taken a series of steps that end Medicare as we know it.”

From this speech, folks on the left see Romney taking Obama’s bait — and that is not an entirely unfair assessment, merely an incomplete one. National Journal reports the Ryan plan polls badly based on its own poll, with an incomplete, misleading question. Nevertheless, given Democrats’ past success with Mediscare campaigns, it is not surprising some are licking their chops today.

However, the left is also missing the subtext of Romney’s speech, which reflects hard-headed realism. It reflects realism about our grave and growing debt problem (even if the Ryan plan is insufficient, it is necessary). It also reflects realism about the general election campaign to come. The Democrats intend to demagogue the Ryan plan and hang it around the neck of the GOP nominee, regardless of the identity of the nominee or his position on the Ryan plan. Romney knows this.

The establishment media, which has already allied itself with gross fiscal irresponsibility, will gleefully assist Team Obama in this campaign. Indeed, Obama’s demagoguery got a standing ovation from a packed house of news editors, while a much smaller crowd of journos gave Mitt Romney the polite golf clap. Romney knows this, too.

In 1996 (surely one of Obama’s models for a Democrat seeking reelection), GOP nominee Bob Dole ran away from the efforts of Newt Gingrich and the GOP Congress to bring the budget under control (even as Newt was driving Bill Clinton to sign welfare reform into law). This year, things could be different. Paul Ryan is probably a more stable ally now than Newt was then (or now). Moreover, even Obama’s budget director has warned that our debt is “serious and ultimately unsustainable.”

On the other hand, it may be — especially if the economy were to perk up between now and November — that Democratic demagoguery on entitlements can succeed again. But Romney’s speech suggests he recognizes he cannot afford to avoid the good fight, because Democrats and the media will surely fight the bad one.

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Rusty Allen on April 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Nope, still didn’t feel it. The words are there but they’re empty.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

the difference between dole, mccain and romney is the former were creature of washington, having spent their entire careers there- they had a need for acceptance from the beltway. the beltway already hates romney. but he has the love and respect of a smoking hot wife, 5 great boys and numerous past business associates. He will fight hard and long before he goes home

drballard on April 5, 2012 at 10:06 PM

he’ll chace him round the moon of nubia and round perditions flame before he gives him up…

drballard on April 5, 2012 at 10:06 PM

and, he’s an executive, not a legislator. you beta males wouldn’t understand….

drballard on April 5, 2012 at 10:07 PM

L4L will be here shortly…

Electrongod on April 5, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I like the GOP’s position in this upcoming battle..:)

PS..Plus the SCOTUS has a big ruling coming up..:)

Dire Straits on April 5, 2012 at 10:11 PM

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

If you want a good feeling go to an orgy. I can live with a Mormon Robot who removes the Marxist Gangster from the White House.

Bore me, Mitt, I love it.

NickDeringer on April 5, 2012 at 10:12 PM

The words are there but they’re empty.

…like your skull…………..

dmann on April 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Romney has a spine and chooses to stand his ground. And he doesit on something that matters. This is an improvement I could actually like.

Where has this guy been?

WhatNot on April 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

he’ll chace him round the moon of nubia and round perditions flame before he gives him up…

drballard on April 5, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Heh, you know what Khan’s very next line is?

“Prepare to alter course.”

Let’s hope Romney doesn’t follow suit.

Doughboy on April 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM

L4L will be here shortly…

Electrongod on April 5, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I’m starting to think L4L is Rmoney™ and not Allah./

Bmore on April 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM

oh please anyone can read off a teleprompter (wink wink) does anyone believe Mr. Pro-Choice-till-he-was-55 is a true conservative at heart and won’t betray you once in office?

DBear on April 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

His speech after Wisconsin was quie good Delivery was a bit stuff but message was strong. I heard lots of Paul Ryan’s input coming through.

rickyricardo on April 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

You need a better stick. I’d lend you my knife to sharpen it up, but I’m afraid you’d get cut, or something.

Bmore on April 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM

“The large crowd at the luncheon yesterday gave President Obama a standing ovation after he finished his sharply partisan campaign speech. After Romney finished his speech today, the crowd remained in their seats…”

Obowma’s speech based completely on lies gets a standing ovation…

… and Mitten’s speech based on facts gets skant applause.

Well we know one thing for sure…

… The journalists in that room love their children and don’t want them killed.

/

Seven Percent Solution on April 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I was not a Romney supporter in 2008, I thought he was an arrogant SOB. I also was not extremely happy with McCain, but that’s what we got.

However, I have to admit, that Romney is starting to grow on me. I think Palin has been right, competition has made these candidates stronger.

I hope this does not mean I’m turning into a RINO…

ccrosby on April 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

President

Rusty Allen on April 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

ROTFLMAO

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

If you want a good feeling go to an orgy.

Eww. Interesting that’s where your mind went first…

I can live with a Mormon Robot who removes the Marxist Gangster from the White House.

Bore me, Mitt, I love it.

NickDeringer on April 5, 2012 at 10:12 PM

A robot is not going to beat Obama. There has to be a reason for non-Republicans to vote for Romney and he’s not providing it. “Not-Obama” only works with people who are pi$$ed off at Obama, and there is not a majority of American voters who fit that description. He needs an affirmative reason for people to choose him.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM

ANYBODY but the Shyster-In-Chief. Let me say this again, ANYBODY.

hillsoftx on April 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I like it… I just hope he means it.

Ukiah on April 5, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Just ignore the trolls…I know its hard to resist shooting fish in a barrel. L4L is pathetic and DBag is nothing more than a 8 track tape…..same loop over and over. Cut them off and watch them wither and blow away.

dmann on April 5, 2012 at 10:22 PM

How is Obamagoing to criticize the Ryan plan when Obama’s plan is to put his head in the sand….?

NeoKong on April 5, 2012 at 10:22 PM

I like it… I just hope he means it.

Ukiah on April 5, 2012 at 10:20 PM

He’s running for President for Pete’s sake. Mr. Etch a Sketch means it alright, for now, but who knows tomorrow?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 5, 2012 at 10:23 PM

ROTFLMAO

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Obama…second term…

ROTFLMAO……

Electrongod on April 5, 2012 at 10:23 PM

It’s the liberal MEEEEDIA!!!! It’s so bias and so…liberal and, and…mean and stuff. XD

StoneKrab on April 5, 2012 at 10:23 PM

The common wealth of Virgina provides state sponsored rape.

carbon_footprint on April 5, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I like it… I just hope he means it.

Ukiah on April 5, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Words are wind.

idesign on April 5, 2012 at 10:27 PM

How is Obamagoing to criticize the Ryan plan when Obama’s plan is to put his head in the sand….?

NeoKong on April 5, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Because the drive-bys never call him on it. Think about it. Does anyone in the Democrat/media complex ever ask Obama what his plan is to tackle entitlements? How he’s going to pay for Obamacare whose cost estimate has already doubled(and will soon triple) since it was signed into law? How he plans to close a $1.3 trillion budget deficit when higher taxes will net maybe $100 billion(and that’s assuming he hits the middle class)?

It’s incumbent then on Mittens, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the GOP to keep hammering Obama on his lack of a plan. Just keep bringing it up in every speech, interview, rally, and campaign ad. Remind the voters how he’s had nearly 4 years and has done nothing. Even if the media never starts to ask questions, many in the electorate will.

Doughboy on April 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Nope, still didn’t feel it. The words are there but they’re empty.alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Empty. Like your head? Go back to the Obama’s Strategy thread and tell us how you would have prevented a run on the banks.

Basilsbest on April 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Obama and the far left will do and say anything to keep the Marxists in office. Just watch MSNBC and all of their hosts from Sharpton, Schultz, O’Donnell and Maddow to get the gust of how the DNC and Wasserman-Schultz will plan Obama’s re-crowning as America’s great messiah. Problem is all the mud-slinging of the past few months will play itself out, guarantee Axelrod will play it up big-time. And the Big 4 networks(ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN)will be more than happy to plow the road for mighty king Obama.

mike0993 on April 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM

A robot is not going to beat Obama. There has to be a reason for non-Republicans to vote for Romney and he’s not providing it. “Not-Obama” only works with people who are pi$$ed off at Obama, and there is not a majority of American voters who fit that description. He needs an affirmative reason for people to choose him.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM

all true. I keep hearing the GOP compare this year to 2004 (the 1 pres. election the GOP has won the popular vote since 1988) and that you guys are gonna win all of GWB’s states from that year but it’s never gonna happen! Wilard is already toxic to latinos no way will he get close to Bush’s 40% hispanic vote, so there goes NM, CO, NV, VA and the election…

DBear on April 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Yet the tag ‘Sketchy’ remains relevant as does his liberal past.

DannoJyd on April 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM

At least we know the press is still ‘Fair and Balanced’…

/

Seven Percent Solution on April 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Romney and Obama are both going to go scorched earth. This will be the ugliest campaign we’ll ever see.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Well, the GOP’s gotta put someone to lose in November.

Might as well be Mittens.

(hey, don’t rag me – I’m just channeling the GOP Ruling Class)

Bruno Strozek on April 5, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Nope, still didn’t feel it. The words are there but they’re empty.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Mitt the 41% candidate.

Mitt the 2012 RINO loser.

But seriously Mitt is only doing this to secure the nomination. Once he has it the big red Reset Button and Presto EtchASketch. New Moderate Mitt will appear.

Would say what I really feel but would lose the internet again.

Steveangell on April 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM

DBear, this year will be like 2004. Unfortunately for my side, Mitt is Kerry, not Bush.

McDuck on April 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM

oh please anyone can read off a teleprompter (wink wink) does anyone believe Mr. Pro-Choice-till-he-was-55 is a true conservative at heart and won’t betray you once in office?

DBear on April 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

You’re one of those guys who could forgive Newt for multiple affairs but can’t forgive Mitt for once being pro choice, amirite?

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 10:41 PM

If you go on c-span and watch the speech, at about the 21 minute mark you see REAL emotion in Romney’s appeal.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Romney-Speaks-at-at-News-Editors-Annual-Conference/10737429620/

Click the link to the right where is says Video Playlist.

It’s worth watching.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 10:42 PM

…like your skull…………..

dmann on April 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Empty. Like your head?

Basilsbest on April 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM

MittBots lack originality.

DBear on April 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Don’t agree with me. I’m not on your team. I’m still hoping either the RNC is smart enough to replace Romney at a brokered convention or Mitt somehow learns how to emote and connect with an audience.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Romney’s speech suggests he recognizes he cannot afford to avoid the good fight, because Democrats and the media will surely fight the bad one.
and here we see reality, redefining government and its role, its power, its creation as such:

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

dmann on April 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM

100th time I have heard the same old sh#t.

Anything new from Willard M. Romney?

liberal4life on April 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 10:42 PM

you seriously want me to sit for over 20 min before he gets to an emotional connection? Sigh….

…and, I watched it, and no there’s still no connection. Sometimes I swear we are looking at two different people.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:47 PM

100th time I have heard said the same old sh#t.

Anything new from Willard M. Romney?

liberal4life on April 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM

ShainS on April 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

oh please anyone can read off a teleprompter (wink wink) does anyone believe Mr. Pro-Choice-till-he-was-55 is a true conservative at heart and won’t betray you once in office?

DBear on April 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

…and Juvenile JugEars didn’t betray almost everyone when he got into office?

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Romney is the first Presidential candidate of either party since Ronald Reagan that I actually sincerely believe.

If you don’t believe he’s conservative enough, go look at his vetoes in Massachusetts. Go look at what was being proposed by the legislature that was nearly 90% Democrat and what actually got passed. Look at what they passed over his 800 different vetoes.

You might be surprised. Really, honestly, research it. It might change your entire outlook. It did mine.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

You’re one of those guys who could forgive Newt for multiple affairs but can’t forgive Mitt for once being pro choice, amirite?

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 10:41 PM

…or for assault weapons bans…or for Romneycare…

In reality there are no true conservatives left, everybody line up for another helping of the best of the worst.

deuce on April 5, 2012 at 10:50 PM

100th time I have heard the same old sh#t.

Anything new from Willard M. Romney?

liberal4life on April 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM

…who’s the repeat offender????

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM

ROTFLMAO

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Barry ain’t laughing. Does it look/sound/feel like Barry’s laughing? Please, point to anything that man has said in months that doesn’t read like a weak-a** front from a Urkel at varsity football tryouts.

M240H on April 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM

ROTFLMAO

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Omyazzisalwaysdraggingonthefloor!

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2012 at 10:55 PM

The adults are in charge.

carbon_footprint on April 5, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Seriously, watch a Romney speech on mute, then watch an Obama speech on mute. If you can’t honestly tell yourself that Obama is better at connecting with the audience, you have blinders on. Telling yourself it’s not going to matter or there’s no real difference is just sticking your head in the sand, not solving the problem.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Obama in Kenyan means: Say anything that soothes the suckers as you pick their distracted pockets.

Mitt is a glove that gets your opponents by the balls.

profitsbeard on April 5, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Look at the difference in the Romney campaign even very early in the process. Romney has a panel of foreign policy and national security advisers already, lead by John Bolton. Who are Gingrich’s and Santorum’s foreign policy and national security panels? What exactly IS Santorum’s and Gingrich’s energy policies beyond “drill, baby, drill”? Who are their energy advisers? I know who Romney’s is.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/energysource/2012/03/21/harold-hamm-has-a-vision-of-americas-energy-independence-he-has-mitt-romneys-ear-too/

Romney is playing big league ball here. He knows how to assemble a team and how to be an executive.

I would say that I am rightly impressed at this point.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Seriously, watch a Romney speech on mute, then watch an Obama speech on mute. If you can’t honestly tell yourself that Obama is better at connecting with the audience, you have blinders on.

And just exactly what darned difference does that make? I don’t CARE about how well someone makes your emotions go. Emotions don’t change economies. Emotions don’t deter enemies. Emotions don’t put food on the table unless you are an actor.

I really don’t give a pinch of owl poop which candidate “connects” best with an audience, I am NOT going to make my voting decision based on that.

Obama’s polices are an absolute disaster for this country. Santorum’s stated vision of the role of government is downright scary. Gingrich can’t be elected.

But I really don’t give a crap who gives a better speech to rouse emotions. Honestly. We fell for that crap once (Obama) we should be smarter than that now.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Seriously, watch a Romney speech on mute, then watch an Obama speech on mute. If you can’t honestly tell yourself that Obama is better at connecting with the audience, you have blinders on. Telling yourself it’s not going to matter or there’s no real difference is just sticking your head in the sand, not solving the problem.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 10:59 PM

I actually disagree. Obama is so effective at giving speeches because he is great at the delivery, not because his body language, mannerisms, or demeanor are that great, in terms of connecting with people. In fact, he looks quite arrogant with his head held high and barely even looking at people because of his reliance on the teleprompters. I think Ingraham is the one that said that it looks as if he’s watching a tennis match. If you watched him on mute, there wouldn’t be much there as you would see with a Bill Clinton or a George W. Bush.

I think Romney’s best moment so far has been at the Huckabee forum where he fielded two questions from the two men with sons in the military. Huckabee and the two fathers were moved by Romney’s response. I hope we see more of that Mitt Romney.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Who are Gingrich’s and Santorum’s foreign policy and national security panels? What exactly IS Santorum’s and Gingrich’s energy policies beyond “drill, baby, drill”?

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:03 PM

First, you are an idiot if you didn’t know that Newt has a much more fleshed-out energy policy than Romney. Second, it totally doesn’t matter anymore what those guys bring to the table. The only question that matters is who is on Obama’s foreign policy and national security panels and what Obama’s energy policies are. Continuing to slam primary opponents who don’t have a chance but whose supporters you need to win is terrifically stupid.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Obama is so effective at giving speeches because he is great at the delivery, not because his body language, mannerisms, or demeanor are that great

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

…er, to me delivery = body language, mannerisms and demeanor, together with vocal lilt. So not sure what distinction you’re making.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Mitt Romney is going to face some serious problems. The country is so broke we can’t hardly afford a military anymore and the world isn’t getting any safer. Social security has gone cash negative and every bond that needs to be redeemed out of the social security trust fund to make up the difference must be paid in cash by a Congress that is already running a deficit. Even though there’s “money” in the trust fund, it is all just a stack if IOU’s because Congress spent the actual cash going back to the 1930′s and replaced it with bonds. Every time the trust fund makes up falls right to our bottom line and adds to the deficit.

In 7 years under Obama’s plan, the INTEREST on the debt will be larger than the entire current defense budget. And that is assuming interests don’t rise from these historically low levels. If interest rates rise, that day comes sooner.

Does Santorum have the business background to understand stuff like this? I don’t think so. His entire private sector experience is being the lawyer for the World Wrestling Federation. Four years of private sector experience. That’s it.

We need a big league candidate for big league problems. It’s Romney.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:19 PM

First, you are an idiot if you didn’t know that Newt has a much more fleshed-out energy policy than Romney

Ok, who’s in his advisory panel, does he even have one or are these some ideas he just concocted in his head? Did he come up with this in concert with industry experts? Which ones?

But it doesn’t matter. Newt Gingrich is gone. The Republican Party has shown him the door. He isn’t an option at this point.

Newt has a history of dreaming quite elaborate plans. Last time I saw him talking about energy he was sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelosi.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM

The key on entitlements, like Medicare, for Republicans is to attack Democrats for not doing enough to save it. You read that right, the democrats, with their own inaction over the government debt, are going to kill medicare, in fact they may kill all entitlements! Over the top, you say? I say no!

The Republicans have to become the party that is going to save the most important entitlements and the only ones anyone cares about, which is Medicare and Social Security. Romney has to paint Obama as the man who played around with Obamacare, handed out billions of dollars to green energy projects, and other idiotic projects, while Medicare and Social Security remained in danger. That money could have been used to help save them, to put them on a stronger footing. Play up that fact that it is not Romney or Ryan who are pushing Grandma off the cliff, but in fact they are trying to save Grandma from going off the cliff, while Obama plays golf and concerns himself with Hollywood fundraisers.

The message to seniors is this:

“Obama is not going to save you, in fact he does not care about you or your most trusted programs, Social Security and Medicare. If he and his party had, they would have made it their priority to make them safe, which they did not. The Democrats are killing Social Security and Medicare by doing nothing about the national debt. They are killing them by their own inaction. It is criminal negligence and many a Grandmother and Grandfather across this great land will suffer because of it. The Republican Party is committed to making sure Social Security and Medicare will be strong and protected for you by fixing out debt crisis and getting rid of the numerous pet programs the Democrats have created that have stolen money from Social Security and Medicare. The Republican Party will right this wrong, and save them from mismanagement and the selfishness of the Democrat Party.”

See stop being frightened of this issue and take the battle to them. Make them defend why they have no plans to save these programs.

William Eaton on April 5, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Romney is the first Presidential candidate of either party since Ronald Reagan that I actually sincerely believe.

If you don’t believe he’s conservative enough, go look at his vetoes in Massachusetts. Go look at what was being proposed by the legislature that was nearly 90% Democrat and what actually got passed. Look at what they passed over his 800 different vetoes.

You might be surprised. Really, honestly, research it. It might change your entire outlook. It did mine.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Exactly. This is why I can’t take people seriously that keep claiming he’ll “etch a sketch” and suddenly be a liberal as soon as he gets in office (likely with a repub majority in on or both houses). He has a spine of steel once he’s made up his mind.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:24 PM

We need a big league

candidate

Democrat for big league problems. It’s Romney.

Fixed.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Wow I slaughtered that… let me try again…

We need a big league candidate Democrat for big league problems. It’s Romney.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:24 PM

First, you are an idiot if you didn’t know that Newt has a much more fleshed-out energy policy than Romney

The guy that wrote a book called “contract with the earth” about climate change?

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:25 PM

…er, to me delivery = body language, mannerisms and demeanor, together with vocal lilt. So not sure what distinction you’re making.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:18 PM

When I speak of delivery, I was referring to the verbal/oral presentation of the speech, not the body language, mannerisms, and demeanor, which is why if Obama and just about anyone were to deliver a speech on radio, he would absolutely dominate. His cadence is perfect. However, you if watch him give a speech on TV with the mute button, he’s not as effective because he comes across as detached/arrogant since he always has his head held high/chin up and barely makes eye contact with the audience. Clinton, Huckabee, and Bush were all great with this aspect.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Look at the difference in the Romney campaign even very early in the process. Romney has a panel of foreign policy and national security advisers already, lead by John Bolton…

Why would I care about anything Romney has set up – he is a Gun Grabbing, Big Spending, Socialized medicine, liberal judge appointing, global Warming alarmist, who is not fit to clean my boots, let alone run a nation.

Willard Fillmoure Romneycare.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Why would I care about anything Romney has set up – he is a Gun Grabbing, Big Spending, Socialized medicine, liberal judge appointing, global Warming alarmist, who is not fit to clean my boots, let alone run a nation.

Willard Fillmoure Romneycare.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Is that what Mark Levin tod you? Remember when Mark Levin said he was the only conservative alternative and gave him a hearty endorsement in 2008?

Remember when Principles Rick said the same thing?

Remember when Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity followed suit?

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Right. Ignore what a person says during a campaign in favor of the ten-year-old smear. I am no longer surprised at your delusional OTT pro-Mittness. It’s like a cult.

And as for Mr. “makes up his mind”, wasn’t he pro-choice until 2002? Hmmmmm….

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Clinton, Huckabee, and Bush were all great with this aspect.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:26 PM

And Mitt is not. It’s just reality.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Romney flat out vetoed the law in Massachusetts that would have allowed illegal aliens to get in-state tuition. He vetoed the legislation that allowed over the counter sale of the morning after pill, the legislature overrode his veto. He vetoed hundreds of line items, over 250 in his last budget bill. The legislature overrode every single one, all 250 of those line items.

He vetoed 8 entire sections of MassHealth and the legislature put them back in. The Romneycare that passed isn’t the Romneycare he proposed.

Please go research it. The reason I say that is because the more you dig, I think the more surprised you will be and the more you will appreciate what actually went on there. Read some of the things he was saying BEFORE he was Governor.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:31 PM

ANYBODY but the Shyster-In-Chief. Let me say this again, ANYBODY.

hillsoftx on April 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM

No conservative, no vote…

…but… because I am a sick and twisted bastard… let’s pretend Mao came back to life and he was on the republican ticket – on a platform of mass genocide. (Not as far fetched as one would think – after all, the establishment is running a Democrat like Romney after all…)

Would you vote for Mao over King Barry Hussein?

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Right. Ignore what a person says during a campaign in favor of the ten-year-old smear. I am no longer surprised at your delusional OTT pro-Mittness. It’s like a cult.

And as for Mr. “makes up his mind”, wasn’t he pro-choice until 2002? Hmmmmm….

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Funny you accuse me of talkiong about something that happend 10 years old and then bring up something Mitt was exactly 10 years ago. LOL.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:32 PM

And Mitt is not. It’s just reality.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:31 PM

I never claimed that he is. I was just saying that Obama isn’t either like you claim.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Yes, anyone but Obama.
I’m certainly going to vote for Romney, the liberal republican. Didn’t care for Santorum, overtly phony; Gingrich was a notch better.
But it’ll take a miracle for Romney to win.
A few more “hot mic” episodes might be just what the Doctor ordered.
Of course in the last campaign he was “caught”… remember cling to guns & religion? Alot of good that did. & most voters don’t care about foreign policy, so what if he’ll be more flexible with Russia after the election, most won’t give a hoot.
So it has to be something personal.
Or maybe just a few more exposures like the GSA gloating over taxpayer perks.
Then again Solyndra with 1/2 billion taxpayer dollars wasted didn’t put a dent in his ratings or curb his appetite to funnel monies to democratic donors.
& the Jobs report, no matter what it is, will be great by September.
I’m thinking…..

Belle on April 5, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Read some of the things he was saying BEFORE he was Governor.

I am more interested in how frequently Willard wiped his ass on the people of his state while he WAS Governor than the lies he let dribble off his forked tongue while he was busy gutting the 2nd amendment and forcing communist health care on his serfs.

That’s not getting into his stances on infanticide and other perfectly acceptable democrat fare…

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

And Mitt is not. It’s just reality.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:31 PM

But it makes absolute zero difference on what kind of policy the man would produce. I don’t CARE how he gives a speech. I care about what is in his budget. My children don’t have to live with his speeches, they DO have to live with his policies.

The ability to give a speech counts somewhere close to zero. The WORST ones at giving speeches in my lifetime have been Eisenhower and George HW Bush. Harry Truman was pretty bad, too, but he was before my time.

Obama is living PROOF that the quality of a speech has no relation to the quality of policy.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Well, it’s too late. Romney’s the candidate. You are either for him or you are for Obama. It really is that simple.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:38 PM

If you don’t believe he’s conservative enough, go look at his vetoes in Massachusetts. Go look at what was being proposed by the legislature that was nearly 90% Democrat and what actually got passed. Look at what they passed over his 800 different vetoes.

You might be surprised. Really, honestly, research it. It might change your entire outlook. It did mine.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I did.

Amazed at how he got the endorcement Planed Parent, LGBT, Teddy Kennedy and other health care interest, Gun Restriction lobbiest.

Amazed at how skillfully he derailed the people when they voted for a .3% tax cut. Romney kept it at 5.3%. He increased taxes 700 million through new taxes and fees.

Amased at how skillfully he derailed the people when they forced a Constitutional Convention to undo Gay Marriage. He said not one word to encourage the people and not one word about the Senate President illegally gaveling close the Convention with no vote.

Go ahead and read Mitts record but keep a pot just in case it makes you puke like it made me puke.

Even Mitts vetoes generally made for a more liberal result like getting federal money when taking away Catholics 1′st amendment rights to be in the Adoption Business.

2012 he still lies often. Like claiming he only got money from two agencies for the Olympics when he got it from all agencies even a cool million from the Dept of Education.

Steveangell on April 5, 2012 at 11:39 PM

He wants us to re-elect him to find out what he will actually do.

Unfortunately, I think we’d also have to elect Romney to find out what he will actually do. Admittedly I do think Obama will do worse because IMO he hates America and wants to transform it.

Words are wind.

idesign on April 5, 2012 at 10:27 PM

I agree.

INC on April 5, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Well, it’s too late. Romney’s the candidate. You are either for him or you are for Obama. It really is that simple.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:38 PM

He’s a plant. Ignore him.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Amazed at how skillfully he derailed the people when they voted for a .3% tax cut. Romney kept it at 5.3%. He increased taxes 700 million through new taxes and fees.

This is like saying Reagan increased spending because Democrats overode his vetoes.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Yeah, I am a rogue Republican on a board full of Obama trolls.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Well, it’s too late. Romney’s the candidate. You are either for him or you are for Obama. It really is that simple.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Well if Mitt Romney is the Republican Party it is time for it to follow the same path the Wig Party it replaced did.

Tea Party should be the new party. The GOP has proved it is just a Jr Varsity Democratic Party.

Steveangell on April 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Romney and Obama are both going to go scorched earth. This will be the ugliest campaign we’ll ever see.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 10:33 PM

And Romney will die by the same sword he used to slay his opponents in the primary.

I will cry for the nation, but I won’t shed a damn tear for the RINO or his followers.

He’s a puny little fish that’s about to realize he’s not in the cute little pond anymore – he won’t be able to buy off the mainstream lib media the way he bullied and/or paid off large tracts of the conservative press. His massive money advantage over Sweatervest and Salamander, that allowed him to snowball them in negative advertising will be a pale ghost compared to the 1,000,000,000.00 USD that President Downgrade will use to crush him.

He will be painted as a right-wing kook, despite being nearly a White version of Obama, and while the conservative base abandons him for being a back-biting, condescending chunk of s*&^, the middle ground people he is so despirately courting, will see only the picture Obama wants painting of Willard Fillmoure Romneycare.

The only thing left for conservatives such as myself is Schadenfreude. I will cry for the destruction of America while I celibate Willard’s destruction in the very manner in which he used against his political opponents.

Comeuppance.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Funny you accuse me of talkiong about something that happend 10 years old and then bring up something Mitt was exactly 10 years ago.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:32 PM

I figured turnabout was fair play.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Romney’s the GOP candidate. You are either for him or you are for Obama. It really is that simple.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:38 PM

No, there are other people running. A vote for a third party candidate is a vote for that candidate. No matter how shrilly partisans claim otherwise, we do have more choices than just Obama and Mitt.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Well, it’s too late. Romney’s the candidate. You are either for him or you are for Obama. It really is that simple.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:38 PM

No. Only simple minds think in black and white.

Not a conservative?

No vote.

The Republican establishment picked the wrong time to play chicken with it’s base. I have for some time been working with my family, my employees, and my congregation against Willard, and I can promise you those efforts will only double if this monster is forced on us.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:48 PM

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM

If you raise the most money, you get to spend the money. That’s the way it works. If you don’t like it, too bad.

I’m not going to dignify the rest of your mindless drivel with a response.

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:48 PM

And Romney will die by the same sword he used to slay his opponents in the primary.

I will cry for the nation, but I won’t shed a damn tear for the RINO or his followers.

He’s a puny little fish that’s about to realize he’s not in the cute little pond anymore – he won’t be able to buy off the mainstream lib media the way he bullied and/or paid off large tracts of the conservative press. His massive money advantage over Sweatervest and Salamander, that allowed him to snowball them in negative advertising will be a pale ghost compared to the 1,000,000,000.00 USD that President Downgrade will use to crush him.

He will be painted as a right-wing kook, despite being nearly a White version of Obama, and while the conservative base abandons him for being a back-biting, condescending chunk of s*&^, the middle ground people he is so despirately courting, will see only the picture Obama wants painting of Willard Fillmoure Romneycare.

The only thing left for conservatives such as myself is Schadenfreude. I will cry for the destruction of America while I celibate Willard’s destruction in the very manner in which he used against his political opponents.

Comeuppance.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Sooooo, good. You’re still thinking about it and you might climb on board and vote Romney. Excellent!

Rational Thought on April 5, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Well if Mitt Romney is the Republican Party it is time for it to follow the same path the Wig Party it replaced did.

Tea Party should be the new party. The GOP has proved it is just a Jr Varsity Democratic Party.

Steveangell on April 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM

From God’s lips to my ears sir.

You put it eloquently, and simply.

If Willard Fillmoure Romneycare – a Democrat – is the new face of the Modern Republican party, then by God, it’s it’s for a new party.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:50 PM

I don’t CARE how he gives a speech. I care about what is in his budget. My children don’t have to live with his speeches, they DO have to live with his policies.

crosspatch on April 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

That’s all well and good for you, but not all voters think like you. People mostly don’t vote for policies or platforms, they vote for the candidate that makes them feel good. The candidate that wins is the candidate with a personal connection to the most voters.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Romney is as corrupt as Obama.

Jayrae on April 5, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Earlier today, Alahpundit linked a Right Scoop Article on Romney… a quick perusal of the comments mirrored my feelings… Romney – and his surrogates – have spent so much time stamping out, talking down to, attacking, and behaving in a hideous way to conservatives, that he has turned off large tracts of them.

Romney is not our candidate, he is the RNC’s candidate. Theoretically, one could use the same argument about Romney that people do about O – that he has nothing substantive to run on, so his campaign consists of slamming his opponents.

Romney, like McCain 08, generate nothing but apathy, Washington is a joke…

I have been turned off to Romney because of his negative smear campaign and his lack of ability to articulate / convince Conservatives as to why we should support him. He thinks he is entitled to the nomination / Presidency and he thinks that people will have no choice but to vote for him. Many will stay home because they don’t like him. I don’t care for him either (Romney) but I am going to vote for anyone that has a chance at defeating The Marxist Liar in Chief (Obama).

Until there’s enough real conservative votes to oust Boehner and McConnell I don’t trust them not to rubber stamp Romney. IMO a vote for Romney is going to deliver 06 and 08 again in 14 and 16 as the GOP once again tacks left and makes Republicans unelectable again in midterms and 16.

I have yet heard any person who is trying to defend Romney actually try to argue that it will be different than 2006. We will be taking another 2 steps backwards with Romney, not the two steps forward we need in changing the path.

Until we elect enough conservatives to oust or never put in place jellyfish like Boehner and McConnell it will continue to be two steps back and the elites that plant their lips on Goldman Sach’s butt will continue to play good cop/bad cop with us as we keep sliding down the hill. No thanks! We must think longer term and a lame duck Obama doesn’t frighten me as much as the prospect of repeating 06 and 08 which is why we got Obama in the first place. The RINOs/Rovians are responsible for us getting Obama in first place they tarnished the GOP brand so badly and they want Romney. NUTS!!

We are not staying home. We are simply going to help other good candidates at the local and state level, but NOT vote for O or Mitt. That’s all.

Romney bashes the Republican field, but said he refuses to go negative on Obama. Hey Mr. Good Hair, just tell the danged truth about the bowing usurper!! You are so weak.

Romney is slightly less of a disaster than Obama. That’s the strongest thing going for him, not much. He says lots of good things but doesn’t sell it. True Conservatives don’t like or trust him as one of us.

He doesn’t sell it because he didn’t live it when he was governor in MA.

It’s strange that so many Romney supporters use language more fitting for a dictatorship than a free republic. Nobody here is ‘forced to vote’ for anyone. Nor are we ‘petty’ for holding to constitutional principles. This may be the last time my vote counts for anything, so it will be for someone I believe in. If this is the Alamo, I’m going down fighting.

Romney supporters sound like every other rabid liberal leftist agenda group. They use smears, nasty names and accusations, etc.I do not respect Romney. I do not like Romney. Or his supporters. They are too much like Obama and his crowd.

This is precisely what those of us on the Right have been saying — since 2008 — would happen if this was allowed to go on again in the ’12 cycle. Once again, the Republican establishment chooses to ignore us, and I can’t help but wonder if they won’t pay the ultimate price in this upcoming national election.

The Republican establishment lost big in 06 and 08. Didn’t phase them.The TP delivered them a big victory in 10. Again, didn’t phase them.Its their party. They will let you know when you are needed.

Romney and a not conservative enough (yet) GOP are going to rubber stamp Romney and we’ll get 06 in 14 and 08 in 16 as they tarnish the GOP brand AGAIN and leave Republicans unelectable. This ABO BS is extremely short sighted and place too much trust in the GOP and its leaders Boehner and McConnell. Until there are enough actual conservatives to oust Boehner and McConnell a vote for Romney probably does more bad than good.

Romney’s present behaviour proves he is a divisive attacker – not a uniter – because to do so would require scruples and an understanding of the issues America faces. Scruples… he has none. An understanding of where America is… well that depends upon with whom he last spoke. Where does that leave us? Well… if nominated it will be McCain Act 2…

John McCain with more hair and nicer teeth. Count me out.

What Romney should do and what he will do are miles apart. ROmney represents the Republican version of Obama’s “Hope and Change” campaign of 2008.

All Romney has going for him is a large warchest, negative advertising and good hair. There’s no substance below all of that. He knows he can’t win on his record (remind you or anyone?) so he has to go negative on his opponents (except Paul) in order to eliminate the competition. Again, remind you of anyone?

Gingrich and Santorum may lack the warchest, but they make up for it with passion, intelligence, a love for their country, family values, respect for people and ideas that actually make sense. They have spoken out about Obama, his ties to radicals, Saul Alinsky when no other candidate has done so.

Can Romney heal the rift? That is a scenario waiting to be written. For now, he is all flash and no substance and to me, is the 2012 version of John McCain.

It’s too late now though. He’s toast. He will almost surely lose to Obama as they will unite and we won’t.

However, it may not be a bad thing….in the long run for both the GOP and the country. Short-term, bad for O to win.

How am I suppose to get behind a guy whose only asset is to tear down his opponents? What does he stand for? Does anyone know? Mark Levin is correct as usual. Romney will not be able to unite the party if he continues to attack Conservatives. There will be many who will sit out this election all because Romney wants to win at all cost. If the day ever comes when Santorum says he’s ending his campaign, that will be the day I will make plans to move back to Texas. I just don’t see a bright future for this country.

Romney stands for
1-romneycare
2-cap n tax
3-$50 abortions

He’d just rather not talk about that until he gets to 1144.

I actually emailed Levin this afternoon before his show came on with this very topic.

I told him that both Newt and Santorum together have 5.4+ million votes. Romney has 4.5+million votes, 41%. So as you can see, the not-Romney vote is greater than what Romney has, which will not win a general election.

Houston, we have a problem. The RNC is selling us all down the river with a losing candidate.

Sorry I will never get behind Romney, this guy is a flat out liar. Write in vote this year for me. Before anyone says well thats a vote for obama, well I have this to say I’m not voting for either Romney or Obama so as you just read I’m not voting for either, so that makes my vote really count because I’ll be voting for the best conservative.

I will not vote for Romney myself and I think ABO is short sighted. I will focus on local and House and Senate on national. The GOP can and will reel Obama in if they have both Houses of which they don’t now. Imagine Obama’s ratings if a GOP Senate was passing Bill after Bill to his desk. He can’t veto them all and I don’t fear a second term lame duck. I fear Romney and the GOP rubber stamping more because I remember last time GOP had all the power and I remember 06 and 08 where a Republican could hardly win because of the RINO establishment hacks now forcing Romney.

Let’s see, in Massachusetts, Romney gave the people socialized medicine, appointed several liberal judges to the bench, and expanded state covered abortions in his state. People who vote their conscience are not going to not vote for Romney because their guy didn’t win (if that happens), but because of Romney’s own record.

Well your crazy if you think Romney will keep his promise and kill Obamacare which he created! Your crazy if you think all of us with CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES are just going to roll over for the GOP Elites and you dupes who believe their lies: Romneys our only chance to beat Obama! It’s funny how you all blindly REFUSE like lefty/liberals to look at all Romney’s faults and make excuses for them! All we have to do is keep Santorun/Gingrich close enough for a Brokered convention, where anything is possible! Even a random Republican like Jeb Bush,Rubio or even possibly best scenario Sarah Palin jumps in, would all be preferable to RINO ROMNEY! Not to mention as Mr.Levin said Romney has a bad reputation even among Independents,who are vital to our success,you cannot turn that around!

Tired of people saying it is a vote for 0. No. If I am voting for neither, it is a vote for neither. I am voting my conscience this year. I couldn’t hold my nose tight enough to vote for Romney.

NOBODY tells me who vote for.

I too am tired of repeatedly holding my nose and voting. Isn’t the mark of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome? The moderate Bob Dole, John McCain lost and now we are to be thinking that moderate Mitt will win…right-o.

The Romney supporters have no comprehension how terribly insulting they have been to conservatives. Then …they go and do it again pissing you off so much you start to think about writing this country off and simply plugging into the Matrix the rest of your years.

To everyone who says that “you must vote for Romney”, or that not voting for Romney is a vote to re-elect Obama, think about it-isn’t that what the fight is all about, rights, freedoms and responsibilities, the ones the Democrats want to take away from everyone? IMHO, it’s not just on TRS, it’s everywhere, this fearmongering, a liberal tactic, to whip people up into doing something they don’t believe in.

Vote however and for whomever you want, but don’t chastise people for staying true to themselves and voting/not voting according to their consciences.

Those of us who believe in God’s sovereignty, we believe that God can work through “impossible” circumstances when His people are faithful.

My vote is an expression of my conscience. I would not tell anyone how to vote but I have an obligation to steward my vote in a way that honors God. I trust Him to work out His will for our nation because it is he who sets up and tears down kings and nations.

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That’s a hell of alot of pissed off people. This scortched earth crap that Willard STARTED is now going to bite him in the ass. The monkey-work and coronation from the Republican Establishment has gone from me thinking them DAFT to me being CONVINCED that they must be dismantled in the manner of the Whigs, and rebuilt.

I went from supporter with time, money, and talk of the Republican party, to flat our hating them. And it’s ALL because of the way I have been treated by Romney’s people, the horrible things Roney and his hatchet-men have said, and the WORSE things he has DONE this election cycle.

This year has turned me against the establishment. I am a conservative looking for a home. A group that respects my ideals, where I don’t have to deal with sneering east-coast gentry class tools demanding I vote for them, while hurling invectives my way at every opportunity – I am not your Housewife to BEAT Mitt Romney and Republican Establishment.

SilverDeth on April 5, 2012 at 11:57 PM

That’s all well and good for you, but not all voters think like you. People mostly don’t vote for policies or platforms, they vote for the candidate that makes them feel good. The candidate that wins is the candidate with a personal connection to the most voters.

alwaysfiredup on April 5, 2012 at 11:52 PM

That’s why a lot of people voted for Obama and look where that got them.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM

you raise the most money, you get to spend the money. That’s the way it works. If you don’t like it, too bad.

I’m not going to dignify the rest of your mindless drivel with a response.

Why didn’t the Conservatives show up and vote for us?? I don’t understand!!!

GOPRanknFile on April 5, 2012 at 11:48 PM

I fixed it for you, to reflect you demeanor come November 2012.

You still won’t understand even then, despite your post above containing all of the answers to your anguished question…

SilverDeth on April 6, 2012 at 12:01 AM

That’s why a lot of people voted for Obama and look where that got them.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Liberal Drones vote “party line” no matter what.

I, as a thinking, reasoning person, don’t reward a restaurant when they serve me a s*&^ sandwich. In point of fact, I feel that giving them my money – despite them providing me 2 slices of moldy wonder-bread cradling a chunk of poo – incentivises them to continue to attempt to feed me s*&^.

Republican Establishment: “Hey look, these stupid hicks keep eating this… they must LIKE IT!”

If you want them to stop serving it, stop eating it.

SilverDeth on April 6, 2012 at 12:05 AM

That’s why a lot of people voted for Obama and look where that got them.

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Most still don’t regret their votes, and in the absence of a compelling alternative, will do it again. That is the whole point.

alwaysfiredup on April 6, 2012 at 12:08 AM

You’re one of those guys who could forgive Newt for multiple affairs but can’t forgive Mitt for once being pro choice, amirite?

Swerve22 on April 5, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Let’s make this clear – I am not fond of Salamander. AT ALL.

But… are you trying to equivocate murdering babies with sleeping around?

Just checking…

SilverDeth on April 6, 2012 at 12:09 AM

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