VP buzz about Paul Ryan grows louder

posted at 2:35 pm on April 4, 2012 by Tina Korbe

It was clear by the president’s outrageous speech yesterday that Barack Obama thinks he has something either to gain or to fear — electorally speaking — from the Paul Ryan budget plan. From now until November, the Paul Ryan plan will not become law. The president has no reason to attack it right now unless he thinks the plan affects his electoral chances.

Perhaps the president thinks that Americans — if they allow themselves to learn the specifics — will embrace the cogent, forward-thinking plan and that Ryan’s blueprint will actually boost the GOP’s chances in an election that will determine, for better or worse, the fiscal future of the nation. Perhaps the president simply thinks attacks on the plan will distract the electorate from his many failures. I’m inclined to think it’s the latter, but a case can be made that it’s the former.

Paul Ryan has truth on his side: Entitlement programs are the key drivers of our deficit and debt and they’ll implode if we take no steps to reform them. The president has to work overtime to ensure that that truth doesn’t get out. If it does, Americans will clamor to know what the president’s entitlement reform plan is — and he’ll be forced to admit he doesn’t have one. His vision for the future of the country is the expansion of the entitlement state, not its reform. Unfortunately, that vision is unsustainable.

Romney’s confident embrace of the Ryan plan suggests that Romney thinks the Ryan budget will be a boon, not a burden to his presidential campaign. If Obama’s plan is to attack the Ryan plan to reelection and Romney’s plan is to ride the Ryan plan to victory, then doesn’t it stand to reason that Ryan should be on the GOP ticket? That’s what more and more conservatives and liberals alike seem to be thinking.

Here’s The Washington Examiner’s Charlie Spiering, for example:

Paul Ryan took the stage last night in Wisconsin to introduce Mitt Romney and thank supporters ahead of his victory speech. Conservatives reacted favorably, sparking speculation that the speech was a trial balloon for Ryan as a Vice President candidate for Romney.

Ryan challenged Obama for his “broken promises” reminding voters that he would try to divide Americans because he could not run on his record.

“I seem to remember him saying that he was going to be a uniter, not a divider,” Ryan said. “Frankly this is one and the worst of his broken promises. We do not need a campaigner-in-chief, we need a commander-in-chief we need a leader that America deserves.”

And The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza:

It’s not hard to imagine this thought in Romney headquarters this morning: You want to make the Ryan plan the centerpiece of this campaign? Fine. Game on. That’s a fight we want.

If you believe — and you should — that the dominant issue of this campaign is over which party has the best plan to put the country on sound financial footing then there’s no better way for Romney to drive a contrast with Obama than to put the face of the conservative approach to budgeting on the national ticket. (It doesn’t hurt that Ryan is telegenic, beloved by tea party conservatives and from a swing state like Wisconsin.)

Obviously we are still very early in the veepstakes. And, speculation about Ryan — or anyone else — is just that: speculation. But, it’s clear that Ryan’s stock has soared in recent days. And he’s got President Obama to thank for it.

Cillizza is right: This is a fight Romney should want because it’s a fight Romney could actually win. Who better to help him wage it than Paul Ryan himself?

Update (Allahpundit): Via Spiering, here’s video of Ryan’s speech.


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There has to be diversity on the ticket.

Romney and Ryan are NOT a true representation of America

liberal4life on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM/blockquote>

Yes, and if there is, say, a West or a rubio on the ticket we’ll all get to hear you tell us nonstop about how it’s just tokenism, and the RethugliKKKans are just clamping down to keep their inner racist selves quiet because they are more racist towards Obama, and would even suffer the indignity of a minority VP if only to get rid of our first white-black president (Bill Clinton was the first black president, I’m told).

A question for you, and yes, I know I’m foolishly engaging a troll who lives in her parents basement…

Shouldn’t we judge people not on the color of their skin, but on the content of their character? Didn’t someone say that once.

Your insistance on discriminating against people based on their skin color is, well, isn’t that kind of racist, or something….

kjl291 on April 4, 2012 at 3:14 PM

That won’t work with Ryan. Maybe with someone like Newt who always sounds PO’d even when he’s smiling. But Ryan’s got that unflappable mirth and likeability about him. He’s young, telegenic, and looks too much like Topher Grace for the drive-bys to demonize him effectively as an evil granny killer.

Doughboy on April 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I hear ya. Hopefully, you’d be right, but that won’t stop the MSM from trying to mess with Paul Ryan’s reputation. I’m surprised they haven’t gone after his love for Metallica yet.

They’re certainly going to try and paint Paul Ryan as the guy who wants to take away everyone’s benefits, entitlements, etc.

shannon76 on April 4, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Does Representative Paul Ryan belong one step from the Office of the Presidency? A policy wonk from the House of representatives?

Dr Evil on April 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Hmmm, a 7-term House policy wonk who can actually create a policy of his own who possesses actual financial intelligence, the eloquence to explain it in a non-condescending manner, and the guts to put it all on the line …

as opposed to the over-the-hill, rarely coherent, prone-to-cursing buffoon and Obama water-boy Joeke Bidin’-his-time?

or as opposed to the know-nothing, do-nothing socialistmarxistcommunist narcissistic community organizing foot-stomping little Lord Fauntleroy who spent a whole 143 actual working days in the US Senate who now “occupies” the WretchedHive?

I’ll take my chances with the policy wonk who knows how to manage the money, and I’ll take Ryan over Rubio any day.

stukinIL4now on April 4, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Much rather see Ryan as the budget guy. Can he really spearhead the budget battle as a VP?

steved95 on April 4, 2012 at 3:15 PM

There has to be diversity on the ticket.

Romney and Ryan are NOT a true representation of America

liberal4life on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM

(sorry ,screwed up the blockquote, let me try again)

Yes, and if there is, say, a West or a rubio on the ticket we’ll all get to hear you tell us nonstop about how it’s just tokenism, and the RethugliKKKans are just clamping down to keep their inner racist selves quiet because they are more racist towards Obama, and would even suffer the indignity of a minority VP if only to get rid of our first white-black president (Bill Clinton was the first black president, I’m told).

A question for you, and yes, I know I’m foolishly engaging a troll who lives in her parents basement…

Shouldn’t we judge people not on the color of their skin, but on the content of their character? Didn’t someone say that once?

Your insistance on discriminating against people based on their skin color is, well, isn’t that kind of racist, or something….

kjl291 on April 4, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Thursday: Luis Fortuno introduces Mitt Romney

cpaulus on April 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I want Caesar Flickerman to introduce him.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 4, 2012 at 3:16 PM

A train wreck in the making

liberal4life on April 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM

…You ARE a train wreck, in every sense!

KOOLAID2 on April 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Lastly, I’d pay good money to see a Ryan/Bite Me debate. It’ll probably end up being the most lopsided matchup ever seen in Presidential politics. Even Rick Perry will be cringing at how bad Bite Me does.

Doughboy on April 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM

All he has to do is make a comment about agreeing with the auto-bailouts and you’ll end up dissatisfying even more conservatives at the voting booth in November.

How everyone pretty much ignores the giant fiscally-liberal voting record of Paul Ryan on this site is beyond me.

Notorious GOP on April 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

How everyone pretty much ignores the giant fiscally-liberal voting record of Paul Ryan on this site is beyond me.

Notorious GOP on April 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

How can you possibly claim that Ryan has a fiscally liberal voting record? Because he voted for TARP, which has been explained over and over again. When he was a backbencher he supported the Republican president, which is what you have to do as a backbencher, whether you like it or not. Had he not the same people saying he’s a RINO would have impaled him for being a traitor to Bush. He’s the first Republican to seriously offer a reform plan to Medicare because he can see the disaster that’s heading our way.

cpaulus on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

How everyone pretty much ignores the giant fiscally-liberal voting record of Paul Ryan on this site is beyond me.

Notorious GOP on April 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Should we all take our ball and go home?

kjl291 on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

…Obama is a failed president…This is going to be fun.

Chuck Schick on April 4, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Let’s hope so. The alternative will be extraordinarily un-fun.

Tsar of Earth on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

The War Planner on April 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM

There is a post of it on the new post about Joe Biden on the main page of Hot Air..:)

PS..I hope things are going well for you..:)

Dire Straits on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

He’s my choice. I would rather throw it all out on the table and lose with the Ryan plan.

rubberneck on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

How about this for a convention schedule:

Monday: Chris Christie, Nicki Haley, Ann Romney

Tuesday: Allen West, Bobby Jindal, Bob McDonnel

Wednesday: Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio (keynote), Paul Ryan (VP)

Thursday: Luis Fortuno introduces Mitt Romney

cpaulus on April 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It’s a good start, but we need to accommodate a few more speakers, particularly women, even in minor roles

Bush 43
Scott Walker
Suzanna Martinez
Kelly Ayotte
Mitch Daniels
Jan Brewer
Marsha Blackburn
Michele Bachmann

matthew8787 on April 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

…You ARE a train wreck, in every sense!

KOOLAID2 on April 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

communist4life just graduated useful idiot basic training, so a little slack is in order I believe.

darwin on April 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

There has to be diversity on the ticket.

Romney and Ryan are NOT a true representation of America

liberal4life on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Pointless. You would reject them no matter who it was.

itsspideyman on April 4, 2012 at 3:24 PM

My pick is Rubio

liberal4life on April 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

No, your pick is Biden. A hapless moron.

rubberneck on April 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I would like to see Paul Ryan as the VP choice. Wisconsin is a winnable state for Mitt because he doesn’t carry social conservative baggage and appeals to the upscale suburban voters that the GOP hasn’t won since ’88.

I am a little bit concerned about Florida with the demagougery of Medicare from O-dufus if Ryan is on the ticket, but that’s going to happen to some extent regardless of who the VP choice is. If Florida is that close, election night is going to be a struggle anyway.

Love this pick (my 2nd choice after John Thune).

ak90049 on April 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM

If Mitt wins the primaries, it will be Gov. McDonnell.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Agreed. And id be pretty happy about it, hes solid.

Dream ticket is Rubio/Ryan.

Im a big fan of Romney’s which is somewhat unpopular around here, I just think hes a business guy that got into politics. Personally i think hes perfect from a fiscal point of view – I dont think he really cares about social issues that much which is why he gets into trouble talking about them.

UBuffaloBulls on April 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM

I keep hearing whispers about John Thune – how many votes does SD have – three? I get that Thune is experienced, well-vetted, and has good chemistry with Romney.

But so what? He’s just the “Dick Cheney” type of boring pick.

matthew8787 on April 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM

It would be a tough decision. Rubio is more of the traditional VP bulldog. Ryan is a total wonk. Either of them have more smarts in their toenails than BiteMe and would run circles around him in a debate. Neither of them will definitely deliver their home state, but we have a better track record in Florida. Do you want the Mediscare target or the amnesty-shill target? Looks like Rubio is starting to put together a plan to blunt that attack. Ryan just whips the opposition with his brain.

As a Virginian, I love McDonnell, but I don’t see how he helps us, really. He isn’t THAT well-known and won’t make much of a difference geographically with VA. The large black population in the Hampton Roads area stayed home since Creigh Deeds was a white democrat running in a special election. They will be out voting for Obama again.

Anyone want to weigh in on how much they think Portman would help us in Ohio?

The Count on April 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM

How about this for a convention schedule:

Monday: Chris Christie, Nicki Haley, Ann Romney

Tuesday: Allen West, Bobby Jindal, Bob McDonnel

Wednesday: Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio (keynote), Paul Ryan (VP)

Thursday: Luis Fortuno introduces Mitt Romney

cpaulus on April 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Not bad. Personally, I would strike Bob McDonnell, he lost his value with the whole ultrasound / abortion flap and is now too polarizing to be given a spot. Ditto with Palin, no need to blow up the independent / moderate vote by having her involved. Swap Bob McDonnell with Rob Portman and Palin with either Brian Sandoval or Susan Martinez and I think that’s a pretty solid lineup.

ak90049 on April 4, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I’d rather get Santorum VP to emphasize how evil birth control is.
hanzblinx on April 4, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Are you serious?! We have runaway deficits, an unsustainable debt, one of the weakest recoveries in history, the highest (as of Sunday) corporate tax in the world, stagflation, a weakened economy, entitlements run amuck, etc, etc, etc… And your issue for an election that will define whether we become a socialist superstate or a productive country trying to go back to its roots is “abortion“?

If we don’t have our priorities straight we are going to loose.

ptcamn on April 4, 2012 at 3:34 PM

am a little bit concerned about Florida with the demagougery of Medicare from O-dufus if Ryan is on the ticket

Paul Ryan should be able to articulate in clear, comprehensible language how Obamacare raids the Medicare trust fund for its own funding and turn that lie back around.

Right Mover on April 4, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I keep hearing whispers about John Thune – how many votes does SD have – three? I get that Thune is experienced, well-vetted, and has good chemistry with Romney.

But so what? He’s just the “Dick Cheney” type of boring pick.

matthew8787 on April 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM

He’s the perfect do no harm pick. Appeals to fiscal, defense and socons. If you are trying to get back to the 2000 / 2004 electoral map, which is as far as your going to move the electorate from the 2008 map, I think he’s the guy.

ak90049 on April 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM

I’m the world’s biggest Paul Ryan fan, and yet I hate the thought of his being the VP choice.

His value is as a thought leader, whereas as VP he would have to defer to Romney’s policy decisions, which would be much less gutsy. Then Ryan would have to argue publicly for the course chosen, rather than having an independent base to push for more decisive action.

Also, as VP he would be a bigger target for caricature by the opposing side, while deprived of his power in the House to pursue the changes he actually favors.

I think this choice would considerably diminish Ryan’s value, much as I love the guy.

Chuckles3 on April 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM

“His vision for the future of the country is the expansion of the entitlement state, not its reform. Unfortunately, that vision is unsustainable.”

Why “unfortunately”? It’s obscene that approximately half of the US lives off the work of the other half. Further, being a parasite totally diminishes the confidence and well-being of anyone who doesn’t contribute to society, even though many of the moochers clearly don’t know this. It’s a sick system, rotten at its heart, and it needs to go.

Samantha on April 4, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Romney’s speech today to the newspaper editor’s association is up on C-SPAN

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Romney-Speaks-at-at-News-Editors-Annual-Conference/10737429620/

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

ABRtards can’t be bothered with actually listening to what Romney says. It would destroy their ABRtard memes. And they CAN’T have that.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Chuckles3, I see your concerns, but I must disagree with you. I think it would improve his brand, and make him into a realistic presidential candidate four or eight years from now. Were he the VP, it is far more probable that his plan is the one the administration would support, for one reason: it is the only realistic plan anyone has proposed, and others in a Romney administration would be too timid to propose any other realistic plan. There are too many mines to step on if you propose any plan; others in the administration would not propose their own idea if this one was out there already.

Honestly, I don’t like the idea of Romney being the nominee for the GOP, I do like the idea of Ryan as VP nominee. I have a strange sense of deja vu… didn’t I say something like this four years ago…?

Warmest regards,
Dr. Urchin

DrUrchin on April 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM

If the debate is Ryan’s plan versus Obama’s plan, then Obama is toast. We have already see Obama’s plan and things have gotten worse. Even some of the idiot voters will recognize this and idiots are the only voting block Obama can go after.

jeffn21 on April 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM

How everyone pretty much ignores the giant fiscally-liberal voting record of Paul Ryan on this site is beyond me.
Notorious GOP on April 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Don’t let the “ideal” be the enemy of the “good”. There is no perfect candidate for any role (for how great the Gipper was as president, did you check his record as governor? You’d be saying the same thing about him you say about Ryan).

This is an election that will define the direction if the country, and if everyone who is waiting for a “perfect conservative” stays on the sideline we are going to loose bad. The changes that must be done to get us back on track will require tough choices and sacrifice from everyone (not the Obama “shared sacrifice” which only includes a small group of people), and no change of course will happen overnight as a result. But unless we start somewhere, and at the very least stop the bleeding in a first step, we are never turning this ship around.

Ryan has some good ideas but, most importantly, he is clear explaining policies which would be an asset. Most importantly, he has shown he has the guts to confront our dear leader whenever he starts on one of his attack rants. And trust me, there’s going to be a lot of confrontation this year probably more than ever before (and that is saying a lot).

There are many good VP choices out there, but Ryan wouldn’t be a bad choice either under those conditions.

ptcamn on April 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Go ahead and say it you Anyone but Romney crowd, “Ryan is part of the Republican Establishment!” Whatever!

mark cantu on April 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM

It’s a good start, but we need to accommodate a few more speakers, particularly women, even in minor roles

Bush 43
Scott Walker
Suzanna Martinez
Kelly Ayotte
Mitch Daniels
Jan Brewer
Marsha Blackburn
Michele Bachmann

matthew8787 on April 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

I really hope Bush 43 won’t be there speechifying. He’s an easy campaign fodder for the Dems. As for Michele Bachmann, there are plenty of uninhabited planets where I would gladly “accommodate” her.

Archivarix on April 4, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Biden represents the functionally retarded. There’s plenty of those.

Chuck Schick on April 4, 2012 at 3:08 PM

No wonder the ABRtards are so against Romney. They already have representation.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I’m OK with Ryan, but want him to stay in the House for another 8 years…

That way when President Romney is completing his second term, has the budget well on way to balance/BALANCED due to the Republican controlled House AND Senate working together, restored the military AND our standing in the world, the VP can “fleet up” and pick Paul Ryan as the next VP for 8 years, setting him up for the Presidency in 16 years…

Plan the work… work the plan…

Khun Joe on April 4, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I think Ryan would be an asset to any ticket. This is a Paul Ryan thread. And yet, remarkably, there are still the usual number of abrasive folks on here who can’t be content unless they stoke the flames and try to stir up some unprovoked moderate-on-right warfare.

Unbelievable. Please, give it a rest. Ryan would be a great VP choice. Obama is the enemy. Period. Enough already.

Right Mover on April 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Paul Ryan, simple put, is THE MAN WITH THE PLAN.

We are facing an economic catastrophe. On January 1, 2013 the Bush Tax Cuts expire, and the new, higher taxes passed by the Democrats and the Obama administration kick in at the very same moment. The economy of the United States will simply step off a cliff.

The cuts that will also kick in due to the SEQUESTRATION that came out of the failed budget talks, when the “Grand Bargain” failed to materialize, will be disastrous to our governmental mechanisms from the military to Medicare reimbursements.

Obama has submitted another budget, one that failed to get a single vote from Democrats in the House of Representatives, and now seems destined for the same fate in a vote in the Senate. The Democrats have not passed a single budget in over 1,000 days… over three years of the Obama administration. The nation has record debt under the Obama administration… and a record budget deficit in trying to service that debt.

Paul Ryan has developed a plan that will actually save our military, Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid, and all other necessary functions of the federal government, for future generations.

The budget plan developed by Paul Ryan passed the House of Representatives on a bipartisan vote.

When Romney is elected President, he will not be sworn in until January 20, 2013. The Bush tax breaks expire, and the new taxes kick in on January 1, 2013. If allowed to stand, it will be an economic disaster for this nation.

It is imperative that Romney has a budget that is ready to implement as soon as he takes office. It is equally important, vital, that he have the man who wrote that budget on hand to explain it to the nation and his fellow legislators so that it can be passed and implemented immediately.

That budget is Paul Ryan’s plan and the man who can best explain it to the nation and his fellow lawmakers is Paul Ryan.

As Vice President, Paul Ryan would also then be free to oversee the implementation of his budget plan AND to oversee the coordination, planning, and implementation of the new budgets each year thereafter.

That’s why Paul Ryan is the best choice for Vice President.

thatsafactjack on April 4, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Paul Ryan should be able to articulate in clear, comprehensible language how Obamacare raids the Medicare trust fund for its own funding and turn that lie back around.

Right Mover on April 4, 2012 at 3:36 PM

He’s been doing that for the past couple of years now. That “clear, comprehensible language” reaches about ~25% of the populace that spends some time on conservative blogs and I am being generous with the number IMO. The rest of the general populace is roughly 50% who do not pay federal (and state) taxes and could not care less what Ryan or anyone else “explains” as long as their welfare checks clear and food stamps are accepted in nearby lottery places. Add to that uber liberals who vote for dead democrats and it really doesn’t matter what Ryan articulates, nor how. Huge mistake everyone on the right is making when the numbers state us right in the face. Reality bites.

riddick on April 4, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Newsflash to lib4life:

It is impossible to represent America with a combination of any two people. Such is the greatness of our nation. If Congress itself were to be apportioned based on America’s demographics, 535 seats would still be insufficient to represent it.

BKennedy on April 4, 2012 at 4:24 PM

The only downside of Paul Ryan as Veep is you lose Paul Ryan as head of Budget Committee.

BKennedy on April 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM

That won’t work with Ryan. Maybe with someone like Newt who always sounds PO’d even when he’s smiling. But Ryan’s got that unflappable mirth and likeability about him. He’s young, telegenic, and looks too much like Topher Grace for the drive-bys to demonize him effectively as an evil granny killer.

Doughboy on April 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I notice that Ryan has a tendency to smile wider when he’s challenged. It’s a great diffuser. “Unflappable mirth” works well at describing his demeanor.

lucyvanpelt on April 4, 2012 at 4:27 PM

There has to be diversity on the ticket.

Romney and Ryan are NOT a true representation of America

liberal4life on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM

diversity = affirmative action

been there, done that, epic fail

jazzuscounty on April 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

The man gets numbers that’s for sure. I mean, I’m pretty sure he knows math.

Still rooting for Allen West though.

Yakko77 on April 4, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Unbelievable. Please, give it a rest. Ryan would be a great VP choice. Obama is the enemy. Period. Enough already.

Right Mover on April 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Well I say we should get rid of Romney and replace him with Pelosi or Reid. Instead of Paul Ryan, maybe we could get Hillary Clinton to be VP. Because, we all know it is about only getting rid of Obama. Replacing him with someone similar is still better than leaving him in office.

astonerii on April 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM

The man gets numbers that’s for sure. I mean, I’m pretty sure he knows math.

Still rooting for Allen West though.

Yakko77 on April 4, 2012 at 4:29 PM

I got a cockatiel that can count to 15, has no idea what the words he is saying mean.

Paul Ryan puts plenty of numbers out there, and they seem to look good to him. Like balancing the budget hypothetically sometime after the sun burns out. But hey, it is somewhat better than Obama.

astonerii on April 4, 2012 at 4:33 PM

The only downside of Paul Ryan as Veep is you lose Paul Ryan as head of Budget Committee.

BKennedy

Yes, but at the same time, we would gain VP Ryan presiding over the Senate, where he just might cast the deciding vote on close-run, hard-fought battles, as the budget battle no doubt will be.

ugottabekiddingme on April 4, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Well I say we should get rid of Romney and replace him with Pelosi or Reid. Instead of Paul Ryan, maybe we could get Hillary Clinton to be VP. Because, we all know it is about only getting rid of Obama. Replacing him with someone similar is still better than leaving him in office.

astonerii on April 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Except that’s not the ticket under discussion.

just take your ball and go already.

kjl291 on April 4, 2012 at 4:40 PM

How can you possibly claim that Ryan has a fiscally liberal voting record? Because he voted for TARP, which has been explained over and over again. When he was a backbencher he supported the Republican president, which is what you have to do as a backbencher, whether you like it or not. Had he not the same people saying he’s a RINO would have impaled him for being a traitor to Bush. He’s the first Republican to seriously offer a reform plan to Medicare because he can see the disaster that’s heading our way.

cpaulus on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

You must’ve forgot about his vote on auto-bailouts and taxing of AIG bonuses.

Notorious GOP on April 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM

ptcamn on April 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I agree, there are no perfect candidates. But how can the HotAir establishment ignore his his awful votes on auto bailouts, TARP, and bonuses? I know they can’t be this dense.

or can they?

Notorious GOP on April 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Love it. It’s about the economy, and Ryan is the expert. It shows they are in it to win it.

Althouse saw them in Madison together, and thought they were very good.

PattyJ on April 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

I think Ryan would be a tremendous choice from a purely meritorious POV. He can be POTUS right away if called upon. He may not be the best pick politically, but perhaps Mitt doesn’t need that kind of help anyway.

MJBrutus on April 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Love it. It’s about the economy, and Ryan is the expert. It shows they are in it to win it.

Althouse saw them in Madison together, and thought they were very good.

PattyJ on April 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Another brainwashed victim.

Dante on April 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

How can you possibly claim that Ryan has a fiscally liberal voting record?

cpaulus on April 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Because he has one.

Dante on April 4, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Love it. It’s about the economy, and Ryan is the expert. It shows they are in it to win it.

Althouse saw them in Madison together, and thought they were very good.

PattyJ on April 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Yeah, but Althouse right now is all “Hey Barack. Do a better job of lying to me for the 7 months by again convincing me you are moderate ‘n stuff and you can have my flower vote again.”

kjl291 on April 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Hmmmm….I was starting to feel slightly optimistic, however apparently I was unaware that ROMNEY SUCKS and RYAN SUCKS.

I guess I will give up now, and take my ball and go home.

kjl291 on April 4, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz…

Ryan does nothing for Romney’s problems. Here’s a hint: Romney’s problems aren’t budgetary in nature.

Stoic Patriot on April 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Put Ryan on the ticket w/Mitt and bring it on. I only hope that Mitt has the balls to explain Ryan’s budget properly, because I don’t think he has.

HiJack on April 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

If Ryan knows what good for him he will not get on that sinking ship.

KBird on April 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Paul Ryan is a Nice Guy™, but with his ability to debate and explain, this would be a good synergy with Mittens in a number of ways–Moderate/Conservative, Older/Younger, Good Cop/Bad Cop (Ryan could go on the attack easier, leaving Mitt to be the squeaky clean guy).

A440Hz on April 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Does anyone (ostensibly) on our side have a problem with Ryan other than Ron Paul supporters?

Kataklysmic on April 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

No, it’s just that he’s the fiscal and financial hawk, and he’s very good at it. Why on that same speech he didn’t mention that the US has not had a budget in three years?

ProudPalinFan on April 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

The only kind of ‘diversity’ we need on the Republican ticket is electoral college diversity. Let Romney choose a running mate that can help him win by delivering key bellwether states that he might not win by himself. Winning is everything.

slickwillie2001 on April 4, 2012 at 6:30 PM

As a southerner, the thought of two Yankees on the same ticket doesn’t excite me. As an American, I’d pull the lever for a Grant/Sherman ticket if it would rid this country of Obama.

TxAnn56 on April 4, 2012 at 6:31 PM

I would much rather prefer a pit bull like Newt, but Ryan would not be bad choice. After all he has gone through with the current regime I’m sure he could get as nasty as necessary.

DDay on April 4, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I would much rather prefer a pit bull like Newt, but Ryan would not be bad choice. After all he has gone through with the current regime I’m sure he could get as nasty as necessary.

DDay on April 4, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Pitbulls and nastiness are absolutely horrible under any circumstances.

Real conservatives care about substance, and want someone who is not going to give in to liberalism. Squishy moderates care about tone, and want someone non-threatening and friendly.

And, surprise surprise, when we put up a conservative guy with a friendly demeanor, we won in two back-to-back landslide elections.

Gingrich, however articulate he may sometimes be, comes across nasty, and has not impressed even the Republican primary electorate. Nor, for that matter, has Santorum. The only reason they even got consideration in the first place is because Romney’s liberal record is particularly egregious. Substantively, however, all 3 of these candidates are pretty awful.

No one is impressed by the headline “Candidate calls rival candidate something bad”. Not even if it’s completely true. The reason is that it is 100% transparent that the candidate is insulting the other guy in order to get votes. It is presumptuous for the candidate to pass judgement on his rival – that evaluation is reserved for the voters.

You’ll notice Ryan doesn’t generally talk about what Obama is. Instead, he talks about what the President does. It’s a subtle distinction, but it’s important. No one’s mind is changed by “Obama’s a socialist”. Plenty of minds can be changed by “Obama has socialized 1/6 of our economy. This is a bad thing because…” and then explain why socialism is bad (yes, sadly, the electorate does need a reminder).

RINO in Name Only on April 4, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Ryan is terrific. He completely humiliated Obama during his silly broadcasted ObamaCare board meeting. Obama never made that mistake again- transparency, hearing both sides, etc.

Chuck Schick on April 4, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Yep, that was the time little Bammie gave Paul Ryan his famous finger.

slickwillie2001 on April 4, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Paul Ryan stands head and shoulders above all of his colleagues. He is the one person in our national government who has demonstrated leadership on the biggest issues facing our nation (Medicare, Social Security, and discretionary spending reform) by presenting a concrete plan for reform. Furthermore, Obama and the Democrats cannot resist attack Ryan’s Medicare reforms.

While Ryan may initially seem like a liability for the ticket, a relentless focus on Ryan’s reforms by Obama would also mean the electorate would be keenly focused on the size of the federal deficit on Election Day. By focusing his general election criticisms of Obama on the growth of the deficit, Romney can be sure that his electoral fortunes will not entirely rise and fall with unemployment rate. Unemployment may or may not go down or up, but the deficit will still be exploding on Obama’s watch on November 2, 2012. Of that much we can be sure.

Lawdawg86 on April 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM

If Mitt wins the primaries, it will be Gov. McDonnell.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Two Governors? No way.
Rubio says absolutely not, and he’s probably not ready anyway.
No women. Nightmares of 1984 and 2008.
At first glance I like Ryan. Smart, well-spoken and he’s a frontal assault of Obamanomics. Plus he could flip Wisconsin.

jan3 on April 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I agree that this is a fight Romney should want, but he doesn’t because it’s a fight Romney could never win. Anyone who has researched Sketchy’s history as Mass. Governor KNOWS that Mittens LOVES socialist programs so he could never muster BELIEVABLE outrage against any of them.

Should Ryan run with the liberal it will end his political career once the GOP elitists start the rumors of how he dragged Mittens down. Just ask Sarah if you want to know how that works today.

DannoJyd on April 4, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I think Paul Ryan is a great choice for VP. He is the best person to take his economic plan to the people. He is very good at explaining what we are facing and what his ideas are to meet the challenge. He is the model of self control. I don’t think his wonkiness hurts him either. Unlike Obama he has substance he isn’t an empty suit with a sweet pantleg crease. And he’s good looking. It might help with the ladies. Not that we are shallow like that or anything. *wink* And he has been all over the channels even in enemy territory and he does well no matter who he talking to.

magicbeans on April 4, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I like Paul Ryan……..but what would he do for the ticket as far as balance?

I’d rather he take Boehners’ job.

Maybe that’s why they want him out of the House.

He’d be great debating Joe Biden I think but lets’ face the demographic realities Romney would need someone NOT LIKE HIMSELF and that’s either Rubio or Martinez or god help us Christ Christie.

PappyD61 on April 4, 2012 at 8:11 PM

If Mitt wins the primaries, it will be Gov. McDonnell.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Who is McDonnell?

RINO?

True Con?

1/2 and 1/2?

PappyD61 on April 4, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I like Paul Ryan, despite his votes for TARP and the bailouts, but he’s not qualified for the top spots. He’s only been in the House and has no executive leadership experience.

I’d much rather see Allen West as VP. Although he’s a bit new to national politics, he has extensive executive experience as a lieutenant colonel in the military (serving in Iraq and Afghanistan) as well as a good grasp of history and foreign policy.

He would be a great compliment to Romney and an inspiring candidate.

Common Sense on April 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Wait…the Romney supporters have said that only a Governor is capable of being a President…never a member of congress, what has happened to them? Etch-a-sketch???

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

I think Ryan gives Mitt economic cred…Mitt has never been involved with federal budgets, a lot with private, selling assets and creating long term debt, that kind of stuff that does not happen in national budgets.
The comments of “he is an economic genius because he made a lot of money” is foolish…obviously or Thomas Sowell would have bought into Mitt, and he didn’t.
Mitt needs Ryan, but more important the country needs Ryan, this is way over Mitt’s head, and at least he may recognize it…good for him.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

I like the economic wonkiness of it all. That said, a really great foreign policy expert like Condi Rice wouldn’t be bad. Obama doesn’t have any high ground to defend on foreign policy though, so I think Romney could get away with a budget nerd if that’s the way he wanted to go. Democrats are already in a tizzy over Ryan’s proposals. But then again, they’re in a tizzy all the time so…

Murf76 on April 4, 2012 at 9:21 PM

I think Ryan gives Mitt economic cred…Mitt has never been involved with federal budgets, a lot with private, selling assets and creating long term debt, that kind of stuff that does not happen in national budgets.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Mitt has never not balanced a budget in his entire life. You have to at least give that to him.

Swerve22 on April 4, 2012 at 9:22 PM

No political debate will ever be so fun as to watch Ryan destroy Biden. Popcorn, please.

Of course the media, knowing this, will create the longest series of soft-ball debate questions in history just so Biden isn’t exposed for the fool he is. Ryan won’t be able to flex his muscles with the idiot questions they put out there.

Brian Williams: Vice President Biden, what color is the sky?

Biden: Blue

Brian Williams: Would you like to respond to that, Mr. Ryan?

Paul Ryan: Are you serious?

Brian Williams: Score one for The Vice President!

goflyers on April 4, 2012 at 10:00 PM

communist4life just graduated useful idiot basic training, so a little slack is in order I believe.

darwin on April 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

I’m surprised that Clown College has correspondence courses.

Myron Falwell on April 5, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Thing about this, it would relate Ryan with Palin (McCain/Palin). Not something Ryan wants. As much as I’d love Ryan as VP, I wouldn’t blame him if he refuses. Because Romney is as close to McCain as we could get.

Coronagold on April 5, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I have always been on the “Rubio for Veep” bandwagon BUT I must say, Paul Ryan is as impressive as all heck. Either one would be excellent. I think Rubio may tend to get more hispanics on board but Ryan has his “budget speak” down to a science. Romney in charge of freeing up the economy – Ryan in charge of the budget and deficit reduction – WHAT A WINNER !!!!! Would love to see Ryan debate bumbling Biden – poor Joe wouldn’t even know what hit him!
Perhaps Ryan as OMB, Rubio as Veep – darn it – can’t make up my mind!

BabysCatz on April 5, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Thing about this, it would relate Ryan with Palin (McCain/Palin). Not something Ryan wants. As much as I’d love Ryan as VP, I wouldn’t blame him if he refuses. Because Romney is as close to McCain as we could get.

Coronagold on April 5, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I get the comparisons to Dole, kinda, but McCain? Why do I get the feeling that you weren’t saying that 4 years ago? McCain comes from one of the most conservative states in the Union, and was considered for Kerry’s VP slot. Romney is a moderate Republican from a state that forced him to be, you can say that lacks conviction on conservative policy and I’d actually agree, but Romney is light years better than Mccain. For one, Romney understand economics and knows how to run an organized campaign, especially compared to those who ran against him.

Mitt’s not perfect, but he’s what we have. Adding Ryan to the ticket will force him to defend the Ryan budget. He’s a consultant, once they have the plan they execute it, hopefully Ryan can be the heart and soul and give Romney something to run for and inspire people to.

cpaulus on April 5, 2012 at 3:00 AM

I like Paul Ryan, despite his votes for TARP and the bailouts, but he’s not qualified for the top spots. He’s only been in the House and has no executive leadership experience.

I’d much rather see Allen West as VP. Although he’s a bit new to national politics, he has extensive executive experience as a lieutenant colonel in the military (serving in Iraq and Afghanistan) as well as a good grasp of history and foreign policy.

He would be a great compliment to Romney and an inspiring candidate.

Common Sense on April 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Just a second, your problem with Ryan is that he has no executive experience so you’d rather replace him with a guy who has no executive experience and less time in the House?

cpaulus on April 5, 2012 at 3:02 AM

Much rather see Ryan as the budget guy. Can he really spearhead the budget battle as a VP?

steved95 on April 4, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Maybe Ryan could be Treasury Secretary in a Romney administration.

Steve Z on April 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM

The only question is, why would Ryan want to sacrifice his Congress career to run with Romney?..

Archivarix on April 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM

A run for the presidency in 8 years?

cheetah2 on April 5, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Wait…the Romney supporters have said that only a Governor is capable of being a President…never a member of congress, what has happened to them? Etch-a-sketch???

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

But this is for VP not president. If we insist on applying that rule to both, we can only have a Governor for VP. That would be ridiculous. The talents of the 2 running mates should complement each other not be just alike. Being VP is itself preparation for becoming president. It often happens that an incumbent VP will run for president and historically such candidates have won the presidency 4 times.

cheetah2 on April 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Paul Ryan needs to be on the ticket. If not #1, then #2.

J Baustian on April 5, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Here’s my dream ticket –

WALKER/RYAN 2012

That’s only if Walker loses the recall election, otherwise I want him to stay here in Wisconsin.

Sterling Holobyte on April 6, 2012 at 4:51 PM

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