Santorum predicts Pennsylvania win

posted at 10:25 am on April 4, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Even after Mitt Romney’s hat trick last night, Rick Santorum still has hope that he can stop the former Massachusetts governor from securing the nomination. It’s just halftime, he says, and he’s counting on Pennsylvanians to “charge out of the locker room” for a strong second half. The former Pennsylvania senator has repeatedly predicted a win in his home state, where both he and Mitt Romney campaign today:

Speaking on familiar turf, the former two-term senator from the Keystone State urged supporters to dismiss attacks from his opponents ahead of Pennsylvania’s primary later in April.

“You know me. You know how hard I work,” Santorum said. “They’ll say all the things, that I’m someone who doesn’t stand up for what I believe in. You know me.”

In recent days, Santorum has predicted he will win his home state’s contest, which has 72 delegates at stake. He also expects to push on through May, a month that holds contests in states that are more conservative. …

In an interview on Monday on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight,” Santorum acknowledged that “April would be a very tough month for us,” but he intends to compete through May and onto the convention.

“May is rich with delegates and are strong states for us — states like Texas and Arkansas and Kentucky and Indiana, West Virginia, North Carolina. Those are the states that we know we can get this back, right back to where it is right now, which is a lot closer than what Mitt Romney and the pundits are spinning,” he said.

No doubt Mitt Romney will repeat in Pennsylvania the strategy that worked so well for him against Gingrich in Florida and against Santorum in Ohio, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin. He’ll purchase expensive advertising, utilize compelling robocalls and crisscross the state himself. He has even more incentive than usual to deploy a deal-sealing barrage of negativity against Santorum. If he can sneak to victory in Pennsylvania, he’ll have made a very strong case for himself against Santorum.

Santorum is counting on his home-state advantage to help him withstand the assault. In the latest Quinnipiac University poll in Pennsylvania, Santorum leads Romney by six points. If that begins to change, though, and a loss in Pennsylvania for Santorum looks likely, Romney’s last challenger might not make it to May.


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He’ll purchase expensive advertising, utilize compelling robocalls and crisscross the state himself. He has even more incentive than usual to deploy a deal-sealing barrage of negativity against Santorum. If he can sneak to victory in Pennsylvania, he’ll have made a very strong case for himself against Santorum.

This is also HILARIOUS because apparently running ads of people’s records is known as NEGATIVE campaigning now. This has been going on since the late 1700′s…

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Bad news for Rick: PA is a closed primary.

Jon0815 on April 4, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Yep.

Santorum has been getting around 3%-4% Democrat crossover votes in other states.

tetriskid on April 4, 2012 at 11:37 AM

don’t care too much anymore. But can all the mittbots who repeatedly dissed RS because “He lost his seat in Penn. in a landslide/worst loss in history, etc., etc.” explain how this is possible?

yhxqqsn on April 4, 2012 at 11:17 AM

That’s easy, as a legislator Rick was everything he has railed against, in this campaign. A big government pseudo-conservative who voted for mandates (closed shop rules), and big entitlements (Part D).

Tater Salad on April 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Patience dear friends. In a hour Rush will tell us all how to feel about this whole thing. Then we can hear it repeated at 3P and at 6P. So we can all be on the same page tomorrow.

AYNBLAND on April 4, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Seriously. It’s hard to understand why Rush thinks Santorum still has a prayer. Ten bucks says Santorum will lose PA by at least 5. More people are paying attention and in the next few weeks the heat for Ricky to get out will get hotter- his reputation is sinking everywhere and even his “home state” will want to show him the door. Rush thinks he knows something the rest of us don’t, and it’s pretty obvious, he doesn’t.

BettyRuth on April 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 11:36 AM

5% of Santorum’s share of the vote were Democrats. He didn’t even win a majority of Democrats. I wouldn’t call that a significant amount.

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Rick has become “persona non grata” with the media at this point, even they don’t care anymore.

Tater Salad on April 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Wouldn’t Romney have a significantly stronger claim to the big-tent Republican crown if he could win an outright majority of the delegates in contested primaries?

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 11:33 AM

In a four-way race? Come on. When Rubio barely cracked 50% in the three-way Florida Senate race, that was nothing short of a miracle.

Romney now has a massive plurality of delegates, far outstripping all three of his competitors, none of whom has any realistic chance of capturing a majority themselves. It’s time to call the game.

KingGold on April 4, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Rick has one serious problem – no one likes him. The only reason he still recieves any votes is strictly the non-Romney vote, not a pro-Santorum vote.

Tater Salad on April 4, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Even if he does win Penn, is it winner take all? Is it going to make up the nearly 400 delegate difference? Is his plan to seriously hope to do everything possible to keep Romney from 1144 and then somehow he’ll get picked? Could he think of a lamer plan?

Zaggs on April 4, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Romney’s plan for getting the nomination,
1) keep winning more that 50% of the delegates.

2) get to 1144.

3) earn the nomination.

Richard’s plan for getting the nomination,
1) keep losing more that 50% of the delegates.

2) a miracle occurs.

3) have the nomination handed to him.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Consider that Santorum really believes that if Romney is our nominee, he will lose in November to Obama.

If you put yourself in Santorum’s shoes, and truly believe what I just described, wouldn’t you do everything you possibly could to prevent a loss to Obama? Wouldn’t you do everything you possibly could to nominate a more conservative candidate, EVEN IF IT’S NOT YOU?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM

I think Santorum is a good man. The problem for Rick is that too many voters myself included. Feel that Santorum would lose to 0webama and that Romney gives them the best chance of beating 0webama. That’s why he’s got 1/3 of the delegates. It’s not about liking either of them very much to be honest. If it was Rick or Mitt I’d hold my nose either way. Because an 0webama that doesn’t have to worry about getting re-elected is as dangerous as a cornered animal. I think Mitt gives us a better shot at unseating King Barry. Your defense of Rick is admirable, but please, he’s not a matryr. At this point frankly though I think he’s rapidly approaching the point where is is damaging himself more by staying in and being a whiner.

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

We’re not even officially at halftime yet. Who in America tells the underdog sports team to quit the game before halftime?

Uhm, Obama?

Santorum, by battling all the way to the convention, is actually doing what Romney promised to do in 2008. What’s wrong with that?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Fair point.

ShainS on April 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I think that Rick Santorum is a true patriot. A statesman who cares more about his country than his personal gain. I realize you don’t… you think he’s in it only for his personal gain.
ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM

I never implied, insinuated, inferred ANY of this so do not put words in my mouth. What I DID say is that he has NO WAY of winning the 1144 delegates for the reasons already stated above myself and others. He is NOT going to win NY, RI, CT, or DE the same day you say he is going to win PA (which he will not). After those States he still will NOT pick up enough delegates to reach 1144 as some are winner take all and others are proportional that most will go to Romney. So again, WHY is he still in?

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Uh, how much longer is HA going to pretend that this race isn’t over?

EddieC on April 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Preferably, they won’t pretend that this race is over until it truly is… and that would be when a candidate either:

1) Wins 1,144 pledged delegates (guaranteeing a first round win at the convention), or

2) Wins 1,144 total delegates in any round of voting at the convention.

To claim that the race is over before that is “pretending”.

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Karen, is that you? There are only 2 people that think that highly of Rick Santorum, Rick and Karen Santorum.

milcus on April 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

That is what I mean by being “strange”…how demeaning to someone who was a Senator for 12 years, and here you are supporting someone who was a Gov for 4 years, and has lost every other election he has entered.
I happen to have thought that all three of our candidates were superb, not just “the One”, that you think.
Each one has strengths, each one weakness…yes, Mitt does have weaknesses, probably would bring you to tears if you read some facts.
Now you tell me…what group, what unbiased organization has stated Mitt is a conservative, what conservative “movement” has he led…
You want your man to win…I want the best conservative man to win…and if that is Mitt, fine, but I want him to move to the right, you don’t care, you think he is perfect…so you demean people who want him to be more conservative.
I get it…you don’t care about policy, direction of the country, just that Mitt wins…I don’t have a “personal” relationship with any of the candidates, I don’t have a “burning in the bosom” for any one of them…they are just politicians, whom I want to represent my best interests, which happen to be conservative.
You don’t care…that is why their is vanilla ice cream and rocky road ice cream…you and I have different goals.
Yours is driven by personality and adoration…I want the best conservative leader…

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

This is over. Its time for Rick to get out and for conservatives to start focusing on Obama. There is no good that will come of prolonging this fight. At least Mitt is now on notice that any hedging in the general election campaign on the full-scale repeal of Obamacare will result in a conservative revolt.

Lawdawg86 on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Santorum doesn’t have to reach 1,144 pledged delegates.

All Santorum has to do, with the help of Gingrich and Paul, is to win enough delegates to keep Romney from reaching 1,144 delegates in the first round of voting at the convention. If they accomplish that, then Romney will lose some delegates after they are released, and I think Romney would be unlikely to gain more votes in subsequent rounds of voting than he had in the 1st round.

If the goal is to nominate someone more conservative than the self-described “progressive” Romney, then no one candidate has to reach 1,144… they just have keep Romney from reaching 1,144.

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Ten bucks says Santorum will lose PA by at least 5.

That seems about right. It will be pretty close but Santorum’s fading in all of his support categories and Democrats won’t be able to vote for him in PA unless they changed registration ahead of time.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM

To claim that the race is over before that is “pretending”.

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:46 AM

What do you think is the probability that Santorum wins the nomination?

EddieC on April 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I hope nobody quits and it goes to convention.

Mitt by himself is pretty boring; the race is what is engaging public interest and the more states that get to actually have a primary, the better it will be for the GOP in Nov.
Plus if he wins by actually getting 1144, rather than by default, it counters the “anointed” meme and he can say that he is the GOP voters choice.
The Mitt supporters who keep saying the others should drop out – I hope you realize that this signals fear and doesn’t help you candidate. In 2008 the Obama supporters kept screaming that Hillary should quit (even though the count was very close) and that alienated her supporters.
If you want to help Mitt get the support of the base, let him win this primary fair and square and show the base that he doesn’t shy from a fight.

votermom on April 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

All Santorum has to do, with the help of Gingrich and Paul, is to win enough delegates to keep Romney from reaching 1,144 delegates in the first round of voting at the convention.

Won’t happen. There are enough “unpledged” delegates to carry him over the top.

Your fantasy scenario isn’t going to happen and this is not neverland so no matter how hard you wish it isn’t going to happen.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Come on everyone! Let’s stop all the vetting! Get out Rick! You are hurting the GOP! Mitt Romney’s approval ratings suffer the most from all of this and we all know he is the only one who can beat Obama! A vote for Santorum is a vote for Obama!

Let us all just conveniently forget that even before Santorum became an actual contender, polls already showed that people liked Romney less the more they got to know him.

Seriously, this election has become all about how Santorum actually believes the things that his Christianity teaches. People hate him for it. Never mind that his fiscal policy is sound, he actually believes this Christian crap and doesn’t have the decency to hide it under his sleeve to pull out at only the moments when it is politically wise to do so. Romney on the other hand believes only in his own appeal to independents and doesn’t have the decency to defend his current stance for longer than a primary. He is counting on people wrinkling their noses at Santorum’s outspoken Christianity.

Santorum, you may be ridiculed day after day in HotAir comments, but I do not see your faith as a reason to attack you. I see your policy as better than Romney’s and I see that you have a will to defend it.

HotAir has become a site where the quality of comments has reached kindergarten level. Here’s to hoping preschool is not around the corner.

Vintage on April 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

If this were a basketball game, santorum is behind 60-30 with 5 minutes left-yes the game isn’t over yet,but he cannot win.

Ta111 on April 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

they just have keep Romney from reaching 1,144.

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Can you come up with a realistic scenario where Romney does NOT get to 1144?

I didn’t think so.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

All Santorum has to do, with the help of Gingrich and Paul, is to win enough delegates to keep Romney from reaching 1,144 delegates in the first round of voting at the convention. If they accomplish that, then Romney will lose some delegates after they are released, and I think Romney would be unlikely to gain more votes in subsequent rounds of voting than he had in the 1st round.

If the goal is to nominate someone more conservative than the self-described “progressive” Romney, then no one candidate has to reach 1,144… they just have keep Romney from reaching 1,144.

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Ahhh the brokered convention strategy that has been Rick’s all along because he knows he will not get enough delegates to win the nomination. Yes that will end well. I can see Rick now on the convention floor in his freshly pressed sweater vest I can almost hear the speech now from Rick…. “My fellow Republicans, I know that Mitt Romney has three times the delegates as I do. But I deserve the nomination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Breaking News! Inside sources say Santorum has major speech scheduled in Waterloo, PA…

Bradky on April 4, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Members of the RNC are granted delegate status at the convention, they vote. In 2008 there were 123 voting members of the RNC at the convention and these members are not “pledged”.

Now, do you think the Republican National Committee is going to vote for Santorum? I *really* don’t believe they will.

Consider the RNC as an extra 123 delegates for Romney.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

If this were a basketball game, santorum is behind 60-30 with 5 minutes left-yes the game isn’t over yet,but he cannot win.

Ta111 on April 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Nobody at the game would be screaming for the losing team to quit, even if they were impatiently waiting for the game to end. Everybody overestimates the utility of ending the primary process immediately.

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

So with the economy being THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE in this election, some of you here on HA would rather go with a guy that has never ran anything larger than a Senate office and very little, if any, private sector experience AS AN EXECUTIVE and has also voted for pro-union and labor laws, against right to work, NCLB law, increased federal funding of the NEA, etc OVER the guy that has a PROVEN track record in the private sector of owning his OWN BUSINESS and making himself and others successful by it and saving thousands and thousands of jobs by his leadership, saving the Olympics, and turning his State around when faced with a 3 BILLION dollar deficit? When you look at these two resumes and are trying to decide who you want to save our country from its economic demise, I will go with resume #2 EVERY TIME.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Patience dear friends. In a hour Rush will tell us all how to feel about this whole thing. Then we can hear it repeated at 3P and at 6P. So we can all be on the same page tomorrow.

AYNBLAND on April 4, 2012 at 11:06 AM

LOL!

cam2 on April 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Nobody at the game would be screaming for the losing team to quit, even if they were impatiently waiting for the game to end. Everybody overestimates the utility of ending the primary process immediately.

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

You realize he’s using an analogy. It’s not an actual basketball game. Playing out an actual basketball game to the end does not affect the outcome of the next game. Playing out the primaries to the convention will affect the general election.

EricW on April 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM

they just have keep Romney from reaching 1,144.

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Can you come up with a realistic scenario where Romney does NOT get to 1144?

I didn’t think so.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

And ITguy you think THIS is good for the party? Let’s keep OUR nominee on our side from winning the nomination so we can fight over it AGAIN in the Fall? That is ridiculous and I would think the majority on here would agree whether they backed Romney or not.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

What do you think is the probability that Santorum wins the nomination?

EddieC on April 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM

The better question is:

What do you think is the probability that Romney DOES NOT WIN the nomination?

If you think Santorum is my 1st choice for the nomination, you’re wrong. I’m looking for a ticket with 2 conservative Governors who both know how to handle the media better than Santorum does. And Rick could be rewarded with a cabinet position for his courageous fight.

Now, I can’t put a probability on that, but I do know that the worst we could do from a brokered convention (Romney still the nominee after being forced to remain “severely conservative” all the way to the convention) is still better than the best we could do from handing the nomination to Romney on a silver platter now (like he did for McCain in February 2008 when Romney broke his promise, quit the race, lied about his reasons for quitting, and “released” his delegates to McCain).

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:08 PM

When you look at these two resumes and are trying to decide who you want to save our country from its economic demise, I will go with resume #2 EVERY TIME.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

So you would choose someone who made their money by selling short term assets, for long term debt, to receive a hefty commission over someone who has worked with a federal budget for 12 years, and all of those 12 years was scored an “A” for fiscal voting, the highest ranking for those 12 years? Really? Over someone who has never worked with a federal budget?

And “saving” thousands of jobs is not what we need, we need someone to cut “thousands” of federal jobs.

Defining Mitt’s economic background, it makes it seem like he is the least likely to be chosen…which fits with Thomas Sowell’s assessment, I would say a person a bit more knowledgeable than you, or I…or Rick or Mitt.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Let’s recap. The only chance that Santorum has at this point to be the nominee is a brokered convention and even he knows it. So let’s say he somehow is able to get Romney from getting to 1144. Picture Rick Santorum on the convention floor with 1/3rd or if he’s luck even 1/2 of the delegates that Romney has. How in anyone’s mind does the nomination get handed to him? Reality check, it doesn’t! Sorry to break the bad news to you folks but even a brokered convention Rick loses. And in the meantime We use up valuable resources fighting eachother instead of 0webama. Wake up folks.

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Playing out the primaries to the convention will affect the general election.

EricW on April 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM

In a positive way.

How did it work out last time, when we effectively ended our primary on March 4th and the Democrats did not know with 100% certainty who their nominee would be until Hillary gave up her quest for a floor fight at their convention?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM

saving the Olympics,

Just to be sure…saving it with federal money, don’t ever forget that.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM

So with the economy being THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE in this election, some of you here on HA would rather go with a guy that has never ran anything larger than a Senate office and very little, if any, private sector experience AS AN EXECUTIVE

Generally speaking the ones who tend to be the most vocal on online venues tend to be the most emotional. These are, for the most part, people who are driven by feelings and not logic.

Santorum has a total of four years of private sector work experience in his entire life and that was in law practice. His primary accomplishment was working on a case that exempted the WWF from steroid testing in PA because it is entertainment and not a sport and that is the sum total of his private sector work experience. The business economy is theoretical to him. He’s never run a business, not even an ice cream truck.

Getting back to the first paragraph, probably something like 10% of the people who read these comments actually post comments if this venue is typical. So I wouldn’t take what is posted here as any valid sample of the people who read it.

MOST people want to get on with the campaign against Obama at this point and find Santorum’s behavior a bit insolent or petulant. It is potentially damaging in the fight against Obama. Coming up with some new candidate at the convention is not going to happen even if Romney doesn’t have the delegates to win it outright. Enough unpledged votes will be found to get him over the top and there are more than enough of those to do it.

This is basically just flailing by a few who can’t accept the reality. It will die off over the next few weeks. Romney will, I believe, win the nomination in May.

Had Santorum held steady on his basic demographic groups, I might be more concerned, but his support among his traditional affinity groups cratered on him yesterday. He’s losing ground among the groups that had been his strongest support.

He’s done.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:14 PM

That is what I mean by being “strange”…how demeaning to someone who was a Senator for 12 years, and here you are supporting someone who was a Gov for 4 years, and has lost every other election he has entered.
I happen to have thought that all three of our candidates were superb, not just “the One”, that you think.
Each one has strengths, each one weakness…yes, Mitt does have weaknesses, probably would bring you to tears if you read some facts.
Now you tell me…what group, what unbiased organization has stated Mitt is a conservative, what conservative “movement” has he led…
You want your man to win…I want the best conservative man to win…and if that is Mitt, fine, but I want him to move to the right, you don’t care, you think he is perfect…so you demean people who want him to be more conservative.
I get it…you don’t care about policy, direction of the country, just that Mitt wins…I don’t have a “personal” relationship with any of the candidates, I don’t have a “burning in the bosom” for any one of them…they are just politicians, whom I want to represent my best interests, which happen to be conservative.
You don’t care…that is why their is vanilla ice cream and rocky road ice cream…you and I have different goals.
Yours is driven by personality and adoration…I want the best conservative leader…

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Let’s be clear. He was an inconsequential Senator for 12 years, and one that was replaced by an even more useless Senator, who just so happens to be a lock for re-election.

And saying Romney lost to Kennedy is not a knock on him. It just shows how liberal MA is.

And I dont think Mitt is a conservative. I have never said that. He is what he is, and that is okay with me because what he is can win in November. However, if the standard is being a conservative, isn’t it funny that all the so-called conservatives that supported him in 2008 are all against him now? This depite him having moved more to the right than he should have.

And honestly, you cannot be more wrong about me not caring about the direction of the country. I care, a lot. I want a guy who will not increase my taxes (because I hate the fact that a certain portion of the time that I work goes to supporting the bums that I walk past when I get on the subway every morning and every night, and see on the subway when I have to go somewhere during the day because they are too lazy to go get a job). I want a guy who will improve the economy so that there will be opportunities for all Americans who want them. I want a guy who will protect my economic future, while making sure Iran does not get a nuclear weapon, etc..

However, with that said, I just cant get behind a guy who makes an issue out of social issues when most people simply do not care, and when in 2012 that should not be brought up at all when there is so much else to discuss.

milcus on April 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

And in the meantime We use up valuable resources fighting eachother instead of 0webama. Wake up folks.

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 12:09 PM

That is your take…how about the battle pushing whomever is the candidate to the right, giving them the strength to battle Obama even more effectively…a “rino” has not won an election since, well since, never?
Having it go to the convention won’t hurt the party, it will strengthen the ticket…although last election it was done early and that helped…right?

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

In a positive way.

How did it work out last time, when we effectively ended our primary on March 4th and the Democrats did not know with 100% certainty who their nominee would be until Hillary gave up her quest for a floor fight at their convention?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM

No party in the last 100 years that has gone to a brokered convention has won the Presidency. Can you honestly tell me that you think Santorum would be given the nomination at a brokered convention? Simple question.

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

saving it with federal money, don’t ever forget that.

Not really. He donated $1 million of his own salary, too. But more than the money was organization. He was able to take a completely disorganized group that was in shambles and reorganize it into a functioning team. And he did that at the same time as running a campaign for governor in MA.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I wanted Santorum out once it was clear it’s over, but I’m actually looking forward to him sticking around to get stomped in his home state.

Santorum defeated in his home state will make a nice trophy for Romney as he “officially” clinches the nomination. It’s a nice kickoff to the General Election.

We’ll see if Santorum has the guts to stick around, but I hope he understands his career in politics is over with a back to back loss in his home state.

BradTank on April 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Can you honestly tell me that you think Santorum would be given the nomination at a brokered convention? Simple question.

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

While I like Santorum, he’s not my first choice at a brokered convention.

If we reach a brokered convention, I think that the level of animosity between them (Paul ↔ Santorum ↔ Romney ↔ Gingrich) could be so high that none of those 4 would be able to put together a majority of delegates. Perhaps a Santorum/Gingrich coalition could, or perhaps a Romney/Paul coalition could. But if not, I could see the convention looking to two candidates who ran in 2008 but did not run in 2012. I could see a Huckabee/Palin ticket kicking Democratic butt… regardless of if that is an Obama/Biden Democratic ticket or a Clinton/? Democratic ticket.

ITguy on March 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

I wanted Santorum out once it was clear it’s over, but I’m actually looking forward to him sticking around to get stomped in his home state.

Santorum defeated in his home state will make a nice trophy for Romney as he “officially” clinches the nomination. It’s a nice kickoff to the General Election.

We’ll see if Santorum has the guts to stick around, but I hope he understands his career in politics is over with a back to back loss in his home state.

BradTank on April 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

That is the kind of comment that makes non-Romney supporters see Romney’s supporters as arrogant, condescending, obnoxious, etc.

Is that really how you want to act when you’re trying to win people over to your side?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

milcus on April 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

You see what you want to see, or what has been shown to you…his “contraceptive” speech you alluded to in your past post, happened a decade ago, at a Catholic convention…yet you hang onto it, because the media hung onto it…it worked on you.
Rick spent very little time discussing what you are focused on, in fact probably about the same time as Mitt had spent on the same issues, and now (at least the past few weeks) agrees with Rick.
As far as being “inconsequential”, I don’t know, 8,000 votes is a lot of “inconsequential”…but Mitt’s big deal was what? The father of ObamaCare, hardly something to be proud of.
See, they both have their “problems”, but Rick is by far, judged by unbiased groups like the National Taxpayers Union, the more conservative.
I respect Thomas Sowell, he is not some political hack, he has stated that Mitt would not be his economic choice, that Mitt is weak in economics…if anyone should know, it Thomas Sowell…everyone should stop, give pause, and actually try to reason why…
By far the most experienced was Newt, second is Rick, and third, despite his millions made, Mitt.
Now you may be smarter than Thomas Sowell, I am not, at least in economics (conservative style)…doesn’t meant he is always right, it just means to stop and think…maybe Mitt isn’t whom you think he is?
That may be a bit of blasphemy for many of you…but Mitt is not a God (yet), and he is not a prophet (yet), he is a politician…that is all.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

but I’m actually looking forward to him sticking around to get stomped in his home state.

At this point he does risk increasing the schadenfreude factor like that “Black Knight” character in Monty Python. He is being such a petulant pr1ck that you want to see him get hammered.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Not really…
crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

A fact, just discarded…that is the problem with Mitt supporters, any fact not supportive, does not exist…I don’t know if it’s their schooling that prevents counter arguments, or what, but it is just plain weird…
Why not….Yes, he took federal money, and used it wisely to build…..but no it’s just a flat “not really”…just plain weird…

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:29 PM

He is being such a petulant pr1ck that you want to see him get hammered.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Unbelievable…an honored 12 year Senator, fighting for conservative values…you guys are unreal, and when it comes election time, you won’t understand how un-enthusiastic the conservative are in supporting Mitt…McCain found out, too late…

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I could see a Huckabee/Palin ticket kicking Democratic butt… regardless of if that is an Obama/Biden Democratic ticket or a Clinton/? Democratic ticket.

ITguy on March 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

So, you want the nomination to be magically handed to someone who didn’t even run, has ZERO votes/delegates?

You are delusional.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 12:34 PM

So with the economy being THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE in this election, some of you here on HA would rather go with a guy that has never ran anything larger than a Senate office and very little, if any, private sector experience AS AN EXECUTIVE and has also voted for pro-union and labor laws, against right to work, NCLB law, increased federal funding of the NEA, etc OVER the guy that has a PROVEN track record in the private sector of owning his OWN BUSINESS and making himself and others successful by it and saving thousands and thousands of jobs by his leadership, saving the Olympics, and turning his State around when faced with a 3 BILLION dollar deficit? When you look at these two resumes and are trying to decide who you want to save our country from its economic demise, I will go with resume #2 EVERY TIME.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Look at the major issues facing our country today and tell ME who is best to lead us through these dark times:

-Porn
-Satan
-Etch-a-Sketch toys
-Condoms
-The Spanish language
-Gay marriage

Hint: Not Mitt Romney

1984 in real life on April 4, 2012 at 12:34 PM

That is the kind of comment that makes non-Romney supporters see Romney’s supporters as arrogant, condescending, obnoxious, etc.

Is that really how you want to act when you’re trying to win people over to your side?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Who says I’m trying to win you over?

BradTank on April 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM

While I like Santorum, he’s not my first choice at a brokered convention.

If we reach a brokered convention, I think that the level of animosity between them (Paul ↔ Santorum ↔ Romney ↔ Gingrich) could be so high that none of those 4 would be able to put together a majority of delegates. Perhaps a Santorum/Gingrich coalition could, or perhaps a Romney/Paul coalition could. But if not, I could see the convention looking to two candidates who ran in 2008 but did not run in 2012. I could see a Huckabee/Palin ticket kicking Democratic butt… regardless of if that is an Obama/Biden Democratic ticket or a Clinton/? Democratic ticket.

ITguy on March 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM
ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM

So we would give it to Santorum Gingrich whose delegates together don’t equal Mitt’s? Or Huck/Palin who couldn’t even be bothered to run during the primaries who hasn’t even said they’d be willing to throw their hat in the ring if it came to that. But let’s say that happenss. So those two hypotheticals get the nod and then have essentially 2 months to fund raise, put together a national campaign to take on a guy who is very well funded with the media in his back pocket. Yea, that will end well. The party would be such a fractured mess by then it would guarantee 0webama 2.0. We can’t survive another term of King Barry.

Minnfidel on April 4, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Just watched Romney’s comments to the American Society of News Editors and was pretty impressed. One interesting thing, at the end he was asked about confidential sources and their role. Romney was refreshingly honest. He didn’t try to make up some interesting sounding bull. He also revealed his management style, too. He basically said that even if everyone around him was in favor of the position of the News Editors, he would seek out someone who was vehemently opposed to it in order to hear their argument. He wants to hear both sides and make a decision based on the pros and the cons. Most importantly, he didn’t feed them a line of bull and after the end of the Q&A, the mood of the editors seemed to be very cordial toward Romney.

He looked more like an executive and less like a politician.

If you have a chance to watch it if the video gets posted somewhere, I would recommend watching it. I think he did a pretty good job and we might see the MSM warming up a little to the Republican brand.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Ex-Senator Sweater Vest needs to go away now. All he will do is hurt the party before he eventually wakes up and realizes he cannot win.

The Opinionator on April 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM

an honored 12 year Senator, fighting for conservative values

He is NOT fighting for “conservative” values.

Do YOU think that the notion that the people have no right to privacy from the federal government is a conservative political value?

Do YOU think that the notion that the federal government has unlimited power over the individual is a conservative political value?

Do YOU think that the notion that the states have all rights except those explicitly prohibited by the Constitution being WRONG is a conservative political value?

The man has conservative SOCIAL values, but his POLITICAL values are not conservative. Santorum is a conservative Democrat wearing a Republican suit and if the Democrat party changed their positions on abortion, he would switch parties in a heartbeat. His politics and his vision of the role of government is more along the lines of the Democrats.

He is a statist with conservative social values.

I can’t vote for the man.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Nobody at the game would be screaming for the losing team to quit, even if they were impatiently waiting for the game to end. Everybody overestimates the utility of ending the primary process immediately.

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM

They would if they thought it mean defeating Obama.
This isn’t about Rick’s losing team staying on to the bitter end. This isn’t about you and it’s not about Rick, this is about saving the nation, snap out of it.
Oh look a unicorn see if you can catch it!

Buttercup on April 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM

We’ve never had the stones to put up someone who’s not afraid to tell them, “Screw you, moderates! Vote for me!”

EricW on April 4, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Um, yes we did. 1964. And I liked Barry Goldwater, especially in his later years, when he became a warm, fuzzy libertarian. But in 1964, his campaign theme was pretty much what you just said.

HTL on April 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Wow. Good for you, Rick.

John the Libertarian on April 4, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Who says I’m trying to win you over?

BradTank on April 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM

That is why you are not a spokesperson for Mitt…if you don’t think that conservatives are important to his election, than you are a fool.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:56 PM

How did it work out last time, when we effectively ended our primary on March 4th and the Democrats did not know with 100% certainty who their nominee would be until Hillary gave up her quest for a floor fight at their convention?

ITguy on April 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM

So the financial crisis, the unpopularity of George Bush, McCain’s poorly ran campaign, the media’s overwhelming and unsubtle support for Obama, were not the reasons why Obama one. It was the fact that it took him a long time to secure the nomination. That’s the first time I’ve heard that theory. Considering that McCain was ahead or even with Obama until the financial crisis, I’m skeptical, but please, I’d like to hear you try to explain it.

EricW on April 4, 2012 at 12:57 PM

saving the Olympics,

Just to be sure…saving it with federal money, don’t ever forget that.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Uh, you are totally wrong! i lived in SLC during this time I KNOW WHAT ROMNEY did there as all Utahns do. You are referring to the Federal dollars he received for Security and other related issues…let’s forget the FACTS that the Olympics were only taking place 4-5 months after 9-11, let’s forget the FACTS that ALL Olympics in the USA are given federal dollars, however, you are misleading on this statement that if it wasn’t for the federal dollars the Olympics would not have been successful. The FACTS of the matter are is that the federal dollars were on its way BEFORE Romney and it was the mismanagement and the theft by those leading the SLOC that led to Romney coming in and fixing and SAVING the Olympics because of HIS LEADERSHIP and CUTTING back on many useless spending projects. So it was BECAUSE of ROMNEY and NOT federal dollars that saved the Olympics. THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

This is why he was ALSO recruited to return back to Mass. to SAVE their State from a fiscal disaster which he did…see the pattern here.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Buttercup on April 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM

And you think that Mitt is “weakened” by Ricks challenge?
Wait until he meets up with the Obama machine…
It would be better to embrace the challenge, and not whine about someone who is fighting to win…it also helps to move Mitt towards the right, and I think most would want that.
No matter who is chosen, they will defeat Obama…Obama is a wreck this year.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I think that Rick Santorum is a true patriot. A statesman who cares more about his country than his personal gain.

…sometimes you gotta take one for the team [and vote against your professed principles].

Swerve22 on April 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

The fact that it’s news when Rick Santorum predicts a victory for himself in his home state is really all we need to know about how the campaign is going.

Jeff A on April 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Um, yes we did. 1964. And I liked Barry Goldwater, especially in his later years, when he became a warm, fuzzy libertarian. But in 1964, his campaign theme was pretty much what you just said.

HTL on April 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM

I was being facetious, but Goldwater is hardly a good example to refute what I actually meant.

EricW on April 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Pennsylvania will be Santorum’s last stand, last stand, last stand…but he’ll try to bask in Romeny’s spotlight as long as possible, even though the light hitting him is indirect…

Oracleforhire on April 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM

In case you are not familiar with the situation in PA, let me enlighten all of you experts. PA has direct election of it’s delegates. They are unpledged to any candidate. You must vote separately for these delegates as well as voting in the beauty contest. In most cases, these delegates have been chosen to run by party leaders in each congressional district. The names are usually well known to the public. What is not known is who these delegates actually support and the candidates don’t bother telling you because they aren’t certain either. Romney will win the majority of delegates even if Santorum actually wins the popular vote. I can’t understand why Santorum thinks PA can help him. If he wins there, people will say well, it’s his home state, he should win there. Gingrich and Romney both won their home states handily. However, if he loses, his entire future political career is over. He should endorse Romney the week before the PA primary and accept Romney as the candidate. Romney has earned it. As for the General election, please note that Romney has won in all the same areas that tipped the election to Obama last time. If the rural social conservatives hold on and show up and vote, Romney is going to win this thing by peeling off all these economic conservatives who took a chance with Obama the last time. Expect to see big numbers for Romney in all the suburban areas around the major cities cutting the heart out of Obama’s victory margin the last time. This is why Obama and the Democrats are running around pushing this women thing that Santorum stirred up. They want these suburban women to vote on social issues. I don’t think in the end they will-economics trumps everything.

jake22 on April 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Through all of your rantings and ravings…did he take federal dollars? That was the issue, not why, or how much, or what it was used for…but that he went and asked for federal dollars, just like he asked for federal dollars for his RomneyCare.
You may know the exact details, and accounting, but I doubt it, you are a person who is personally (probably Mormon) invested in his election…I am not personally invested in any politician, by definitions they are not personally invested in me either…
All my posts are, put away your emotions, relax, and see that Mitt is not “perfect”, he is a man who has made mistakes, he just can’t admit them…but it doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
I understand you want him to be “pure”, and that is good, I would think all candidates would love to have people like you as their supporters.
But you also need rational people to point out weaknesses and try to shore up those weaknesses…you (no offense) are useless for that, you are a great and valuable cheerleader for Mitt, but it doesn’t help the conservative cause.
If Rick was leading, I would be pushing him to be more conservative, and give up on this Union stuff…and other items.
But Mitt is the front runner, and I want him to be more conservative…you think he is perfect.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Brokered convention = ignore the will of the people, render millions of votes (voices) meaningless and let a select # of establishment types choose the ticket all because a minority of people are upset because their candidate did not win or didn’t even bother to run.
Sore/Loserman 2012

Buttercup on April 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM

If you have a chance to watch it if the video gets posted somewhere, I would recommend watching it. I think he did a pretty good job and we might see the MSM warming up a little to the Republican brand.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I just watched it as well out here on AFN and it was excellent! I agree that even the press applauded him on several lines of his speech. He went right after Obama like he has been ALL the time despite what some people here on HA blindly do not see or WANT to see from Romney.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Romney is going to win this thing by peeling off all these economic conservatives who took a chance with Obama the last time.

He is also going to peel off the center Democrats, the Clinton Democrats who are not all that happy with Obama right now and are looking for an alternative who doesn’t scare the bejezuz out of them.

Romney will be huge with the Independents and the center Democrats.

Romney can win this thing for the Republicans.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM

This is why Obama and the Democrats are running around pushing this women thing that Santorum stirred up. They want these suburban women to vote on social issues. I don’t think in the end they will-economics trumps everything.

jake22 on April 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM

See, it was so easy for them…he didn’t “stir it up” it was stirred up from a decade old speech to a Catholic organization…sheesh, you guys are so easy to manipulate.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM

PA has direct election of it’s delegates.

And there is that. The popular vote in PA has no bearing on delegate allocation.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Romney can win this thing for the Republicans.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Any of the candidates could win…but we, or at least some of us, want a conservative, not just a “Republican”…this time we can get what we want because Obama is so weak…but then you are happy with a liberal Republican…

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Look at the major issues facing our country today and tell ME who is best to lead us through these dark times:

-Porn
-Satan
-Etch-a-Sketch toys
-Condoms
-The Spanish language
-Gay marriage

Hint: Not Mitt Romney

1984 in real life on April 4, 2012 at 12:34 PM

1984…so these are THE MOST pressing issues to you?

you also must have not looked at Romney’s record to say what you did. Romney LED the country AGAINST Gay Marriage in 2004! He testified before the Senate then and requested the Fed. Govt to NOT allow this to go through or MA would become the open door for Gay marriage…of course his liberal Legislature vetoed his votes. Also Romney voted for English immersion, etc etc

Check your facts on Romney. Again the Not-Romney’s still flailing away at misconstruing Romney’s record as if it matters now.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Sigh. I thought the tone of the comments were pretty civil and the discussion pretty engaging when I left for lunch. I see it devolved pretty quickly.

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Any of the candidates could win

I disagree. The Clinton Democrats will never vote for Gingrich and libertarians who make up a lot of the Independents won’t vote for Santorum and neither will center dems.

Santorum consistently polls worse than Romney against Obama nationally.

crosspatch on April 4, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Buttercup on April 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM

And you think that Mitt is “weakened” by Ricks challenge?
Wait until he meets up with the Obama machine…
It would be better to embrace the challenge, and not whine about someone who is fighting to win…it also helps to move Mitt towards the right, and I think most would want that.
No matter who is chosen, they will defeat Obama…Obama is a wreck this year.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

This is not what Buttercup and others are saying.

Here is an example for you and others. Picture a burning fire with each branch (voter) on fire and there is a charging bear (Obama) coming at you. What you and others are saying is let’s keep these burning branches separate rather than joined together where they will burn much brighter and hotter to ward off the charging bear. While Santorum is still in the campaign the branches (we the voters) remain separated and lose focus on the charging bear (Obama). By waiting till a convention the fire will have died down and will be useless against the Bear and thus our death.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Who says I’m trying to win you over?

BradTank on April 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM

There are several posters here that try and repeatedly make that arguement- “Well, if this is how Romney supporters are, then I don’t want to be one”. It’s kind of sad, it’s like they think their vote is for sale or that it’s someone else’s job to convince them to vote Romney. You get two choices: Vote Romney or vote Obama. And staying home is the same as voting Obama.

BettyRuth on April 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM

you think he is perfect.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM

R2B…you have always been delusional. I have read your posts for quite awhile and you try to play ALL candidates and not take a side with any of them because as you have said you are not FOR any one person. You are what most of us call a moderate, a fence sitter, etc…anyone who has followed my postings knows I do not “rant and rave” as you stated.

i disproved your point that you were attempting to claim the success of the Olympics were based off of federal dollars and they were not. The success was based off of Romney’s leadership plain and simple. Almost everyone, even libs, recognize this fact.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Ummmmmokay….how about steel sharpens steel?
Or to use your weird analogy…if only one branch was burning, it wouldn’t be enough to fend off the bear, you need several burning branches coming together…which is the convention.
So we do have to wait for the convention, where we can all come together and fend off the charging bear…good Lord, I feel ridiculous using your analogy.
Oh, wait, you think that our interest will wain in the coming months, and we won’t be focused on the “bear”…I feel pretty secure that won’t happen.
How about, and find a tool, called conservatism, that we can club the bear over the head with…or use what Mitt and McCain used last time, some honey and try to tame the bear into being their friend…

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM

R2B…you have always been delusional. I have read your posts for quite awhile and you try to play ALL candidates and not take a side with any of them because as you have said you are not FOR any one person. You are what most of us call a moderate, a fence sitter, etc…anyone who has followed my postings knows I do not “rant and rave” as you stated.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Then you know that when McCain was finally chosen, I championed him as much as any other…and worked on his campaign here in NC…as I did heavily for Illario Pantano.
A fence sitter or moderate, is a strange definition of someone so adamant about choosing the most conservative candidate…I picture a moderate as someone who accepts whatever is given them, I think you fit the description better…Mitt is perfect, I don’t think so, I want him more conservative…and that make me moderate??? Or delusional??
And of course, true to form, you start off calling a person who disagrees with you as “delusional”…
Thanks for playing…but Mitt is not the perfect candidate, just wait until the “game” really begins, and his “mistakes” are truly exposed, and how you and the others will be begging for us “delusional” conservatives to respect and support someone, after trying to destroy us and humiliate us…all we want is for Mitt to be more conservative..you are in for a rude awakening…just one word, remember “Bechtel”, and you will see how vicious the liberals press can be.

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:45 PM

If any candidate that did not get the most votes comes out of the convention as the nominee there will be mass disenfranchisement of various sub-groups who don’t think their voice was heard. On top of that we start the “vetting” and “steel sharpening steel” process all over with likely a new candidate with no infrastructure, no fundraising, skeletons still in the closet, etc. etc.

Not the way to go. Not this election, not ever.

Swerve22 on April 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:45 PM

haha Again I NEVER called him or think that he is perfect…nice try though.

Also my analogy works because the burning branch is THE voter. The voters are not going to want to wait or have time to wait till the convention while the BEAR is upon us and attacking us. We need ALL the voters to now coalesce as it is obvious to ALMOST ALL within the party that Santorum is NOT going to be the nominee it will be Romney.

I said you are a moderate because you do not come out and pick a candidate like 95% of conservatives have already…you like to come on here and just nitpick at what everyone else says about their candidate.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 1:55 PM

There are several posters here that try and repeatedly make that arguement- “Well, if this is how Romney supporters are, then I don’t want to be one”. It’s kind of sad, it’s like they think their vote is for sale or that it’s someone else’s job to convince them to vote Romney. You get two choices: Vote Romney or vote Obama. And staying home is the same as voting Obama.

Exactly, they want people to BEG for forgiveness that Romney won.

They want to whine until November how Romney can’t win because he’s just like Obama and they’re going to sit out the election.

I’d be fine if this wing of the Party left, maybe it would stop the GOP from nominating dingbats like Sharon Angle and Christine O’Donnell. Chasing after the 1% of delusional activists while chasing away independent voters that actually decide elections.

Either Obama or Romney is going to be President, I really don’t think it’s hard to pick between center-right and hard left, but if it is, there’s the door.

BradTank on April 4, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Thanks for playing…but Mitt is not the perfect candidate,

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Why do ABRtards always go for this stupidity?

Mitt isn’t perfect. He is just the best candidate for President in the race.

He is going to be the nominee.

Deal with it.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM

It’s very telling how all one has to do with the accusations and insults being thrown around at Rick Santorum is change the name to Mitt Romney and it becomes even more apropo. Plus the Romney supporters seem to be getting a bit testier and more desperate that they can’t close the deal and aren’t even close at this point. And when Rick wins in PA and could wipe out the next batch of upcoming states, the Romnulans will explode! It’s kind of fun to watch if it wasn’t so pathetic. They can’t even positively promote their candidate and give us a reason to vote for him except by insulting and trying to destroy Rick Santorum. Very democrat of them.

mozalf on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM

mozalf on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Mo…I have posted on here numerous times WHY to vote FOR Romney but I am fine if you vote AGAINST Obama because that works for both of OUR interests.

This year’s election also cannot be compared to 2008 or even before because remember we changed the way we elect our nominee this year. So just like we discussed this about a month ago it has NOTHING to do with Romney NOT being able to close the deal but the way the RNC changed the way one accumulates delegates this election.

One other point. let’s say RS wins PA, which other state on that day will RS win out of NY, DE, CT, and RI? Again this puts Romney closer and RS has NO WAY of getting 1144 delegates only spoiling Romney from getting it and therein lies the problem for RS because people will NOT look upon RS kindly for doing this after MILLIONS have voted.

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Rick can stay in as long as he wants. Unfortunately for him, his contributions will soon be reduced to a trickle since his donors surely realize the race is over. With no resources, Rick will be able to do little but watch as his slight lead in PA evaporates over the next 3 weeks and Rick-friendly states voting in May move from “leaning Santorum” to toss-up.

EddieC on April 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

g2825m on April 4, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Sorry, but I did not become a republican to have the option to either vote for a democrat or a republican that’s most like a democrat. So you’ve obviously not made the case. And only voting against Obama isn’t a winning strategy because we tried it the last time and this time we’re not offering anything much different except that “it’s not Obama” again. So somehow the spoiler strategy doesn’t sound too bad to me. And these millions of voters you refer to may not look too kindly on Romney when all is said and done because he ain’t winning a whole lot of us over either.

mozalf on April 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM

And you think that Mitt is “weakened” by Ricks challenge?

right2bright on April 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I indicated no such thing. Where do you get this? I’m sorry you have a problem with reading comprehension, I’ll type slower.

Buttercup on April 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM

EddieC on April 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Not me. I just sent in my donation for PA because if it’s Romney in November that well dries up :-)

mozalf on April 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Why do ABRARMtards always go for this stupidity?

Mitt McCain isn’t perfect. He is just the best candidate for President in the race.

He is going to be the nominee.

Deal with it.

Gunlock Bill on April 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM

FIFY

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Should say “ABMtards” – I feel kinda dumb even writing it now.

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 3:00 PM

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Excellent! And a bad foreboding.

mozalf on April 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I was being facetious, but Goldwater is hardly a good example to refute what I actually meant.

EricW on April 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I think I was agreeing with the point you were trying to make (whether you were being facetious, sarcastic, ironic or a mix of all three is a question for the ages), citing Goldwater as the example of someone who tried it the way you described, and lost.

The only point where we were in disagreement (again, or so I thought) was that the hard line had never been tried before. “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice” resonated throughout that campaign, and did AuH2O no favors.

HTL on April 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM

After losing one “must win” contest after another, Santorum’s realistic goals have been reduced from winning the nomination, to denying Romney a winning majority of pledged delegates before the convention. If he supposes that doing this will cause the unpledged delegates to flock to his support, he is engaging in some heavy duty wishful thinking. Instead of riding a wave of momentum to a miraculous come-from-behind victory, his immediate focus is on avoiding the humiliation of a loss in his home state.
But it doesn’t matter anymore. Everywhere else, his support is starting to collapse as voters weary of the prolonged contest and move toward supporting the guy who is winning.

Confutus on April 4, 2012 at 4:20 PM

America would never elect a whiner like Santorum anyway. By continuing his futile campaign, he becomes the Huckabee of this cycle – except Huck stopped dissing McCain once the outcome was obvious. But Rick is doing us the favor of eliminating himself from future consideration, too.

Gotta love all the crying about Romney’s “negative ads.” As if Santorum wouldn’t be doing the same thing IF he had been able to raise the money! But fat chance he could ever raise that kind of money – he’s not even competent enough to make sure he met all the ballot requirements in Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, DC, and Illinois. You know, that hard stuff that even Alan Keyes was able to get done.

And people think this incompetent loser is qualified to be President? Maybe of the Sissy-boy States of America.

Adjoran on April 4, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Greg Gutfeld had a good line today. He said that Santorum is like the party guest who won’t leave, and is still sitting in your living room chatting away after everyone else has gone home and you are cleaning up around him.

HTL on April 4, 2012 at 6:31 PM

When Romney reached 1144 delegates, the ABRs’ line will be : but he did not get 1444 delegates, so that is not a victory.

galtani on April 4, 2012 at 7:56 PM

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