Obama calls the Ryan plan a “Trojan horse”

posted at 9:50 am on April 3, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The president’s own budget failed the House by a unanimous vote, while the Paul Ryan budget maneuvered through the lower chamber by a vote of 228 to 191. Yet, the president still plans to criticize the Ryan plan with searing words that don’t actually address the ideas in the budget:

In a speech the president is set to deliver on Tuesday to the Associated Press Annual Luncheon, given in front of newspaper executives, the president offers a sharp attack against the Wisconsin Republican’s budget plan.

“It’s a Trojan horse. Disguised as deficit reduction plan, it’s really an attempt to impose a radical vision on our country,” Obama is expected to say, according to excerpts released to National Journal. “It’s nothing but thinly veiled social Darwinism.”

He continues the stern attack: “It’s antithetical to our entire history as a land of opportunity and upward mobility for everyone who’s willing to work for it – a place where prosperity doesn’t trickle down from the top, but grows outward from the heart of the middle class.”

Elsewhere in the speech, he’ll sound a little more specific. He’ll say the Ryan plan guts “education and training; research and development.” He’ll chalk the debt up to “two wars, two massive tax cuts and an unprecedented financial crisis.” He’ll neglect to mention that the chief drivers of the debt have been and will continue to be unsustainable entitlement programs. Medicare spending, for example, is adding to future deficits faster than any other program spending. Even the chairmen of his own fiscal commission acknowledge that health care spending is the biggest debt threat — and that the debt is the biggest threat to the country, in general. The president will also neglect to mention his own plan for entitlement reform — because he doesn’t have one. So far, his primary deficit and debt reduction idea has been to raise taxes on the wealthy — but tax rates would have to double to pay for entitlements. Somehow, these facts never make it into the president’s speeches.

Like his speech in Osawatomie, Kan., and his State of the Union address, the president will talk about an economy that’s “built to last,” but he won’t explain how to create that economy. Just more partisan, plan-less rhetoric from the president …


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“It’s a Trojan horse. Disguised as deficit reduction plan, it’s really an attempt to impose a radical vision on our country,”

And Obama is definitely the North end of that Southbound horse.

DevilsPrinciple on April 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Prior generations wrote bad contracts, promising themselves too much in relation to what they paid. That’s not my mistake, that’s theirs, and they will pay for it.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM

You know, people. There’s hope here. There’s a neuron or two actually firing in the ernesto brain.

Now, just to convince him that you can’t fix trillion of “bad contracts” with tens of billion of taxes on the rich…nor can you fix it by going full retard with the very policies that are the “bad contracts.”

MNHawk on April 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Happy Nomad on April 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Most of that 50% is made up of the same elderly people who depend on SS and Medicare…

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Fluke. Trojan. Horse.

Assembly required.

faraway on April 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

The whole 2008 Obama campaign was a trojan horse.

Oil Can on April 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Obama calls the Ryan plan a “Trojan horse”

Putting aside for a moment the sheer hypocrisy of the rhetoric that this “president” uses against his political opponents, doesn’t he ever get tired of these worn-out old cliches?

And don’t his disciples like ernesto and leftard4life ever get sick of hearing them?

UltimateBob on April 3, 2012 at 10:44 AM

On second thought, let’s not go to Obamaland, it’s a silly place.

Rusty Allen on April 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

The whole 2008 Obama campaign was a trojan horse.

Oil Can on April 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM

The Democrat candidate is always fit to fill a trojan, what else is new?

NoDonkey on April 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

ernesto has a point this is an election year- all politics all the time. Ryan is a policy wonk – he looks impressive, because he’s the tallest midget in a room full of midgets. Romney doesn’t need Ryan taint on him. Romney is already polling behind Obama, in swing states.

If I was Romney I would tell Ryan “Go away kid you bother me”

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Why do you say this?

Vince on April 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Politically for Romney’s campaign, Ryan is an albatross around Romney’s neck not an asset.

Obama got elected by being vague, and type casting McCain as Bush 2.0. It’s a mistake to play into Axelrod’s class warfare strategy. They will type cast Mitt Romney as more of the same.

It’s not going to harm Romney to stick to his own fiscal policy, his own strategy to balance the budget (Big Picture no need for specifics). Romney doesn’t need to adopt Ryan’s budget plan, which is going to be shaped into a club to beat Romney with during the general campaign. I know how republicans view Ryan’s budget plan. Independents are not republicans. Ryan’s plan, isn’t going to sell well with Independents so why should Romney handicap himself by associating with it- when he doesn’t need to?

I get that there are people who think Ryan is the best thing since sliced bread. If you are dying of thirst in the desert, and come across a mud puddle with cloudy water, that water’s going to look pretty good. Ryan sticks out, because our current batch of legislators aren’t much to write home about. Their current approval rating is 10%.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Well said Vince

At least Ryan is headed in the right direction unlike the President and his Democratic pals. They refuse to fix anything but ADD more.

Nothing bad really happened when we lost our AAA credit rating…but when that changes ALL HELL IS GOING TO BREAK LOOSE.

They continue to act like ostriches. How far off is the day of reckoning? It’s going to be a lot harder to fix when that happens.

CoffeeLover on April 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Trust me, should push come to shove, we won’t be forced to pay a tab we didn’t run up ourselves.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Trust me, yes you will, one way or another.

Do you know what currency inflation is? Better read up on it, because that is the most likely way all that debt will be dealt with. That’s assuming we avoid complete economic collapse.

There is not enough “money” out there to fund the socialist’s unsustainable federal government spending and wealth redistribution schemes. We could confiscate all of the income and wealth of the “rich” and it would not be enough. That does not even factor in the fact that doing this would heavily discount the market value of what is mostly “on paper” wealth whose value is set by the market. If you do not understand this you have no clue about how markets work and how the value of assets is determined.

The only thing we have going for us is the world’s economy is largely based on and runs on dollars and we can print more. We can print all we want and drag the whole world down with us.

However, we cannot escape from or repeal the basic fundamental laws of economics.

farsighted on April 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

We’ve taken nothing. Prior generations wrote bad contracts, promising themselves too much in relation to what they paid. That’s not my mistake, that’s theirs, and they will pay for it.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Setting aside the obvious falsehood that you’ve “taken nothing,” who do you think wrote those contracts? Social Security has been in existence for close to 80 years. Do you really believe anyone who was old enough to vote at that time is still alive? So who exactly do you want to stick with the bill?

And does it escape your attention that many of us have spent years voting for candidates who would work to reform entitlements, but we continually lose out to people like you who elect candidates who choose to ignore the problem? Finally we have somebody (Ryan) willing to stand up and get the conversation started so that real reform can take place, and you want him to sit down and shut up.

If you truly believe these social programs are so evil, then why are you not on the side of the guy who wants to fix them? The cognitive dissonance of your political positions must drive you a little crazy.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Romney is already polling behind Obama, in swing states.

If I was Romney I would tell Ryan “Go away kid you bother me”

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Why do you say this?

Vince on April 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Romney is polling behind Obowma due to a poll that overly sampled democrats. Obowma is in huge trouble, mainly due to high gasoline prices and his failure to do anything expect raise taxes on us through higher taxes on oil companies as he did with the Dodd-Frank finance bill, passed higher fees on us.

dthorny on April 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Ryan’s plan: Social Darwinism
Obama’s plan: ?

It amazes me this douche bag does nothing but criticize, and never leads on anything.

rubberneck on April 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Most of that 50% is made up of the same elderly people who depend on SS and Medicare…

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

It was all part of FDR’s plan to get as many people as possible dependent on gubbermint. Now Obama is after the middle aged and younger generations to be dependent. When your very sustenance depends on the govt, who are you ging to vote for?

Bevan on April 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Paul Ryan is at least offering a start at changing that and he faces an uphill battle. Somne say he goes too far. Some say he doesn’t go far enough. I say, it’s a start. Even Ernesto should be for this.

Vince on April 3, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Vince our political class has conditioned the American public to lower their expectations to settle for the hindmost, while they help themselves to the choice cuts.

Have you ever asked whether you deserve the poor outcomes we recieve from our political classes decision making?

I am an American, I know I deserve better than what the federal government informs me I have to settle for. When was the last time you heard any politicians speaking about American Prosperity?

As a rule they don’t because they don’t want to remind us of their f’ups – we might replace them with someone competent.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

I doubt he would have known the term ‘trojan horse’, being a tale of corrupt racist white Western history. Maybe Askelrod explained it to him.

slickwillie2001 on April 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM

We’ve taken nothing. Prior generations wrote bad contracts, promising themselves too much in relation to what they paid. That’s not my mistake, that’s theirs, and they will pay for it.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Setting aside the obvious falsehood that you’ve “taken nothing,” who do you think wrote those contracts? Social Security has been in existence for close to 80 years. Do you really believe anyone who was old enough to vote at that time is still alive? So who exactly do you want to stick with the bill?

And does it escape your attention that many of us have spent years voting for candidates who would work to reform entitlements, but we continually lose out to people like you who elect candidates who choose to ignore the problem? Finally we have somebody (Ryan) willing to stand up and get the conversation started so that real reform can take place, and you want him to sit down and shut up.

If you truly believe these social programs are so evil, then why are you not on the side of the guy who wants to fix them? The cognitive dissonance of your political positions must drive you a little crazy.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Wasn’t Obowma’s early claim he would cut the deficit in half?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jJvkkNmR_8

Another liberals broken promise to stew over.

dthorny on April 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM

A fright train through senior homes across America.

A disaster budget of enormous proportion

parasite4life on April 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Not to worry comrade, Obamacare will see that they will not live long enough to worry.

PS Obama’s budget was shot down 99 – 0 in the senate and 432 – 0 in the house. When have the dem senate even submitted a budget?
Liberalism is truely a disease.

Bevan on April 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM

It amazes me this douche bag does nothing but criticize, and never leads on anything.

rubberneck on April 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

He’s the Finger-Pointer-in-Chief.

He’s never learned to do anything else but blame others for all problems. He has no real solutions other than “tax the rich”. He can only point and blame.

farsighted on April 3, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Liberal translation:

“Radical change” –> Replacing certain disaster with something that worked for generations.

“Trojan Horse” –> What Obamacare is, so Republicans must be doing the same thing.

Socratease on April 3, 2012 at 11:00 AM

All the Liberal apples have worms. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme
Medicare is rife with corruption. It has inflated the cost of medical care for every man,woman and child in the country.
Welfare has completely destroyed the black community. It has been in complete disarray since the war on poverty started.

I could go on, but consider this one last “great” liberal right. They support the murder of the unborn.. This one evil will cause their house of cards to tumbling down soon than it would have because the left has murder over 50 million Americans since Roe v Wade, at least some of them would have been wage earners able to help support this leftist monster a while longer.

It’s just a matter of time now.

Kjeil on April 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM

The POTUS needs to look in the mirror with comments like this. Obamacare supporters told us to vote for it than you can find out whoat is in it. That is the definition of a Trojan Horse. Also the biggest impediment to small business success is government regulation.

huskerthom on April 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM

The only trojan I see, is in the Oval Office.

HomeoftheBrave on April 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

The only trojan I see, is in the Oval Office.

HomeoftheBrave on April 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Used, of course.

HomeoftheBrave on April 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Romney is polling behind Obowma due to a poll that overly sampled democrats. Obowma is in huge trouble, mainly due to high gasoline prices and his failure to do anything expect raise taxes on us through higher taxes on oil companies as he did with the Dodd-Frank finance bill, passed higher fees on us.

dthorny on April 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Romney is polling behind in swing states among women voters. Romney is not going to get elected just with the republican base.

Poll Analysis: Gallup General Election Matchup 2 April 2012.

Among Women

Barack Obama 53%
Rick Santorum 38%
Barack Obama 54%
Mitt Romney 36%

Among Independents:

Obama – 48%
Romney – 40%
Undecided – 12%

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM

We know that Obama will lie, except, perhaps when he articulates his dislike of those who do not worship him.

GaltBlvnAtty on April 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Trust me, should push come to shove, we won’t be forced to pay a tab we didn’t run up ourselves.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM

For anyone who is being born now, their lifetime taxes have already been spent. Children from this moment on are not paying for new programs but programs foistered upon them by their parents.

The average national debt per person is 49,907.25 for every man, woman and child in the United States.

The current debt is $15,596,919,199,232.89, and is going up by an average of $4 billion a day.

The sickest thing of my generation is the burden we will be leaving our children, along with killing the economy necessary to create the jobs needed to pay off our massive debt.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Social Security and Medicare were paid for by those on the programs with decades of forced payments. If we are going to cut what we can’t afford, let’s look at UNPAID government benefits to citizens.

Start with ALL government pensions and pension benefits. Knock back all pensions to the same levels as we see in private industry, and up the employee payments to similar levels. While we are at it we might as well adjust federal government salaries and benefits to more reasonable levels as seen in private industry.

Let’s also end the massive subsidies to colleges directly and via student loans. Old folks that paid into benefit plans for decades should not go starving so those with degrees in Wymyn’s Stydys can brush off their student loans after ten years work at the EPA.

We also need programs to report fraud on SS Disability, Food Stamps, Welfare, Section 8, illegals on any benefits, etc, etc. If it works for the IRS it’s good enough for these UNPAID government handouts.

slickwillie2001 on April 3, 2012 at 11:12 AM

“It’s a Trojan horse. Disguised as deficit reduction plan, it’s really an attempt to impose a radical vision on our country,” Obama is expected to say,

Does every one understand that from here on out the liberal media will preface every speech from Obama with a “pre-released” statement followed by a “and we told you so”??? It’s a double-whammy of rhetorical tripe—wash, rinse, and repeat, if necessary.

Rovin on April 3, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Shared Sacrificed – Is what politicians are telling us we have to accept. Which “1″ of our 535 federally elected employees are going to be sacrificing anything?

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Romney must make Ryan his VP, otherwise he’s going to get all of the negative from Ryan’s plan (Obama’s demagoguery) without any of the positives of it (Ryan explaining it).

cpaulus on April 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Romney must make Ryan his VP, otherwise he’s going to get all of the negative from Ryan’s plan (Obama’s demagoguery) without any of the positives of it (Ryan explaining it).

cpaulus on April 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Romney needs the Independent vote – he’s trailing Obama. Ryan is not going to get Independent’s on board the Romney train.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:18 AM

“It’s nothing but thinly veiled social Darwinism.”

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19th Century social philosophy to accompany espousal of 19th century energy technology (windmills) and 19th century transportation methods (railways). Retarded is the only adjective that comes to mind but when one listens to the Ø… it’s just irritating.
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ABØ 2012 !!!

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM

It seems that anything Zero dislikes is “radical,” doesn’t it? He uses that word every day. So much so he’s going to wear it out.

Zero how many votes did your crazed, lunatic bill garner? it was Zero, correct?

Zero in the house, Zero in the Senate. That’s quite an achievement!

dogsoldier on April 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM

I don’t see those numbers in the poll you linked, Dr. E., but what I do see looks pretty okay. Obama 49 Romney 45 in the general is within the MOE and puts Obama, the incumbent, under 50. Not a bad picture at this stage of the game.

Of course, it’s way early to start putting much stock in the polls. Obama has a strong tendency to shoot himself in the foot. He’s already got a lot of negatives, and he’s flirting with more vis a vis SCOTUS. Wait and watch.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM

The sickest thing of my generation is the burden we will be leaving our children, along with killing the economy necessary to create the jobs needed to pay off our massive debt.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM

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What are you doing to solve besides whining and prostrating yourself in “mea culpa” fashion? Are you in a position to affect the spending and taxing decisions of the Federal government?

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Romney needs the Independent vote – he’s trailing Obama. Ryan is not going to get Independent’s on board the Romney train.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:18 AM

You win the independent vote by offering something different than Obama. I know a handful of moderates to Reagan Democrats (I’m from Michigan and now live in Houston). They’ve all told me that Ryan is their favorite Republican because “At least he’s trying to do something” and has an actual reform bill that was produced with a Democrat.

Who do you have in mind for appealing to independents?

cpaulus on April 3, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Just another Saul Alinsky tactic. Accuse the other side of exactly the thing you are doing.

kirkill on April 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

dogsoldier on April 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM

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Ø and Chuckie Schumer can have a dueling pejorative superlatives contest. Ø can use “radical” and Scuhmer can use “extreme” and they’ll see who can get red-faced first!… ooooops!

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Ryan’s plan: Social Darwinism
Obama’s plan: ?

It amazes me this douche bag does nothing but criticize, and never leads on anything.

rubberneck on April 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

WoW, that is too rich for my taste coming from a tea bagger, a Palin/foxnews/right-wing talk-show/ and hotgas adherent

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM

What was it Tim Geitner said, oh yeah the administration doesn’t have a plan they just don’t like Ryan’s. Well Obama’s lack of a plan doesn’t save medicare or social security, does it? That’s the message we need to get out there. His lack of a plan lets medicare and social security go bankrupt and he is stealing $500 billion from Granny’s medicare for his unconstitutional Obamacare.

magicbeans on April 3, 2012 at 11:28 AM

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM

So typical. You have no argument so you just resort to name calling. Well sticks and stones buddy. Obama has no plan and that is a fact jack. And without a plan medicare goes bankrupt.

magicbeans on April 3, 2012 at 11:30 AM

It’s the AP lunch for Pete’s sake. Their job is to fawn over and felate Mr. Obama.

He could tell them the government is taking over Exxon Mobil today and they would raucously clap.

Marcus Traianus on April 3, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Obama has a strong tendency to shoot himself in the foot. Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM

I thought the hot mic with Medveded was a good example. I liked that Romney responded in a measured way, and he nailed Obama. Romney was out front, he didn’t do his usual wait and see what everyone else thinks about the issue. That showed leadership.

Romney’s running on the economy, there is no reason for him to give any territory to Obama. Ryan is a favorite target of the left, let them use him for target practice if they want, but Romney doesn’t need to become a target by association. The whole contraception mandate was targeting Santorum, but all the republican primary candidates were collateral damage – by association (Obama is polling higher among women under 50). It’s how the democrat’s operate they chose a target, and then they use a broad brush to paint the whole republican party with it. The only thing I heard Romney say about contraception was of course women should have access to contraception. Romney’s campaign needs to be smart, and not give the Dems an inch. Besides Romney has his own proposal for the economy, the federal budget, and reforming the tax code.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Better a Trojan horse than a Kenyan whores, uh..horse

uncle_fweddy on April 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM

So typical. You have no argument so you just resort to name calling. Well sticks and stones buddy. Obama has no plan and that is a fact jack. And without a plan medicare goes bankrupt.

magicbeans on April 3, 2012 at 11:30 AM

wow, just wow. So what was the kerfuffle at the supreme court last week all about?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Trust me, should push come to shove, we won’t be forced to pay a tab we didn’t run up ourselves.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM

…is this a joke?

thirtyandseven on April 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

You win the independent vote by offering something different than Obama. I know a handful of moderates to Reagan Democrats (I’m from Michigan and now live in Houston). They’ve all told me that Ryan is their favorite Republican because “At least he’s trying to do something” and has an actual reform bill that was produced with a Democrat.

Who do you have in mind for appealing to independents?

cpaulus on April 3, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Someone with some charisma, charm, wit, intelligence. If we are talking republican brain trust in the great lakes area, I’ll go with Rep Thaddeus McCotter.

Thaddeus McCotter debates Joe Biden, it would be like watching a baby seal being clubbed.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM

A trojan horse, huh? LOL He should know about those. I think Freud would call this projection. Interesting what you can find out about someone’s personality by what they accuse others of:-)

bluefox on April 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Trust me, should push come to shove, we won’t be forced to pay a tab we didn’t run up ourselves.

ernesto on April 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM

So who is going to pay the tab?

Are you going to pay the tab by robbing from the Rich?

Do you really expect to have any vestiges of Liberty afterwards?

“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.” Thomas Jefferson

Chip on April 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Obama’s “plan” is a “Trojan Unicorn”.

Open it up and out flies “free!” contraceptives and rainbows followed by the smoldering remains of our society and economy after his second term.

DrDeano on April 3, 2012 at 11:42 AM

wow, just wow. So what was the kerfuffle at the supreme court last week all about?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

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Wow. Just stupid. Meme updated for idiot commenters whose troll names begin with “0bama.”

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:43 AM

More empty boilerplate from Obama. He is “playing on our fears!!!”

Obamacare is his signature Trojan horse, and his HHS Secretary is the purveyor of prophylactics of the same name.

onlineanalyst on April 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

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If you had an order of 100 more wit, you’d reach the half-life of one wit.

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

What are you doing to solve besides whining and prostrating yourself in “mea culpa” fashion? Are you in a position to affect the spending and taxing decisions of the Federal government?

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Only with my vote my friend.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM

0bamaderangementsyndrom on April 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

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If you were any less obtuse, you would have a value between 90º and Pi.

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Only with my vote my friend.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM

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Thanks for clearing that up.

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM

He continues the stern attack: “It’s antithetical to our entire history as a land of opportunity and upward mobility for everyone who’s willing to work for it – a place where prosperity doesn’t trickle down from the top, but grows outward from the heart of the middle class.”

Apparently Obama is unschooled in “our entire history” since respect for the individual and liberty form its foundations, not command (top down) federal economy. Prosperity flowers when the people of a nation are unfettered. Statistics would prove that his claims of the origin of economic mobility are wrong.

onlineanalyst on April 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM

…is this a joke?

thirtyandseven on April 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

No, that would be a promise. Ignore the fact that ernesto is a confirmed leftist. What he doesn’t seem to think is that it’s his guy that is proposing that his generation WILL INDEED pay 30%…40%…50%…and upwards of their income, to support Social Security and Medicare in their current forms.

I don’t expect the young either to pay such obscene amounts of their income to keep the current system afloat.

retard4life and misspellerderangementsyndrom think differently, judging from their failed attempts to deflect.

MNHawk on April 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Thaddeus McCotter debates Joe Biden, it would be like watching a baby seal being clubbed.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Here, here. Love McCotter.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Obama is offering Night Train (fortified KoolAid) to lull the takers into accepting his deceitful rhetoric.

onlineanalyst on April 3, 2012 at 11:58 AM

It’s a TRAP! Paul Ryan is trying to sneak COMMON SENSE into DC! DON’T LET IT HAPPEN!

CycloneCDB on April 3, 2012 at 11:59 AM

The POTUS needs to look in the mirror with comments like this.
huskerthom on April 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM

It wouldn’t matter. I think he has a magic mirror that shows you as you think you are. So you know he is looking in the mirror and saying to himself, “Hey look, I AM God!”

Sterling Holobyte on April 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM

It’s a TRAP! Paul Ryan is trying to sneak COMMON SENSE into DC! DON’T LET IT HAPPEN!

CycloneCDB on April 3, 2012 at 11:59 AM

All Ryan is proposing is the status quo solution. Have you taken a look at the size of the federal debt? It’s going to take more than managing our decline, to dig us out of the hole the federal government has spent us into.

When did the American people start applauding, their elected officials, who think they are worth serving the “scraps” the “leavings” to?

A country that was built on exceptionalism, being conditioned by a self serving political class to lower their expectations just because ?????

Wake up America, you deserve better, and come November, you have the opportunity to vote the bums out.

Dr Evil on April 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM

D’ya ever get the feeling that Che’s dream job would be on Zeke Emanuel’s Obamacare Death Panel?

slickwillie2001 on April 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Hey obambi, why dont you put a trojan over your head until you turn blue.

rjulio on April 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM

That is so derogatory toward Trojans. You’d think a president who can detect when others have acted stupidly would know better.

J.E. Dyer on April 3, 2012 at 1:07 PM

The Democrats have managed to take another word away from us: “radical”. Radical now means “something the Democrats do not like”.

I suppose, then, we could call the Democrats “radical”.

RickCaird on April 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Obama is as phony as a $3 bill and if this nation continues to follow this modern day Pied Piper it will soon end up off the end of the pier.

rplat on April 3, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Obama is as queer as a $3 bill and if this nation continues to follow this modern day Twaggot it will soon end up off the end of the pier.

rplat on April 3, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Allow me to make a small edit.

tom daschle concerned on April 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I honestly think Obama should be examined by a psychiatrist to determine if he is legally sane.

Maybe he is just projecting?

Either way, there is an underlying assumption the American people are stupid and not paying attention.

Can you ever in your lifetime remember this type of fallacious rhetoric coming from a sitting President?

Marcus Traianus on April 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I honestly think Obama should be examined by a psychiatrist to determine if he is legally sane.

Maybe he is just projecting?

Either way, there is an underlying assumption the American people are stupid and not paying attention.

Can you ever in your lifetime remember this type of fallacious rhetoric coming from a sitting President?

Marcus Traianus on April 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Read Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, know Chicago machine politics, look at Ogabe’s associations, allies, and affiliations.

This is a deeply cynical, and angry man taking out the wrath of the World onto the big olde mean United States…you and me.

Look at all his empty rhetoric and absolute ignorance about the law, economics, and normal American life. He believes that he is here to manage the decline of the USA and divide the spoils up to the world.

tom daschle concerned on April 3, 2012 at 4:27 PM

“Mr. President,” the shout goes out at Obama’s once every couple of years news conference.

“You say Ryan’s plan is a Trojan horse. Mind elaborating on your plan? Further, why didn’t a single Democrat in the House approve your budget as presented?

Hang in there….it’ll happen.

NOT!

patfish on April 3, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Obama has been riding that horse bareback.

mediamime on April 3, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Not only did Obama flunk Supreme Court Powers 101, he also didn’t pay attention in his literature classes when they talked about metaphores, allusions and the Greeks.. The Trojan Horse is the Obama budget. A gift. For everyone. A lovely gift for the Trojans, until payment came due and the warriors destroyed the over-fed fools. Sort of like what happens when the bill comes due for all that free stuff Obama is peddling…and then we’re back to those Greeks and what’s kept in the belly of the beast. Food shortages, homelessness, riots…

How did that man get through Freshman English?

Portia46 on April 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM

So if we’re out of one war, half-assing the other, and have effectively finished all the TARP and ARRA spending, why do the deficits continue to be double (at MINIMUM) the Bush/Republican-era deficits, and are projected at about a trillion a year for the foreseeable future?

Obama expires the tax cuts, ends the Middle East engagement, assumes ridiculously huge GDP growth, and presumes several cost-saving measures that will never materialize (e.g. Doc Fix), and STILL he is stuck around a trillion a year. If he blames these factors for the huge deficts, why are they twice as large even after he takes them all out and magically triples the rate of economic recovery?

The Schaef on April 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM

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