Harper: Thanks to Obama’s “no” on Keystone, the price of Canadian crude will go up for the U.S.

posted at 2:50 pm on April 3, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The damage is done. Even if President Barack Obama decides to approve the Keystone XL pipeline at some point in the future, he already sent a message to Canada that our northern neighbor can’t rely on us as its only energy customer — and Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper heeded it.

In an interview with former U.S. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) in D.C. yesterday, Harper explained that Canada will now seek to expand its export market to Asia and will also cease to supply oil to the United States at a discounted rate.

“Look, the very fact that a ‘no’ could even be said underscores to our country that we must diversify our energy export markets,” Harper told Harman in front of a live audience of businesspeople, scholars, diplomats, and journalists. …

Harper also told Harman that Canada has been selling its oil to the United States at a discounted price.

So not only will America be able to buy less Canadian oil even if Keystone is eventually approved, the U.S. will also have to pay more for it because the market for oilsands crude will be more competitive.

“We have taken a significant price hit by virtue of the fact that we are a captive supplier and that just does not make sense in terms of the broader interests of the Canadian economy,” Harper said. “We’re still going to be a major supplier of the United States. It will be a long time, if ever, before the United States isn’t our number one export market, but for us the United States cannot be our only export market.

“That is not in our interest, either commercially or in terms of pricing.”

“We cannot be, as a country, in a situation where our one and, in many cases, only energy partner could say no to our energy products. We just cannot be in that position.”

Harper’s comments came the same day that Barack Obama’s Super PAC, Priorities USA, released an ad that sought to tie Mitt Romney to Big Oil. The ad was itself a response to an ad underwritten by the American Energy Alliance that attacked Obama on his energy record and warned that this administration would be content to see gas prices rise as high as $9 a gallon.

This fallout from the president’s decision on Keystone XL underscores the truth that Obama does not make policy decisions in a vacuum. He’ll do what he will — and other countries will respond accordingly. Our famously “cerebral” leader might have preferred to have had more time to “sufficiently review” the project, but he didn’t. In the time frame he was given, he made his priorities perfectly clear: He cares more to retain the support of certain constituencies than to approve a project that would have created thousands of jobs and signaled to Canada that we’re committed to ensure a supply of affordable energy for ourselves. The American Energy Alliance had it right: The president’s energy policies have done nothing to secure America’s energy future. We’ll be ever more at the mercy of the oil-producing countries the president likes to blame so much.


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Thank you, President Obama

–crr6, liberal4life, libfreeordie

NoFanofLibs on April 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

The price going up is Obamanomics … it’s going to be taught in all of the finer Ivy League schools.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Hello, GOP ad machine. The ads are making themselves, will you run them?

rbj on April 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Uh oh. Looks like the Canadian PM is admitting the actions of the US president can indeed influence gas prices. Libtard memes hardest hit.

Kataklysmic on April 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Oh Canada! The U.S. voters really made a mistake in 2008, eh?

DrStock on April 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Obama’s base:

– welfare recipients (don’t own a car)
– urban residents (take the bus/subway)
– college kids (mon and dad pay for gas)

Gas could be $10 a gallon and the typical Obama vote won’t be affected. That’s why he doesn’t care about the politics of it.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Feature, not bug in the 0bama energy policy.

This is for our own good. You will not like. It will last a long time.

At least Harper plays for his team. I can’t wait to get a president that plays for our team.

jukin3 on April 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Obama hates Americans.

jawkneemusic on April 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Silly Canadian Prime Minister. I just saw our President visit Cushing OK and tell us that he’s fast-tracking this so-called Keystone Pipeline. Please go back and get your facts straight.

/s

Tar Heel Sooner on April 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Let’s be honest here – aside from that pesky issue of Obama buying the White House once again, he’d rather the price of fuel go way up to Downgrade our freedom of choice on transportation.

“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.” Thomas Jefferson

Chip on April 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Harper explained that Canada will now seek to expand its export market to Asia and will also cease to supply oil to the United States at a discounted rate.

Translation: Yep, we’re selling to China.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

0bambi is the risk president.

That’s what Canada is saying. They are charging us a risk premium because of the uncertainty that we will be a reliable customer.

Smart Power on display.

/

freedomfirst on April 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Lets see,,President Dick-head or President Dumb -Shit,,take your pick

retiredeagle on April 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Obama’s craven politicking gave priority to his personal and political agendas over vital national interests.

The result is yet another economic disaster. We will pay many millions of dollars more in fuel costs as a direct result.

novaculus on April 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Uh oh. Looks like the Canadian PM is admitting the actions of the US president can indeed influence gas prices. Libtard memes hardest hit.

Kataklysmic on April 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Somebody better alert Romney, too.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

That’s beside the point. Turning down the pipeline wasn’t about the price of oil. It was about Burlington Northern railroad which is owned by Warren Buffet. That oil today is transported by his railroad. Had the pipeline been approved, he would have lost millions in revenue.

The Keystone pipeline disapproval is about protecting a political supporter’s business.

crosspatch on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Hello, GOP ad machine. The ads are making themselves, will you run them?

rbj on April 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Don’t hold your breath for this to happen.

Yahoo News journalist Rachel Rose Hartman reported that the news organization listened in on a private conference call with the Republican National Committee that cautioned insiders from making “personal attacks against President Barack Obama”, because it would be “too hazardous for the GOP.”

“We’re hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks” Republican pollster Nicholas Thompson, said on during the private call. “There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.” Thompson found that despite low job approval ratings, voters still had high personal approval ratings of President Obama.

It’s the Romney/McCain way. Be nice. Don’t attack. Praise the other guy, even while the other guy accuse you of being a Nazi.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Harper: Thanks to Obama’s “no” on Keystone, the price of Canadian crude will go up for the U.S.

Alternate headline:

“Harper to Obama: Go fuck yourself”.

BacaDog on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Well, say what you will about Obozo, but he does keep his word in regards to energy policy.

KMC1 on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Way to go dear,leader!
/

Kudos to harper…..

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Hello, GOP ad machine. The ads are making themselves, will you run them?

rbj on April 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

+1

talkingpoints on April 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Obama; don’t blame me in 5….4….3

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

If you want to see how big a deal Harper’s statement is, see the third and fourth charts here, which shows how much gasoline really costs (minus state gas taxes) and which states benefit most from direct pipeline connections to Canadian oil….

ironman on April 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.”

Yeah, they’re called “Democrats who don’t realize that he’s causing all the problems he’s suffering from.”

teke184 on April 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Thank you for your exceptionalism, Obamafraud.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Oh Canada! The U.S. voters really made a mistake in 2008, eh?

DrStock on April 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

One
Big
A$$
Mistake
America!

Rogue on April 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I like this Harper. No nonsense and right to the point.

There goes the democrats cries that presidents can’t influence gas prices. I sure hope this gets a lot of attention this election.

plutorocks on April 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM

If I’m not mistaken, it is the absence of enough pipeline that is causing Bakken oil to get a discount. And continue to pound the living $hit out of our roads.
Thanks D!C$WAD!

Badger40 on April 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Thank you, President Obama

–crr6, liberal4life, libfreeordie

NoFanofLibs on April 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Heh. Beat me to it.

And with the first comment, no less!

Well played.

UltimateBob on April 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I don’t care. Obama is awesome.

tommer74 on April 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Good for Harper. In giving Obama the high hard one he’s seeing to Canada’s interests. It’s not his job to look out for American interests, it’s Obama’s. Too bad he doesn’t want to do so. Criminal ***k.

totherightofthem on April 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Obama; don’t blame me in 5….4….3

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

It’s Bush’s fault that I said “no” on Keystone.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Hope! Change! I just hope I have some change left in my pocket when the jug-eared Marxist finally leaves office.

catsandbooks on April 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

PBHO told us: “Under my administration your energy prices will necessarily get jacked through the effin roof and you will be bled of every last penny in your possession just to survive.”

Bishop on April 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Heh. Beat me to it.

And with the first comment, no less!

Well played.

UltimateBob on April 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Thank you, sir.

NoFanofLibs on April 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Consequences.

Remember people: Elections Matter

BigGator5 on April 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM

David Plouffe to release $50m ad campaign tarring Canada as a racist, tea party extremist enemy of the US.

In 3, 2…

CorporatePiggy on April 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

You can’t enlighten the world community about American exceptionalism, until they see that America would prefer to buy Canadian oil from China, at a higher price.

THAT is the greatness of America.

- Barack Obamuh.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

SMART POWER, that’s what we’ll all remember bo for!

tim c on April 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM

“Under my administration, energy prices will skyrocket.”

What’s so hard to comprehend about that? As for Harper, WOW! Nations tend to act in their own self-interest. Who knew?

GarandFan on April 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Remember people: Elections Matter

BigGator5 on April 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM

No. Principles matter darnit!

Ask MadCon – he’s not old enough to drive but if he was he’d pay $40 a gallon rather than be thought a RINO.

CorporatePiggy on April 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

“It would be extraordinary for a group of unelected people to allow for a sovereign nation to export its energy products to any customer it desires.”

-President Lame Duck

Nemesis of Jihad on April 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

“We’re hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks” Republican pollster Nicholas Thompson, said on during the private call. “There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.” Thompson found that despite low job approval ratings, voters still had high personal approval ratings of President Obama.

Maybe if you worthless efffers would actually run some ads about the damage he is doing to the country he might not be as well loved.

arnold ziffel on April 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Angryed, Cripe

Squishes unite!

Ugh

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mr. Harper is fulfilling his primary responsibility and taking actions that are best for his country.
Wish we had a leader who did this.

Jabberwock on April 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Ah well, at least the Plague-carrying Sabretoothed Slime Rat has been saved from extinction, there are only 125 million left in the United States.

Bishop on April 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Lets see,,President Dick-head or President Dumb -Shit,,take your pick

retiredeagle on April 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I think we picked both.

Immolate on April 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Average clueless citizen: “Whoo hoo! Let’s re-elect him!”

yhxqqsn on April 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Can someone make a TV ad with this ?

Sams88 on April 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Spot on bitter clinger

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 3:13 PM

It’s the Romney/McCain way. Be nice. Don’t attack. Praise the other guy, even while the other guy accuse you of being a Nazi.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Bangs head on desk

We can’t afford four more years of this garbage by the Fascist-Democrats. It’s not being mean to point out Dear Liar’s failings and misguidedness. Why is the GOP so intent on being the Stupid Party?

rbj on April 3, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Gas could be $10 a gallon and the typical Obama vote won’t be affected.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Not true. Higher gas prices mean higher prices for food and many other commodities as well as services. The ripple effect is enormous.

ProfessorMiao on April 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

One has to wonder what all the heads of countries think when they have to deal with bho? bho is a total laughing stock here and around the world! Gads lets get this slug slime out in Nov.!
L

letget on April 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

But he talked pretty.

Seriously way to go liberals – thank you SO much!

gophergirl on April 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Apparently Harper isn’t as easily impressed as the typical Democrat woman looking for a sugar daddy’s $9/month check.

Sucks if you’re part of productive society, like us.

MNHawk on April 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Dear Mr. Prime Minister,
I would like to apologize for America… electing a dipsh!t.

JusDreamin on April 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Not true. Higher gas prices mean higher prices for food and many other commodities as well as services. The ripple effect is enormous.

ProfessorMiao on April 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

The assumption of the typical Obama voter making that connection would not be a good one on your part. Never underestimate the stupid that grips this country. Obama is only the end product.

MNHawk on April 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Uh oh. Looks like the Canadian PM is admitting the actions of the US president can indeed influence gas prices. Libtard memes hardest hit.

Kataklysmic on April 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

I stumbled upon this yesterday:

“I’m a little peeved when I hear the President say there’s not much we can do about this [gas prices], folks…Where is his responsibility in all this? Five and a half years, and we’re dealing with these gas prices? It’s ridiculous.”

- Meredith Viera, 26 April 2006.

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Someone send Obama to bow to this Harper guy, stat.

visions on April 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM

We are heading in the right direction

L4L

Electrongod on April 3, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Doesn’t Harper know about American exceptionalism?

OhEssYouCowboys on April 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Obama is in a Poker game playing Go Fish.

A$$hat-in-Chief.

profitsbeard on April 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Obama is a sniveling cynical malcontents hell bent on making American’s lives worse.

Never forget that.

tom daschle concerned on April 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Apparently Harper isn’t as easily impressed as the typical Democrat woman looking for a sugar daddy’s $9/month check.

Sucks if you’re part of productive society, like us.

MNHawk on April 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Sad but true.

tetriskid on April 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

“PM Harper acted stupidly”
/PBHO

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Obama is in a Poker game playing Go Fish.

A$$hat-in-Chief.

profitsbeard on April 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM

LOL.

Obama is the Joker in the card deck.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM

For Harper, this move works on several levels. First, it’s the right thing to do for Canada. Second, it’s always good politics in Canada to thumb your nose at the US. This has been tricky for Harper in the Obama era because in the socialist eastern part of the country, Obama has been viewed favorably. It was OK to bash Bush (Canadians get their news filtered from LA and NY), but bashing Obama was a bit more delicate. It would sell in the growing parts of the economy (Alta and Sask) but not so much in Ontario or Quebec. With this move, he can do a “more in sorrow than in anger” maneuver that still gets him Canadian chauvinistic brownie points. Shrewd.

MichiCanuck on April 3, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I guess Jedi mind tricks don’t work on Canadians. They’re gonna go ahead and take care of Canada.

Obama’s energy policy as far as I can figure, has something to do with bankrupt solar companies, shutting down fossil fuels and algae.

magicbeans on April 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Mr. Harper, the Prime Minister of Canada is saying there is a possibility that somehow Obama might win re-election. Harper knows from dealing with Obama, and seeing the democrat party try to make all sorts roadblocks to selling the oil through the pipeline, that the USA is not a reliable trading partner. It does not take a financial genius to know that USA is on the road to become Greece.

Canada is an oil exporter, and a country on the way to governmental financial sanity.

Harper is going to do what is best for Canada. It is that old question your parents asked you. If one of your friends were going to jump off a cliff, and kill themself, would you jump too?

And when they jump, do you want them having the keys you your safe?

DVPTexFla on April 3, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I just love this Ivy League exceptionalism:

Never buy oil from a longstanding, “democratic” and peaceful ally, at a discounted price.

Always buy oil from a longstanding, Communist enemy, at a higher price.

Oh, and the more you owe your enemy, the better.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 3, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I read that the BMD folks are being stood up in preperation for the NORK multistage bird. Aegis ships being positioned around Japan and SK and that big azz X-band paddeling it’s way west. Amusing part of the article was that they go after the NorKo bird if it was headed for any friendlies and the decision to intercept would be made by President Present.
I highly recommend they put the battle management group on speed dial from King Putt’s phone. Or Dear Liars permission, (like the Keystone decision) will come too late to matter.

Missilengr on April 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM

It’s the Romney/McCain way. Be nice. Don’t attack. Praise the other guy, even while the other guy accuse you of being a Nazi.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Cue the super-PACs. This is why we need ‘em.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM

PM Harper better be carefull.
US Dems may start making noise about taxing Canada on “excess profits” made by selling oil to China.

Jabberwock on April 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

- Meredith Viera, 26 April 2006.

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Haha. Bet she’s talking out the other side of her mouth today.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM

“They really punch above their weight”. Not that we aren’t slimming daily thanks to this Obama parasite.

MechanicalBill on April 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

How long would would it take for a typical Obama worshipper’s eyes to glaze over when presented with any of these explanations from Harper?

I have to say, it’s refreshing to see a head-of-government display a basic grasp of the economics assoicated with a major export from his country. Wish we had that here.

86 on April 3, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Too bad this isn’t an election year…

… or else the GOP candidates could use this to smack Obomwa and the Democrat Part as a whole square across the face.

What…?

… oh.

Seven Percent Solution on April 3, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Those darned Canadians! They just want to make Zero look bad; and in a election year! Don’t they know they are supposed to give him some space? He can always be more flexible after his election. Never could trust them…

/

ghostwalker1 on April 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I see the new crop of lib trolls are avoiding this thread like the plague.

Erich66 on April 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Harper’s preparing for the day when the EPA bans the use oil from tarsands.

agmartin on April 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

- Meredith Viera, 26 April 2006.

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Haha. Bet she’s talking out the other side of her mouth today.

Dee2008 on April 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM

She could pull a DWS and claim “I did not say that”.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM

How I wish we had a Harper in the Oval Office.

J.E. Dyer on April 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I’d settle for anyone who actually loved their own country, such as Harper obviously does Canada.

MNHawk on April 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Alternate headline:

“Harper to Obama: Go fuck yourself”.

BacaDog on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Do you eat with that mouth?

timberline on April 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM

May that JugEared Wunderkind burn in hell for all eternity and may the flames in hell be fueled by Chinese oil bought from Canada.

NapaConservative on April 3, 2012 at 4:05 PM

What a multi-plate-spinning incompetent in the White House. Who’s he going to blame when he loses the election in November?

EMD on April 3, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Wasn’t the original Canadian idea for this pipeline simply to give them warm water port access so they could ship their crude to Asia anyway?

rickyricardo on April 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Because 3 years isn’t quite enough time to review! – Pres. Downgrade

shanimal on April 3, 2012 at 4:11 PM

I completely agree with Harper here. Were I in his place, I would make the same calculation.

We were basically in a contract with canada where they gave us preferential treatment and we didn’t dick them over.

Obama just dicked them over thus breaching the contract. You don’t say no in that arrangement.

We need to get this bozo out of office.

Karmashock on April 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Better be ready to ‘go’ if you drop the gloves with a Canadian, Barack.

forest on April 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Wasn’t the original Canadian idea for this pipeline simply to give them warm water port access so they could ship their crude to Asia anyway?

rickyricardo on April 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Per NAFTA, the US has a right of first refusal to all hydrocarbons produced in Canada and Mexico.

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 4:15 PM

From: The One
To: V. Jarrett

Val -

Please tell Hillary to send a reset button to PM Harper and make sure she gets it correctly translated into Canadian. This worked so well with the Russians, that I just got their endorsement for this fall. I would do it, but I am on the tee box and have honors.

Best – BHO

NeoDawg on April 3, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Gas could be $10 a gallon and the typical Obama vote won’t be affected.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Not true. Higher gas prices mean higher prices for food and many other commodities as well as services. The ripple effect is enormous.

ProfessorMiao on April 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

You’re right of course. But the typical Obama voter can’t put 2 and 2 together to figure that out. Never forget that Obama got 70% of the high school dropout vote. Obama gets 80% of the govt worker vote. Obama gets 80% of the union vote. Not exactly the all star Mensa roster we’re talking about.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM

That’s beside the point. Turning down the pipeline wasn’t about the price of oil. It was about Burlington Northern railroad which is owned by Warren Buffet. That oil today is transported by his railroad. Had the pipeline been approved, he would have lost millions in revenue.

The Keystone pipeline disapproval is about protecting a political supporter’s business

pipeline would have drawn off maybe 100k barrels a day from the over 1 million the railroads already move.
bnsf does not get all the RR money there, CP is there (crosses border twice to deliver) and bnsf hands off to UP also.
and the unit trains there (100 cars or more) are being built up and delivered to class one RR’s by locals.

IMO this was less about buffet and more about hating oil….that the RR need to run.

dmacleo on April 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Hello, Romney!!
Get your election team off their asses and hammer the Fraud in Chief on this.
The commercial is simple.
Shot of gas station pump showing price then quote of Obama denying Keystone pipeline with date.
Repeat with further pics of higher prices and more quotes of Obama’s dithering. Feel free to end with your own tag line about drill baby drill. 30 seconds worth of gold.

Follow it up with a single mother complaining about choosing between paying for gas and feeding her baby; construction worker turning down jobs too far away; police officer riding a bike trying to catch a speeder instead of his cruiser because gas costs too much.

Come on, this is your election to lose. Believe it. Breath it. Do it.

smfic on April 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM

You’re right of course. But the typical Obama voter can’t put 2 and 2 together to figure that out. Never forget that Obama got 70% of the high school dropout vote. Obama gets 80% of the govt worker vote. Obama gets 80% of the union vote. Not exactly the all star Mensa roster we’re talking about.

angryed on April 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Mensa Society members unite!

The stoopid is strong with the dems.
leeches of society with little to no edumacashun will never be able to make 2+2=4.

D-fusit on April 3, 2012 at 4:36 PM

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