GSA shaken up after details of 2010 Vegas conference spending revealed

posted at 1:40 pm on April 3, 2012 by Steve Eggleston

Remember when President Obama told the recipients of “stimulus” money to not hold conferences in Las Vegas? It seems he forgot to tell the General Services Administration about that, or the fact that the government was spending trillions more than it was taking in for that matter. The GSA held an “over the top” Western Regions Conference at the M Resort and Casino in neighboring Henderson, Nevada in October 2010 costing $823,000. the Washington Post reports that, as a result, GSA Administrator Martha Johnson resigned, two of her top aides were fired, and four GSA managers who organized the conference were suspended:

The leadership collapse came hours before GSA Inspector General Brian D. Miller released a scathing report on the $823,000 training conference, held for 300 West Coast employees at the M Resort and Casino, an opulent hotel in Henderson, Nev., just south of Las Vegas. From $130,000 in travel expenses for six scouting trips to a $2,000 party in Peck’s loft suite, event planners violated federal limits on conference spending.

Some of the “highlights” from the linked report include:

  • $75,000 spent on a “team-building” exercise, which was to build a total of 24 bicycles. Of note, the GSA sidestepped its own Federal Surplus Property Donation Program to get the bikes to the local Boys’ and Girls’ Club.
  • $6,325 spent on the commemorative “stimulus” coins pictured on the front page, along with velvet boxes to hold the coins.
  • $31,028 spent on food and non-alcoholic beverages (there was a cash bar), or more than $100 per attendee, for a first-night reception where said commemorative “stimulus” coins were handed out.
  • $8,130 spent on “yearbooks”, $2,781.50 spent on canteens and carabiners, and $3,749.40 spent on shirts (the last for the “team-building” exercise), all in violation of GSA policy against agency money being spent on “momentos” of a conference.
  • The “Capstone Dinner” on the last night of the conference was turned into a “Talent Award Showcase” ceremony, complete with a red carpet, “so that federal funds could be spent for food”.

This isn’t exactly the first time exceedingly-wasteful spending by the GSA under the guidance of Johnson has come to light. Last year, it bought 116 electric cars for $4.5 million.

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) had this to say upon learning of this episode:

After President Obama lectured the private sector about not wasting funds on Las Vegas conventions, it’s hypocritical that such a large agency with critical management responsibilities across government would hold this luxurious conference at the height of the recession and even spend thousands on custom made coins touting the stimulus.

Employees congratulating themselves and promoting one of the most politically controversial initiatives of this Administration with taxpayer funds is indicative of the waste that exists in a bloated federal government. I appreciate the work of GSA Inspector General Brian Miller in investigating this matter. I expect that the committee will have additional questions for him and GSA about this wasteful spending.

Exit question: Was it the Vegas location, the Porkulus coins, or the fact this came out during election season the reason the GSA was shaken up?

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$823,000….meh…Mooch spends that on lobster in a week…

PatriotRider on April 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Oh wow, and here I thought this article was going to be about a Girl Scout cookie scandal.

eforhan on April 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Nice to know they enjoyed themselves with our money. /

squint on April 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM

as a result, GSA Administrator Martha Johnson resigned, two of her top aides were fired, and four GSA managers who organized the conference were suspended

Steve, you buried the lede. Two Federal employees were fired?!? Unheard of.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I can’t believe she lasted this long

Oh yeah, we have a lapdog media

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM

$75,000 / 24 bikes = $3125 per bike What were these bikes made of, gold?

$823,000 / 300 attendees = $2743.33 per attendee. This is, or should be, criminal.

rbj on April 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM

What?….I didn’t get invited to the party??!!!

PatriotRider on April 3, 2012 at 1:49 PM

This kind of spending is so bourgeois, and is so typical of the Communist elite. Of course, the gray and hopeless reality of Communism is for the little guys – not for the Communist elite, who spew their collectivism, but live their luxury and elitism.

And, that should say it all about them – but, unfortunately, it won’t, to half of the American voters.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 3, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Left out of the official budget was all the cash spent on hookers and condoms.

Zombie on April 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Hey folks, calm down he won!

It’s not hypocrisy -the left considers contradiction in word and deed to be an accomplishment par excellence.
You haven’t seen spending yet -it’s just beginning- especially if the election goes against them.

Don L on April 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM

The $31,208 “networking” reception featured a $19-per-person artisanal cheese display and $7,000 of sushi. Not to mention a hiring a clown and a mindreader.

This is so clearly out of line, one has to wonder how anybody attending could not see this as government waste. I mean you’ve got 300 government employees in a room and you still need to hire a clown?

Happy Nomad on April 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM

What’s lost in all of this is Marty was a political appointee of Obama – not a career civil servant.

Betcha we would know this if she was appointed by President Bush.

NoDonkey on April 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Well people I guess we should be happy they didn’t go to Paris for their get together? Think of THAT cost to taxpayers?

Is it just me or are y’all getting sick and tired of this? But, how in the world is going to stop if no one in dc does squat to stop it?

BTW, how many here will be able to go 50 miles from home on YOUR vacataion this year because of the gas prices and everything else costing more?
L

letget on April 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Heartache!

NASCARinCT on April 3, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Spot on nodonkey

Dem appointed

cmsinaz on April 3, 2012 at 1:55 PM

“Nobody can tell me that there’s anything particularly wrong with her. They’re blocking her because of some unrelated matter. Don’t hold this — this woman hostage. If you have an objection about my health-care policies, then let’s debate the health-care policies. But don’t suddenly end up having a GSA administrator who is stuck in limbo somewhere because you don’t like something else that we’re doing.” – Barack Obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_N._Johnson

NoDonkey on April 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I wonder if there were “statues” of Adonis and Aphrodite standing around, with grapes and champagne glasses in their hands?

OhEssYouCowboys on April 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM

This is where these leftists don’t get it…

They deride a company for spending this lavishly for a conference. I’m sure if this were Ford or Westinghouse or Goldman Sachs, Obama would be throwing a hissy fit at the wasteful spending by a private company. But they’ll happily spend ridiculous sums in government and not bat an eyelash at it. And then they don’t understand the right’s outrage at government spending it but not private companies.

What they don’t get is that we (the taxpayers) don’t get a choice in funding it or not when government does it. We are required to pay our taxes by government force, so we fund these things whether we like it or not. I have a choice as to whether to purchase the products of Ford or Westinghouse or use Goldman Sachs services. If I don’t like lavish spending by those companies, I can factor that into my purchasing decision and choose not to purchase their products. I get no such choice from government.

That is the difference the left will never understand between money in the corporate world versus the government world.

gravityman on April 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM

This is where these leftists don’t get it…

This and everywhere else.

NoDonkey on April 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Opulent!

SouthernGent on April 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM

They know the Titanic is going down, so why not empty the bar first?

RBMN on April 3, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Steve, you buried the lede. Two Federal employees were fired?!? Unheard of.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Call me a skeptic on that. They were likely told to step down and given preference on an application to any open federal job that they qualified for. Likely didn’t miss a day of work.

slickwillie2001 on April 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM

The coins depicted in the photo are similar to what DoD puts out (challenge coins).

They go back to the days when we could go to bars and if you didn’t have a challenge coin to set on the bar, you would be buying drinks.

Now we don’t go to bars because drinking is frowned upon. The coins sit in display cases.

But DoD has never paid for these coins. We bought them ourselves.

How GSA thought they would be appropriate for them, especially purchased by the taxpayers, would be interesting to find out.

NoDonkey on April 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM

So then you get the argument, well, this is not a stimulus bill, this is a spending bill. What do you think a stimulus is? (Laughter and applause.) That’s the whole point. No, seriously. (Laughter.) That’s the point. (Applause.)

forest on April 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM

They know the Titanic is going down, so why not empty the bar first?

RBMN on April 3, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Looks like they’re going after the silverware as well.

squint on April 3, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Too bad this isn’t an election year…

… or the GOP candidates could use this to smack Obowma and the Democrat Party upside the head.

What…?

… oh.

Seven Percent Solution on April 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Those 6 scouting trips had to be fun, huh? One week you hit the Belagio and the M, the next your at the Ritz in Laguna Nigel. Then it’s on to the Phoenician for some golf followed by a weekend at Tuscon National. And finaly a litle skiing in Park City with a quick stop off in Durango on the way back to DC.

DrW on April 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Boy am I glad we have a powerful presidential candidate in this election…whew…

PatriotRider on April 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM

the GOP candidates could use this to smack Obowma and the Democrat Party upside the head.

Seven Percent Solution on April 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Wouldn’t want to upset the Independents, you know. One whiff of partisanship, and they’ll all flutter away back to Obama, like startled butterflies.

squint on April 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM

This is a direct reflection and unpreventable result of the attitude brought to and perpetuated within the Executive Branch for eight years by former President Bush and his Administration …

/liberal4life (channeling its inner-Obama)

Oh yeah, and also don’t forget that ATMS are to blame, or something.

ShainS on April 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM

commemorative “stimulus” coins

O.M.G.

Our tax dollars at work in in the Obama nation.

ITguy on April 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM

So, how do we get our money back?

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM

$823,000 is chump change. Now it really gets expensive. As part of the CYA showing of remorse, all federal agencies will be required to train purchasing employees and approval officials not to spend money on blindingly stupid things that are and have been for a long time, banned. That will amount to tens of thousands of wasted hours of labor, printing material and probably contracts to beltway bandits to produce training materials. All to show that anyone could have made the same mistake and we’re right on it making sure this doesn’t happen again! And it won’t. Gaurrunteed. Never in Vegas. Possibly Miami or Hilton Head or Palm Springs …….

deadman on April 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Wow. This just shows how out of touch these people really are. Commemorative coins?!? Really???

For a “stimulous program” being run COMPLETELY on borrowed money!?!?

Idiots.

KMC1 on April 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM

It seems to me that between the director, 2 aides, 4 managers that they could cover the cost of the conference out of their pockets. After all they are supposed to spend the govt money like it was their own. Where’s the problem ??

KenInIL on April 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM

That bus has got to be a train to handle so much throwing.

jake49 on April 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM

This was all money well-spent. You should be glad you have the opportunity to pay for good government.

You are not a happy professor of Humanities on tenure track at a large public university like me. Thus, you hate your lives and take out your anger on this Board.

I am totally happy. I have not had to sacrifice my principles like you little people who worry about money. I don’t worry about money. Except those b@st@rd administrators have frozen my salary. I am going to kill their dogs.

libfreeordie on Anydate at Anytime

Sort of a Universal Post for libfree.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Wow. This just shows how out of touch these people really are. Commemorative coins?!? Really???

For a “stimulous program” being run COMPLETELY on borrowed money!?!?

Idiots.

KMC1 on April 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Well, the coin makers got stimulated.

(That just sounds wrong)

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Well people I guess we should be happy they didn’t go to Paris for their get together? Think of THAT cost to taxpayers?

letget on April 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Who do you think they are, Michelle Obama?

Happy Nomad on April 3, 2012 at 2:19 PM

$31,028 spent on food and non-alcoholic beverages (there was a cash bar), or more than $100 per attendee, for a first-night reception where said commemorative “stimulus” coins were handed out.

You gotta fight! (boom! boom!) For your right! (boom! boom!) To parrrrrrrrtay!

ITguy on April 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM

GSA Inspector General Brian Miller can kiss off getting a White House invite to Christmas dinner!

Probably be declared ‘senile’ and fired in the next week.

GarandFan on April 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM

The people in both houses that are actually in a position to do anything about any of this garbage taking place in the 0bama administration will grouse and complain a lot, just like us, then they’ll do nothing else.

Just ask Darrell Issa. He sure does grouse a lot. He even has meetings occasionally where he gets rather persnickety and pays tons of lip service to the cameras. But has he ever actually mitigated anything and/or accomplished anything substantive? Nope. — Not. one. thing.

So, go ahead. Go on, grouse and vent and complain a lot. It is what Republicans do. It is all they do.

FlatFoot on April 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

It seems to me that between the director, 2 aides, 4 managers that they could cover the cost of the conference out of their pockets. After all they are supposed to spend the govt money like it was their own. Where’s the problem ??

KenInIL on April 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Bottom line is that the agency’s inspector general should have gotten 300 fraud calls after the opening reception. The government standards on such events are very clear and any event where you are paying $7K for sushi, purchasing commemorative coins, and hiring a clown isn’t even close to that line. I consider every one of the attendees equally guilty of fraud.

Happy Nomad on April 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

“You can’t get corporate jets. You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayer’s dime” Barack Obama, town meeting in Elkhart, Ind. Feb. 2009

J_Crater on April 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

What they don’t get is that we (the taxpayers) don’t get a choice in funding it or not when government does it. We are required to pay our taxes by government force, so we fund these things whether we like it or not. I have a choice as to whether to purchase the products of Ford or Westinghouse or use Goldman Sachs services. If I don’t like lavish spending by those companies, I can factor that into my purchasing decision and choose not to purchase their products. I get no such choice from government.

That is the difference the left will never understand between money in the corporate world versus the government world.

gravityman on April 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM

And you would be wrong. These days the government can forcibly take your money and hand it to the automobile company that you chose NOT to buy from, which caused their profits to tank, but which the government rescued anyway.

AnotherOpinion on April 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Well, the coin makers got stimulated.

(That just sounds wrong)

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Let’s hope they didn’t go with the Franklin Mint. That stuff is fancy.

squint on April 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

This sounds like some of the sales meetings I went to during the go-go years in the mortgage business. Certainly not like any government conference I have attended.

rockmom on April 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

A parasite4life is a parasite4life

Bevan on April 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

This is outrageous. I hope the GOP gets some hard hitting ads out asap. Why did they even have to pay for a clown? they could have taken the one in the WH. And the mind reader was $3200. Too bad they didn’t see this coming.

GrannySunni on April 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM

FYI: in 2011, “Fat Cakes” ( aka: “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country”) michelle spent more than $10 MILLION of our tax money on her luxury vacations. Shortly after returning from her taxpayer-funded luxury vacation in January in Hawaii, she headed off for her taxpayer-funded vacation in Aspen. Then, America’s version of “Where’s Waldo-michelle spending our tax money ?” pops-up at another vacation in Las Vegas – following the GSA precedent in wasting our tax money. Looks like her “shared sacrifice” luxury vacations for 2012 will cost us taxpayers even more than we were robbed of in 2011.

TeaPartyNation on April 3, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Sigh

Another day, another government scandal.

And yet we’re constantly reminded that only the private sector is greedy.

Kingfisher on April 3, 2012 at 2:33 PM

So when Obama said, “Don’t go to Vegas,” he was only referring to the private sector and not to the government or his wife.

Yeah, that makes sense. (/sarc)

Kingfisher on April 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Sort of a Universal Post for libfree.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM

.
For a moment I was afraid that the comment was real… then I realized that the comment could be real, that it was not at all beyond the realm of possibility. It’s scary when snark becomes truth or even believable.

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

$823,000

“Hey, we’re 16 trillion in the hole. What’s another 823 grand?”
/GSA

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM

What?….I didn’t get invited to the party??!!!

PatriotRider on April 3, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Don’t worry, you’ll just get the bill.

tommer74 on April 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

all in violation of GSA policy against agency money being spent on “momentos” of a conference.

Is that a general government policy? Didn’t Michelle have special memento jewelry designed for some meeting in Hawaii? It had orchids-I think it was sterling. I think it said designed for Michelle Obama and was done at the taxpayers’ expense. Can we fire her? Please?

talkingpoints on April 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

GSA must have ticked of the O by reporting on something like lost Govt computers and this is that pay back they say is a b*tch.

katablog.com on April 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

If only they went to Vegas instead of Henderson, the none of this would have gotten out.

tommer74 on April 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM

$823,000….meh…Mooch spends that on lobster in a week…

PatriotRider

Yeah, but at least Moochbacca is a fashion icon.

8thAirForce on April 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Yeah and how much do those Motown concerts at the White House cost? Playing Big Man and laying off some stooge who spent what is a rounding error for the like of PBHO and Pelosi is nothing.

Bishop on April 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Resigned? How about pending criminal charges?

TexasDan on April 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

This was all money well-spent. You should be glad you have the opportunity to pay for good government.

You are not a happy female professor of Humanities on tenure track at a large public university in a mid-Atlantic state like me. Thus, you hate your lives and take out your anger on this Board.

I am totally happy. I have not had to sacrifice my principles like you little people who worry about money. I don’t worry about money. Except those b@st@rd administrators have frozen my salary. I am going to kill their dogs.

libfreeordie on Anydate at Anytime

Sort of a Universal Post for libfree.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Added to it for you, from what we already know.

Think of all the personal information the dummy has put out there already.

Yoop on April 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Added to it for you, from what we already know.

Think of all the personal information the dummy has put out there already.

Yoop on April 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

LOL. You are the wind beneath my wings, amigo.

HeatSeeker2011 on April 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

$2,000 party in Peck’s loft suite

I bet that place was awesome . . .

williampeck1958 on April 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

For a moment I was afraid that the comment was real… then I realized that the comment could be real, that it was not at all beyond the realm of possibility. It’s scary when snark becomes truth or even believable.

ExpressoBold on April 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

About 80% of the satirical comment consists of comments libfree actually made (the main exceptions being the “money well spent” paragraph and the “kill their dogs” comment, which I added).

Thus, when you say it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility–oh, it is WAY more than possible. She actually wrote about 80% of it.

I guess we could say that she is “beyond parody.” LOL

HeatSeeker2011 on April 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Obama’s Hawaiian holiday this year cost the government four times that much.

bw222 on April 3, 2012 at 3:20 PM

look at the bright side…it’s only 50% tax deductible.

…on second thought, please ignore that…

teejk on April 3, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Hrmph! Just wait ’till we see how the GSA partied at their 2011 conference…

Obama’s Hawaiian holiday this year cost the government fourforty times that much.

Four times as much would be the cost of an Obama date night in NYC.

hawkeye54 on April 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I’m surprised the White House didn’t just say all this spending was legal under the Commerce Clause…

jon1979 on April 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

GSA Administrator Martha Johnson resigned, two of her top aides were fired, and four GSA managers who organized the conference were suspended

Steve, you buried the lede. Two Federal employees were fired?!? Unheard of

They probably weren’t, you know, fired-fired. After things cool down, you’ll no doubt find them re-assigned to some basement office of a less visible federal bureaucracy.

hawkeye54 on April 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Obama in Inspector Renault mode: Shocked! Shocked! At all the waste and fraud in his administration. Especially grating from a White House that’s held more parties than Animal House, and a President who thinks nothing of sending his daughter, 12 friends and a platoon of Secret Service agents off to Oaxaca for a taxpayer funded spring break bacchanalia.

starboardhelm on April 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

We will be led to believe these are just bad people with very poor judgement and all will fade away until the next time some example of waste in government surfaces. But this type of waste on a smaller scale takes place all over at each level of government even by good people. Because when you are not spending your own money or the profit from the business behavior changes. It is why all government will have varying degrees of waste that will amount to millions if not multi billions as government gets larger. People simply think differently when spending tax money. It’s why government will grow regardless who is in charge. It is no different than the reason entitlements grow. And it is why the only way to address the problem is to prevent by law the government involvement in most areas.

Until we accept this as systemic and fence off government from almost all areas of our lives it will never end. This is not a judgement problem. As most things that bring governments down, it is a human nature problem. And we have a political party intent upon feeding the beast.

artman1746 on April 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM

It is what Republicans do. It is all they do.

FlatFoot on April 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Hey, being the back-up ruling party ain’t all paches and cream you know.

Is their one sane person that beleives they’ll actually take risk to oppose the Marxist assault on our freedom? I can see them heading off into battle now, with an Etch-a sketch strapped to the saddle of a white horse..

Don L on April 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

newportmike on April 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM

$823,000 is chump change. Now it really gets expensive. As part of the CYA showing of remorse, all federal agencies will be required to train purchasing employees and approval officials not to spend money on blindingly stupid things that are and have been for a long time, banned. That will amount to tens of thousands of wasted hours of labor, printing material and probably contracts to beltway bandits to produce training materials. All to show that anyone could have made the same mistake and we’re right on it making sure this doesn’t happen again! And it won’t. Gaurrunteed. Never in Vegas. Possibly Miami or Hilton Head or Palm Springs …….

deadman on April 3, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Yes and there will be a seminar covering all this material for every department head and secretary next month in Hawaii.

OkieDoc on April 3, 2012 at 4:19 PM

so do these beauracrats have a (D) after their names? enquiring minds want to know!

maineconservative on April 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM

But DoD has never paid for these coins. We bought them ourselves.

NoDonkey on April 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM

When I was a Unit Commander I had a supply of coins to present to special visitors. DoD definitely paid for those because they were a line item in my budget. Unit members had to buy their own, but for people not in the unit they were given out free of charge.

James on April 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM

The $820K didn’t even cover per diem and hotel expenses for everyone of the 300 rats. $77.00 max per night of hotel (unless they were authorized actual lodging), and $46 per day for meals an incidentals. Another $36,900 at least then add in airfare and cabs. You are looking at well over $900K. Plus I wouldn’t be suprised if they all claimed they tipped the bell hop $75 (the max you can claim without a receipt) everyday, based on how they partied it up.

cobrakai99 on April 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM

What are those coins? Get Out Of Jail Free tokens?

Ward Cleaver on April 3, 2012 at 5:26 PM

The Family in the White House has been setting the example.
Who’s shocked?

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

The Family in the White House has been setting the example.
Who’s shocked?

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

slickwillie2001 on April 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Why is everyone so upset? No crimes have been committed. Remember only Congress can create crimes and they have not said anything that happened is a crime (for them). The only real crime is that “WE THE PEOPLE” Allow this to go on. Just watch, in a few days this will disappear from Hot Air and by next week it will never be heard of again. That is sick. November is getting closer.

“VOTE WISELY MY FRIENDS” This may be our last chance.

jpcpt03 on April 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

They must have learned form the DOE.

mad scientist on April 3, 2012 at 8:43 PM