Bad news: Jay Carney doesn’t like questions about Obama’s budget

posted at 7:11 pm on April 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

To cleanse the palate, a simple question: Since only 51 votes are needed to pass a budget in the Senate and there are 53 Democratic and left-leaning independent senators, why doesn’t smilin’ Harry Reid ram through O’s latest spending blowout? The White House gets awfully fidgety when the media presses them on this, to the point where even former OMB director Jack Lew was forced to play dumb about how many votes are needed for Democrats to pass this thing. Any theories? Any hypotheses for why The One might be nervous about vulnerable red-state Democrats like Claire McCaskill and Jon Tester taking a vote on a budget that calls for another $1.3 trillion deficit this year and a cool $901 billion deficit next year? Leave your informed speculation in the comments.


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Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Why can’t he admit that there is no plausible answer to the question? He’s OUR president’s spokesperson, why would the largest cable news station not invite him on and why wouldn’t Mr. Carney have a straight answer.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Your comments reek of panic. Funny!

Bmore on April 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

This insanity! Obama is in an alternate universe of deep Marxist ideology and the democrats know it, so does the American people. Except for those that have their hands outstretched for gubmint cheese, there is no way people will buy this idiocy.

Kini on April 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Do you think the fib of the filibuster for the budget should go unchallenged? You are offended at interruptions, I am offended at lies.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Why can’t he admit that there is no plausible answer to the question? He’s OUR president’s spokesperson, why would the largest cable news station not invite him on and why wouldn’t Mr. Carney have a straight answer.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

You might be able to get an answer if you don’t interrupt every second. As if that will make him answer if he has already made up his mind he’s not going to answer.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Sorry if this point has already been made upthread; I haven’t read all of the comments yet. It would have been awesome if, in response to Carney’s blathering about how the President wants “bi-partisan” support, Brett said, “Why? He didn’t care about bi-parisaan support for health care reform.” I think Carney’s head would have exploded.

Just Sayin on April 3, 2012 at 8:44 PM

if they put up a budget to vote on (and then would go to conference committee where it would be hammered out between ryans’s and the dem’s before being submitted to both houses for a vote) would mean that the democrats could NOT continue to operate under the 2009 budget which they passed and we are still under.

athenadelphi on April 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Brett mentioned the reconciliation process, which I became very familar with during the Obamacare ramming.

However, someone please correct me if I have this wrong, there is no requirement for the Senate and the House to reconcile on a budget if they both pass a budget. And if they do not reconcile and agree on a budget the 2009 budget would continue in place as the last passed budget.

So there is no procedural reason for Reid to not pass a budget. If he wants to preserve the 2009 budget he makes sure his new budget is never reconciled with the House.

Reid does not want to talk about any new budget, at all, with anyone.

farsighted on April 3, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Because all this nonsense about ‘money’ and ‘debt’ and ‘deficit’ is bogus, just numbers in a computer somewhere. What really matters is how wonderful the ideas of Obama and the Democrats are, and how if we could just eliminate gag silence overcome the opposition from backwards-thinking radical-conservative Republicans and their greedy industrialist banker puppet-masters it would all work out just peachy and our future will be great. Trust us. It will. If you just believe hard enough.

Socratease on April 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Time constraints, not everyone can commanded unlimited free air time. Filibusters need to be limited to the Senate floor.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Sorry if this point has already been made upthread; I haven’t read all of the comments yet. It would have been awesome if, in response to Carney’s blathering about how the President wants “bi-partisan” support, Brett said, “Why? He didn’t care about bi-parisaan support for health care reform.” I think Carney’s head would have exploded.

Just Sayin on April 3, 2012 at 8:44 PM

I thought it was funny when he said a budget needs bipartisan support to pass. Obamacare didn’t. As usual the only bipartisanship is against Obama’s ideas.

txhsmom on April 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Seems like I’m several steps behind you, txhsmom!

Just Sayin on April 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

You are offended at interruptions, I am offended at lies.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM

What you call lies is what some call fact. The republicans altered the president’s budget in a way that was unacceptable to democrats to vote for. Then again, its all politics with these politicians, republicans and democrats. Their jobs are dependent on telling you whatever you want to hear regardless of whether it’s the right thing to do or not.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Time constraints, not everyone can commanded unlimited free air time. Filibusters need to be limited to the Senate floor.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

So what was accomplished during the exchange? Absolutely nothing. I bet you not a single mind was changed.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM

So what was accomplished during the exchange? Absolutely nothing. I bet you not a single mind was changed.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:53 P

M

And just like the President’s spokesman, you ignore the fact the Senate does not need one GOPer to vote for the President’s plan. You carry water for the President that is very apparent.Laughable.

CW on April 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Brett should have reminded the spokes tool that 414-0 is as bi-partisan as it gets.

jpmn on April 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

I bet Jay Carney’s breath smells really, really bad. I bet his wife has her bag packed and tucked away under the bed for the day she finally leaves him. Who wants to be married to Jay Carney and smell that breath? Who wants to be seen with a Jay Carney? He is like some awful sitcom character or something.

How is that for informed speculation, Mr. AP?

Punchenko on April 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Your comments reek of panic. Funny!

Bmore on April 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

When someone responds like you did Upper …..you are in fact admitting to the charge. Ask anyone who deals with liars in the law enforcement or security fields. You’re full of BS.

CW on April 3, 2012 at 9:01 PM

So what was accomplished during the exchange? Absolutely nothing. I bet you not a single mind was changed.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM

…only in your eyes and mind.

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Uppereast, fact the House has passed a budget. Fact the Senate has not. Fact Harry Reid only needs 51 votes. Fact the Democrats have used the Filibuster lie many times and usually don’t get called on it.

The lack of a budget from the Senate should be front page news in every newspaper around the country.

jpmn on April 3, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Carney is such a putz!

Jason Alexander on April 3, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Every year the marxist dems don’t pass a budget extnds the 10 years that obamacare and obama’s slush funds are locked in beyond the actions of the republicans in the senate and the house. It is a procedural thing. The dems always will play dirty politics. Like their socialist bretheren from the 1930s/40s, the ends justify the means.

I wish somebody else would pick up on this. There is a vast abysmal pool of ignorance of the budgeting process in republican ranks.

Old Country Boy on April 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

It seems that, in the past 2 weeks, the Democrats are learning a lot about defending the indefensible. Carney, IMHO, has no pride. How he can go out there and sacrifice what little credibility he has on this President, I’ll never know. As far as the Supreme Court defense, and the liberals having their panties in a wad, why didn’t one of them think of the questions that were being asked? Isn’t there one “constitutional scholar” in their midst, who could envision a possible challenge to this constitutionally?

I believe they did have one who could envision the challenges the court presented which is why they removed the severability clause from the bill, daring the court to strike down the whole thing because it wasn’t there. We’ll see and I sincerely hope the court has the vision to strike down the whole law. Perhaps, although I doubt it, the Democrats will learn how to write a bill in less than 2700 pages that can pass constitutional muster.

bflat879 on April 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

I saw that exchange…Brett 1, Jay 0. It was classic.

scalleywag on April 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM

What was accomplished was an informed public. For three years, while this administration has held a majority in the Senate, they have been promoting the idea that Pres. Obama has been unable to get a budget through the that body because of the filibuster. It was and is a lie that maybe the average American would not know because he has not been called on it, now he has.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Meh, don’t pass a bill, blame the other guy for your failure & still get elected. Politics baby !!!

Ragnar Danneskold on April 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM

If Republicans (Romney, Boehner, Reid, etc) were smart, they would have electronic boards — just like the one behind Baghdad Jay — that count the days since the last budget was passed and signed into law by Democrats along with the amount of debt that has been added since Obama became POTUS. They should be present every time any of them address the media or public.

This number is a little data because I usually update all of them once a month, but it’ll give you an idea:

Public debt on 01.20.09:

$6,307,310,739,681.66

Public debt on 03.16.12:

$10,820,230,118,370.38

Obama has increased the nation’s debt held by the public by $4,512,919,378,688.72 in 1,151 days.

Obama has increased the debt held by the public by 71.55% – SEVENTY-ONE POINT FIFTY-FIVE PERCENT – in 1,151 days (as of 03.16.12).

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

How many times can Press Secretary Carney say “balanced approach” to deflect from the questions posed to him? For the Dems, “balanced approach” means raising taxes as part of the formula; it does not, however, include any cuts for their social-engineering pet projects.

The rejection of Obama’s budget certainly reflects a bipartisan recognition that Obama is not serious about fiscal responsibility.

onlineanalyst on April 3, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Who wants to be married to Jay Carney and smell that breath? Who wants to be seen with a Jay Carney? He is like some awful sitcom character or something.

Punchenko on April 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Claire Shipman, formerly of ABC. Odds are her breath smells as bad as his.

Flora Duh on April 3, 2012 at 9:29 PM

I’m waiting for carney to have a gibberish moment. This is about as close as you can get without actually having one.

paul1149 on April 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM

What was accomplished was an informed public.
Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM

What informed public? The HA regulars or the Tea Party zealots? Riiiiiiiiiiiight

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

The republicans altered the president’s budget in a way that was unacceptable to democrats to vote for.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Really, do tell. If the Republicans altered it, then it would no longer be the president’s budget then, would it? You can bet the LSM would have parroted from the rooftops about how the House rejected a “Republican altered version of President Obama’s budget bill”. Yet we didn’t hear about that.

Yeah, they made it unacceptable for the democrats to vote for, the Republicans brought it to the floor for a vote. That wasn’t supposed to happen; they were supposed to have kept it off the floor so that Obama could demagogue the House on how it wasn’t giving him a fair hearing.

AZfederalist on April 3, 2012 at 9:46 PM

The republicans altered the president’s budget in a way that was unacceptable to democrats to vote for.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM

What was the excuse last year when his budget was shot down 97-0 in the Senate?

George Bush
Dick Cheney
Republican leadership
Big Oil
Fat Cats
Corporate jet owners
Israel
The Arab Spring
The euro crisis
Japanese tsunami
Airport kiosks
ATMs
Bitter-clingers
Tonsil-ripping-out doctors
Enemies
Manmade disasters
Workplace incidents at Fort Hood
Crosstown traffic
The closing of La Goulue
Bankers
The 1%
People that won’t pay their fair share
People that want dirty air and water
Rosetta Stone for failing to have an Austrian edition
CORPSEmen
“I see dead veterans in the Memorial Day audience”
Asia for stealing Hawaii
Arugula farmers

Who ya gonna blame? Blamebusters!

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 9:57 PM

This same interview needs to happen with Harry Reid.

Spiders from Mars on April 3, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Who wants to be married to Jay Carney and smell that breath? Who wants to be seen with a Jay Carney? He is like some awful sitcom character or something.

Punchenko on April 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Claire Shipman, formerly of ABC. Odds are her breath smells as bad as his.

Flora Duh on April 3, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Maybe she had to ‘settle’. Sorry for her.

slickwillie2001 on April 3, 2012 at 9:58 PM

So what was accomplished during the exchange? Absolutely nothing. I bet you not a single mind was changed.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM

judging by your breathless defense of Carney I would say a lot.

Not being able to answer a simple question honestly is in fact an answer. The question is how many of the public are too stupid to get that. Carney looked like a dolt who couldn’t be honest with the public.

Ampersand on April 3, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

No, they already knew it only took 51 votes to pass a budget. The Fourth Estate has a responsibility and it isn’t to be the media arm for the Left, all evidence to the contrary.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Someone got manhandled, yeah the guy that was stuttering a lot!

Africanus on April 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM

What you call lies is what some call fact. The republicans altered the president’s budget in a way that was unacceptable to democrats to vote for. Then again, its all politics with these politicians, republicans and democrats. Their jobs are dependent on telling you whatever you want to hear regardless of whether it’s the right thing to do or not.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM

I missed your explanation about why the Senate didn’t take up a vote on this if the President’s budget was a serious one.

Can it be that Reid didn’t want to embarrass Obama with another lopsided vote?

At some point you have to recognize this President is a failure. And there isn’t anything the Republicans have to do to make him look that way, the Democrats are doing just fine by themselves.

goflyers on April 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

It’s always great when the press secretary of the President of the United States of America answers questions with Nirvana lyrics.

I found it hard
it was hard to find
oh well, whatever
nevermind

jaime on April 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

It’s really sad. People like Uppereastside should expect and demand more from the people representing them.

Ampersand on April 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

You’re full of BS.

CW on April 3, 2012 at 9:01 PM

CW, its just to easy sometimes. But don’t forget they’re the really smart ones. ; )

Bmore on April 3, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Quote:
Brett should have reminded the spokes tool that 414-0 is as bi-partisan as it gets.

jpmn on April 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Very well put…

RockyJ. on April 3, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Answer the question, Claire!

What is it with Democrats getting pissed off when being asked the difficult questions? Wimps. They’d never make it as Republicans.

Book on April 3, 2012 at 10:17 PM

to=too, I think?

Bmore on April 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Obama has increased the debt held by the public by 71.55% – SEVENTY-ONE POINT FIFTY-FIVE PERCENT – in 1,151 days (as of 03.16.12).

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

If only. Sigh.

scalleywag on April 3, 2012 at 10:22 PM

It is becoming glaringly obvious, and more so each and every day that passes, that this administration has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, from it’s first 3 years in office that they can hold up as positive accomplishment. This administration can not run on their record as they have nothing but failure after failure to show for their efforts.
This little twerp can stand there and spin his little pea brain all day but the whole world knows he is p!$$ing in the wind.

The smell of failure is all over this presidency. Fortunately in this day of the internet, propaganda is obvious to all but the liberally insane..

RockyJ. on April 3, 2012 at 10:27 PM

If only. Sigh.

scalleywag on April 3, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Numbers come directly from the United States Treasury. You can look them up for yourself here. Go to the Debt to the Penny (Daily History / Search) link and enter the dates.

You will notice that I said public debt, which is a different number than the total national debt, which includes intra-governmental debt.

Resist We Much on April 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Carney is appropriately named considering the grimy, unctuous Marxist circus he’s fronting. His inept performance on Baier’s program was an embarrassment.

Jay may even displace Robert Gibbs as the “Joe Biden” of White House spokesmen and most likely of the West Wing besides Ghetto-Zero the Vacationer, Slow-Joe and Blabbermouth-Schultz favored to earn the coveted Baffled By Shiny Objects Award.

viking01 on April 3, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Jay Carney is like the little Dutch boy with his finger in the hole in the dike, only no one is going to come save him.

RebeccaH on April 3, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Oh yes it does which is why it will never pass in anyone’s lifetime.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:28 PM

And what is your plan besides another 7 TRILLION in debt and another 19 TRILLION im unfunded entitlements.

You brainless Obama cultists have lost the right to criticize anyone else’s proposals for quite some time.

Chuck Schick on April 3, 2012 at 10:59 PM

It is becoming glaringly obvious, and more so each and every day that passes, that this administration has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, from it’s first 3 years in office that they can hold up as positive accomplishment. This administration can not run on their record as they have nothing but failure after failure to show for their efforts. This little twerp can stand there and spin his little pea brain all day but the whole world knows he is p!$$ing in the wind.

The smell of failure is all over this presidency. Fortunately in this day of the internet, propaganda is obvious to all but the liberally insane..

RockyJ. on April 3, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Au contraire this corrupt piece of human excrement poofter chicagoan has consolidated a historical and unprecedented amount of power to the executive branch and its alphabet beauros. The cynical antiamerican alinskyite is doing exactly what he wants do not be deceived. It is all about power and enriching his pals.

tom daschle concerned on April 3, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Why can’t he admit that there is no plausible answer to the question? He’s OUR president’s spokesperson, why would the largest cable news station not invite him on and why wouldn’t Mr. Carney have a straight answer.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Brett Baier and Fox News only accomplished what Jay Carney wanted them to accomplish …

… they let Mr. Carney establish his line of argument rather than answer the question.

Mr. Carney is never going to answer the question – he just wants to have “appeared on Fox News”.

This was an old technique when Nixon’s people were doing it.

If Mr. Carney wants air time on Fox News – do the same interview, ask the same question and if Mr. Carney does not directly answer the question – stop the interview , tell Mr. Carney when he is willing to directly answer the questions to call you, and then have Brett Baier announce he was unable to get Mr. Carney to answer questions and Fox News has made the editorial decision not air the tape and waste their viewers time.

PolAgnostic on April 3, 2012 at 11:26 PM

PolAgnostic on April 3, 2012 at 11:26 PM

That will never happen now will it? Fox News and MSNBC are all about making money through increase viewership. Anything to rile up their viewers will always be a go.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 11:44 PM

You guys are misunderstanding Carney:

He said “buy partisan support”….NOT “bi-partisan support”!!!

/sarc>

landlines on April 3, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Jay Carney came across as an ineffectual idiot. Bret Baier provided Carney the opportunity.

C’mon Axlerod… hire some better trolls.

viking01 on April 3, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

So you must be in that “1%” since nothing changes for you, huh? Lucky you! And I assume Zero is a “moderate politician” to you; yep, he does seem like the very definition of “moderate” to me… I mean one look at the economy, deficit, failed ‘green’ ‘investments’, etc, etc is enough to verify that.

ghostwalker1 on April 3, 2012 at 11:59 PM

My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Maybe if you would stop your tiresome bleatings your parents would increase your allowance or Obambi would increase your stamps?

viking01 on April 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM

BS con Carney??

Sherman1864 on April 4, 2012 at 12:18 AM

I had the pleasure of watching this live earlier today. Carney is such a whiny thin-skinned baby. Just like his boss.

NealK on April 4, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Yep. Feel like smackin’ Carney’s glasses off his whiny smarmy baby face!

Sherman1864 on April 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Jay Carney explained the balanced approach: “Come on, Bret.”

Kenosha Kid on April 4, 2012 at 12:58 AM

I watched this as it unspooled live, as well. I laughed but at the same time was disgusted by the flat-out piss-poor White House spin Carney was putting out.

The simple answer is no Dem in the Senate wants their name on any of this crap legislation in an election year, even though they have the votes to ram anything through, just like they did with Obamacare. They just don’t have an answer to a GOP budget plan.

Dave in San Diego on April 4, 2012 at 2:27 AM

by Allahpundit

To cleanse the palate, a simple question: Since only 51 votes are needed to pass a budget in the Senate and there are 53 Democratic and left-leaning independent senators, why doesn’t smilin’ Harry Reid ram through O’s latest spending blowout?

With nearly 200 posts in this topic I hope to god that somebody has already pointed this out –

Allahpundit you ignorant sult. BECAUSE THEY CAN’T! Doesn’t anybody in the punderati have ANY clue about Civics and how things are SUPPOSED to work? All spending bills MUST originate in the House. It is left to the Senate to either then accept the legislation as forwarded, or make their own amendments to it, pass it and send it back to the House or to a conference committee to figure out a compromise piece of legislation that has a chance to pass both houses. Once it is returned to the House, the House votes it again. If passed it goes back to the Senate again. It may thru this cycle more than once. Back and forth. Or ‘left to die in committee’.
The Senate cannot initiate spending legislation.

That’s the impasse. The House can pass all the Ryan budgets it wants, but the Senate has refused for over 1000 days to perform one of their few enumerated duties and PASS A BUDGET SENT TO THEM.

rayra on April 4, 2012 at 4:08 AM

Brett should have reminded the spokes tool that 414-0 is as bi-partisan as it gets.

jpmn on April 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Count It !

tbear44 on April 4, 2012 at 4:15 AM

C’mon people, somebody on SOME side needs to read the f’n CONSTITUTION. IT’S NOT VERY LONG. About 20pgs of a paperback book. You can read it in under an hour.

Article I, Section 7 states that all revenue bills shall originate in the House of Representatives but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on any other bills. The reason for this is that at the time the Constitution was written, it was felt that Senators would be more wealthy than Representatives and might be willing to spend more government money than the Representatives would. Also, the House with its greater numbers was seen as being the better guage of the wishes of the people for spending measures.

rayra on April 4, 2012 at 4:22 AM

Next time he spews “balanced approach”, someone please ask him where the balance was when they were cramming Obamacare down our collective throats!

They don’t want a budget as that would lead to some sort of constraint.

UpTheCreek on April 4, 2012 at 4:59 AM

Jay Carney doesn’t like questions about Obama’s budget

Jay Carney is a classic libtard, one look at this guy says “libtard”, even before he opens his pie-hole. So he would never agree to do this:

———————

Right in the middle of a press conference…or in the middle of FOX News questioning, come out with the TRUTH!! It would be so refreshing !! Just having Carney say something like:

“You know Brett…YOU are absolutely right! I’ve been a liar for this clown in the White House everyday for some time now. I can’t take it any more. I’ve seen it up close, and behind the scenes. This guy is destroying America, and I can’t be a part of that anymore!!

Man o’ man…Carney would become an American hero of sorts!

Team Obama would have an impossible task, trying to cover-up this explosive episode with the White House kitty litter

BigSven on April 4, 2012 at 6:00 AM

The Republicans should be pressing the point that President Obama is just not serious about dealing with Americas problems. They should point out that every time he uses that down-home, “g”-droppin’, folksy cadence of his, he is saying something stupid about a serious problem.

Start using President Obama’s strengths against him. The time for battlespace preparation is now.

Haiku Guy on April 4, 2012 at 6:04 AM

rayra on April 4, 2012 at 4:08 AM

I think you are being ignored for good reason.

If you have something to say (dubious), try to do it without ranting in expletives.

BTW, I carry a copy of the Constitution with me.

You may respond but I will ignore your response.

Not worth the time I have already devoted to you.

Sherman1864 on April 4, 2012 at 6:40 AM

That’s the impasse. The House can pass all the Ryan budgets it wants, but the Senate has refused for over 1000 days to perform one of their few enumerated duties and PASS A BUDGET SENT TO THEM.

rayra on April 4, 2012 at 4:08 AM

The Senate doesn’t vote on a budget sent to them by the House. The Senate budget committee develops the Senate’s budget, which the Senate then votes on.

Policy Basics: Introduction to the Federal Budget Process

After receiving the President’s budget request, Congress generally holds hearings to question Administration officials about their requests and then develops its own budget resolution. This work is done by the House and Senate Budget Committees, whose primary function is to draft and enforce the budget resolution. Once the committees are done, their budget resolutions go to the House and Senate floors, where they can be amended (by a majority vote). A House-Senate conference then resolves any differences, and a conference report is passed by both houses.

The budget resolution is a “concurrent” congressional resolution, not an ordinary bill, and therefore does not go to the President for his signature or veto. It also requires only a majority vote to pass, and its consideration is one of the few actions that cannot be filibustered in the Senate.

Xiphos on April 4, 2012 at 7:47 AM

My question is, does the Obama administration really think Gibbs and now Carney put a good face on them? I can’t understand why they have adopted from day one a pugilistic arrogance as they both demonstrate almost every time they speak.

When you consider the impossible position Gibbs and Carney have been operating from, and 0bamessiah’s background as a community organizer agitator, I’d be surprised only if they didn’t have an ‘offense first’ mindset.

I’ve thought back over the years to other press secretaries and I just can’t think of any who were as obnoxious as these two. Can any of you?

MaxMBJ on April 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM

I can – Joe Lockhart. I believe he had noticibly less class than either Gibbs or Carney. Yes, I do realize what a bold statement that is, but Lockhart was really sleazy – he came off as though he was a mafia member.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 4, 2012 at 7:47 AM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Currently, we have a left-wing nut in the WH who is extremely dangerous for this country. If we get another 4 years of him, which I don’t think we will but you never know with enough voters who think like you, your upper east side neighborhood will quickly be unrecognizeable.

Cherokee on April 4, 2012 at 7:51 AM

Oh yes it does which is why it will never pass in anyone’s lifetime.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Let me get this straight – you believe the Bungler-in-Chief is a more fiscally responsible & serious person than Paul Ryan? On what basis? LOL you make me laugh!

Bizarro No. 1 on April 4, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Since only 51 votes are needed to pass a budget in the Senate and there are 53 Democratic and left-leaning independent senators, why doesn’t smilin’ Harry Reid ram through O’s latest spending blowout?

How many pants would collectively fill with excrement if a reporter actually asked this very question to the One at a press conference? I predict a KGB-style silencing mission would be in order . . .

JDF123 on April 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

SO, you’re a drug dealer?

Bevan on April 4, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Jay Carney’s job is the hardest in the world, defending the indefensible on a daily basis. You’ve got to respect a guy who can so ably do that.

PorchDawg on April 4, 2012 at 9:27 AM

What amazes me is that they think that they can continue to behave like this & that no one notices. Obviously, with the media in bed with them, they get very little feedback that we’re actually on to them (or at least choose to ignore the feedback they do receive) but if turnout in Wisconsin is any indication November will be an epic seismic event in the leftist liberal agenda….

Chinatola on April 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

SO, you’re a drug dealer?

Bevan on April 4, 2012 at 9:04 AM

No, Bevan. He said, “a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician” so obviously he’s excluding Democrats.

PorchDawg on April 4, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Where’s putz4life? He’s usually the first poster on threads.

Ward Cleaver on April 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. All politicians are bought and paid for by the upper 1%. They will sell you out.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

so you admit to being in the 1% then?

You defend the spokesfool to the end, toss out words like right wing nut like a natural, and never ever say left wing nut.. then attempt to sound unbiased by claiming they are all corrupt,..

riiiiiight..

Your very spirited defense of the hard left, while failing to even note they exist,.. while condemning the right as a matter of ourse betrays your real position..

A hard left apologist who milks the system like those he condems.. A money grubbing hypocrite, and a lame excuse for a debater. You know damn well Obama and the democrats are dirty, that they are lying about the budget they refuse to pass..

but you don’t care, cause you got your pile and are going to help the left pull that ladder up so no more of those icky rich are able to be created.

If the public ever does go postal and take down the welthy as so many dimwits on the left wish.. they’re going to be coming for you too rich liberal.. I’m blue collar till I die, and we don’t hate the rich,.. far from it, what we hate, are rich fat hypocrites who talk like they see themselves as “down with the struggle”.. while they work really hard to cripple the system which created them.. so no more of our children can cross over to being wealthy..

You are the enemy.. not some mythical 1%.

A republican should be for all Americans.. but a democrat is just for the limo liberals, who use the poor as cannon fodder, but will never do a thing to actually allow the tide to lift ALL boats.. The left needs the poor to stay that way, and needs to manufacture a false enemy to divert them from who is really hurting them..

that would be you..

and lefties like you..

who trade in demagougory but never in solutions. My children may cross over the class line, and you and the lying left won’t have a damned thing to do with it., It’ll be in spite of you, not because.

mark81150 on April 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Obama keeps whining about Congress, but it is his majority in the Senate and Harry Reid, is a Democrat. He should just tell him to produce a budget.

Last night, Debbie DNC chair was on Greta, and she was dancing all around this topic too. I read that The HOUSE, where Debbie resides, rejected the Obama budget 414-0. I think that was Zero on Debbie’s side.

That means Debbie didn’t even vote for the Obama budget.

The question Greta didn’t ask, was, “Why Not, Debbie? Why didn’t YOU vote for it in an election year if it is the way forward?”

Debbie said that the Ryan budget is no good, and voted against Obama’s budget, so WHICH BUDGET is Debbie for? We want to see her proposals for 2013 in writing. It is the first year of the first term of the next presidency. I have only one choice right now and that is the Ryan budget.

And Harry Reid won’t bring it up for a vote, even though the Budget Act says it is his Duty.

The democrats do not want you to see the budget they want to impose in the first year of the second Obama term, and they voted against the Obama budget because it revealed too much.

Fleuries on April 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Leave your informed speculation in the comments.

– Allahpundit

You overestimate us, my friend. :-)

UltimateBob on April 4, 2012 at 10:53 AM

So, when Carney leaves his job does he immediately shower with sandpaper to remove the embedded slim picked up from exposure to the White House occupiers? Or, like a cat, will he continues to flop onto the ground in DC and roll around because it is instinctual?

sdbatboy on April 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Hmmmmmmm …
I see that someone got stuck with the Maureen Dowd short-straw last might.
(grin)

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on April 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

As much as I disagree with President Obama and his policies, it’d probably help his cause if he didn’t have a Press Secretary who wasn’t such a wimp who gets offended when a tough question is asked.

Yakko77 on April 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Tar and Feather time…
I’m serious.
Nothing else will change things.

Fartnokker on April 4, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Wimp Jay is just doing what he is told. He cannot answer the question because to do so admits his side is incompetent. I hope the “…you can fool some of the peopple some of the time …” holds true. This president and his crew are beyond comprehension. We are the dumbest electorate on the planet.

StevC on April 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM

I can’t recall his name, but a Republican Senator recently summed things up this way.

The Democrats are more nervous about the deficit than they are saying in public. The fact is that entitlements are about 60% of the budget leaving only 40% for discretionary spending on their favorite programs.

They know that they purposefully low-balled the estimated costs of Obamacare to get it passed. He thought most Democrats felt that once it was passed that the public would fall in line.

But what really happened is that Obamacare has remained unpopular with a majority of voters. In less than two years with only a tiny fraction of the law implemented, the CBO has doubled the original estimate. Typically major entitlements have run 4-10 times the estimated costs, and Obamacare will not be any different.

We are facing an economic crisis of our own making. It’s possible that with Obamacare, entitlement spending could be as hight as 80% of the revenues taken in.

Right now we are spending over a trillion dollars a year more than we take in taxes. So the ultimate cuts that will result will be on the 20% to 25% of the discrestionary funds available as well.

Additionally, the interest due on our 16 trillion dollar debt will take another large portion of those remaining funds.

They won’t say it publically, but they are at risk of losing their base because there will be no money to support grants to colleges, student loans, subsidized housing, farm subsidies, high speed rail, green energy, welfare, and the list is nearly endless.

There is more consesus behind the scenes to cut spending and reform entitlements than is generally realized. But it won’t happen until next year. Everyone is in campaign mode and there could be a new President. If so, then there is the usual chaos of transition.

The above is a paraphrase of his analysis, but I think he is probably on to something.

At some point, even a Democrat can’t deny reality.

BMF on April 4, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Very funny. I personally do not care who wins or loses. My salary and standard of living remains the same whether you have a right wing nut in the WH or a moderate politician. Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

So your political spectrum spans the gap from right wing nuts to moderates.

IOW, if you’re not a moderate you’re a right wing nut.

uppereastside of what, BTW?

Akzed on April 4, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Just another example why we are all F#@%ed! This disaster can not continue for much longer. Better start watching Doomsday Preppers and get some tips now.

dom89031 on April 4, 2012 at 8:42 PM

What you call lies is what some call fact. The republicans altered the president’s budget in a way that was unacceptable to democrats to vote for. Then again, its all politics with these politicians, republicans and democrats. Their jobs are dependent on telling you whatever you want to hear regardless of whether it’s the right thing to do or not.

Uppereastside on April 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM

And in the Senate? Don’t the Democrats control that branch? Last I checked they did, so Harry Reid could put forth anything he wanted.

But he doesn’t, because he knows he can’t get the Democrats to approve Obama’s budget. That is the answer they’re desperately avoiding. That neither party approves of the President’s spending plans, and neither party will support them.

The Republicans in the House openly votes on both Obama’s budget and Ryan’s budget; because they’re willing to openly state what they support and what they don’t.

The Democrats in the Senate aren’t willing to let people know where they stand, what they support, and what they don’t… so they avoid any votes at all so they can pretend and lie to both sides.

But I’m sure you have an answer why openly voting doesn’t show more support than avoiding a vote… I have no idea what that answer might be though.

gekkobear on April 5, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

It is impossible to believe that Reid cannot whip the Senate into line to make at least a show of approving a budget, unless in fact Obama is fully at war with his own party and the war is camouflaged behind the need for party unity.

That possibility aside, what we are left with is simply this: Obama and the Dems do not want a budget. They do not want to spell their plans out, especially in this election year, and they do not want to tie their own hands to any sort of fiscal discipline. Thanks to the budget deal last year they can do all the spending they want between now and the elections without waving any new red flags. So why bother? Let the Republicans put forth actual plans and set themselves up for criticism and demonization; it is, after all, what Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the superhuman crew do best.

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on April 9, 2012 at 1:54 AM

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