Did the Supreme Court’s initial ObamaCare vote leak to Obama?

posted at 10:19 pm on April 2, 2012 by Allahpundit

Unless he’s trying to goose a slow news day with speculation, I have no idea why Drudge is pushing the “leak” angle. There’s nothing about it in the Reuters story he links to and, as far as I saw, nothing in O’s comments today in the Rose Garden to suggest he had inside info. If he had seized on some obscure part of last week’s arguments, like the Anti-Injunction Act, then that might have been a clue that something the media had overlooked was weighing heavily inside the Court’s own deliberations and that O had gotten wind of it. But he didn’t. He gave a straightforward pitch that, unless the Court rules his way, it’s illegitimate. I expected nothing less. Neither, I’m sure, did Anthony Kennedy, who has three months to make up his mind and therefore probably isn’t a firm yes or no yet. And, if you’ve been reading liberal pundits lately, neither did you.

Speaking of which, having endured a “train wreck” and a “plane wreck” at the Supreme Court last week, Jeffrey Toobin shakes off the trauma and joins in the left’s newfound appreciation for why judicial activism is a bad thing:

For example, the Justices had no trouble upholding the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which used the [Commerce Clause] to mandate the integration of hotels and restaurants. “It may be argued that Congress could have pursued other methods to eliminate the obstructions it found in interstate commerce caused by racial discrimination,” Justice Tom C. Clark wrote, for his unanimous brethren. “But this is a matter of policy that rests entirely with the Congress, not with the courts. How obstructions in commerce may be removed—what means are to be employed—is within the sound and exclusive discretion of the Congress.” In other words, Justice Kennedy had it backward. The “heavy burden” is not on the defenders of the law but on its challengers. Acts of Congress, like the health-care law, are presumed to be constitutional, and it is—or should be—a grave and unusual step for unelected, unaccountable, life-tenured judges to overrule the work of the democratically elected branches of government

It is simply not the Supreme Court’s business to be making these kinds of judgments. The awesome, and final, powers of the Justices are best exercised sparingly and with restraint. Their normal burdens of interpreting laws are heavy enough. No one expects the Justices to be making health-care policy any more than we expect them to be picking Presidents, which, it may be remembered, is not exactly their strength, either.

Rest assured, if Obama wins reelection and replaces Scalia or Kennedy with a hardcore liberal, the revered principle of judicial deference to Congress will be power-flushed down the toilet once a Republican president and legislature are in office together again. But never mind that, and never mind the fact that he sidesteps the question of whether people who aren’t participating in commerce are reachable by the Commerce Clause. He seems to be imagining here an almost conclusory deference to Congress by the Court on all things commerce. Imagine that the Court took his advice and declared that the “heavy burden” is on the states to show why Congress doesn’t have this entirely novel power to force people to buy things. What would the states have to show to convince Justice Toobin that they’d met that burden? This is a case of first impression so there’s no direct precedent that either side can point to. What argument, then, could the states theoretically make to convince Toobin that Congress had exceeded its commerce power? I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that, like so much of the left, he thinks there is no conceptual limit on the Commerce Clause except the Bill of Rights. If you can’t show that the mandate violates, say, the Establishment Clause or the Free Exercise Clause, then you’re out of luck. But that’s absurd; the whole point of enumerated powers is to set limits on what Congress can do apart from the Bill of Rights (which, of course, wasn’t even part of the Constitution originally). Within that larger context of circumscribed federal power, when you have Congress seeking to do something that it’s never done before, why should its prerogative enjoy heavy deference and not the states’?

Here’s Mark Levin unloading on The One for his comments about the Court today. Click the image to listen.


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Of course.

Bmore on April 2, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Fifty bucks says Kagan was wearing a wire….

cynccook on April 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM

BHO referred to commentators and pundits one time too many…he was like a deflated balloon.

d1carter on April 2, 2012 at 10:24 PM

His appointees didn’t need to be judges because they are spies, not judges.

Dan_Yul on April 2, 2012 at 10:24 PM

How could he NOT KNOW!

gerrym51 on April 2, 2012 at 10:24 PM

He gave a straightforward pitch that, unless the Court rules his way, it’s illegitimate.

Well, of course. He knows no bounds and strains at any leash that would dare, dare I say, to contain his power. It just has to be illegitimate. Kennedy, IIRC, asked what was the limiting factor within this legislation, and Verrilli had no answer. Judge a man by his fruit–this fruit is a power grab and, to be denied it, Obama acts like an adolescent who just got his lollipop yanked.

ted c on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

No way Kagan didn’t tell him exactly how the vote went last Friday.

Stu Gotts on April 2, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I think it was Ginsburg.

She should really be sitting in a rocking chair in a nursing home somewhere mumbling to herself, not on the Supreme Court.

UltimateBob on April 2, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I just have to say, that pic of Obama is the most arrogant pic of anyone, anywhere, ever.

I DEFY ANYONE to find any other photo of someone with a similar amount of arrogance in their expression.

Paul-Cincy on April 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Reply to their posts…

Electrongod on April 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Does President Downgrade understand the concept of separation of powers?

“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.” Thomas Jefferson

Chip on April 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Did the Supreme Court’s initial ObamaCare vote leak to Obama?

Yes! Duh!!!

Roy Rogers on April 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Let them and their families deal with it.

Not give them a death sentence handed down by a death panel, like the Democrats want to do.

UltimateBob on April 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Fifty bucks says Kagan was wearing a wire….

cynccook on April 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Actually, it wasn’t Kagan there at all… Napolitano switched places with her. Nobody noticed. ;)

Mr. Prodigy on April 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

How are such people going to be helped when Obamacare implodes the budget?

“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.” Thomas Jefferson

Chip on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I have no idea why Drudge is pushing the “leak” angle

Really? I have no qualms about believing that the woman who helped frame the law, and who is sittig on the freaking court would leak information to him.

I’m always amused that our side assumes the democrats play by the rules.

SouthernGent on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Kagan should have recused herself, and if there is a leak, it is her. But I agree, I am not sure where Drudge is getting this.

And if this is Obama trying to sway Kennedy, I dont think this is the way to do it.

milcus on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest. Our national security in general is one step short of a joke, and something like this shouldn’t be all that hard anymore.

MelonCollie on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Seriously? Yea, that’s right. You still believe Obamacare was actually about Health Care.

VietVet_Dave on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I’m having a hard time resisting the suspicion that someone leaked the initial vote. A real hard time.

SlaveDog on April 2, 2012 at 10:30 PM

SouthernGent on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

This.

d1carter on April 2, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Errrr…uh….uh….er……uh…..er……errrr……uh…..Yes, he knows it’s going down……uh……er…..and he’s in panic mode.

Marcus on April 2, 2012 at 10:30 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Making somebody else’s kids pay for it.

Oh, wait…

Good Lt on April 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM

I doubt there was a leak. I’d say chances are that they’re just preparing for the worst case scenario and taking their cheap shots at will. Heck, it worked at the SOTU. How dare another branch of government consider itself coequal to the Oneness.

ted c on April 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Put em on a melting iceberg with the polar bears?

OkieDoc on April 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM

To believe that it has not been leaked to him is to exhibit a total lack of awareness about why Kagan and Sotomayor were placed on the Court.

Neither of them holds herself to understanding and upholding the Constitution. What is there that would lead one to believe that they would hold a few SCOTUS rules and traditions sacred?

gepaza on April 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM


liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM


BTW:

Why is President extrodiaire and mega genius Barack Hussein Downgrade[Peas be upon him] is waging a War on Liberty?

Who’s liberty? And liberty to do what? Its all so purposefully vague because the man hasn’t actually curtailed anyone’s liberty to do anything. What can’t you do now that you could do under Obama in relation to your “liberties?”

libfreeordie on April 2, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Okay, lets start with Economic Liberty – the liberty to keep what you’ve earned and not have it stolen from you to buy votes. Or the liberty of not being dependent on the government for you sustenance.

Or how about Religious Liberty?

Or Maybe the Liberty of Free-speech?

What about the Liberty of self-defense? President Downgrade had a hand in the new gun registration scheme as the result of the Fast and Furious scandal. What about that?

Is this some sort of incremental argument you’re proposing – that up and until Downgrade closes the door on these Liberties, that the are not yet truly curtailed?

Libfreeordie, do you have any response to that yet?

Chip on April 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Duh, ya think?

slickwillie2001 on April 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Behold, Barack the Malevolent….

ted c on April 2, 2012 at 10:32 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

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Who was it that said just give them a pain pill?

diogenes on April 2, 2012 at 10:32 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Sorry… you were looking for an answer and that was rude of me. They’re going to get a bunch of Eddie Munster and Paul Ryan look-alikes, some wheelchairs, and… you know the rest of the story.

VietVet_Dave on April 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

I would imagine there will be millions dying in the streets. Like when Bush was President. Got so bad, some days I had to get out of my car and move bodies before I could make it to work.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

could be a leak…but there is a simpler more natural explanation. Agitation…Propaganda.

Obama is required to do this…he is an agitator…he must show his base that he’s angry about the way the system maltreats people…he shares their anger. He is the Voice of the People.

r keller on April 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Obama to Alito and Originalists during his infamous SOTU address:

LOL I’m the President and am going to dress down your decisions on national TV! What are you gonna do about it?

Alito and Originalists to Obama: HOW YOU LIKE US NOW, BITCH?

Good Lt on April 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

What’s the penalty for leaking? It is not illegal is it..?
I know it has been the custom of the SCOTUS from the beginning but we’re talking about the King of the World.

d1carter on April 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

They’re going to get a bunch of Eddie Munster and Paul Ryan look-alikes, some wheelchairs, and… you know the rest of the story.

VietVet_Dave on April 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Crap. Yours was better than mine.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Anythings better than pain pills and death panels.

HotAirian on April 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Really? I have no qualms about believing that the woman who helped frame the law, and who is sittig on the freaking court would leak information to him.

SouthernGent on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Kagan could justify it. She has the right intentions, of course.

SlaveDog on April 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM

I’m thinking yes. And he might not be pleased with the news.

Philly on April 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

“Sometimes it’s better to just take a pain pill.” Barack Hussein Obama

Harbingeing on April 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM

I’m always amused that our side assumes the democrats play by the rules.

SouthernGent on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

And she [Kagen] was couching the idiot…
She might as well stepped down from the bench and stood by his side.

Boatload of money….

Jeez.

Electrongod on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

To amplify UltimateBob’s comment above, it seems that we could;

1. Allow people to purchase catastrophic-only coverage
2. Allow plans to be sold across state lines; this would open up lower cost coverage, in fact encouraging more people to carry more insurance.

For those who cannot obtain coverage; family, pro-bono care by health providers, and charity will have to fill the gaps.

Or, each state could design a plan to underwrite the coverage necessary.

It just shouldn’t be an unwieldy and monstrously large bill, full of obscure bureaucracy, that stifles competition, increase costs, and forces people to purchase coverages they don’t need or want.

massrighty on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

The only other time Obama lashed out at SCOTUS was when it ruled in a way he didn’t like. Maybe that’s what Drudge is alluding to.

Weight of Glory on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?
liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

They plan on getting them actual health care rather than illusory “coverage” followed by death panels.

tommyboy on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

I hesitate to comment because I assume Allah is playing 3D chess… but the possibility of a leak has been all over the comment boards today. Are Obama’s remarks really generic boilerplate? It struck a lot of people as absurdly in-your-face, along with the comic relief of a line about the “strong majority” that passed the bill in the first place.

Chriscom on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

he is an agitator…he must show his base that he’s angry about the way the system maltreats people…he shares their anger. He is the Voice of the People.

r keller on April 2, 2012 at 10:34 PM

I was watching Hannity where he played a speech of him on March 30th. He was stuttering and becoming break-voiced and red faced with rage. It’s gonna get a lot more fun.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

To quote someone I konw you loathe: “There you go again”.

So, because there are sick people in the country, there is a requirement that everyone else pick up their tab?!?

Bitter Clinger on April 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

And what was Odumbo’s plan for dealing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions??? Just because you have health coverage, doesn’t mean your going to get health care.

opustx on April 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Reply to their posts…

Electrongod on April 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Thanks now I have to get something to clean off my monitor

gophergirl on April 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

.
What do mean “doing with?” What would Democrats plan on “doing with” them? You act like there is some kind of soylent green program… unless Democrats DO have a soylent green program they haven’t revealed yet.

ExpressoBold on April 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

…you always have the questions…we’ll have them talk to you. They have had those questions since the confiscation was passed 2 years ago.

KOOLAID2 on April 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

I have both-and have NEVER had insurance refuse to cover them.
Next.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM

massrighty on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Why would you answer an idiot with anything other than an inanity? Come on, massrighty. You know better than that.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM

milcus on April 2, 2012 at 10:29 PM

If anyone outside government has a source, it would be Matthew.

wolfsDad on April 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Look libs, this can only go on for so long. This person acts as he pleases, as if he has no boundaries, nothing that can legitimately tell him “no.” Liberty has had enough with this getting kicked around bit and she’s about ready to kick back. Mr. O has to realize that this is a two way street and we’ve had about enough of his schtick, that’s just all there is too it. If SCOTUS dumps him on his head, well, take a pause and aske yourself how you got here.

ted c on April 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

… Anthony Kennedy, who has three months to make up his mind and therefore probably isn’t a firm yes or no yet.

You forgot the sarc tag, right AP?

The justices had made up their minds before oral arguments … at least, that’s what Kagan tells me. ;-)

ShainS on April 2, 2012 at 10:40 PM

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

LOL. The HotAir punching bag.

Cleombrotus on April 2, 2012 at 10:40 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Kill them in the womb.

SouthernGent on April 2, 2012 at 10:40 PM

gophergirl on April 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM

:)

But dang…..
Some are so narrow minded..

It’s amazing our species hasn’t went extinct eons ago when you listen to them…

Electrongod on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Let them and their families deal with it.

UltimateBob on April 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

That’s your plan? “Let them die”?

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

I would imagine there will be millions dying in the streets. Like when Bush was President. Got so bad, some days I had to get out of my car and move bodies before I could make it to work.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Heh. I remember when Clinton cured homelessness, only to have it come roaring back during GWBush.

Millions living in boxes, right up until January 1993. Then, all gone. No mention ever of any homeless person. They reappeared, as if by some media magic, in January of 2001.

Not to worry; they seem to be gone again (at least since January 2009.)

I have a hunch they’ll be back….

massrighty on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25

Nothing. Healthcare is not a right.

Doomsday on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

Uh the same thing they did prior to 2 years ago. Every state has high risk insurance pools.

although Obama touts this stuff the real goal of Obamacare was getting everybody coverd with insurance with government subsidies.

He could have just subsidised the high risk pools more.

gerrym51 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

And she [Kagen] was couching the idiot…

Electrongod on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Hmm…

SlaveDog on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

The only thing standing between us and communism is the Supreme Court.

I’ve never been so scared for my country in my life.

KMC1 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Something that gives them a better chance at life than the liberal death panel bureaucrats will, I assure you.

Midas on April 2, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Did the Supreme Court pee on Barry?

galtani on April 2, 2012 at 10:42 PM

it is—or should be—a grave and unusual step for unelected, unaccountable, life-tenured judges to overrule the work of the democratically elected branches of government

Am I dreaming? I thought it was only hard-right pro-life conservatives who spoke this way about the Supreme Court due to Roe v. Wade?

Of all things I thought I’d see Obama and his minions do, it was not to attack the institution of the Supreme Court. This is simply mind-boggling partisan warfare, which I think may mean that they know the ACA is going to be defeated 5-4.

I’m figuratively speechless.

Seixon on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

this is the reason that kagan didn’t recuse so she could leak it to obama. If she dropped out she may not know. Obama knows and he knows it bad. Not much of a poker face.

rik on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

That’s your plan? “Let them die”?

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Sure. The sick should die. Make way for the strong.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

If you are already sick…then its not insurance. It’s welfare.

Spliff Menendez on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

The Constitution is a living, breathing document, meant to reflect the changing values of society.

70% of Americans are against the individual mandate, therefore, even if it is constitutional, the court should rule it unconstitutional because that reflects the current values of American society.

Right, liberals?

jaime on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Nothing. Healthcare is not a right.

Doomsday on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Sell that to the American people.

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

If there’s any leaking going on from the Court…I’m willing to bet…it’s not a guy!

KOOLAID2 on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

“I have no idea why Drudge is pushing the “leak” angle.”

Really? You have no idea why Drudge or anyone else would wonder if Obama had a hint of what the preliminary decision was?

Why is it such a stretch to speculate this? Who knows if it actually happened, but you can’t say that this administration wouldn’t stoop to this.

EMD on April 2, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I DEFY ANYONE to find any other photo of someone with a similar amount of arrogance in their expression.

Paul-Cincy on April 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

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Here’s a pretty good one.

ExpressoBold on April 2, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Tell me again why Kagan didn’t recuse herself – and why she wasn’t asked by Roberts to do so once she exhibited an irrefutable lack of integrity to do so herself? And why aren’t there at least a dozen processes underway from Congress to impeach her?

Midas on April 2, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Sure. The sick should die. Make way for the strong.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

From your mouth to Mitt’s ears!

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:44 PM

ted c on April 2, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Easy Hoss. Everyone knows you have to shoot liberals in the head to put them out of our misery.

Roy Rogers on April 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Obama showed his cards, he was told the bad news and is having a meltdown

Conservative4ev on April 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Sell that to the American people.

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Man, you are an idiot.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Sell that to the American people.

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

You mean the 47%, right?

Cleombrotus on April 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM

That’s your plan? “Let them die”?

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Reading comprehension FAIL.

Please go back and read my post slowly and carefully. Really, it’s not that hard to do.

I never said “Let them die”, a direct quote that you incorrectly and dishonestly attribute to me.

Dealing with a problem is not the same as letting someone die. Families have, for centuries (perhaps millennia) , found ways of caring for sick family members without passing 3000 page laws that just burden society with problems that they don’t want to deal with.

retard.

UltimateBob on April 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Easy Hoss. Everyone knows you have to shoot liberals in the head to put them out of our misery.

Roy Rogers on April 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Heh. Where do I sign up?

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I have both-and have NEVER had insurance refuse to cover them.
Next.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Ditto…
I had to pay 20% more but was never denied for my daughter.
Now I will say..
That I had to send a strongly worded letter to the State Insurance Commissioner..(Montana)…but 1 week after that….
My daughter’s operation was covered…
She was refused before she was accepted…

Just that the refusal is cataloged by the left….
Never the outcome..

Electrongod on April 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM

The only thing standing between us and communism is the Supreme Court.

I’ve never been so scared for my country in my life.

KMC1 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

I’m not scared; I’m not even mourning much anymore. The country you are scared for is already gone, I’m afraid.

Midas on April 2, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Yes

carbon_footprint on April 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

This red herring has been chased away in so many posts that it’s laughable.

These things can be easily handled without the government controlling 1/5th of the economy and giving unlimited enumerated powers to the federal government.

And THAT is what the Supreme Court case is about.

itsspideyman on April 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

hurl..I am about done. Politics.

bazil9 on April 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Sell that to the American people.

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Water and electricity are more important to life than healthcare. Why in the hell should I be expected to pay for it?

Ill start sending my bills to you to pay. Since you are so generous.

Spliff Menendez on April 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

That’s your plan? “Let them die”?

cjw79 on April 2, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Not what he wrote.
Not what he meant.

Nice try, though.

massrighty on April 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I’m not scared; I’m not even mourning much anymore. The country you are scared for is already gone, I’m afraid.

Midas on April 2, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I’m inclined to agree.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Fifty bucks says Kagan was wearing a wire….

cynccook on April 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Another fifty says she’s also wearing boxers, a wife-beater, and a really sturdy pair of black wingtips under the robe.

M240H on April 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM

What do Republicans plan on doing with people with chronic illness and pre-existing conditions?

liberal4life on April 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Silly. We’re gonna stomp on them and then eat them. You know that.

SagebrushPuppet on April 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I was watching Hannity where he played a speech of him on March 30th. He was stuttering and becoming break-voiced and red faced with rage. It’s gonna get a lot more fun.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:36 PM

He said in one of his crappy books that there is a rage inside of him that he works hard to suppress.

Romney needs to figure out how to push his buttons. We need the people to see what a POS little Bammie really is. Strip away the mask.

slickwillie2001 on April 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Fifty bucks says Kagan was wearing a wire….

cynccook on April 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Tucks it under one of her chins…

slickwillie2001 on April 2, 2012 at 10:50 PM

hurl..I am about done. Politics.

bazil9 on April 2, 2012 at 10:48 PM

No. Just take a break. But be back in an hour.

Lanceman on April 2, 2012 at 10:50 PM

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