Wisconsin Republicans more focused on Walker’s recall election than the presidential primary

posted at 1:45 pm on March 30, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The Wisconsin Government Accountability Board has officially scheduled the recall election of Republican Gov. Scott Walker for June 5. The Democratic primary will be May 8.

The same NBC/Marist poll that showed Mitt Romney with a seven-point lead in the GOP presidential primary also revealed that Wisconsin Republicans are more attuned to the recall effort against Governor Walker than to the GOP presidential race. By a margin of 51 percent to 37 percent, Republicans in the state said they’re more interested in Walker’s fate than, say, Romney’s.

That is as it should be. What happens nearer to home is felt more deeply and is also more actionable than what happens far away.

When Scott Walker introduced his controversial curbs to the collective bargaining power of public employee unions, he framed them as a part of his broader effort to balance the budget and, indeed, that was what they were. By asking public employees to make slightly higher contributions to their own health and pension plans and by limiting the benefits union leaders could extort out of government, he opened up a significant new source of savings and gave local officials greater flexibility to live within their own means. Walker campaigned on a promise to balance the budget without raising taxes — and the budget he signed in 2011 was, indeed, a balanced budget.

The way in which he kept his promise has ramifications beyond the budget, though. By choosing to address union abuses, Walker restored some measure of public employee and taxpayer freedom. Wisconsin public school teachers no longer are forced to pay union dues. Taxpayers are no longer forced to subsidize the demands of public employee union leaders.

Walker’s most significant contribution to the conservative movement might very well be the way he reopened the question: Should public employee unions have collective bargaining privileges at all? He made it possible to argue the answer is “no.” After all, collective bargaining between the government and, er, the government is a very different proposition than collective bargaining between management and laborers, as Union Watch has so eloquently explained:

Whether or not you agree with unions in the private sector, the justification for unionizing government workers rests on very different, and far more debatable assumptions. The purpose of government is to provide services to citizens as efficiently and equitably as possible. The purpose of unions is to extract as much money and benefits to their members as possible, as well as to acquire more members. These two purposes are intrinsically in opposition. In the private sector, unions oppose management, and union demands are mitigated by the fact that private companies must compete for customers and must therefore operate efficiently. In the public sector, unions are essentially opposing taxpayers, and the efficiency and the expense of government is not checked by market forces because the government is a monopoly with the power to force citizens to pay taxes.

Wisconsin taxpayers not only stand to benefit by the solidification of Walker’s reforms, but they also have the opportunity to send a statement to the rest of the country that sound public policy trumps dirty politics. Do Wisconsin voters value freedom and fiscal responsibility more than they value government benefits and collective bargaining privileges for government employees? That’s what we’ll find out June 5.


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The primary ended in Florida.

hanzblinx on March 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I am glad and somewhat relieved to see at least some modicum of the GOP doing something right for a change.

FlatFoot on March 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Wisconsin will prove this year if insanity, or sanity prevail in the land.

Pivots are very precarious.

The U.S. people will display their true colors this year. In fact, they already have.

Schadenfreude on March 30, 2012 at 1:48 PM

For the mentally impaired, I did not mean skin color.

Schadenfreude on March 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Even if Walker is recalled, his reforms will not be turned back. The WI house/senate is still Republican and IIRC only 1/2 the legislature is up for re-election every 2 years which means it would be 2014 at the earlies when a Dem gov could have a dem house and senate to undo the Walker reforms.

angryed on March 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

And why not? We’ve already lost the presidential election.

…but the chance to keep Walker in, and then walk around town laughing at all the Recall Walker stickers and smiling like an idiot at all the glowering liberals is enough to make up for it.

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM

For the mentally impaired, I did not mean skin color.

Schadenfreude on March 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

The mentally impaired do not like being associated with liberals. Please apologize ASAP.

angryed on March 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Everyone send Walker $10 or more if you can afford it.

[Aside: I donated yesterday, and AmEx flagged my card for potential fraud as a result.]

stvnscott on March 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

The Wisconsin GOP should be figuring out how to apologize to the nation for Wisconsin itself, maybe also offering to sell the state to Cambodia or something.

Bishop on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Even if Walker is recalled, his reforms will not be turned back. The WI house/senate is still Republican and IIRC only 1/2 the legislature is up for re-election every 2 years which means it would be 2014 at the earlies when a Dem gov could have a dem house and senate to undo the Walker reforms.

angryed on March 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

…thank goodness! By then the reforms sould be affecting their local economy more…and the growth of their braincells.

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Ohio and Wisconsin are two states Willard will lose.

The republican governors managed to pick the wrong fight, now Willard has no choice but to endorse the union hating policies in the general.

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

I will refrain from commenting on the subject of this post until blue gills deems this story to be worthy of commenting on.

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

The Wisconsin GOP should be figuring out how to apologize to the nation for Wisconsin itself, maybe also offering to sell the state to Cambodia or something.

Bishop on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

So…how is Dayton doing?

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Good.

David Blue on March 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM

…(when are we going to get a link to ‘hot links’…on the right of this page?…or is that out of the question?)

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Bishop on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

ooo..snap…

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM

oooo..double snap…

gah!!

BigWyo on March 30, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Wisconsin Republicans are more attuned to the recall effort against Governor Walker than to the GOP presidential race. By a margin of 51 percent to 37 percent, Republicans in the state said they’re more interested in Walker’s fate than, say, Romney’s.

This falls into the category of DUH. They should be focused on Governor Walker. But let’s be clear (and I’ll type slowly so Tina and others can follow along): the same holds true of Santorum. They’re focused on Walker, not Santorum. So the unnecessary anti-Romney spin to this is ridiculous.

cicerone on March 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM

If Walker is recalled, Mitt should offer him the Veep slot. I’d prefer him at the top of the ticket, but I’ll take what I can get.

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2012 at 2:00 PM

The primary ended in Florida.

hanzblinx on March 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Yeah, so did the general. Obama won.

Buckshot Bill on March 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Ohio and Wisconsin are two states Willard will lose.

The republican governors managed to pick the wrong fight, now Willard has no choice but to endorse the union hating policies in the general.

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Funny you didn’t mention Indiana. I live in Ohio so I know it’s up for grabs. But the union law has nothing to do with it. The unions are quite proud of themselves for rolling it back via referendum.

Bitter Clinger on March 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Ohio and Wisconsin are two states Willard will lose.

The republican governors managed to pick the wrong fight, now Willard has no choice but to endorse the union hating policies in the general.

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

…boy! …Ed Rollins must feel threatened after reading your posts! I heard George Will has to wear depends after hearing about you.

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM

I will refrain from commenting on the subject of this post until blue gills deems this story to be worthy of commenting on.

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

….it’s ‘catch’ and ‘release’ only, with your fishing license?

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

By a margin of 51 percent to 37 percent, Republicans in the state said they’re more interested in Walker’s fate than, say, Romney’s.

How about this?

By a margin of 51 percent to 37 percent, Republicans in the state said they’re more interested in Walker’s fate than, say, Santorum’s.

LOL!!!!

Gunlock Bill on March 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Oh Lord, Please bless us with another JoAnne Kloppenburg moment that lasts for a while…

Funniest clip I ever saw at 1:40

Roy Rogers on March 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Even if Walker is recalled, his reforms will not be turned back. The WI house/senate is still Republican and IIRC only 1/2 the legislature is up for re-election every 2 years which means it would be 2014 at the earlies when a Dem gov could have a dem house and senate to undo the Walker reforms.

angryed on March 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Not exactly true. Since the WI State Senate recall elections, which reduced Republicans to a 1-seat majority, one Republican Senator has resigned, leaving the WI Senate half Republican and half Democrat. If the resigning Senator is replaced by a Democrat, Democrats would control the Senate until the next legislative election, which could result in a Democrat state House after the 2012 election.

Steve Z on March 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

…(when are we going to get a link to ‘hot links’…on the right of this page?…or is that out of the question?)

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Not sure. Haven’t had any time this week even to write articles. Workin’ on it, though!

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I will vote in the Tuesday R-Primary and local elections, and I suspect Republican turnout will be huge. We know the Liberunts are planning to vote in the Primary for whom they deem most unelectable- which seems to be Santorum in their minds.

We will return the favor in May in the D-Primary for Governor.

M240H on March 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

I’m amazed the good people of Wisconsin have put up with this nonsense for as long as they have, that has to be a reason why Walker is WINNING this ridiculous attempt to oust him.

If Walker ends up winning, I see Romney taking the state as well.

BradTank on March 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Unions in all markets are unnecessary and should be banned. It is extortion pure and simple.

rjulio on March 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Linked: ‘The War on Wisconsin’

Donald Douglas on March 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

I’m with Wisconsin GOP on that. Walker will continue receiving my out-of-state money, whereas Romney will have to stick with my vote.

I do agree that if Walker loses the recall, Romney could do no better than offering him a VP slot. It should instantly guarantee him the support of every fiscal conservative whose brain isn’t addled by alcohol, inbreeding, or water pollutants. It will also put Democrats on their heels in Ohio, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and other union-riddled states. Remember: union goons will show up to the booths anyways, but their opponents need a good reason.

Archivarix on March 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Even if Walker is recalled, his reforms will not be turned back. The WI house/senate is still Republican and IIRC only 1/2 the legislature is up for re-election every 2 years which means it would be 2014 at the earlies when a Dem gov could have a dem house and senate to undo the Walker reforms.

angryed on March 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Not exactly true. Since the WI State Senate recall elections, which reduced Republicans to a 1-seat majority, one Republican Senator has resigned, leaving the WI Senate half Republican and half Democrat. If the resigning Senator is replaced by a Democrat, Democrats would control the Senate until the next legislative election, which could result in a Democrat state House after the 2012 election.

Steve Z on March 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Still not QUITE true. You see, there are also 4 R senate seats that are going thru recall. Since the senate is now 50-50, even if Walker wins, if even one of the senate recalls goes D that will give the senate control to the D’s. While the focus of the nation appears to be on Walker’s recall, the efforts of our gallant R senators going through recall effort after recall effort (we had this last summer also, remember?) is also of major importance. The senators that went through recall elections last summer were ones that had been in for a year or more; the ones that are being attacked now are ones that were not able to be recalled in the last recall (since they weren’t in for a year yet).

Wisconsin is gasping for survival right now. We are worn out with elections and recall elections. The drain on the state finances is enormous. But the drain on those of us in this state… is just as bad.

It is also frightening to think of this recall in the light of the fact that our R congress/governor had signed into law voter ID that has now (thanks to liberal courts) been stopped so that it is NOT in effect for the recalls. Add to that, that the redistricting that the R’s did that was SUPPOSED to be in effect for the recalls were also turned back by liberal judges.

This nation is no longer being ruled by “We, the people”; nor is it ruled by the triple congress, white house, judicial. It is now in the hands of the judicial. Votes are overturned by liberal judges. Congress is overturned by judges. All that matter anymore are the courts it seems. And the fact that there are more liberal judges nationwide than conservatives ones are going to hurt us more than we ever imagined in the past.

PackerFan4Life on March 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Um, really, Steveegg should be doing these things.

Lanceman on March 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM

They should be more concerned about Walker – his recall will have far more impact on the future of the state and even the nation than one of 55 nomination contests will anyway.

Romney’s camp started pushing the math argument after Super Tuesday, but it wasn’t a lock. Then we had six more contests: Kansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Puerto Rico, Louisiana, and Illinois. Santorum won four of them – and Romney expanded his delegate lead. That proved it was, in fact, over.

Adjoran on March 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

This nation is no longer being ruled by “We, the people”; nor is it ruled by the triple congress, white house, judicial. It is now in the hands of the judicial. Votes are overturned by liberal judges. Congress is overturned by judges. All that matter anymore are the courts it seems. And the fact that there are more liberal judges nationwide than conservatives ones are going to hurt us more than we ever imagined in the past.

PackerFan4Life on March 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I thought Republicans have a majority in Wisconsin SC? Wasn’t that what Prosser victory was about?

Archivarix on March 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

I thought Republicans have a majority in Wisconsin SC? Wasn’t that what Prosser victory was about?

Archivarix on March 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

That’s the state supreme court. Of course the chief justice is a far far left liberal. But the problem in the courts is down to the roots. The decisions regarding the redistricting and the voter ID were not done by the state supreme court, but by lower courts. And there is no time to go up through the courts prior to the recall elections.

As for Prosser in the state supreme court… while Prosser is considered a conservative he is- like Roberts- a judge who judges solely by the rule of law without regard to any political party. That means he sometimes votes with conservatives and sometimes against. The big advantage of him over his opponent in the prior election (seems so long ago, so many elections ago now) was that his opponent was a “sure thing” for the libs, compared to his “maybe” for them. Seems the really good judges vote either way regardless of party; which means neither side can depend on them being on their side all the time. However, the lib judges are “rubber stamps” for the libs….

PackerFan4Life on March 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

@Archivarix Yes, but that’s the Supreme Court. The lower courts namely ultraliberal Dane County Court (read Madison) routinely rule against anything meaningful Walker tries to do. It takes time to make it to the Supreme Court and they are able to delay redistricting and voter ID reforms until after elections.

As an aside, a friend of a friend of mine, Dr. Pam Galloway, was a State Senator but had to resign for family health reasons. It can’t help that the unions completely demonized her personally and that she is subject to recall only 2 years after her first election. Dr. Galloway is a respected breast cancer surgeon in Wausau and doesn’t deserve the beating she’s taken for honestly trying to solve our problems. As a result of her resignation, the Reps no longer have a majority in the Senate. We are experiencing mob rule here in Wisconsin.

The hatred is palpable, but the hope is real. Did you know that Paul Clement is from Wisconsin too? With Clement, Ryan and Walker, all of a sudden Wisconsin seems like the breeding ground for the next generation of informed, honest and fearless conservative leaders.

xuyee on March 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

The Democrats are becoming an embarrassment to the country. THeir behavior, in Wisconsin, is child-like. When Obama won, in 2008, their favorite thing was, “We won, you lost, deal with it.” Then 2010 happened and they’ve been pulling every trick in the book, misusing the law in some ways they were never intended to be used, trying to get their power back. If they were a coherent bunch, they’d be ashamed of themselves, but they’re not.

I sincerely hope the Wisconsin voters send a message to politicians around the country that, if you make the tough decisions we elected you to make, we’ll support you. That would go a long way to getting the Republican establishment in Washington D.C. off their butts and doing the right thing there too.

bflat879 on March 30, 2012 at 3:02 PM

For you out-of-staters, there are 2 cases against the voter ID law; both have gone to the WI SC.

#One says it’s unconstitutional. The judge who made the ruling wrote comedy, not a legal ruling. Really…he listed SC Justice William Scalia’s work. WTH is WILLIAM Scalia? He quoted the wrong amendment. The work is shoddy and will be overturned.

#Two put it against the WI constitution. This is trickier because the right to vote is guaranteed to all WI residents, age 18 & up, except felons & the incompetent. The suit says that this law makes a 3rd class of non-voters: those without ID. The interesting thing is that the WI Bill of RIghts has a number of interesting other rights – #25 right to own a gun for defense, security, hunting and personal use. #26 right to fish and hunt.

Both of those rights, in the WI Bill of Rights require a WI ID… and a fee, and maybe a class (for those born after a certain date). The precedent exists for people to prove their identity to exercise a right.

Daisy_WI on March 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

If the primary was more contentious I’d expect they’d be more interested but I think that retaining Walker in the governor’s seat along with Republican control of the WI Senate are much much more important–and crucial–right now.

stukinIL4now on March 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

BREAKING NEWS… one more example of how the liberal courts are doing their part to destroy Wisconsin. Court throws out part of the collective bargaining law that saved Wisconsin:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/145205055.html

PackerFan4Life on March 30, 2012 at 4:02 PM

I saw more “We Support Gov. Walker” signs in NW Wisconsin this past weekend than “Recall Walker” signs. The two recall signs were hand painted, and appeared to be the work of the same person. This was in Spooner. All the support signs were large and professionally printed.

Don’t judge Wisconsin by the People’s Republic of Madison.

Ygritte on March 30, 2012 at 4:42 PM

OK control of the state Senate

Pam Galloway resigned. The sentate is now 16-16 R-D. The sentate is currently out of session. There are 4 senators up for recall election, most are unlikely to be recalled.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/diary/8405/wisconsin-presidential-results-by-state-senate-district

………………..age \ first elected \ Margin \ Obama \ McCain \ Kerry \ Bush
Scott L. Fitzgerald 47 \ 1994 \ 38.4% \ 48% \ 51% \ 41% \ 59%
Van H. Wanggaard 58 \ 2010 \ 5.1% \ 55% \ 43% \ 50% \ 49%
Terry Moulton 64 \ 2010 \ 8.5% \ 55% \ 43% \ 49% \ 50%
Pam Galloway 55 \ 2010 \ 4.6% \ 53% \ 45% \ 46% \ 53%

But you have to throw in Randy Hopper’s seat from last election – He was recalled after his wife filed for divorce. In a letter to Milwaukee television station WTMJ, Hopper’s estranged wife Alysia wrote: “It is correct that my husband, Randy Hopper, started an affair in January 2010 with a then-25-year-old Republican aide. This affair has caused great emotional pain for my children and me. Randy moved out, without attempting marital counseling, as of May 2010 and now lives mostly in Madison.

She signed the recall petiton against him…

His seat will likely be taken back

Randy Hopper 45 \ 2008 \ 0.2% \ 51% \ 47% \ 42% \ 57%

Jim Holperin (D) in 12 is a target
Dan Kapanke (R) in 32 is within reach
Alberta Darling (R) 8 just survived a recall – so I think she’s safe.

I think the senate will stay R by one vote…

Green_Bay_Packers on March 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Scott Walker is an American Hero. If anyone deserves our respect, our effort, or money if needed, it’s this guy. The MOST corrosive part of the Far Left are Municipal Labor Unions, this hero took them on. We have to stand up for him.

AYNBLAND on March 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

The mentally impaired do not like being associated with liberals. Please apologize ASAP.

angryed on March 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Everyone send Walker $10 or more if you can afford it.

[Aside: I donated yesterday, and AmEx flagged my card for potential fraud as a result.]

stvnscott on March 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Are you from Wisconson? If not, that’s probably why.

Asurea on March 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM

The Assembly -

Currently the mix is 59 R 1 I vs 39 D

There would have to be an 11 vote swing in voting memebers.
That would give 50 votes to the D.

The Assembly has had one democratic majority in the last 10 years (after the 2008 obama election). They had a 2 vote margin.

They AREN’T going to win the Assembly. There has NEVER to my knowledge been a 11 vote swing in party affilitaion in the state assembly.

Green_Bay_Packers on March 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Wisconsin taxpayers not only stand to benefit by the solidification of Walker’s reforms, but they also have the opportunity to send a statement to the rest of the country that sound public policy trumps dirty politics

Miss Tina- You owe me a new keyboard. That was so funny.

Uppereastside on March 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM

I saw more “We Support Gov. Walker” signs in NW Wisconsin this past weekend than “Recall Walker” signs. The two recall signs were hand painted, and appeared to be the work of the same person. This was in Spooner. All the support signs were large and professionally printed.

Don’t judge Wisconsin by the People’s Republic of Madison.

Ygritte on March 30, 2012 at 4:42 PM

I’m not in the P.R. of Madison. I’m in Packer Country. But I live in a strong paper mill area where the mill workers are standing “in solidarity” with the people they THINK are their “brothers” in the public employee unions. They are absolutely RABID in my neighborhood against Walker. I have one neighbor who put up a “we stand with Walker” sign and, honestly, I fear for his life. I know another Walker supporter who has signs supporting him… inside their garage so that nobody sees them except those who they trust. The pro-Walker people (generally) are sensible people. The anti-Walker people (generally) act like mafia members on steroids or something.

Speaking, though, of the P.R. of Madison. I’ve always wondered why there is no law stating that college students must vote absentee ballot in the area they are from. I don’t understand all these out of state college students voting in Wisconsin. Not counting probably voting absentee in their own states.

PackerFan4Life on March 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM

The govenorship

- The opponents Falk and Barnett are AWFUL.. AAAWWWFFUULLL

Barnett isn’t liked by some of the union folk because he used act 10 to save money in the Milwaukee budget.

Falk rasied taxes Umpteen million dollars in Dane county. This will be hammered home in MULTIPLE radio ads AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

Scott Walker meanwhile will have job growth, low unemployment and property taxes that haven’t gone up to run on…

Green_Bay_Packers on March 30, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Speaking, though, of the P.R. of Madison. I’ve always wondered why there is no law stating that college students must vote absentee ballot in the area they are from. I don’t understand all these out of state college students voting in Wisconsin. Not counting probably voting absentee in their own states.

The recall election will be held when they’re still out of school… HE HE HE

Green_Bay_Packers on March 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

The recall election will be held when they’re still out of school… HE HE HE

Green_Bay_Packers on March 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Hadn’t thought of that bright point. Sure hope they aren’t going to try to vote “absentee”. Wouldn’t put it past them. Now that voter I.D. is temporarily on hold, watch for the dead to vote D once again! Isn’t it amazing how once you die you automatically change to a D and vote D?

PackerFan4Life on March 30, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Wisconsin collective bargaining
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Federal court strikes down parts of Wisconsin’s collective bargaining law – @WiStateJournalStory

Submitted 2 hours ago from host.madison.com
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Wisconsin Assembly passes budget bill 60-38 just after 3 a.m. on an essentially party-line vote

http://t.co/cBJlDbEStory
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/wisconsin-collective-bargaining
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canopfor on March 30, 2012 at 6:45 PM

There is less tolerance for big labor this year. That carries over to the primary where the big labor guy is down seven.

burt on March 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM