Only in California: suing to get children and adults together in the buff

posted at 12:30 pm on March 30, 2012 by John Hawkins

It’s hard to believe that there are actually parents who want their children to be walking at eye level with hundreds of naked, adult crotches, but then again, California has always attracted a lot of weirdos.

Desert Sun Resort owners and Orange County residents John and Elizabeth Young filed a lawsuit March 16 in Orange County Superior Court against 500 unnamed defendants asking a judge to rule that the resort’s policy against children does not violate state law.

KNX 1070′s Margaret Carrero reports the couple were dumbfounded when they received a letter last month seeking penalties and damages over their policy against allowing kids on their property.

…The lawsuit was filed in response to a letter the Youngs received Feb. 17 from Palm Springs attorney David Baron — written on behalf of “certain individuals” — which threatened legal action against the clothing-optional resort “for maintaining and enforcing a No Children Allowed Policy and a Couples-Only Day Pass Policy”.

“The first three years of business we allowed children, and we really felt that there was some kind of liability for a child being on property and maybe being photographed or worse,” Elizabeth Young said.

Baron disagrees and insists the policy is a “clear case of discrimination” fueled more by money than by protecting kids from pedophiles.

…She said the resort, which has 32 hotel rooms and 59 condominiums on six acres, gets more than 10,000 visitors a year from around the world, and 40 percent of them are first-time visitors. She said she cannot guarantee that every guest has good intentions toward children.

The resort prohibits public sexual behavior and the use of cameras, cell phones and laptops throughout most of the premises, but “violations do occur,” Young said.

Welcome to Obama’s America where you have a “right” to live in a tent in a city park as long as you call it protesting, free contraception, and where children may yet have the “right” to see men’s junk swinging in the ocean breeze in California.

This does seem extraordinarily silly, but on the other hand, it could turn out to be a bonanza for trial lawyers. After all, if this works, think of all the other adult activities they could sue to get children involved in. Strip clubs seems like a natural fit and hey, aren’t dating services discriminating against children by not allowing them to participate? How about ABC stores? Why can’t your kid buy a bottle to vodka to carry with her as she takes a nude stroll on the beach to unwind from a tough day of finger painting? Who could even oppose it at this point without engaging in — that’s right, you guessed it — a war on children.

John Hawkins is a professional writer who runs Right Wing News and Linkiest. He’s also the co-owner of the The Looking Spoon. You can read more from John Hawkins on Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, G+, You Tube, & at Pajamas Media.


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I have two opinions here; so to be fair I’ll give both of them and offend everyone.

First, I don’t care about “naturalists” and if they want their kids hanging around in a resort where everyone is naked… I don’t think we get to override them and ban that. It may be distasteful, but isn’t illegal. At least not where I live. If it’s illegal where you live, that’s different.

Have I offended the “prudes”? Good, now for the other side.

Second, the business and property owners made these limitations and restrictions. If you want a business that operates differently, GO OPEN ONE YOURSELF! They’re not breaking any laws saying no kids allowed.

Deciding you get to tell property owners who can be on their property, and that you get to tell business owners all the details of running their business is being a dictator deciding your whim overrules the rights and freedoms of others.

I think that covers everyone.

gekkobear on March 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Is it as crazy as they say it is?

SparkPlug on March 30, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Worse…

… except for the weather.

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Most folks who like walking around nekkid—SHOULDN’T!

Sekhmet on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

If only California had tort reform like Texas…….if only the entire country had tort reform like Texas.

So is California now ground zero for pedophiles suing for access to naked children?

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Most folks who like walking around nekkid—SHOULDN’T!

Sekhmet on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Truer words never spoken…and all that.

So is California now ground zero for pedophiles…

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Always has been, for the USA anyway.

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I can think of at least one host family in the US that wanted to take his boys down to the local bathhouse, aka the Penn State locker room.

Just sayin’

MNHawk on March 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM

So is California now ground zero for pedophiles suing for access to naked children?

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

In the short run, yes.

In the long run, they want to redefine the legal definitions of “consenting” and “adult.” Then they can do whatever they want without any specific lawsuits being necessary for their perversions.

TugboatPhil on March 30, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Hahahahha. you are obsessed with bashing Mormons whenever you can. give it up.

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 1:28 PM

I’m sorry, but pedophelia is the worst crime committed by anyone. It totally destroys the victim and the really bad thing is that it’s passed from generation to generation. The victim of childhood sexaul abuse is affected 100% of the time. I have more respect for a hit man from the mob than I have for a pedophile…and here you are advocating for the filthy perverts.

Portia46 on March 30, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I disagree. States have the authority to ban nudist resorts entirely if they wish. It is strictly a political issue, not a rights issue.

Regardless, in this particular case it is the government causing problems. But if the resort allowed nude children and someone decided to sue them because they thought a child was wronged in someway, how does that involve the government? Wouldn’t tort reform that bans frivolous lawsuits actually involve more government?

NotCoach on March 30, 2012 at 1:44 PM

If we wanted to ban them, I would not care one way or the other. I am not a strict libertarian. However, that is not what is happening.

People can only sue under the laws the government has written. Every lawsuit ever filed is based on what the government has done. Being able to sue the resort because someone at the resort snuck in a camera and took a picture of your naked kid has to be based in the laws the government has written that have somehow made the resort responsible.

More than that, the way the child endangerment and anti-child pornography laws are written, the resort is right to be concerned the government itself will hold them responsible.

First they are forced to admit children, and then they are shut down for endangering children.

Yes, that is tyrannical.

fadetogray on March 30, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I agree with bluegill that nudity and sex are not the same thing, and I also agree with TexasDan that modesty isn’t the same thing as prudishness.

I’d also like to say that we should come up with another name for genitalia besides “junk.” Our reproductive organs are not trash.

bmmg39 on March 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Why can’t your kid buy a bottle to vodka to carry with her as she takes a nude stroll on the beach to unwind from a tough day of finger painting?

LMAO……it truly is grand living in lib-tard central. Overpaid stateworkers, unsustainable state pensions, insanely high taxes, budget disasters, unheard of graft, race-riots, CARB requirements, Bullet-trains to nowhere, and a truly uneducated, highly-partisan, racialist group of pandering Dems that passes for a governance structure…..

nice weather though.

Tim_CA on March 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I’d also like to say that we should come up with another name for genitalia besides “junk.” Our reproductive organs are not trash.

bmmg39 on March 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Compared to the beauty that is the female body. The male sex organ is a cobbled together afterthought, therefore junk.

It shows that there is a God though. Only some being that wise could do something non-visual to make males attractive to females of the human species.

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

The male and female bodies have the equal potential to be beautiful. People like to perpetuate this silliness that women are not visual creatures.

bmmg39 on March 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

It shows that there is a God though. Only some being that wise could do something non-visual to make males attractive to females of the human species.

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Actually, the female attraction to the male is perfectly natural. What is bizarre is how we males are attracted to small, weak, slow mates with whiny voices. How can that be good genetic material for our offspring?

fadetogray on March 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

What is bizarre is how we males are attracted to small, weak, slow mates with whiny voices. How can that be good genetic material for our offspring?

fadetogray on March 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Easier to overpower and catch. As far as the whiny voice goes just turn up the TV/stereo to tune em out.

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM

I thought it was bring’em young. BTW did Joey Smith marry a 12 year old? Girl I presume.

SparkPlug on March 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Yup…read all about it at utlm.org I found this web site by accident and couldn’t stop reading. I looked for other sources and actually tried reading the BoM (I agree with Mark Twain on that one–it’s rough going). Why do you think you get called vile names for just repeating their own writings and history—as written by them, themselves? As I’ve noted, copying and pasting the Nicene Creed or any part of the Common Book of Prayer or recounting the bloody parts of the reformation wouldn’t get the Episcopals up in arms. But these guys? Whoa Nellie.

Portia46 on March 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

bmmg39 on March 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

To each his, or her, own.

What is bizarre is how we males are attracted to small, weak, slow mates with whiny voices. How can that be good genetic material for our offspring?

fadetogray on March 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Whatever, you say bizarre, I say mouth watering. Even better if she comes with an Amazon so we can play “compare and contrast”. Not that one is less beautiful than the other, just different. And you know what they say about variety.

Sigh, to be young and single…

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

So is California now ground zero for pedophiles suing for access to naked children?

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

No. Not only that, this is the stupidest stupid non story in the entire history of stupid non stories. Nudists the entire WORLD over have never segregated their children from other nudists. Don’t like it? Take it up with the nudists, but it happens to be part and parcel with their whole philosophy that their is nothing inherently sexual about a naked body.

More importantly, there is absolutely nothing news worthy about a business in California placing restrictions on what their clients do based on the fear of potential lawsuits.

That this lawsuit even exists is probably because someone in Palm Springs is attempting to get the Nudist Resort closed down. Yes, California really is full of a$$hole busybodies who spend all of their time and money trying to dictate what everyone else can or cannot do.

SWalker on March 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Nudists the entire WORLD over have never segregated their children from other nudists.

SWalker on March 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Actually, there are a huge number of clothing optional resorts that do not allow children. This is not a community we’re talking about here, but a resort. The restrictions aren’t about prudishness, but about keeping CPS off their backs.

GWB on March 30, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Don’t be too shocked. Permitting nudity in public and allowing little children to observe perverted sex acts, in the streets, is nothing new to Californians. It appears that sexualizing children is par for the course.

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/

and more on the subject at Michelle Malkin’s website:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/01/miller-lite-approved-toddlers-at-the-folsom-street-fair/

sinsing on March 30, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Whatever, you say bizarre, I say mouth watering.

……

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Well, both, of course.

The world is a strange and wondrous place.

fadetogray on March 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

The world is a strange and wondrous place.

fadetogray on March 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Thank God.

I wouldn’t want it any other way.

Except maybe to be the universally loved benevolent dictator of the world.

cozmo on March 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Most folks who like walking around nekkid—SHOULDN’T!

Sekhmet on March 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

We used to hit the La Jolla beach & Tennis club every year and when we were younger decided to hike down to Black’s Beach for a looksee. From what I recall you are spot on Sekmet. If they weren’t at least 50 lbs large or older than sun burned dirt they were happy fellas in nut sacks. Never bothered with that kind of thing again.

DanMan on March 30, 2012 at 5:16 PM

I’m a little late tho the thread and this has probably been said before, but … EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Xasprtr on March 30, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Tim_CA on March 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM

In NYC?

lol

BlaxPac on March 30, 2012 at 9:27 PM

That this lawsuit even exists is probably because someone in Palm Springs is attempting to get the Nudist Resort closed down. Yes, California really is full of a$$hole busybodies who spend all of their time and money trying to dictate what everyone else can or cannot do.

SWalker on March 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

What I read was they have a rule that there is no picture taking, but that can’t stop that from happening 100% of the time. That being the case someone being in possession of photos of nude children can be charged with possession of child pornography. California does have laws on the books what happens to this resort when it’s found out the photos were taken on their property? That would leave them open for a lawsuit also.

The resort prohibits public sexual behavior and the use of cameras, cell phones and laptops throughout most of the premises, but “violations do occur,” Young said.

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 9:54 PM

I think that covers everyone.
gekkobear on March 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

I agree with both. If your want liberty to exercise your beliefs, then you have to accept the right of others to do it their way short of murder etc.

AH_C on March 30, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Should we all have to go to the beach in one-piece suits?

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I always go to the beach in a one-piece suit; and I’ve never had a problem with that.

Solaratov on March 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM

The busybodies are lawyers using the courts to shakedown their victims.

aloysiusmiller on March 31, 2012 at 6:54 PM

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