Climate change skeptics should be “treated,” says enviro-sociologist

posted at 4:15 pm on March 30, 2012 by Tina Korbe

This just smacks of the same mentality that inspired climate change activists to say global warming deniers should be purged from meteorology. Kari Mari Norgaard, a professor of sociology and environmental studies at the University of Oregon, suggests that resistance to the threat of climate change at individual and societal levels must be “recognized and treated” before real action can be taken to effectively address the problem global warming poses. From a University of Oregon press release:

“Climate change poses a massive threat to our present social, economic and political order. From a sociological perspective, resistance to change is to be expected,” she said. “People are individually and collectively habituated to the ways we act and think. This habituation must be recognized and simultaneously addressed at the individual, cultural and societal level — how we think the world works and how we think it should work.” …

At the personal level, climate-change information raises fear about the future, a sense of helplessness and guilt. These emotions clash with individual — and often national — identity, sense of self-efficacy and the need for basic security and survival. In small groups, interactions often subvert political conversations and/or submerge the visibility of climate-change issues. At the macro level, or society at large, the co-authors point to an absence of serious discussion of climate change within U.S. Congressional hearings and in media coverage.

In many discussions in the last 30 years, climate change has been seen as either a hoax or fixable with minimal political or economic intervention, said Norgaard, author of the book “Living in Denial: Climate Change, Emotions and Everyday Life” (2011, MIT Press). “This kind of cultural resistance to very significant social threat is something that we would expect in any society facing a massive threat,” she said. The discussion, she said, is comparable to what happened with challenges to racism or slavery in the U.S. South.

Norgaard clearly assumes that climate change science is settled — but it still isn’t. Just three days ago, for example, Princeton physics professor William Happer wrote an article for The Wall Street Journal under the headline, “Global warming models are wrong again.” Here’s a bit of what he had to say:

It is easy to be confused about climate, because we are constantly being warned about the horrible things that will happen or are already happening as a result of mankind’s use of fossil fuels. But these ominous predictions are based on computer models. It is important to distinguish between what the climate is actually doing and what computer models predict. The observed response of the climate to more CO2 is not in good agreement with model predictions.

We need high-quality climate science because of the importance of climate to mankind. But we should also remember the description of how science works by the late, great physicist, Richard Feynman:

“In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience; compare it directly with observation, to see if it works. If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong.”

The most important component of climate science is careful, long-term observations of climate-related phenomena, from space, from land, and in the oceans. If observations do not support code predictions—like more extreme weather, or rapidly rising global temperatures—Feynman has told us what conclusions to draw about the theory.

Norgaard is surely right that there are plenty of unscientific reasons to wish to think climate change does not pose the threat some scientists say it does. An acceptance of that hypothesized threat might impose certain obligations — to, say, purchase a low emissions vehicle — that a person might wish to avoid. Yet, there are surely plenty of unscientific reasons to wish to think climate change does pose the threat some scientists say it does. A desire for the power and latitude to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, for example, might motivate some politicians to accept climate science that they would not otherwise.

In charged debates like this one, it’s not helpful to use rhetoric that suggests dissenters are diseased. Far better to patiently engage in respectful discussion.


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Are you sure? Have you seen her photo? Eye bleach warning!

Archivarix on March 30, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Wow, she’s a keeper….I’ll keep her in the Pen out back….

ToddPA on March 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM

But, more likely, it is thrown out in an attempt to create the impression of authority. Liberals think that simply by pointing to someone who is credentialed, that it proves a point. So, a liberal believes that if she says “I’m a Phd,” we have to take her word as an “expert”.

Monkeytoe on March 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Just so ! In my experience, those that deserve to be addressed as Dr. frequestly, and sheepishly request that I not do so. They do not need the reinforcement.
When Honorifics get tossed around, I tend to lose interest.
I hate business cards with an entire alphabet on ‘em

Jabberwock on March 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Conservatives today are no different from the flat earth believers many years ago.

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Really? Then how come so many of you liberals are Luddites? Go ahead, I’ll wait until you look it up.

PatriotGal2257 on March 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM

We can joke about this but we have no one to blame but ourselves. We allowed the EPA, NOAA, NASA, etc. to be over-run with Liberals. But worse yet are the Lobbyists and cronies who use and abuse these idiots like this so-called professor to line their own pockets at out expense. We haven’t stood up and said enough is enough until now and it could be too late.

Deanna on March 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Are you sure? Have you seen her photo? Eye bleach warning!

Archivarix on March 30, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Evidentally the poor thing is confused about why everyone recoils in horror around her. It is not the inability to grasp and accept the intricacies of the science of global warming that cause them to seize up when she is talking to them.

It’s the fact they have eyes.

Lily on March 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM

The problem for the warmest is “reality” mainly. None of their doomsday scenarios have come true, and their warmest Guru who promised the seas would rise, bought a million dollar home on the beach in Malibu with his ill gotten carbon credit scheme so there’s that, contradictory messaging problem/

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM

As Glen Reynolds is fond of saying: “I’ll believe there is a global warming problem when the people selling it ACT like there is a global warming problem…”

SilverDeth on March 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Conservatives today are no different from the flat earth believers many years ago. liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

And liberals are no different from the primitive tribes who threw people into volcanos or murdered people on altars to satisfy the angry earth gods who caused erruptions or droughts or floods or earthquakes.

But in reality it was the conservative types – imperialist fortune-seeking adventurers who actually proved that the earth is round and who the libs now demonize for exploitation of “the new world”.

Maybe liberal AGW believers should get electro-shock therapy until they can be made to understand that climate has always changed and always will change – so maybe we should invest our money in the ability to adapt to whatever happens instead of wasting it on trying stop natural processes.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Treated? Might not the residue slip into the eco-systems and pollute the joint. The fact is that these guys really mean it when they say “treat those who stand in their way” We’ve seen it before and it is here again, while our side puts up an unprincipled rich -CEO to fight the most dangerous enemy this nation has ever faced -ourselves.

Good luck using a Oromney businessman calculator GOP, when the war is and has been about our freedom, and their weapons has been raw candy for the masses – sex, hedonism, eco-worship, perversion, free lunches, envy, fear and greed.

The lives of earlier generations that have been wasted for this near-total surrender of America….

Don L on March 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Ms. Korbe: Apparently, either you do not know, or do not care, that the “Princeton physics professor William Happer” you quote is one of the most notorious and most thoroughly-debunked climate change deniers.

Happer’s latest WSJ piece does no more to challenge the settled science of AGW than his previous outlier presentations.

Also, Tina, I don’t know if you were trying to be funny with your closing paragraph,

In charged debates like this one, it’s not helpful to use rhetoric that suggests dissenters are diseased. Far better to patiently engage in respectful discussion.

but surely you’ve been with HotAir long enough to know that “respectful discussion” just isn’t done around here. Please see virtually every comment on this page for evidence.

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

An enviro-sociologist with a cosmetology degree can make a decent living cutting hair.

Cicero43 on March 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM

That’s what I heard they can make upwards of whatever the current minimum wage happens to be.

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

They all must feel it slipping away. Here in Canada, David Suzuki (our Algore) has called for climate skeptics to be jailed. http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=290513

suzeecue on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Research Interests

tribal environmental health
race and environment
gender and environment
climate change denial
emotions and social movements

Teaching Areas

environmental sociology
environmental justice
climate chage

Courses Taught

A Nexialist couldn’t make heads or tails out of this mish-mash. What the hell is environmental justice? And climate chage, what in the world is climate chage? That’s straight off her University of Oregon web page too.

Oldnuke on March 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM

If I were an Oregon taxpayer I’d be awfully upset to be paying her salary.

Unfortunately, I’m a California taxpayer, so I’m paying for far worse.

JEM on March 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Atheists make great believers in global warming scams.

Roy Rogers on March 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM

I have to disagree with that – no relationship.
I’m atheist because I don’t automatically believe in anything without some kind of proof. And because I look for proof and evaluate the science and facts, I also don’t believe in AGW and see it for the scam it is.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:11 PM

The discussion, she said, is comparable to what happened with challenges to racism or slavery in the U.S. South.

ROFL yea Kari, exactly like that.

thirtyandseven on March 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Happer’s latest WSJ piece does no more to challenge the settled science of AGW

Again, can a liberal ever comment without lying? Is it even possible?

Do you ever ask yourself why you must always lie to defend your ideology? If your ideology was correct, you wouldn’t need to always lie, true? So, doesn’t it ever give you pause that you always lie?

Seriously. I don’t know how liberals can look themselves in the mirror knowing the extent of their own dishonesty. It is truly baffling.

And, its even funnier when a liberal talks about “civility” or discussion or debate.

What a joke.

Monkeytoe on March 30, 2012 at 5:14 PM

BTW, here this is the smug clown who is talking at us.

I think we just found AP a woman!

thirtyandseven on March 30, 2012 at 5:15 PM

A Nexialist couldn’t make heads or tails out of this mish-mash. What the hell is environmental justice? And climate chage, what in the world is climate chage? That’s straight off her University of Oregon web page too.

Oldnuke on March 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Tress have rights too!!
Its right there in the interstate commerce clause. Don’tcha know ?

Jabberwock on March 30, 2012 at 5:15 PM

TREES. Out of coffee.

Jabberwock on March 30, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Conservatives today are no different from the flat earth believers many years ago.

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

…you and Kari Mari need a kool-aid enema!

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 5:17 PM

rounding them up and putting them in camps- there’s an option. climate change denier colonies- the new lepers.

mittens on March 30, 2012 at 5:17 PM

ToddPA on March 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM

That’s pretty sKari.

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Kari Mari Norgaard…suggests that resistance to the threat of climate change at individual and societal levels must be “recognized and treated”

They MEAN exactly what they say, and if it were in their power to run re-education camps, they’d do it in a heart beat!

And if you couldn’t be re-educated, that leaves only one thing left. YES, I believe they would. Just like the “educated” Germans of the 3rd Reich did.

GarandFan on March 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Respectful discussion. That would be a first.

Snake307 on March 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

“This kind of cultural resistance to very significant social threat is something that we would expect in any society facing a massive threat,” she said. The discussion, she said, is comparable to what happened with challenges to racism or slavery in the U.S. South.

It’s true, I am resistant to being shaken down by con artist. That part is true, the rest is just a beard to redistribute wealth from producers to non producers.

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM

That picture doesn’t do her justice. http://tinyurl.com/6o9lf3s

Leftists can go on with their self delusion that “the science is settled” even as it has virtually all been debunked. But people with the facts on their side wouldn’t need to lie and hide data and refuse to comply with FOI laws to disclose their emails.

Recent work in deep Antarctic ice cores indicates that elevated levels of greenhouse gases follows warming, not the other way around, anyway. But we all know it was never about the environment at all – it’s about an excuse for more control over the economy by the Marxists.

The earth would be better served by returning all these leftists to compost.

Adjoran on March 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM

That photo,on a friday even.Easily a double bagger.

docflash on March 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

The “hockey stick” has been thoroughly debunked.
algore’s CO2 causes warming chart with data reversed has been thoroughly debunked.
Every major point in algore’s garbage movie has been thoroughly debunked.
The integrity of all major AGW proponents has been thoroughly debunked.
The actual science and sources for the IPCC reports have been thoroughly debunked.
James Hansen, NASA’s algorean disciple, has been thoroughly debunked and his lack of ethics revealed.
Your messiah algore bought a mansion on the beach in Malibu – the move of someone who really believes the oceans are rising enough for impending catastrophe? DEBUNKED!
Shall I continue?

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Conservatives today are no different from the flat earth believers many years ago. liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Is that what u said when the left was pushing global cooling 40 years ago? Or Population control 50 years ago? Or eugenics 100 years ago?

Spliff Menendez on March 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM

BTW, here this is the smug clown who is talking at us.

I think we just found AP a woman!

thirtyandseven on March 30, 2012 at 5:15 PM

It’s not a secret that these people have therapist of their own. warmest heal thy self. I wouldn’t doubt that she’s in some kind of therapy. She needs to look up projection in her sociology books.

Projection: Unwanted thoughts and feelings can be unconsciously projected onto another who becomes a scapegoat for one’s own problems.

Conservatives today are no different from the flat earth believers many years ago. SEE liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

This concept can be extended to projection by groups. In this case the chosen individual, or group, becomes the scapegoat for the group’s problems. “Political agitation in all countries is full of such projections, just as much as the backyard gossip of little groups and individuals.” Jung considered indeed that “there must be some people who behave in the wrong way; they act as scapegoats and objects of interest for the normal ones”.

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Norgaard, author of the book “Living in Denial

How appropriate.

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Does nt change the fact that nothing, and I do mean absolutely nothing, that warmthers have predicted has even come remotely true

Spliff Menendez on March 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM

How about we ‘treat’ buck toothed cross eyed Kari Mari Norgaard?

DANEgerus on March 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Ms. Korbe: Apparently, either you do not know, or do not care, that the “Princeton physics professor William Happer” you quote is one of the most notorious and most thoroughly-debunked climate change deniers.

Happer’s latest WSJ piece does no more to challenge the settled science of AGW than his previous outlier presentations.

Also, Tina, I don’t know if you were trying to be funny with your closing paragraph,

In charged debates like this one, it’s not helpful to use rhetoric that suggests dissenters are diseased. Far better to patiently engage in respectful discussion.

but surely you’ve been with HotAir long enough to know that “respectful discussion” just isn’t done around here. Please see virtually every comment on this page for evidence.

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

As stated – there is no point in debating with evil people who are utterly disingenuous in their arguments. You mindset is evil, your applications of that mindset is an abomination to both logical thinking and humanity, and to even give you the courtesy of a single round of debate on your thoroughly debunked sham elevates you to something you are patently not – a human begin.

You know nothing of propriety and decorum, and care nothing for them. They are nothing more to your kind than tools with which to stall and delay until you have amassed enough power to plunge any nation you control into an absolute dark age of tyranny and repression.

And you will bring about hell on earth completely self-validated on the righteousness of your barbaric actions.

No.

As stated before – you are vultures and weasels, and you are dishonest and conniving at your core. You would never concede your defeat even when it is undeniably proven (time and time again) that you are demonstrably full of s*&^, so why, pray tell, should your bile be tolerated for ANY amount of time?

(That’s a rhetorical question by the way, I’d not lower myself to actually inquiring anything from a paleolithic throw-back such as you).

You are not just wrong – you are dangerous. You kind is not content to debate. You kind if left unchecked would enslave us all, and gleefully plunge us into a black pit that would take ages to claw our way out of. You cower like simpering animals behind civil society while you sharpen your dagger in anticipation of the throat slitting your kind so adores.

We see you for what you are, and you will be opposed, and stopped.

SilverDeth on March 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Conservatives Liberals today are no different from the flat earth believers Fascists of not too many years ago.

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

.
Fixed for everybody … except you.

ExpressoBold on March 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I notice the libtard trolls disappeared fast when all the actual facts contradicting their claims come out….
They just can’t respond (in an intelligent manner anyway) to facts and logic.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I’m getting very tired of having my freedom threatened by elitists who can’t make their case…

If White Hispanic Zimmerman’s face looked as bad as National Socialist elitist Kari Mari Norgaard the shooting would’ve been justified.

DANEgerus on March 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

professor of sociology

Last time I checked soc majors were down in the bottom quartile of college majors. That says it all.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

If I looked like Kari Mari Norgaard I’d think there was an over population problem to

DANEgerus on March 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

I notice the libtard trolls disappeared fast when all the actual facts contradicting their claims come out….
They just can’t respond (in an intelligent manner anyway) to facts and logic.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM

WEll you’re stupid…and shut up…so there! /libtard troll

Oldnuke on March 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

One more thing – what the ^&^*& is an “Enviro-Sociologist” ?!?!?!?

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Kari Mari Norgaard, a professor of sociology and environmental studies at the University of Oregon…

.
OK, I confess I stopped reading for comprehension right there. The rest I perused, as best I could, to see what the gist was but really, if we have a gender bending loony tunes Sociologist AND Environmental Studies Scientist in one person, what other reality do we need?
.
I just wonder how she fits all those activities into a mere 24 hour day and seven day week! (Please, turn your head when you talk, Professor! I have a queasy stomach around you!)

ExpressoBold on March 30, 2012 at 5:42 PM

National Socialist Kari Mari Norgaard thinks shes the master race cure and you’re the disease.

But I’m guessing Dr. Mengele will send her to the showers first.

DANEgerus on March 30, 2012 at 5:43 PM

liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Being a flat earther never harmed anyone. You4 philosophy on the other hand is responsible for the deaths of multi-millions of men, women, and children during the last century. Further you revel in enslaving our progeny to pay for your evil philosophy.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Fine,
KMN, lib4life, and all you other enlightened ones infesting this planet:

I’ll accept your “Treatment” if you accept mine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_12_Looks_Just_Like_You

SnarkySam on March 30, 2012 at 5:45 PM

What exactly qualifies her to talk about climate change at the academic level?

aryeung on March 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

The same delusions that she would use to “treat people”.

Lourdes on March 30, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Being a flat earther never harmed anyone. You4 philosophy on the other hand is responsible for the deaths of multi-millions of men, women, and children during the last century. Further you revel in enslaving our progeny to pay for your evil philosophy.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Besides, the earth isn’t flat – or round – it’s on the back of a giant turtle walking around the sun.
What’s he walking on? Well the back of another turtle of course.
What’s he walking on? Don’t bother with that logic – it’s turtles all the way down….

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:48 PM

What exactly qualifies her to talk about climate change at the academic level?

aryeung on March 30, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Probably the same kind of science/climate qualifications algore has… that would be ZERO.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Over the past ten years I have published and taught in the areas of environmental sociology, gender and environment, race and environment, climate change, sociology of culture, social movements and sociology of emotions.

Definite skill set that we need more of. Next time I’m real sick I’ll have her check me out.
When people like this are actually taken seriously by a significant section of our society we is scroomed.

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM

professor of sociology

Last time I checked soc majors were down in the bottom quartile of college majors. That says it all.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Psychology and Sociology are the undergraduate majors (along with “Political Science”) into which the generally maladapted and antisocial personalities gravitate. They’re theoretical studies based upon a heavy-handed use of various “statistics” and “studies” that amount to a big belief system applied or attempted to be applied to human society which is deemed “bad” and therefore in need of being “treated” by these practitioners.

Lourdes on March 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

but surely you’ve been with HotAir long enough to know that “respectful discussion” just isn’t done around here. Please see virtually every comment on this page for evidence.

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Well, Drew Lowell, or liberal4life, or any other liberal, ,here is your chance to have a “respectful discussion”. Let’s discuss the history of the earth.

Here are the first two points for discussion:

1) Does the last two billions years of the earth’s history indicate that “climate change” can be considered to be in a near “constant” change with a a somewhat variable rate?

2) Does the answer to #1 above suggest that the earth’s climate will continue to exhibit, with a high probability, a nearly constant change with a somewhat variable rate?

Yoop on March 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

How about some links to pictures showing how you live up to your belief’s. You’ve sworn of big oil/energy and use just alternative sources to power your life, right? Of course you haven’t, progressives, don’t have the b*lls to really live the live they want for the rest of us. It is plain too hard. So, slaver, do us a favor and quit torturing the electrons provided by big energy to write your screeds.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Fine, he can treat me to a porterhouse steak, rare, and some 12 year old single malt while he apologizes for being an asshat.

subsonic on March 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM

One more thing – what the ^&^*& is an “Enviro-Sociologist” ?!?!?!?

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

It’s the same thing as an Enviro-Socialist with a couple of extra letters thrown in to confuse people.

Benedict Nelson on March 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

National Socialist Kari Mari Norgaard thinks shes the master race cure and you’re the disease.

But I’m guessing Dr. Mengele will send her to the showers first.

DANEgerus on March 30, 2012 at 5:43 PM

They don’t have dentists in OR?

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I would say that turnabout would be fair play except that while we may “recognize” Dr. sKari and others of the “enviro-sociologist” persuasion, I have doubts that there is any “treatment” for what ails them. You can’t fix stupid; especially determined stupidity.

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

or maybe she part beaver.

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Yoop on March 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

I admire your effort but for liberals; math is hard, science is harder and research if the hardest of all. Advances in paleo-climatology put the lie to the entire AGW meme but that doesn’t sway their true belief at all.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM

The quoted text does not use the words “treat” or “treated”, and the “press release” link refers to another HotAir page, not to any actual press release from the University of Oregon.

So, why is the word ‘treated’ placed in quotation marks in the headline?

Who actually said or wrote this, and where can we read or hear the original?

YiZhangZhe on March 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Benedict Nelson on March 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Thanks for clearing that up. For a minute there I thought it was some kind of whackadoodle, mumbo-jumbo, high-falutin’ official sounding title of real seriousness that we should pay attention to. Whew.

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

They don’t have dentists in OR?

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

.
Actually, to be fair, she would require “sedation dentistry” and the only sedation in Oregon is a blow to the head. I wouldn’t want that either. It would be too much like:

Professor Kari Mari Norgaard compared her sedation dentistry experience to hari kari – she wasn’t sure she would wake up!

ExpressoBold on March 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Yoop on March 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

I admire your effort but for liberals; math is hard, science is harder and research if the hardest of all. Advances in paleo-climatology put the lie to the entire AGW meme but that doesn’t sway their true belief at all.

chemman on March 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Do you think I should wait around for an hour or two, or is it OK to leave in a few minutes? ;-)

Yoop on March 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM

The idea that someone with divergent views from theirs might actually have a valid reason for holding them never enters their thought process, does it?

Socratease on March 30, 2012 at 6:09 PM

One more thing – what the ^&^*& is an “Enviro-Sociologist” ?!?!?!?

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

It’s the same thing as an Enviro-Socialist with a couple of extra letters thrown in to confuse people.

That makes it one step away from an Enviro-Nazi, right?

Socratease on March 30, 2012 at 6:09 PM

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Always happy to help! :)

Benedict Nelson on March 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM

The idea that someone with divergent views from theirs might actually have a valid reason for holding them never enters their thought process, does it?

Socratease on March 30, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Seldom.

Bmore on March 30, 2012 at 6:12 PM

One more thing – what the ^&^*& is an “Enviro-Sociologist” ?!?!?!?

ghostwalker1 on March 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

It’s the same thing as an Enviro-Socialist with a couple of extra letters thrown in to confuse people.
That makes it one step away from an Enviro-Nazi, right?

Socratease on March 30, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Same difference, actually.

Benedict Nelson on March 30, 2012 at 6:12 PM

or maybe she is part beaver.

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Add the word, is, and I’m with ya.

Bmore on March 30, 2012 at 6:15 PM

or ‘s

Bmore on March 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Naomi: some American women don’t think like you. Deal with it.

KillerKane on March 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM

From the WSJ article linked by Mr. Happer is a professor of physics at Princeton.

Who do I pay attention to, the chick in Oregon that looks like she’s got an extra chromosome or the professor of physics – hard science/

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 6:22 PM

but surely you’ve been with HotAir long enough to know that “respectful discussion” just isn’t done around here. Please see virtually every comment on this page for evidence.

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Hmmm now you have gone off and hid.

Wonder why.
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liberal4life on March 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I don’t think you have ever had an original thought.

CW on March 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM

So, why is the word ‘treated’ placed in quotation marks in the headline? Who actually said or wrote this, and where can we read or hear the original?

YiZhangZhe on March 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Valid point. I think the paper referred to is here.

Socratease on March 30, 2012 at 6:26 PM

We have a pity the poor polar bears article in our paper almost every day. So, I goggled polar bear population and got a recent article in the National Post of Canada that said the population had been growing not declining. Since the ’90s when there were 800 or so in 3 polar areas of NW Canada to today when there are over 2100. Even the Inuit say there are more of the nasty beasts around. Don’t you just hate it when the agw promoters keep crying wolf. BTW, we had 2 wolves chasing some deer through our back yard this morning. Welcome to Montana.

Kissmygrits on March 30, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Based on her pic, I’d say that some poor, confused Lions Club members were passing out used eyeglasses to the Western Pocket Gopher colonies… agin.

ya2daup on March 30, 2012 at 6:29 PM

professor of sociology and environmental studies

Um, I think this bulls*t title about says it all about Kari’s credibility.

Sociology and “environmental studies” are not science, nor do either utilize proper scientific methods (like all of the behavioral disciplines). To incite the authorities to classify scientific “dissidents” as mentally defective is to toss the whole notion of reasoned debate into the dumpster. But considering the source, how is that surprising? These people were the same ones who pushed people down in the playground as kids, and when they got pushed down in-turn, ran to the teacher and whined.

Mr Galt on March 30, 2012 at 6:30 PM

And liberals are no different from the primitive tribes who threw people into volcanos … to satisfy the angry earth gods who caused erruptions or droughts or floods or earthquakes.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Baaaaam!

WeekendAtBernankes on March 30, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Check it out.

Seek help.

Mimzey on March 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Go back to Santa Monica and peddle your government subsidized solar stuff. (And good luck selling that in Seattle.)

peski on March 30, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

There are $5.00 foot longs available on the other thread. Be glad to comp you one.

Bmore on March 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Professor Norrgard has habituated to her way of thinking and acting. (rolleyes)
Randy

williars on March 30, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I just wish these people would give me the date of the climate apocalypse, so I can laugh at them when the time comes. I think the rapture predictability models are probably more scientific and accurate.

The Count on March 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Does anyone else find it pants-splittingly, LOL-hilarious that a “professor of sociology and environmental studies at the University of Oregon” is apparently possessed of the belief that her status as such gives her any special right to affect public policy beyond what we all have?

Getting a university to give you a job teaching doesn’t give you any right to tell us how to order our society, lady. You want authority, get yourself elected to something. Until then, go back to your room full of mush-headed teenagers. They might buy this crap. Typical liberal dictator-wannabe. Her’s a tip, Doc — it takes more to be a dictator than getting a job at a school, and you’re burning daylight. Go for it, but until you get there, quit making us laugh. It won’t help.

Good luck to you.

Dirty Creature on March 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Megalomaniacs need to be treated first.

profitsbeard on March 30, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Does anyone else find it pants-splittingly, LOL-hilarious

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OH Toe-talley! Toe-talley!

ExpressoBold on March 30, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Take one look at Al Gore and tell me he is not diseased?

Old Country Boy on March 30, 2012 at 7:03 PM

We must stop climate from changing Now!

profitsbeard on March 30, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Here’s the press release link if nobody has already put it up. No time to go over all the posts here.

tbrosz on March 30, 2012 at 7:07 PM

*yawn*

Another libtard telling us “global warming ‘deniers’” are “raycists”:

Sadly, these people can’t be bothered to get real jobs and earn an honest living, they have to mooch off the productive, unwashed masses.

I fear the end times are near, considering the trajectory we’re on.

franciscodanconia on March 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

I’m a denier

redridinghood on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

I’m sorry if someone has posted this already, but here is one of her previous writings:

Climate Denial and the Construction of Innocence: Reproducing Transnational Privilege in the Face of Climate Change

LO F’en L

strictnein on March 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Please report to your nearest Reeducation Camp for processing.

hadsil on March 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM

O. M. Freaking. G.

I just googled this piece of work and ended up here:

http://www.whitman.edu/content/sociology/faculty/norgaard

Warning: Don’t look. Seriously.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Now excuse me while I go boil my eyeballs…

Dirty Creature on March 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

“respectful discussion” just isn’t done around here.

Drew Lowell on March 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Did he not call you the next morning?

docflash on March 30, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Here’s the press release link if nobody has already put it up. No time to go over all the posts here.

tbrosz on March 30, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Thank you.

It isn’t clear to me whether ‘treated’ is a word used by Ms Norgaard or only by some anonymous ‘media relations’ person writing a conference summary, but the latter seems more likely.

YiZhangZhe on March 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM

O. M. Freaking. G.

I just googled this piece of work and ended up here:

http://www.whitman.edu/content/sociology/faculty/norgaard

Warning: Don’t look. Seriously.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Now excuse me while I go boil my eyeballs…

Dirty Creature on March 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Hey if you were her, you would want to change the subject to some other calamity too ;)

Dr Evil on March 30, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Is Kari Mari Norgaard the reincarnation of Stalin or just an escaped mental patient?

VorDaj on March 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

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