Are you ready for another Republican debate?

posted at 7:23 pm on March 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

Pros: If it happens, it’s an effortless night of content for conservative bloggers everywhere. Cons: C’mon, it’s not happening.

Really?

The Republican Party of Texas is making plans to host a presidential debate in Texas before the May 29 primaries.

Party Chairman Steve Munisteri announced Friday that all the major candidates except Mitt Romney have accepted the invitation. Munisteri said Romney, the frontrunner, is considering the offer…

“There is a significant chance that they will televise the debate even if we are lacking only one candidate. We already have commitments from former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Texas Congressman Ron Paul and Senator Rick Santorum to participate in such a debate,” Munisteri said. “Both my staff and myself have reached out to the campaign of Gov. Mitt Romney and have been told that they are considering attending the debate.”

There’s no date or location yet, but note that Texas doesn’t vote for another two months. There are just six primaries left after that. Does anyone think, with Santorum already fading and Newt on life support, that the race will still be so unsettled, say, six weeks from now that it’ll warrant another GOP game show? If it does happen, Romney will be in a nasty bind about whether to attend. As the all-but-certain nominee, he can’t snub Texas. If the state breaks for Santorum, it’ll be a black eye for him as the media interprets it as one last bit of Romney rejectionism by the party’s base before the convention. If he does attend and Santorum and Gingrich beat up on him one last time in defeat — a “Not Romney” Alamo — then it’s a pointless exercise that’ll do nothing but weaken him at a moment when he’s focused entirely on Obama.

But maybe we’re reading this the wrong way. Here’s what a newly conciliatory Newt told a Wisconsin radio show today:

Gingrich told a Milwaukee radio station today that “we have all three been talking with each other all during the process because we all three understand that the number-one mission is to defeat Barack Obama.”

“So I talked to Santorum recently, and I think that’s just a part of the process,” Gingrich said…

“We are people that want to make sure the Republican Party candidate is capable of defeating a guy that we think would be a disaster to reelect, and I think you also see us focusing more and more attention on Obama,” Gingrich said today.

Maybe the point of the Texas debate is that it won’t be a “debate” but rather an opportunity for the four of them to show solidarity with Romney and spend 90 minutes collectively unloading on Obama. But if that’s the case, why hasn’t Romney accepted yet? And why then was Santorum slamming Romney again last night in California for being an Etch-a-Sketch candidate? Seriously, what am I missing? How does a last debate in May help the party unless it’s not really a debate at all?


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Someone today claimed that Romney was “soaring”.

Ha ha ha no.

And this is a perfect example.

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Debate what?

Rusty Allen on March 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Are you ready for another Republican debate?

I never thought I’d say this, but yes I am. There should have never been weekly debates but so much has changed since the last one. Of course, if the MSM is running the show, it will just be a waste of time.

joekenha on March 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

They should start having debates for 2016.

Mark1971 on March 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

A perfect example of what? That this will never happen because the primary is over? Santorum will drop out before Penn.

Rusty Allen on March 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

But if that’s the case, why hasn’t Romney accepted yet?

Because he has cojones of steel, the kind to beat Obama.

Schadenfreude on March 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Someone today claimed that Romney was “soaring”.

Ha ha ha no.

And this is a perfect example.

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Yep. I just don’t think they get the level of resistance to Romney that exists within the party.

KickandSwimMom on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Debate what?

Rusty Allen on March 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Mhhh, if sugar is toxic or not.

Schadenfreude on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Maybe the point of the Texas debate is that it won’t be a “debate” but rather an opportunity for the four of them to show solidarity with Romney and spend 90 minutes collectively unloading on Obama.

That would be nice. I would love to see them spend 90 minutes talking about Solyndra, F&F, The Rashid Khalidi tape, and every extra constitutional power grab Obama has engaged in. The media would refuse to cover it and act as if it didn’t take place at all, but it would still be entertaining. Especially Newt. Say what you want about the guy, when he starts going after King Barry, it’s pure poetry.

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2012 at 7:30 PM

If Ron Paul is there I’ll watch.

FloatingRock on March 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Willard would be crazy to accept this

DBear on March 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Someone today claimed that Romney was “soaring”.

Ha ha ha no.

And this is a perfect example.

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

It’s not a matter of Romney soaring but the other two candidates seems to be plummeting.

rich801 on March 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I’m all for it, IF . . . . .
.
There’s going to be some worthwhile moderators.

Who are they going to have for that purpose?

listens2glenn on March 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Maybe the point of the Texas debate is that it won’t be a “debate” but rather an opportunity for the four of them to show solidarity with Romney

…in that case, never mind then. I’m more interested in who the 3rd party candidates will be.

FloatingRock on March 30, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Someone today claimed that Romney was “soaring”.

Ha ha ha no.

And this is a perfect example.

MadisonConservative on March 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Guilty as charged. I misread someone else’s post and didn’t double-check before I put up my response.

MelonCollie on March 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Doubtful.

cantaffordcollege on March 30, 2012 at 7:40 PM

It’s not a matter of Romney soaring but the other two candidates seems to be plummeting.

rich801 on March 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Exactly. Ron Paul’s positions are toxic to most of the right, and Santorum is busy shooting himself in the foot with a chaingun.

MelonCollie on March 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Always good for a drinking game.

Bmore on March 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM

I’ll watch it to see Ron Paul, knowing full well that Mitt already has it wrapped up.

Decoski on March 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

KickandSwimMom on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

I’m still waiting on your comments about polls in wisconsin and pennsylvania as opposed to North carolina

lol,lol,lol,lol(yes that’s all i have)

gerrym51 on March 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

NO AND HE!! NO!
Haven’t we already given the democrats enough fodder to beat us up with?

Barred on March 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

O T

listens2glenn
will be off the internet for a few days; maybe a couple weeks.
(change of residence)

I’ll weigh-in as soon as I’m re-connected.

Try not to get “banned” before I return.

I don’t want to miss anyone. : )

listens2glenn on March 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM

N.O. AND H.E.L.L. N.O.! Goodness….give it up already. Please????? Pretty please with sugar and cherries on top?????

sicoit on March 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Always good for a drinking game.

Bmore on March 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Heh, I don’t need any reason to drink these days….really. ;)

sicoit on March 30, 2012 at 7:46 PM

NO AND HE!! NO!
Haven’t we already given the democrats enough fodder to beat us up with?

Barred on March 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

.
I reject the premise that this ‘prolonged’ primary has given the Democrats anything MORE to “beat us up with”.

listens2glenn on March 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Great, my liver has just gone into hiding.

rbj on March 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I’ll be the lady in the audience with the kewl fingernails.

Sekhmet on March 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Olby gets canned. Sweet Jeebus. Rejoice America.

SparkPlug on March 30, 2012 at 7:49 PM

It’s the yogi debate, “it ain’t over til it’s over!”

Mr. Sun on March 30, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Allahpundit aka Ed Morissey….no chance Mitt will accept…he already has the nomination locked up….Wisconsin will be the nail in the coffin for Woody and Newt Horndog to drop out

nparga23 on March 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

(subbing)

…Hang in there Newt…!!!

…I like Newt at debates…and he’ll let it all hang out at the next debate.

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Well…..that was such a nice request, Maybe.

Barred on March 30, 2012 at 7:51 PM

God, I love myself…I am so dang smart…

nparga23 on March 30, 2012 at 7:52 PM

We had 8,372 debates when no elections were happening and nobody cared. Then we get into the heart of primary season and they just stopped. The debate schedule was all wrong. We should have had a small number of pre-primary debates when the field of candidates had 20 people in it. Once the primaries and caucuses got going and the field narrowed, that’s when we should have seen a string of debates to help the voters make their ultimate choice.

Shump on March 30, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Maybe they could debate whether Santorum’s ardent Catholicism, as social conservatism merit badge, in any way mitigates his record as a big government moderate and blesses him with divine executive insight.

Or maybe they could debate whether Callista will leave Newt four, five, or six months after he drops out.

Or they could do something worthwhile, and all just get in the truck with Ron and go find some really good Tex-Mex and Bohemia beer.

M240H on March 30, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Yep. I just don’t think they get the level of resistance to Romney that exists within the party.
KickandSwimMom on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Hot Air could set up threads which engender discussion (or at least rants) about Obama’s abysmal record. Instead we get threads which result in more whining and carping from the sore losers.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I would love to have another debate but its over we lost this battle.

at this point it really is only getting worse, we need to pack in people. Think about the money we need to make up, you read the same things I do.

boogaleesnots on March 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Where is Ed?

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Maybe they could debate whether Santorum’s ardent Catholicism, as social conservatism merit badge, in any way mitigates his record as a big government

nothing says big government like romneycare

newrouter on March 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

plus Bush 41 already endorsed Romney….Romney wins by double digits in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Texas

Woody the muffin top and Newt Horndog should drop out now and join Weight Watchers

dang, I am so smart like Michael Savage

nparga23 on March 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

nothing says big government like romneycare

newrouter on March 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Correct… on a state level.

M240H on March 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Where is Ed?

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Earlier somebody said he is on vacation.

JannyMae on March 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Where is Ed?

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Ed is here on hotgas…his alias is Allahpundit…sometimes Ed subs for Who Hewitt on radio with General Fatismo

nparga23 on March 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM

George Zimmerman 2012

Crusty on March 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Thanks everyone! You know how I worry.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

The only debate I want to see if one about whether the unelectable, Obama-supported candidate Rick Santorum should drop out this week or next week.

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Hot Air could set up threads which engender discussion (or at least rants) about Obama’s abysmal record. Instead we get threads which result in more whining and carping from the sore losers.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I believe blogger accounts are still free, if you’d like to set up your own blog. Then you could “discuss” whatever you wanted to, to your serene, little heart’s content.

JannyMae on March 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Please no !

Hummer53 on March 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Debate!!!!!

Which Progressive would win?

The RomneyCare Bush squish?

The serial adulterer that loves Wilson, FDR and Teddy Roosevelt

Or the “team player” that endorsed the Dept of Education, Arlen Specter and other big gov items but now sings the Founders praises?

UGH!!!!!

PappyD61 on March 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Yep. I just don’t think they get the level of resistance to Romney that exists within the party.

KickandSwimMom on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

The ones here clearly don’t.

As far as another debate? Why?

JannyMae on March 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

It’s over. No point.

Philly on March 30, 2012 at 8:12 PM

(subbing)

…Hang in there Newt…!!!

…I like Newt at debates…and he’ll let it all hang out at the next debate.

KOOLAID2 on March 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I know I can always count on you…

… Thanks.

And I say…

… YYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

(another chance for a drinking game if nothing else)

:)

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I believe blogger accounts are still free, if you’d like to set up your own blog. Then you could “discuss” whatever you wanted to, to your serene, little heart’s content. JannyMae on March 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I have a full time occupation and with people like you here this is more fun. It’s no surprise to see you in the bitter loser camp. So have you altered anyone’s comments today?

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 8:15 PM

… YYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

(another chance for a drinking game if nothing else)

:)

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM

If it’s in TX, shots of Hornitos and Shiner Bocks?

M240H on March 30, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Hot Air could set up threads which engender discussion (or at least rants) about Obama’s abysmal record. Instead we get threads which result in more whining and carping from the sore losers.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 7:57 PM

In my ever so humble opinion +100

Old Country Boy on March 30, 2012 at 8:17 PM

if its all about going after dear leader…then go for it…otherwise forget it

cmsinaz on March 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM

:)

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM

good point 7%

*clink*

cmsinaz on March 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Correct… on a state level.

ted kennedy’s state for the win

newrouter on March 30, 2012 at 8:21 PM

why bother?

cheetah2 on March 30, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Debate what?

Rusty Allen on March 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

hahaha..I almost spit our my wine! that was good.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 30, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Ras has Mitt up by 10 in WI in polling from yesterday 44-34

NEWT’S HANGIN IN AT 7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 8:25 PM

good point 7%

*clink*

cmsinaz on March 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM

:)

*clink*

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Link Fixed

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 8:27 PM

As a reminder, the Georgia GOP really screwed up by claiming there was going to be a debate when it had not been agreed to.

Buy Danish on March 30, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Why not??

Topic suggestions:

O’s Hot Mic
Rubio back door deal with Dems on immigration
Contraception mandates
Gay marriage glitters
Sarah’s take on O’s orchestrated Trayvon comment
ObamneyCare take down by the SCOTUS
Why Zimmerman should be left alone
Romney’s car elevators (you know Gingrich wants to!!)

oh….and Gardasil mandate!…it’s TX after all

Not the economy you ask?? Well Robama aka Obamney said it was recovering.

blame the wine….

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 30, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Ed and Allah are two separate peoples, or persons, or personages. But I can’t prove it.

SparkPlug on March 30, 2012 at 8:40 PM

After Santorum’s near disastrous slip of the tongue in W Va I think he needs to stay as far away from a microphone as possible.

Bradky on March 30, 2012 at 8:42 PM

No thank you.

CorporatePiggy on March 30, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I just don’t think they get the level of resistance to Romney that exists within the party.

KickandSwimMom on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Yep. They’re still in “the base will get behind us in the general anyway, they have nowhere else to go” la-la land. November 9 is the beginning of a serious third-party movement, because these jackwagons simply cannot be fixed.

alwaysfiredup on March 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Maybe the point of the Texas debate is that it won’t be a “debate” but rather an opportunity for the four of them to show solidarity with Romney and spend 90 minutes collectively unloading on Obama. But if that’s the case, why hasn’t Romney accepted yet? And why then was Santorum slamming Romney again last night in California for being an Etch-a-Sketch candidate? Seriously, what am I missing? How does a last debate in May help the party unless it’s not really a debate at all?

Romney wont touch that debate if he thinks he will still be challenged. He got every Bush in Texas so why rock the boat?

If Santorum doesn’t bow down to the Wizard. and stop debating, he will be punished. Gingrich decided to go for an invite to the after party, but Santorum still has leverage. Paul, who cares. Romney has what he needs of Paul. Dont matter what Paul says

This debate presents an awkward moment for Romney, like being invited to a wedding one does not wish to attend. If he doesnt show, he will offend some conservatives he still needs to woo.

If Romney attends, and Santorum scores some points, Rove will have to pull out his lace hankie and fan himself out of the vapors. Oh the humanity

entagor on March 30, 2012 at 8:59 PM

NO AND HE!! NO!
Haven’t we already given the democrats enough fodder to beat us up with?

Barred on March 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

They’ve had intel on each candidate and all the ones that didn’t run (just in case) for the past couple of years.

There’s nothing that can come out in a debate that they aren’t already aware of.

Or they’ll just make it up.

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 9:00 PM

The only debate I want to see if one about whether the unelectable, Obama-supported candidate Rick Santorum should drop out this week or next week.

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I’m Mitt Romney and I approve this message.

At least you’re calming down with the name calling/denigration of the other candidates. Now you just have to work on WHY we should be voting for Romney.

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Yep. They’re still in “the base will get behind us in the general anyway, they have nowhere else to go” la-la land. November 9 is the beginning of a serious third-party movement, because these jackwagons simply cannot be fixed. alwaysfiredup on March 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Settle down and think. If you don’t support the nominee then you aren’t part of the base. If the party is too big for you then you can waste your time forming a fringe party. If you think you have it bad now wait ’til you belong to a party with no power.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:07 PM

The only debate I want to see if one about whether the unelectable, Obama-supported candidate Rick Santorum should drop out this week or next week.

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I’m Mitt Romney and I approve this message.

At least you’re calming down with the name calling/denigration of the other candidates. Now you just have to work on WHY we should be voting for Romney.

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Bluegill’s done a masterful job demonstrating why Santorum was a dreadful candidate. If you don’t know why you should vote against Obama then you are hopeless. Bluegill’s time would be better spent catching stars or building a pyramid.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Bluegill’s done a masterful job demonstrating why Santorum was a dreadful candidate. If you don’t know why you should vote against Obama then you are hopeless. Bluegill’s time would be better spent catching stars or building a pyramid.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Pfffft. I’ve been told over and over that Ham Sandwich could beat Obama, so maybe I’m waiting for Ham to make an appearance.

Okay, maybe I should amend my question for the clearly singularly narrow-minded:

Why should I *like* voting for Romney?

or

What can you tell me to make me not drink before going to the polls because the only choice is “Obama” and “Not Obama”?

If the only positive thing you (and your kin) can say about Romney is that “he’s not Obama”, then that’s not really selling him and I may as well vote for the other people on the ballot that “aren’t Obama”, right?

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 9:30 PM

The funniest people are those who say they won’t vote for the nominee because they want “to send a message.” How stupid can you get? Don’t they realize the only message they are sending is, “I’m a self-centered drama queen who is an unreliable ally. You might as well ignore me and my issues, because I will desert you on a whim at the first perceived slight.”

Last time, the people who hated John McCain “sent a message” by voting for Bob Barr. Boy, the Party sure turned around to cater to them, didn’t it? NOT!

They want to help reelect Obama, let ‘em. I for one am sick to death of their incessant complaints.

Adjoran on March 30, 2012 at 9:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E45xhepNfc
Bradky on March 30, 2012 at 8:44 PM

The video to which you link has been compromised and is useless. I am very reluctant to accuse Santorum of using the N word and yet the video I saw this morning has him very clearly saying Obama is a nig – NIG full stop. I think he was probably tired and garbled what he was attempting to say. There is no question that the video could be toxic in the hands of people not willing to give Santorum the benefit of the doubt.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Romney wants to be the nominee, but doesn’t have the courage to debate his opponents!

And, this guy wants to be President. What a chicken!

Sparky5253 on March 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Bluegill’s time would be better spent catching stars or building a pyramid.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

On that everyone agrees.

de rigueur on March 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

p

Plus Bush 41 already endorsed Romney….Romney wins by double digits in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Texas

Woody the muffin top and Newt Horndog should drop out now and join Weight Watchers

dang, I am so smart like Michael Savage

nparga23 on March 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Hot Air could set up threads which engender discussion (or at least rants) about Obama’s abysmal record. Instead we get threads which result in more whining and carping from the sore losers.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Ras has Mitt up by 10 in WI in polling from yesterday 44-34

NEWT’S HANGIN IN AT 7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Settle down and think. If you don’t support the nominee then you aren’t part of the base. If the party is too big for you then you can waste your time forming a fringe party. If you think you have it bad now wait ’til you belong to a party with no power.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:07 PM

The arrogance of Mitt supporters, is mind boggling,knowing that they need our votes in the end.

evergreenland on March 30, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Why should I *like* voting for Romney?

That’s up to you. When I canvassed I never spent too much time with that one voter who just might vote for my candidate. You miss out on too many who will vote. The focus now is on Obama. Go to Wikipaedia and read Mitt’s life story. It’s compelling. If that doesn’t persuade you to vote for Mitt, then pray for guidance to help you vote against Obama. Mitt has demonstrated his worthiness to those whose minds are open.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:40 PM

The arrogance of Mitt supporters, is mind boggling,knowing that they need our votes in the end.
evergreenland on March 30, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Begging is unseemly. You are free to help re-elect Obama if that’s fills a compelling need, but for every one of you who take your ball and go home 10 independents and Democrat moderates will vote for Romney.

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:46 PM

I’m Mitt Romney and I approve this message.

At least you’re calming down with the name calling/denigration of the other candidates. Now you just have to work on WHY we should be voting for Romney.

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Listen, I know I sometimes get overexcited and don’t always post the sweetest things about Rick Santorum and other candidates. Still, to say that people haven’t been talking about the countless pros to a Romney general election candidacy and election win is just ridiculous.

Commenters vastly more knowledgeable and able than I could hope to be (e.g., buydanish, basilsbest, crosspatch, priscilla, mountaires, csdeven, joana, etc. etc.) have, in good faith, posted volumes detailing Romney’s record with great specificity and have addressed all kinds of concerns, often conceding some critics’ points. If you choose not to listen or to pretend that no one is posting such information, that is your own fault.

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 10:34 PM

No. Not another debate. At this stage of the game, they don’t handle themselves very well at a debate. They suck.

Mirimichi on March 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Listen, I know I sometimes get overexcited and don’t always post the sweetest things about Rick Santorum and other candidates. Still, to say that people haven’t been talking about the countless pros to a Romney general election candidacy and election win is just ridiculous.

Commenters vastly more knowledgeable and able than I could hope to be (e.g., buydanish, basilsbest, crosspatch, priscilla, mountaires, csdeven, joana, etc. etc.) have, in good faith, posted volumes detailing Romney’s record with great specificity and have addressed all kinds of concerns, often conceding some critics’ points. If you choose not to listen or to pretend that no one is posting such information, that is your own fault.

bluegill on March 30, 2012 at 10:34 PM

The thing is, his record hasn’t been stellar to people that lean on the right side of conservative. This site (or at least the commenters) generally leans further right and why be here trying to sell something if you aren’t going to find something in your product that interests us?

As for your laundry list of “commenters vastly more knowledgeable”, a lot of those people have been nothing but irritants for a long time and before their enthusiasm for Romney. There’s only one on there that I’d bother to engage, the rest are automatically tuned out. I guess that’s the cost of being rude about other things – when you (generic) finally want to get a message across there’s no longer anyone interested. I *know* that I am not the only one that has tuned out your laundry list above.

Nevertheless, thank you for this sane post. Whoever is the R candidate gets the vote with us, whoever it is, but it would be nice to think we’re doing more than voting “not Obama”.

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Us – my husband and I and anyone else I can badger into changing their vote – not speaking for anyone here.

kim roy on March 30, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Basilsbest on March 30, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Sure he was trying to say niger or nigeria although the context of those words in his sentence would be senseless…. defend him all you want.

Bradky on March 30, 2012 at 11:25 PM

I just don’t think they get the level of resistance to Romney that exists within the party.

KickandSwimMom on March 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Yep. They’re still in “the base will get behind us in the general anyway, they have nowhere else to go” la-la land. November 9 is the beginning of a serious third-party movement, because these jackwagons simply cannot be fixed.

alwaysfiredup on March 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

The republican establishment has pushed the base out the door in the past and is totally taking conservatives for granted in this primary.

Surprise, surprise. We aren’t mind-numbed republican party robots. There will be a third conservative party, and the elite republicans will be left with the democrat-lite party they so desire. RIP.

Thanks to hawkdriver for providing this link:

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IndeCon on March 31, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Basilsbest at 9:40 PM on March 30 asserts that Romney has demonstrated his worthiness. Really? I say not. Romney has become the front runner in the GOP race by spending tens of millions of dollars on negative false atatcks, first and foremost on Newt and now also on Rick Santorum, violating Reagan’s 11th Commandment.

Basilsbest says we should go view a video to see for ourselves. Please, we don’t need propaganda; we need facts as to Romney’s record and Romney’s beliefs. At the risk of repeating what I have written before, a review of Romney’s record and beliefs belies Basilsbest’s claims about Romney.

What is Romney’s record? It is certainly not a conservative one. He served only one term in public office as Governor of Massachusetts and did not run for re-election at a time that he had a 35% approval/65%disapproval rating. As for spending during his one term as Governor, Romney increased it, and when graded against other Governors according to the 2005 Fiscal Policy Report Card produced by the non-partisan Cato Institute, Romney got a D. As for job creation during that one term, the Massachusetts state economy ground to a halt with Romney as its steward and ranked 47th out of 50 states. During his one term as Governor, Romney increased fees and taxes by over $740 million. As for entitlements and growth in Government during his one term as Governor, Romney created a brand new entitlement (RomneyCare) and then mandated that all individuals purchase health insurance and all employers with 11 or more employees provide it; RomneyCare is socialized medicine at the state level. As for health insurance costs during that one term, according to Beacon Hill Institute at Suffolk University in Boston, state health expenditures increased by $414 million, private health insurance costs increased by $4.311 billion, federal Medicaid for Massachusetts increased by $2.418 billion, and Medicare expenditures increased by $1.426 billion for a total increase of $8.569 billion in RomneyCare’s first five years. During his one term as Governor, Romney appointed pro-abortion rights Democrats the state judiciary, he appointed litigation-happy environmentalists to key government jobs, he flip-flopped on cap and trade, he flip-flopped on carbon taxes, and he made the following promise about a coal-fired plant: “I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people.” And while he was Governor, Romney was adamantly pro-abortion rights. Romney says he was a severely conservative Governor. Baloney; the facts say otherwise.

What are Romney’s beliefs? While Newt was a “Young Turk” captain in the Reagan Revolution, Romney voted for liberal Democrats Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale and Paul Tsongas. Now Romney is supposedly a conservative? The problem is that when it comes to beliefs, Romney is a flip flopper. Romney was adamantly pro-abortion rights until around 2006 when he started running for President. The “Etch-A-Sketch” comment of a campaign manager for Romney was on target. Romney will say what he needs to fulfill his political ambitions. That is what he learned in the private equity world to seal the sale, and all that what the video is that Basilsbest cites is, is salesmanship about someone who does not have a conservative record and does not have a core of beliefs.

That is not what the Republican Party candidate for President should be about.

Phil Byler on March 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Phil Byler said: “RomneyCare is socialized medicine at the state level.”
Mind you, I’m NOT in favor of regulating health care INSURANCE at any level of government, but since State Governments regulate most other types of insurance (Auto, Property etc.) I’d rather have the State’s individually regulate Health Insurance than have the Fed’s do it.
And while I am a diehard Newt supporter, I can’t help but feel that if the State of Massachusetts voters decided they wanted Romney Care, that’s their decision to make. And, conversely, if they don’t want to keep Romney Care, then the same voters could have it repealed.
Oh and btw it IS the Republican Party, NOT the Conservative Party.

realwest on March 31, 2012 at 10:14 AM

I am also a diehard newt suppporter, realwest, and I actually agree with you that if Massachusetts wants RomneyCare, then Massachusetts can have it, along with the skyrocketing costs it entails. That’s the price of federalsim. RomneyCare, however, is more than just insurance regulation. It is a comprehensive system of controls that effectivly transfers to the state the decision making in health care. Sort of like the difference between having a cold and having leukemia. You can call both illnesses, but you can live and function with the cold whle the leukemia will kill you. My point is that we don’t want a GOP Presidential candidate responsible for RomneyCare, which Romney has never disavowed and which is the blueprint for ObamaCare.

Phil Byler on March 31, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Two words, “Brokered” “Convention”.

Conservative_Hippie on March 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM

“We are people that want to make sure the Republican Party candidate is capable of defeating a guy that we think would be a disaster to reelect” …

So let’s all stand behind the Republican Liberal and allow him to lead us all into a liberal hell of his own devising. WEEEEeeee… /s

Brokered convention and/or third party.

DannoJyd on March 31, 2012 at 12:59 PM