Does it matter that the Ryan budget doesn’t balance?
posted at 3:40 pm on March 29, 2012 by Tina Korbe
As the House passes Paul Ryan’s latest budget, a minor controversy brews outside Congress about whether it matters that, according to the CBO, it doesn’t balance.
The controversy is occurring on the conservative side of the aisle — but it’s easy for liberals to exploit. Some lefties are already suggesting Ryan’s budget is proof positive that we can’t balance the budget without raising taxes, for example, and/or reviving the argument that, if deficit reduction really matters and Republicans refuse to raise taxes, then all spending cuts — including cuts to defense, which the Ryan budget reverses — should be on the table.
If we don’t want to become mired again in a debate about whether we should raise taxes, then now is the time for conservatives to rally around Ryan. For balanced budget diehards, the purest reason to support his budget is that Ryan says the budget will definitely balance by 2040 and could could balance within 10. Even if other experts are right that the U.S. might never have a balanced budget again, though, supporting Ryan’s budget is still the best way to avoid Obama’s tax trap, as The Wall Street Journal explained in a recent editorial:
The GOP critics are wrong on the economics and politics. Mr. Ryan’s plan may not balance the budget within 10 years, but that’s the wrong policy guidepost. Mr. Obama can easily balance the budget faster—by raising taxes.
Mr. Ryan wants to avoid a tax increase and reform the tax code because he realizes that the budget will never balance over the long term without economic growth faster than today’s 2% a year. By stressing budget balance over growth, Mr. Chocola and the tea-party critics are falling into Mr. Obama’s deficit and tax trap. …
They are also playing by the Beltway’s big-government budget rules. The critics on the right are judging Mr. Ryan’s budget according to Congressional Budget Office estimates that assume little or no economic benefit from better policy. Mr. Ryan’s official budget proposal follows CBO scoring, but he is also trying to break out of that straitjacket.
Voters have every reason to be skeptical of Republican promises, but Mr. Ryan’s budget is hardly a status quo document. It’s light years better than the Tom DeLay budgets of the 2000s.
Mr. Ryan is thinking ahead of his critics by focusing on the two most important priorities: growth and reform. Without both, limited government will be nothing more than a tea party slogan and a balanced budget will be nothing more than a tax-increase trap.
Similarly, shrinking from supporting the portion of Ryan’s bill that protects defense spending just encourages liberals to encourage spending cuts in that area. The Constitution mentions “providing for the common defense” as a major purpose of government, though. Surely, it shouldn’t be the first place we look to make cuts — and we have good reason to reevaluate the specific defense spending cap that was included in the Budget Control Act. In case you’ve forgotten, it was included to try to compel Republicans on the Super Committee to agree to tax hikes.
The Ryan budget enjoys the support of House leadership, most of the GOP faithful and leading conservative voices. While I’m always sympathetic to those who criticize policy from the rightmost possible perspective, this is definitely one of those occasions when we need to rally around the plan that exists instead of waiting for a perfect plan that nobody has presented.
Update: This post originally mistakenly suggested the CBO had corroborated Ryan’s claim that the budget would eventually balance, but CBO can’t actually project beyond 10 years. My thanks to Guy Benson for the correction.
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Bishop????
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Yep!!!
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 10:41 PM
The Presidential News Conference Cliff’s Notes: Somebody Needs A Nap!
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:42 PM
Either he’s trying to lower expectations so that whatever he does accomplish will seem more impressive or he’s trying to lull the opposition into a false sense of security.
cynccook on April 30, 2013 at 10:43 PM
evening Ken!
he took six questions LOL and even Dana Milbank wrote a piece today called “A presidential bystander”
CoffeeLover on April 30, 2013 at 10:43 PM
There are several possibilities for the lethargy:
1) Jason Collins turned him down.
2) He’s tired of Valerie Jarrett’s hand in his colon
3) The Benghazi fiasco is about to hit the fan.
4) He’s simply a douche bag
SouthernGent on April 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Dick.
What else it there to say..
Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Axe,
The reaction from Her upon reading your ballad;
I had asked her to read it and if she would like it as a women and was it romantic enough to touch her heart, now you know.
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 10:45 PM
‘Toon of the Day: Lame-Duck Dynasty
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Jackie linked to the Milbank piece on the Obamacare thread. This is what I picked out. He didn’t want to be there. He was acting as if someone pushed him out and told him that he had to do it.
This is pathetic.
He only wants the power and perks—no responsibility.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Yep, Valerie is the man…Dear Leader is merely her performer. Good times..! #Benghazi
d1carter on April 30, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Damn that demarcation of authority!
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Obama. Whiner-in -Chief. What a narcissist. He can’t admit that he has had any failures, much less address them and tell us his plans for fixing them.
I think he should ‘pack up and go home’… to…
Sweet Home Chicago
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Hi CL! Uh oh, Sophie’s already here, and she looks pretty…..Awesome!
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 PM
So it would seem that in about 4 days, I will embark on a journey with my lovely and talented wife that will land me in the vicinity of you, Fred, SWalker and portlandon, and christen, so many Hot Gassers in close proximity, this could prove interesting indeed.
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 PM
You jogged my memory of the way Obama acted at the first debate. People later thought he was expecting Benghazi to unravel.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 PM
This guy would have made a great Roman Emperor. Right toward the end.
trigon on April 30, 2013 at 10:49 PM
or
5) options 1,3 and 4.
HumpBot Salvation on April 30, 2013 at 10:49 PM
:):):)
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Sweet. Jackie too!
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 10:49 PM
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Anyone seen HAL around today?
LMFAO!
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Obama is a bat faced bish that should be chopped down in his prime.
tom daschle concerned on April 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Guys, he’s not a leader. That’s it. He’s used to calling leaders and sitting on committees with leaders, scratching his chin, and moving around behind actual leaders. Think about his “Pelosi days.” Right now, he’s got nothing.
/imo, etc
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Anyone with an IQ over 90 shakes the Indonesian Dog-Eating Imbecile up. Barky is one mind-numbingly stupid person. He really couldn’t even pass a normal 9th grade equivalency test. He’s just lucky that affirmative action let’s an idiot like him glide through when in a normal society he’d still be stuck trying to finish junior high school.
And, yet, as stupid as he is, Barky acts as arrogant as all get-out. It’s amazing, really. He knows what an idiot he is. He saw his SAT scores (though no one else was allowed to peek and have a laugh). Unfortunately, we did get to see a few of his near illiterate scribblings and we’ve been subjected to his attempts to appear smart by saying things that no 8th grader would even say – “profit AND earnings ratios!” … “reduce premiums by 3000%!!” … “I don’t know if you have this phrase in Austrian” …
I would love to have some reporter just ask this sub-moronic twit, “What is 3/8 – 5/12?”
I’d rather have Incitatus in the White House. At least the horse has some skills. Barky has none. Not a one.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Poor Zero.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Anyone seen HAL around today?
LMFAO!
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Yeah..on life support at Detroit General.
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
It looks like I am being screened specifically…
Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM
You were Ab-Fab last night.
Brava!
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM
lol — well? Are you going to link it? It’s like a shrine. :) O! You mixed @twerp and @hal down there . . .
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Better than being screened generically.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 10:54 PM
H/T Drudge:
UK DAILY MAIL: Saudi Arabia warned USA IN WRITING about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012, and rejected his application for an entry visa to visit Mecca in 2011… Developing…
crrr6 on April 30, 2013 at 10:54 PM
PS: Please thank her for me, Fox.
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Dick.
What else it there to say..
Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM
El Pinga Grande
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM
He can rouse the rabble, but I usually think of leadership as a positive trait. Good leadership is hard work, because you have to solve problems, cut through the knots, and get people to work together. Agitate and divide is all he knows and wants to do.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Huh?
Sophie’s my friend, you eejit!
FLINK!
*runs*
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM
I love the Hot Air Ladies of the Night.
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM
AP..
Why am I being screened?
Is dick a bad work when addressing our prez?
Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM
I hope I never need a lawyer..
but I have one in mind should I. ;)
She wears a pirate patch too.
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Milbank and others on the LEFT are puzzled and disappointed over Obama’s obvious detachment.
Not so long ago these were the SAME PEOPLE who marveled at his ‘aloof coolness’, and said he was ‘above the fray’ and ‘the adult in the room’ and called him “The One” and marveled at his ‘elegance’.
David Brooks nearly swooned over the crease in his trousers and thought to himself ‘This man could be president’.
The reason Obama is ‘detached’ is simple. He’s suddenly found that he’s the member of a far more exclusive club that the one to which his admirers belong.
He’s one of “The Five Living Presidents”. He knows that being the “First Black President” will secure his place in the history books. He’s even got “The Nobel Peace Prize” to hang on his wall. He’ll have a very expensive library named after him containing all of the material thought fit to be relevant to him and his reign… er… his presidency. He’ll be paid BIG MONEY for the rest of his life just to TALK about being “The First Black President”.
Frankly, he doesn’t need any of his erstwhile supporters or admirer’s anymore. And he knows it.
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM
I beg your pardon?
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM
work..
Word
Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM
But I wouldn’t call that leadership. My definition might be technically off the mark . . . will examine. :) But leadership is fundamentally constructive. Even a warlord could keep his people arrayed and lead them somewhere.
I’ll try it another way: It looks like Obama is waiting for someone’s lead to follow. (Which would say everything, if it were true.)
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Talk to the hand!!!
smellthecoffee on April 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM
LOLOLOL
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Well #4 is a given.
Here’s hoping #3 comes to pass.
gophergirl on April 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Hey, baby! How ya doin?
Here, put this in your doc ammo belt. You guys, too. You’ll never have to say ‘HAL, sing “Daisy!’” again without adding his ultimate ‘Welcome to the Jungle/Highway to Hell/Living After Midnight/Symphony of Destruction’ all-rolled-into-one humiliation link:
Finally! HAL Sings Daisy…And Crickets!
Snort.
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Sure Ken, love me last night..no love today..
out of my list. ;)
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM
SPARKY!!!!
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Already done, and I know this is going to inflate your head but she said it was refreshing to read such good work considering the crap she has to look at daily in the biz. Btw, she tweets, so I think we will hook this up when I get back so we can tweet with a few people on here as we travel across country, do her good to have intelligent people to chat with anyway, Scrumpy already started the trend:)
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM
whaaaaaaat? I meant she’s got a post with a typo. She attributed something you said to HAL, something HAL said to you.
You know, looking after you guys is difficult work.
And come back here so I can thwack you.
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM
SPARKY!!!!
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM
lol..makes you cooler in court.
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Night shift.
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM
HAS ANYONE SEEN SCRUMPY?
I’m worried about her.
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM
I ain’t no lady..so I don’t count. ;)
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Ah… an important distinction. :) Good evening, Ken. Good to see you.
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Jarrett has too much power and too much control.
Manchurian? No, not to that extent, but his MO is passive-aggressive. P-A’s don’t do much leading, because it goes against who they are.
I agree that leadership is fundamentally constructive—that’s why I’ve always thought of it as a good thing.
Bad leaders are autocrats, authoritarians, dictators, tyrants, etc.
In fact, I’ve wonder why we have numerous words for bad leaders, but it’s hard to think of a word for a good leader.
I agree.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 11:04 PM
You’re sill on my list!
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 11:04 PM
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM
You mentioned me?
I’m honored!
Sharing on my FB page, if I may.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM
@b9 :)
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen!!
How’s ya’all doing? :-)
Scrumpy on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
There is a T that goes in there somewhere…
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
It’ll be interesting to see how long his shame sabbatical lasts. lol
Thank you. You play a supporting role in the HAL’s ultimate destruction ammunition. Use it.
Just did. Save it for future reference when you really want to humiliate him.
I went back and looked. Where did I mix them up?
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM
I don’t know what I am. I should check. *looks down shirt* Yep-I’m a girl.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
She blurred through last evening (that’s a fast in and out) long enough to say she’s still going news-free and feels great.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM
Scrumpy! Spritely One! I’m delighted to see you. :)
How are you?
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM
I am pretty sure she’s ok, she’s been emailing the wife:)
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM
Ah, there she is.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Thanks INC. I appreciate it. :) Good evening. :)
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Hey, Jackie!
INC on April 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM
[♫♪ Bum bum bum bum bum ♫♪]
♫ Dear ol’ Kenya, here I come!
Right back where I started from. ♪
♫ Where piles of corpses rot in the sun
Because of my pappy. When it’s the same way here then I’ll be happy. ♪
♫Oh Karl Marx said “Spread the wealth around!”
Burn the economy to the ground! ♪
♫ Now America is hell bound!
Dear ol’ Kenya HERE I COMMMMMMMMMMME! ♪
Glenn Jericho on April 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Thanks, MarshFox. I appreciate it. Good evening. :) Getting short now, huh? :)
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM
OF COURSE I mentioned you. You nailed him on his hypocrisy over discrimination and minority status…and I got to springboard off of it to show…ONCE AGAIN…that math is hard, it is even harder when you’re stupid, and it is downright impossible when you are a Progressive like Hot Lips.
You can use it however you want. FB, if you want. Save it for future use. Either or both is fine.
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM
I keep missing you! Good to see you :-)…
Mostly all packed up I hope for the plane ride home :-)
Moi start a trend?… Lol thank you :-)
I just want to say, you both are so BLESSED!!
God Bless you M and Mrs M {hugs}…
Scrumpy on April 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Huh.
My ego already has it’s own orbital path dude. Don’t sweat it. :) And I really appreciate that compliment. Twitter OK. Etc. :)
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Chrissy!! I’m smiling.
KCB on April 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Pic of the Day: Control
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 11:10 PM
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM
Jackie! I am just fine thank you! I did blur thru last night but had an early start… sorry guys!!
Got my second round of treatment and I feel wonderful!! :-D…
Summer is gonna be soooooooooooooooo good!! ;-D
Scrumpy on April 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM
Barack Obama is the son of a thousand tyrants, all bastards like him.
VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM
@b9 :)
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
TY
@ AXE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXfbnS_BybQ
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Yep. You hit the nail square on the head with this one. Good analysis.
PatriotGal2257 on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM
I’m so glad for you Scrumpy, and relieved to hear it. :)
thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM
It must be racist to not give black Obama as much power as white Stalin and Hitler had.
VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Um . . . counting from the bottom with you as #1, then #2, #3, #4 are inverted. The first part, not the underneath attribution. :) The underneath doesn’t match the left-most.
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Hi Ken, I am smiling too!! SEE :-D
Scrumpy on April 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Getting short indeed, she was like, it is almost surreal, and I had to agree, after two years of being continuously apart, I can’t even begin to describe it. Kadena will be the last thing I see:)
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Now that the wordsmith are all here, I have a question. Is there one English word that means a good leader? Are there a lot of them?
I mean a word that would be a counterpart to autocrat, tyrant, dictator, etc.
INC on April 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM
I don’t know what I am. I should check. *looks down shirt* Yep-I’m a girl.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM
That small eh? lol!
I kid.
I was teasing..Lady in the streets, a freak in the _______
A song.
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Glad you’re back as well and glad to hear you are feeling better!
PatriotGal2257 on April 30, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Hi Scrump! :)
Hi, Gopher! (WYAN). I didn’t see you come in. Which is weird, considering the giant mascot costume.
Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM
I thought you said you couldn’t bra carry? So how do you look down your shirt and tell? Hmmm?
wolly4321 on April 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Priceless.
VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM
‘God’ fell to earth…but don’t be fooled.
Amnesty will destroy the land. With Obama’care’ his job will be done, in great part. This leech will have sucked the might and life out of the land, for good.
Go to Hades all of you who brung/kept him. May you and yours suffer incredible woes. This includes all who stayed home, who voted for RP and assorted scumbags and scumhags.
Schadenfreude on April 30, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Since I have given up watching news, I just come here to read a headline and if it isn’t interesting to me, I don’t go to it…
Nothing has changed, 0 is still the same nasty piece of work he ever was… Everyone else is still lying their asses off…
Is EG still here? Seems he was having an issue/censor thingy…
Scrumpy on April 30, 2013 at 11:16 PM
HiYA scrumps-hope last treatment was a success!
bazil9 on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Good to see you, Scrumpy!
williamg on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Thanks Scrumpy, she was just mentioning you, she has some deadlines she’s been working on, her newest stuff due to come out this month, she wants the deck cleared for when I get home, but she should answer you back tomorrow:)
MarshFox on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM
She (RWM) wears a tanga to cover her other patch. Axe is getting hot flashes. (:
SparkPlug on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Axe, which one is wrong:
6 million Jews are unavailable for comment.
Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM
He quotes Mark Twain…then he can’t finish a sentence, the fool.
The autostart of the videos at HA sucks, sucks, sucks.
Schadenfreude on April 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM
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