Chris Matthews: I’m pretty surprised to learn that the mandate might be unconstitutional

posted at 8:28 pm on March 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Newsbusters and Ace, who points to Karl’s piece in the Greenroom as a reminder that our very open-minded friends on the left have a little echo-chamber problem of their own. Says Jay Cost:

The problem for the left is that they do not have a lot of interaction with conservatives, whose intellects are often disparaged, ideas are openly mocked, and intentions regularly questioned. Conservative ideas rarely make it onto the pages of most middle- and high-brow publications of news and opinion the left frequents. So, liberals regularly find themselves surprised when their ideas face pushback.

I think that is exactly what happened with Obamacare. The attitude of President Obama (a former con law lecturer at the University of Chicago, no less!), Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid was very much that they are doing big, important things to help the American people, why wouldn’t that be constitutional? No less an important Democratic leader as the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee cited the (nonexistent) “good and welfare clause” to justify the mandate.

Having no intellectual sympathy for the conservative criticism of this view, they rarely encountered it on the news programs they watch, the newspapers they read every day, or the journals they peruse over the weekends. Instead, they encountered a steady drumbeat of fellow liberals echoing Kagan’s attitude: it’s a boatload of money, what the heck is the problem?

Fair points all, but look: Even I was surprised at how hostile the conservatives on the Court seemed to be towards the mandate. That’s not because I’m reading back issues of The Nation, it’s because the painful fact remains that the Supremes almost always let Congress do any ol’ thing it wants when it comes to regulating commerce. Remember the terrible, terrible Raich case? That wasn’t the Warren Court and it wasn’t a 5-4 decision. It was 2005 and it went 6-3 thanks to — ta da — Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. It came fully 10 years after the landmark Lopez case, which was supposed to herald some new golden age of limits on the Commerce Clause but hasn’t borne much fruit yet. Maybe ObamaCare is where it’ll pay off, or maybe Scalia’s point during oral arguments that “commerce” doesn’t include people who haven’t yet bought insurance will save the day. But it’s not pure leftist hallucination to think that 70 years of the Court letting Congress run wild with economic regulation might lead to them rubber-stamping the mandate too. Remember, even a conservative judicial eminence like Laurence Silberman upheld the mandate at the appellate level. I’m on record as of today in believing that the Supremes will, in fact, uphold it too on a 6-3 vote with Roberts writing a very narrow majority opinion. Can’t blame the left for being surprised that the Commerce Clause suddenly exists. Although you can, of course, blame them for dismissing conservative legal objections to the mandate simply because they’re conservative. That’ll never change — their sense of infallible intellectual superiority is too precious to them. But it’s fun to see it shaken.


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Go for it! Well wishes to you.

bazil9 on March 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Thanks.
No one worry it’s not a big deal.

MontanaMmmm on March 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Chris Matthews: I’m pretty surprised to learn that the mandate might be unconstitutional

Easy to happen when you suffer from a terminal case of cranial-rectal insertion…

Khun Joe on March 29, 2012 at 9:44 PM

MontanaMmmm on March 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Me, you and Pred can just post from our laptops in bed as we recuperate. :)
Glad it isn’t serious.

bazil9 on March 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

I have to rise with the chickens, so I’m gonna do a little reading and then hit the rack.

‘Night MM and b9. Catch ya on the flop.

predator on March 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

No way in hell will Kagan – or Sotomayor, for that matter – keep her yap shut about it. They’ll tell their liberal masters the vote the day it is cast.

That’s what I think may happen too. We may be able something by the way O and his surrogates behave. If they go into immediate and sustained demogaguery of SCOTUS, they’ve lost. If they remain calm and tell everyone to wait for the decision, and continue the implementation of O-care, we are hosed.

Mayday on March 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

The Justices are going to meet and vote and assign majority and dissent writing chores very soon. Then they are supposed to hold close the decision until it is released near the end of the session in late June. 3mos from now. No way in hell will Kagan – or Sotomayor, for that matter – keep her yap shut about it. They’ll tell their liberal masters the vote the day it is cast.

rayra on March 29, 2012 at 9:36 PM

They will meet tomorrow, take a “vote” and assign opinions on the case or cases they heard this week. The senior Justice in the majority will assign who will write the majority opinion and the senior Justice in the minority will assign who will write the minority opinion.

The opinions will then be circulated to all the Justices, and then the dissenting opinions will be circulated. It goes back and forth until all the opinions have been agreed to or not, or joined in or not. The Chief Justice then will decide on when the final opinion will be published.

On the really big cases, like this one, it will be published in the last week or, here, probably the last day of the term, in June. This allows the Justices to get the hell out of town and avoid the security issues, and in this one they could be serious.

TXUS on March 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

And Mr. Tingles worked for “Tip” O’Neill…

Gohawgs on March 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I’m on record as of today in believing that the Supremes will, in fact, uphold it too on a 6-3 vote with Roberts writing a very narrow majority opinion.

Will Diana Ross vote with the Supremes, too?
/

WhatNot on March 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

bazil9 on March 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

We might end up like Dr. T!/

MontanaMmmm on March 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

‘Night MM and b9. Catch ya on the flop.

predator on March 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Nite pred, I’ll post a tune on QOTD for ya.:)

MontanaMmmm on March 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Crissy spews so fast that spittle literally flies from his mouth and smacks the camera lens. It happens.

SparkPlug on March 29, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Well, for my money, nobody can project spittle more effectively than Olbie. I kinda miss him…

climbnjump on March 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Predator-sweet dreams.

bazil9 on March 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I would love to see PPACA struck down but I think AP’s right. Wickard blew a huge hole in the concept of limited government, and the last 70 years haven’t made it any smaller.

DrSteve on March 29, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Well, for my money, nobody can project spittle more effectively than Olbie. I kinda miss him…

climbnjump on March 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Just take a Dremel grinder to one of your teeth. You’ll get the same effect but you won’t have to look at him.

Oldnuke on March 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Well, for my money, nobody can project spittle more effectively than Olbie. I kinda miss him…

climbnjump on March 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

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Just take a Dremel grinder to one of your teeth. You’ll get the same effect but you won’t have to look at him.

Oldnuke on March 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

.
EEEEYYYAAAAAAAaaaaaauuuuggghhh ! ! !

It hurt just reading that.

listens2glenn on March 29, 2012 at 10:24 PM

I do beleive that the plan for Obamacare (by Pelosi et. al.) was that by the time it got to court it would be “SO POPULAR” with the regular folks that the Obama Administration was going to Dare The Court to overturn it.

jaydee_007 on March 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Well, for my money, nobody can project spittle more effectively than Olbie. I kinda miss him…

climbnjump on March 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Just take a Dremel grinder to one of your teeth. You’ll get the same effect but you won’t have to look at him.

Oldnuke on March 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

While Exceptionally Distressing and Graphic in nature, that description can only qualify as accurate.

jaydee_007 on March 29, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Nobody is “surprised” by anything they already know.

The sum total of what would “surprise” Chris Matthews, would fill Amazon.com

listens2glenn on March 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I am sure there are alot of things that surprise Chrissy. Being on MSNBC is like living in a desert with no communication whatsoever. Understanding reality requires minimum brain function and that puts Mathews at a definite disadvantage.

volsense on March 29, 2012 at 10:38 PM

I’m on record as of today in believing that the Supremes will, in fact, uphold it too on a 6-3 vote with Roberts writing a very narrow majority opinion.

Harry Reid is drafting The Affordable Brocoli Act, as we speak.

carson53 on March 29, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Although you can, of course, blame them for dismissing conservative legal objections to the mandate simply because they’re conservative. That’ll never change — their sense of infallible intellectual superiority is too precious to them. But it’s fun to see it shaken.

That is the entire left in a nutshell..

They do not compromise, they don’t listen to opposing views, because they are obviously wrong just because it’s in opposition to their perfect selves… they do not care that other opinions exist, because they don’t deign to recognize them… well not exactly…

They care very much that we exist in opposition.. or they wouldn’t spend every waking moment attempting to silence our leaders. They absolutely do not consider the market place of ideas a useful place.. They pretty thoroughly hate it, constantly try to shut it down.

They left are clownish in their childlike notion that they just cannot be wrong, ever..

I learned from an early age, that a real man, owns up to his mistakes, a liberal learns that real liberals don’t make mistakes,.. they will blame everybody else,.. but they never own up to error..

If they could on occasion, admit error, they might listen to opposing views.. but they don’t.

we went round and round with that fool dbear, and he couldn’t admit that Obama was making the racial situation worse.. had to be us, because the left NEVER owns up to error.

Even when shown the clear history of the GOP’s long support for civil rights, he ignored that, even though he raised the issue, and had his assumptions rammed back up his azz. He was wrong.. and cannot admit it, because all his leftwing bobbleheaded friends agree..

Why they always fail, they can’t learn from mistakes they never admit to making

mark81150 on March 29, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I would love to see PPACA struck down but I think AP’s right. Wickard blew a huge hole in the concept of limited government, and the last 70 years haven’t made it any smaller.

DrSteve on March 29, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Yeah, sure, but this blows away everything else. Maybe the four liberals will stamp their feet, but the remaining five will look at each other and say that this is just a bridge too far.

BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Sorry. But I don’t get how anyone could be surprised. If the Obamacare mandate is allowed to stand, there’s no longer such a thing as limited government.

Murf76 on March 29, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I’m on record as of today in believing that the Supremes will, in fact, uphold it too on a 6-3 vote with Roberts writing a very narrow majority opinion.

I find this a very cynical position – namely that our conservative justices will at the end of the day – jettison their principles for the sake of “splitting the baby”. Maybe they will, but surely such a bold overreach of the state over individual liberty cannot inflict a pause in the conscience of good men.
Starlink on March 29, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Very cynical indeed. I believe it will be 5-4 to not uphold the IM and also to throw the whole thing out. I do not believe the liberals on the court can let go of their partisianship even though it’s obvious that they thought the government’s case was weak.

Vince on March 29, 2012 at 11:30 PM

It’s amazing how insular, provincial and parochial big city progressives are.

Never overestimate them.

forest on March 29, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Chris Matthews: I’m pretty surprised to learn that the mandate might be unconstitutional

Gee, maybe the MSM isn’t just traitorous. Maybe they are simply monumentally stupid and mis-educated.

minnesoter on March 29, 2012 at 11:47 PM

The attitude of President Obama (a former con law lecturer at the University of Chicago, no less!)

Ronnie on March 29, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Thrill goes up. Thrill goes down.

Ronnie on March 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Does the man have no brain in his head? If you actually know ANYTHING about civics then it was obviously and is obviously unconstitutional. If the SC doesn’t find it as such then the whole basis of the constitution is just going to come crashing around our ears. It must be found unconstitutional or the whole social contract is a garbage.

Karmashock on March 30, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Well, for my money, nobody can project spittle more effectively than Olbie. I kinda miss him…

climbnjump on March 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Just take a Dremel grinder to one of your teeth. You’ll get the same effect but you won’t have to look at him.

Oldnuke on March 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

DANG, that hurt. Excuse me, I gotta go call my dentist…

climbnjump on March 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

LOL!! Look at Major Garrett. HE KNOWS this is crap! He KNOWS obama care is unconstitutional. LOL! He’s just trying to be diplomatic while enjoying tinkles squirming.
>:D

Handel on March 30, 2012 at 12:19 AM

All the arguments made against the Obama Affordable Care Act in front of SCOTUS are the same ones that have been made from the beginning. The only difference is you can’t scream “Shut Up you toothless redneck!” and “You’re a d!ckhead!” to your opponents in front of the Justices.

Dark Star on March 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Remember Kelo vs. New London, CT? I guess I didn’t see that one coming. Still find it hard to believe that seizing someone’s private home and giving it to a private developer is proper application of eminent domain and constitutional.

DrStock on March 29, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Me, too, DrStock.

Alana on March 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

The White House (through the MSM) is already setting up a face-saving mechanism for the White House if/when any part of the Obama Affordable Care Act is struck down. The Solicitor General screwed up, Congress wrote a flawed bill, the Supreme Court are evil and stupid and do not understand the genius of Obama, the people of the United States do not deserve such a magnanimous and saving gift from our Lord and Savior President Obama, etc. Heck, the entire Trayvon Martin case (as tragic as the whole situation is) is being used as nothing more than cynical ploy by Obama to distract the public from this major fail of his “legacy.” I think the White House knows which way the SCOTUS is leaning (i.e., Kagan isn’t going to keep her mouth shut — she’s already told Obama how the vote is going down).

Hence, I’ll go on record that SCOTUS will declare the Obama Affordable Care Act unconstitutional (hey, we’ve both got a 50% chance of being right) because the beauty of being an “appointed for life” Justice on the SCOTUS is that you don’t have to give a f**k what the POTUS, the Congress or the public thinks about you. Roberts isn’t going to vote with the liberals to fundamentally change the peoples’ relationship with the government just to make it “appear” that the court isn’t divided — especially not for an Act that is so overwhelming hated by the general public.

Dark Star on March 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

“The attitude of President Obama (a former con law lecturer at the University of Chicago,” now just a Con Man

stormridercx4 on March 30, 2012 at 3:02 AM

AP’s position exists because the assumption is the justices will pander to Congress and a “minority” president.

I tend to be a whole lot more cynical than you. (though your point is a valid one)

1/ AP writes this (in my opinion) from the position that most liberals do. He’s seen the history of the USSC ruling on the Commerce clause over the last 70 years. It has invariably called anything that moves or breathes, commerce. To AP, if it’s utilitarian, like APPA, the Constitutional principles arre immaterial.

2/ As is typical of liberals, AP likes to “rub it in” in order to gain readership through controversy aka playing devils advocate. You could call AP, Ed’s liberal intellectual(oxymoron intended) counterpart from the left on HA so that it meets the “fairness” test journalism. Or something.

DevilsPrinciple on March 30, 2012 at 3:13 AM

At the end… Chrissy is so distraught. It’s delicious.

“oh God, it’s an easy one for the Republicans if they (the Administration) take a beating on this….”

Go listen to it again. And again. And again.

MiloX on March 30, 2012 at 4:34 AM

LOL!! Look at Major Garrett. HE KNOWS this is crap! He KNOWS obama care is unconstitutional. LOL! He’s just trying to be diplomatic while enjoying tinkles squirming.
>:D

Handel on March 30, 2012 at 12:19 AM

That tingle in Crissy’s leg must have moved up to his rectum.

tbear44 on March 30, 2012 at 6:01 AM

stormridercx4 on March 30, 2012 at 3:02 AM

The lawyer ladies on FOX have more on the ball than anyone I have seen in this administration.

I know paralegals with more con law expertise than our POTUS.

I promise, I would bet on it if they were given a test.

IlikedAUH2O on March 30, 2012 at 6:29 AM

Now it’s gone…gone…gone…wooooooh.

Rusty Allen on March 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Country song?

Hint..

Electrongod on March 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Could be country:

. . . gone like a 57 Cadillac
like all the good things
that ain’t never coming back
gone . . . gone . . . gone

BigAlSouth on March 30, 2012 at 6:30 AM

their sense of infallible intellectual superiority is too precious to them. But it’s fun to see it shaken.

indeed

cmsinaz on March 30, 2012 at 6:59 AM

That’ll quell that quivering leg problem you have Chrissy.

Don L on March 30, 2012 at 7:05 AM

No time to go into a long diatribe on Matthews and MSNBC. But, I will say this.
If Obamacare getting questioned before the SCOTUS suprised you, what else are you unaware of.
” Ignorance is bliss”

Jabberwock on March 30, 2012 at 7:12 AM

Little Chrissy is now beginning to learn that every nice thing you want done isn’t of necessity Constitutional.

And he will soon be shocked to learn that every bad thing cannot be redressed by regulation or law.

This comes as a shock to the Left.

Yet it is but the nature of man at work.

ajacksonian on March 30, 2012 at 7:40 AM

I’m sure the commie bastard Chris Matthews is even surprised we have a constitution…you’d never know it the way Obama’s been shredding it, maybe if Chris throws the Obama kneepads away he might notice some other things…as it is his view will never change!

insidiator on March 30, 2012 at 7:47 AM

While Exceptionally Distressing and Graphic in nature, that description can only qualify as accurate.understatement

jaydee_007 on March 29, 2012 at 10:27 PM

:)

VelvetElvis on March 30, 2012 at 7:51 AM

What many fail to realize is that the failures we have in the Medical Insurance industry are “Failures of Socialism.” Government mandates that hospitals cover people who can’t pay for “free” is one problem. Allow cross state commerce with regards to medical insurance, eliminate ALL mandates for coverage and let insurance companies provide “catastrophic coverage only” policies and prices would plummet. Make people responsible for their medical bills just like they are for their food and shelter.

BierManVA on March 30, 2012 at 8:24 AM

As Scalia put it, “What then is left”? After all, surely they know that these clowns could have written it as a tax, put in severability, and not pursued extortion on the States. …

Starlink on March 29, 2012 at 10:38 PM

The problem with Congress for many years has been the prevalence of extortion on the states – from highways bills, to national speed limits, to Medicaid the use of extortion is a way of life for them.

Dasher on March 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM

There is a chance the WH is ok with Kagan to vote this law down to earn some cred… Cred that she will use when Single Payer HealthCare is shove down our throats…

If u’ve been here long enough.. U know that AP will always have the melting chocolate bunny all queued up… That’s just his style… You guyz should of read his stuff during the 2004 election…lol

Y314K on March 30, 2012 at 8:45 AM

It’s confirmed; Matthews is a dolt.

LizardLips on March 30, 2012 at 8:51 AM

“That’ll never change — their sense of infallible intellectual superiority is too precious to them. But it’s fun to see it shaken.”

It should be less fun to see that four justices on the Supreme Court are totally in the tank for liberalism. Not only are the determined to pass the bill regardless of its constitutionality but they have been jumping in to help the White House advocate and making his arguments for him when he wasn’t up to it.

All it takes is one more judge like that, and conservatives won’t get a hearing or a roll of the dice on any topic.

David Blue on March 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Whether Obamacare will pass judicial muster is second only to the highly entertaining hilarity I’m observing on the part of the left. Without exception they’re pretty much tinkling all over themselves with premature angst that their holy grail may be judged to be nothing more than a Dixie Cup and thrown out. From print to video, I recommend you read and watch all you can. Nothing Saturday Night Live has ever produced has been this funny to watch. And if the courts decide to strike down the mandate? Oh…my…gawd!!! While I hope they do for practical reasons, I have to say that I hope they do for the world class hilarity that will ensue! And if they do, I hope there are video cameras in the Oval Office to capture Obama’s rolling around on the floor throwing a toddler tantrum. And will Michelle go full Rambo on our a$$?

PorchDawg on March 30, 2012 at 10:37 AM

There is no constitutional support for this mandate. Zero.

So I can only pray that five of these justices remember they they swore to uphold the Constitution. Not the Obumbler administration. Not what seems “just” or “prudent” at the moment.

Perhaps we need a borrowed catchphrase for our liberal friends:

“It’s the Constitution, stupid.”

Grace_is_sufficient on March 30, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Podhoretz from the NY Posy yesterday put it this way:

“They’re so convinced of their own correctness — and so determined to believe conservatives are either a) corrupt, b)
stupid or c) deluded — that they find themselves repeatedly astonished to discover conservatives are in fact capable of a)
advancing and defending their own powerful arguments, b) effectively countering weak liberal arguments and c) exposing
the soft underbelly of liberal self-satisfaction as they do so.

They live in their own little “lib world”. They have little concept of reality outside of life’s most basic urges and needs. They are to be pitied – but after they are slapped down in the next election!

Michael73501 on March 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Mathews and his ilk have always reminded me of two famous quotes…

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
- William F. Buckley, Jr.

and to the point,

As Pauline Kael once wrote, disbelieving the outcome of the Nixon-McGovern election of 1972, “Nixon can’t have won; no one I know voted for him.”

Leading me to…

“There is so much to be said in favor of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated it keeps us in touch with ignorance of the community.” Oscar Wilde

JIMV on March 30, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I’m pretty surprised to learn that the mandate might be unconstitutional

It must be hard being Chris Mathews . . . .

EconomicNeocon on March 30, 2012 at 11:30 AM

All it takes is one more judge like that, and conservatives won’t get a hearing or a roll of the dice on any topic.

David Blue on March 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

It’s always been the silliest of notions that all our freedoms granted to us ONLY by “Nature’s God”strong>” could be jeopardized by the vote of one politically appointed lawyer, who might have as a goal the very destruction of that freedom. They have no semblence of what they treat as mere legal machinations -that which cost 53 million their lives and now those very real death-panel bureacrats lay salivating to ration life itself in the name of almighty economic efficiency.

Men of good will and sterling character hardly exist anymore in this once great nation – and it is we that are to blame.

Don L on March 30, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Chris Matthews: I was pretty unprepared

This pretty much sums up all of Chris Matthews’ work.

landlines on March 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I really wonder how a genuinely unintelligent mediocrity like Matthews ever can see himself as being even passably intelligent.

ghostwriter on March 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM

The Justices are going to meet and vote and assign majority and dissent writing chores very soon. Then they are supposed to hold close the decision until it is released near the end of the session in late June. 3mos from now. No way in hell will Kagan – or Sotomayor, for that matter – keep her yap shut about it. They’ll tell their liberal masters the vote the day it is cast.

rayra

I think you are correct.

Looking at the clock, it is now 9:35am here in San Francisco. That means it’s 12:35pm in DC.

So many elderly judges on SCOTUS means they generally begin to nod off in the afternoon. If they voted today, which they said they would, then it was almost certainly before lunch, lest the “senior citizen afternoon nap” issue interfere with the voting.

So it is likely they have already voted — our nation’s fate has already been decided.

Ten seconds after the vote, Kagan had to excuse herself to go to the “ladies’” room, where she took out her cell phone and immediately called her puppetmaster on his private line, and told him how the vote went.

So that means Obama ALREADY KNOWS how the court voted on this. Right now. As we speak.

After a day or two, he likely will have been able to regain his composure, but I think for the next 24 hours, his face and demeanor will reveal the outcome of the vote.

So, everybody: Closely examine Obama’s mien and general bearing in photos and videos from this afternoon and tomorrow. If he looks haggard and in desperate need of about 5 nicotine patches, then the nation is safe. If he’s dancing a conga line with his caddy on the 14th hole, we’re doomed.

Zombie on March 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM

How does Chris Matthews have a job still?

56andwarmweather on March 29, 2012 at 8:32 PM

*shrug* Sharpton still has his, and he’s even worse.

sage0925 on March 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

The courts have a chance to push this back to the legislature. They simply say that the mandate should have been presented as a tax and tell congress that for the law to stand they must do so. The left will have a baby about it, but if they would have written the law properly in the first place they wouldn’t be in this fix. They tried to push this abortion on us by slight of hand and now (hopefully) it will come back to haunt them.
I do believe the minute they vote, Obama will know the outcome. I can’t believe that the word won’t get out, too much riding on it.

buckeyerich on March 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I just don’t see them throwing it all away. There is less harm to the Constitution in just throwing the baby out with the bath water and tell Congress to start over. Otherwise, any “narrow” opinion causes lasting damage.

Starlink on March 29, 2012 at 10:38 PM

I agree, Starlink. Maybe it is wishful thinking on my part, but I suspect that Roberts and Kennedy will side against the mandate. If for no other reason than simply weighing the damage that Congress could do with such a hole blown in the Constitution with recourse to restrain that power very limited versus telling Congress to “stuff it” on this law.

gravityman on March 30, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Chris Matthews should recuse himself from offering an opinion on any subject more intellectually weighty than which shoe goes on which foot.

Guy is a walking, talking demonstration that liberals have no embarrassment bone. Anyone who appears on that show alongside his beady-eyed self would be mortified if they were so-equipped. No, his coupla hundred thousand shut-in, last-living Tip O’Neill-nostalgic viewers must be worth the price to his guests’ self regard, or, more likely, their self regard is unassailable.

curved space on March 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

What is it with Chris Matthews, Anderson Cooper, and John King that they speak so fast? Half the time I miss what they are saying.

On second thought, keep it up…

Colony14 on March 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Chris Matthews is a retard who is too dumb to see Obama for what he is, an arrogant anti-American puppet who can only read from a teleprompter.

jqc1970 on March 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

This is as scary as it can be. The only argument I’m seeing from the left on why the mandate is constitutional is that full participation is necessary for the insurance market. They argue that people not participating affects the price for others, therefore all must particpate.

This principal has far reaching consquences. There are many things we chooose NOT to do because we don’t want to, but the liberals have completely different ideas about what the necessities of life are. They have shown they believe that intercourse is a health need, not want, but a necessity, and we should pay coporeally to protect women from the “dangers” of pregnancy. It could allow them to mandate electric cars, totally oblivious to where the electricity comes from and that a lot of America doesn’t live within 40 miles of everything you would ever want.

The mandate, at the very least, MUST BE RULED unconstitional.

PastorJon on March 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Hey Tingles, If you ever ventured outside the liberal bubble you live in, you might actually understand reality better.

californiacitizen on March 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM

“I’m pretty surprised to learn that there’s a world outside my rectum”. – Chris Matthews

Finbar on March 30, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Chrissy says he never thought politically that this could be overturned? WOW – this might be the Freudian slip of the year!

drunyan8315 on March 31, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Chris, why are we not surprised that your are for believing the agenda totally. I have been laughing at your leg tingles that you say you have when you talk of the Emperor. It’s amazing what happens when you get a good dose of the truth dumped on you.

mixplix on March 31, 2012 at 6:08 AM

What could prove rather interesting is if the Supreme Court ends up upholding the mandate, with the reasoning that the Commerce Clause is insufficient to actually bound the government from doing much of anything.

Voyager on March 31, 2012 at 9:28 AM

I’d be very surprised if the court affirms ObamaCare. In the oral arguments, it seems even Sotomayor has expressed some skepticism of the government’s arguments.

netster007x on April 2, 2012 at 12:21 AM

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