Spike Lee does the wrong thing

posted at 11:00 am on March 28, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

On more than one occasion regarding the subject of the Trayvon Martin shooting, I have warned people about jumping to conclusions ahead of a thorough investigation.  Unfortunately, we have a great demonstration of exactly how that can have potentially deadly consequences.  Filmmaker Spike Lee thought he’d teach George Zimmerman a lesson by tweeting his home address to the world, apparently hoping for a little vigilante justice.  However, Lee tweeted the wrong address — twice — and instead put an elderly couple at risk:

Filmmaker Spike Lee made waves on Twitter last week when he re-tweeted to his 200,000 followers (h/t Twitchy) what was thought to be George Zimmerman’s home address in Sanford, Florida. Mr. Zimmerman told Sanford police last month that he fatally shot 17 year old Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

However, the Edgewater Circle address Mr. Lee re-tweeted out is not part of the gated Retreat at Twin Lakes where the shooting took place and where Mr. Zimmerman lives. The area is not even a gated community.

In fact, I took a drive to that Edgewater Circle address that so many on Twitter re-tweeted and cursed, and I discovered through a neighbor, named Tim, who lives across the street from the address, that not only does George Zimmerman not live at the lakeside house but a woman by the name of Elaine does.

As of this morning, Lee has not removed the tweets from his feed, according to Twitchy.  Perhaps Lee will “do the right thing” by this morning and delete them, because the couple that does live at the address Lee tweeted are understandably frightened about their safety.  The Smoking Gun reports on the McClains and the attention they have received from Lee’s messaging:

In an interview tonight, Elaine McClain told TSG that she and her husband were “afraid” due to the online linking of her address to Zimmerman. “We’re keeping everything locked,” she said. McClain added that the couple was particularly unnerved by a letter mailed to them at their home. On the envelope, she said, were printed the words “Taste The Rainbow,” the slogan for Skittles. Martin was carrying a pack of Skittles and a can of ice tea when he was gunned down by Zimmerman.

McClain said her husband returned the envelope unopened to the post office.

And how did this happen?  Poor research and jumping to conclusions:

Besides overlooking the different middle initial, perhaps that answer is connected to an old voter record for a “William George Zimmerman” at the Edgewater Circle property. That registration, which dates back to 1995, is for a 41-year-old man. The Zimmerman who shot Martin is 28.

Elaine McClain identified William George Zimmerman as her son, noting that he has not lived at the Edgewater Circle residence for seven years.

Jim Treacher points out the irony in this story:

If you’re against vigilantes taking matters into their own hands, except when it comes to dealing with George Zimmerman, #YouMightBeALiberal.

I notice Spike hasn’t been working much lately. I hope he’s been saving his money. Lawyers can be expensive.

Even if the address had been correct, it still would have been the wrong thing to do.  Lee should be ashamed of himself.

The original concern in this shooting incident was that the investigation into the shooting of an unarmed 17-year-old seemed cursory and insufficient.  Thanks to the national attention the case has draw, we now have two major investigations under way, one by the Department of Justice (an investigation endorsed by Rep. Allen West) and another by the state of Florida.  While it’s unlikely that the media will stop reporting tidbits of the story without knowing their full context, the rest of us should wait to see what facts can be established by these two investigations before jumping to any more conclusions — and before putting innocent people at risk like the McClains.

Update: Danny Glover puts Lee and Marcus Higgins in the Twitter Hall of Shame.


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You seem to comprehend little if it’s not tweeter chat level.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I think you may have it confused as to who the person lacking in comprehension is, but I’ll just let your deflections stand on their own merits.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

So there are some?
hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Obviously, yes. You’re offended by idiotic comments about toothless supporters, I take offense at people who luxuriate in someone’s death (even if there is some evidence that person was a punk). The former is stupid, the latter is what I would categorize as a bannable offense, but of course that decision is up to Hot Air management.

BTW, I’m not so willing to give Ed a pass on his statement:

There is no situation where a confrontation you initiated, in which you were never threatened with mortal danger, can be legally ended by you using lethal force. Zimmerman should be charged with manslaughter or maybe even second degree murder under Florida law.

While it’s true that statement followed an analysis of Florida law, he did not know and still does not know the facts of the case, does not know if Zimmerman was threatened with mortal danger, and therefore cannot conclude Zimmerman should be charged with manslaughter or second degree murder.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Maybe we should reset the voting age to 25 or so then?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Well the Feds think people under 26 qualify for mommy’s and daddy’s health insurance. So if they seem to think that a 25 year old is incapable of getting his/her own insurance, why not follow that logic. Maybe they’re incapable of getting car insurance or even a driver’s license or voting or drinking or smoking.

Deanna on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Sorry I’m a 2-fingered typist.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Sorry for the typos. I wish there was an edit option.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The person you were talking to did not mention the race of Trayvon. He talked about his AGE. Argument fail.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Just reading between the lines and not defending the poster’s accusation, but I think he was trying to mock the old canard that blacks’ mental capacities are less than those of other races. Lots of nuance to fight through.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Actually this couple have no moved out of their home to an unknown location, they are very scared.

They are getting much hate mail and threats not to mention Lee has yet to even speak on this although he has to be aware of it.

The address was also on signs at all the rallies and the Black Panthers also had the address on signs as well

Karla1953 on March 28, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Maybe we should reset the voting age to 25 or so then?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Hey! Spawn turns 18 on Sunday-and he’s a good conservative.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:22 PM

The real tragedy behind the Trayvon Martin incident is about all the future innocent white people who are going to be beaten and murdered by black [in your pc world African-American] thugs. Black on white violence goes way under reported and is already at catastrophic levels in many locals. It is now going to escalate thanks to Obama and Holder and Lee and Sharpton and their crew of auxiliaries and enablers.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Just reading between the lines and not defending the poster’s accusation, but I think he was trying to mock the old canard that blacks’ mental capacities are less than those of other races. Lots of nuance to fight through.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

If so, then it was quite the stretch…but YMMV.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Sure, having someone follow you is annoying as heck (especially if you’re up to no good), but you can’t justifiable beat someone up for it.

The leftist meme seems to push the “white guy was following a black kid due to racism, so the kid had every right to bounce his head off concrete” theory.

Sorry, doesn’t work that way.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Yeah, there has to be a reasonable person standard otherwise you would be allowing anyone to punch out anybody who they didn’t like who approached them.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

On the other hand, I can’t be convinced that its not unjust to stalk someone at night, approach someone (according to the GF this happened. According to Zimmerman it did not), and then not be expect to carry the responsibility when you get in a fight with someone when you initiated the confrontation.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Approaching someone on a public street is not a justifiable reason to attack and attempt to kill them.

All accounts show that Zimmerman did NOT initiate violence. You may only respond with violence to violence. Being pissed off because someone is following you does not give the right to initiate violence.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

You seem to comprehend little if it’s not tweeter chat level.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Says the guy who hasn’t actually made an argument the entire thread, but has managed to cheer someone’s death and call a poster a racist without anything to back it up.

Then you will forever remain in a state of arrested development.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Pott. Meet kettle.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM

So there are some?
hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Obviously, yes. You’re offended by idiotic comments about toothless supporters, I take offense at people who luxuriate in someone’s death (even if there is some evidence that person was a punk). The former is stupid, the latter is what I would categorize as a bannable offense, but of course that decision is up to Hot Air management.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I’m just surprised after your crusade to have me not point out what I thought was some pretty offensive comments, that you seem to be willing; so long as they meet your metric. Would it help if you published what you consider over the top?

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This whole matter, uncontested by the numerous more racially charged reports of black on white crimes, and the black community’s apathy towards the self-inflicted ‘genocide’ within their own neighborhoods only helps to paint the picture of how they excuse one set of violent acts and play victimization to the nines with another. The left couldn’t be more pleased with the results of their indoctrination agenda.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I think whether Ed wrote that or not is in doubt. Rereading the post it looks like he is quoting the Florida emailer to me.

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Just reading between the lines and not defending the poster’s accusation, but I think he was trying to mock the old canard that blacks’ mental capacities are less than those of other races. Lots of nuance to fight through.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I dunno. That’s the same argument Kennedy used to find that executing those who commit capital murder when they are under 18 y/o is unconstitutional, i.e., their little brains are not fully formed.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Says the guy who hasn’t actually made an argument the entire thread, but has managed to cheer someone’s death and call a poster a racist without anything to back it up.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM

After considering what a capella said, he may have been being sarcastic, but if so, he should have clarified his point, rather than take a superior attitude.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

The real tragedy behind the Trayvon Martin incident is about all the future innocent white people who are going to be beaten and murdered by black [in your pc world African-American] thugs. Black on white violence goes way under reported and is already at catastrophic levels in many locals. It is now going to escalate thanks to Obama and Holder and Lee and Sharpton and their crew of auxiliaries and enablers.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

The issue here isn’t the fact it was a white on black crime. A lot of these cases that I’ve seen people bring up with the pretense “OH WHY ISN’T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THIS XYZ BLACK ON WHITE MURDER” and the reason is because the police did their job. Either the person was arrested or they are actively trying to find the perps. The justice system is working in these cases as it should. As a black person, I had no desire for example to see the knoxville couple killers go free. I think they belong in jail which… they are!

I think its the overall culture that not only made Zimmerman confront someone who was basically doing nothing and “looked suspicious” but the police handling of the case. I think if he was arrested and let the jury decide whether its a reasonable case of self-defense you wouldn’t see the media attention you see now. The media attention did not occur until 2 weeks after the incident. Right after the incident, Zimmerman was taken in, questioned and then the DA basically prevented the lead investigator from filing manslaughter charges because he believed there wouldn’t be a case. However, there wasn’t really anything resembling a real investigation. No one knew Trayvon was on the phone with his girlfriend for example and she had insight on what happened because no one care to ask or investigate that angle.

Essentially the “investigation” was superficial at best and Zimmerman from the get go got the presumption of innocence and Trayvon the presumption of Guilt. If the parents never brought this to the media this would of been swept under the rug.

The reason its a s***storm now is due to how the police handled the case…

Like I said in my previous post, its a good thing this is being investigated now to the fullest extent and at this point people just need to see what happens with the grand jury and stop wanting to find zimmerman guilty or innocent in the moment.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM

It’s obvious the left does not care about Trayvon dead or alive, its his behavior they are protecting. Trayvon himself in his profiles promote the thug image and the more we learn about him the more we find out that was the lifestyle he was pursuing. He was raised to be a soldier in a army to bring down society playing right into the hands of he left.

A kid was killed by a psychotic cop killer waiting for a bus to go to college and he was working 2 jobs to support his son, and the left did not get behind the college student, or the dead cops, because that is not the kind of behavior they are promoting. They are behind the psychotic cop killer.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM

This whole matter, uncontested by the numerous more racially charged reports of black on white crimes, and the black community’s apathy towards the self-inflicted ‘genocide’ within their own neighborhoods only helps to paint the picture of how they excuse one set of violent acts and play victimization to the nines with another. The left couldn’t be more pleased with the results of their indoctrination agenda.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

No kidding. Really? Ya think? Why don’t you go preach to a higher class choir?

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM

So, if someone follows you for 30 feet, you have the right to punch them repeatedly causing GBI? On what planet?

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Everyone needs to go to their corners and let the grand jury go over the case and allow time for justice to take place.
Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Amen. That isn’t to say it can’t be discussed and debated, but drawing conclusions about guilt/innocence/punishment is waaaay premature. It’s bad enough we have the Black Panther & Spike Lee vigilantes acting with impunity, we don’t need blog vigilantes compounding the problem.

The real tragedy behind the Trayvon Martin incident is about all the future innocent white people who are going to be beaten and murdered by black [in your pc world African-American] thugs. Black on white violence goes way under reported and is already at catastrophic levels in many locals. It is now going to escalate thanks to Obama and Holder and Lee and Sharpton and their crew of auxiliaries and enablers.
RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Heh. Apparently it hasn’t occurred to you that when you make remarks about Trayvon’s funeral you essentially contribute to the escalation.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

After considering what a capella said, he may have been being sarcastic, but if so, he should have clarified his point, rather than take a superior attitude.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

He was chastizing Paul right before he called him a racist, and called his previous comment one of the dumbest, most anti-science things he’d ever heard.

But maybe he was just trying to be sarcastic. He’s probably still reading, so maybe he’ll fill us in.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Black on white violence goes way under reported and is already at catastrophic levels in many locals. It is now going to escalate thanks to Obama and Holder and Lee and Sharpton and their crew of auxiliaries and enablers.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Which of course is the intent. Get enough white people scared of what might happen if Obama is voted out that they will vote for a 2nd term.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Some enterprising web site should just compile a monthly ‘scorecard’ and simply show who is committing violent crime on whom-i. e. Black on Black, White on White, White on Black and Black on White. We’d ALL see pretty quickly who the REAL criminals and racists are.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I see former Black Panther turned Congessman Bobby Rush does his Trayvon imitation and gets thrown off the House floor. http://www.drudgereport.com/

You know, as someone who survived the 60s and 70s I still find it hard to believe how people have come to accept Rush, Hayden, Ayres, etc let alone elect them to public office or allow them to teach. Sigh…

Deanna on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

So, if someone follows you for 30 feet, you have the right to punch them repeatedly causing GBI? On what planet?

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

According to the left’s own theory, Zimmerman would have been justified in shooting Martin as soon as he walked up to him.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Facts mean very little to those who want to capitalize on cases like this. However, they would no longer be able to paint Whites as racists if everyone were aware that Blacks commit MANY times more violent crimes on Whites than the reverse. For the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world to even suggest that Blacks are victims of Whites on any large scale is ludicrous. Blacks prey upon other Blacks most often. Numbers don’t lie. Victicrats and their helpers do.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Approaching someone on a public street is not a justifiable reason to attack and attempt to kill them.

All accounts show that Zimmerman did NOT initiate violence. You may only respond with violence to violence. Being pissed off because someone is following you does not give the right to initiate violence.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I consider actively stalking someone, who tries to run away from your stalking, THEN getting out of your vehicle to chase the person down, a hostile act. I guess we’ll just have to disagree with this. However, imagine your daughter came home and told you “dad I was being trailed by this guy in an SUV down the street and then I tried to lose him and he got out of his car to chase me”. Why isn’t Trayvon given the same right to be scared, angry, upset in response to in other situation would be an incredibly creepy act.

I’m not saying Trayvon was right IF HE DID initiate physical contact first (we still don’t know and there are still gaps at this point) but at the same time he was told not to go, granted hes not required to listen to the 911 operator, and he was adamant on making sure “these a**holes dont get away with it”.

Stalking someone is a hostile act to me and again I ask you to consider if you have a daughter how she would feel under the circumstances.

I hate to bring anecdotal incidents into a debate but I just have to explain my feelings on this issue. As some people might of saw, there was an article on people’s reaction to this movie the hunger games and one of the characters being black. One of the tweets someone picked out was how this guy didn’t feel sad that one of the characters died because she was black. It was less sad to him. Quite frankly, I don’t think hes alone in that sentiment and I think black life IN SOME PEOPLE’S EYES is viewed as less valuable and there is less empathy for them. I think this attitude also contributes to wanting to make Zimmerman complete free of any responsibility. Even if he is fully protected by the current law…it just seems wrong to me. Say if I have a beef with someone and I want to take them out. What stops me from going up to someone, instigate them, and then when I get push back, under the pretense of self-defense shoot them dead. There is something wrong with that.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Such a shame, I really thought Spike Lee had been moving away from this kind of defeatist mindset. Miracle At St. Anna was an excellent film (his best in my opinion) and it was rife with intra and interracial misunderstanding, animosity, coming together and healing (Italians and blacks). Why Spike, why?

RepubChica on March 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Is there not a law against publicly revealing the generally unknown address of someone who is clearly at retaliation risk or under death threats? Spike Lee seems to have wanted some vigilante “justice”. At least a lawsuit seems to be in order.

Chessplayer on March 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Oh, stop it! You don’t get to change the facts. He called 911, Martin saw him on the phone and ran right past him, ZMan got out to see where he ran to, when the operator asked if he was following him, he said yes, the operator said there was no need to do that, and then Zman said okay. They then talked about meeting the officers. Zman said that he then was walking back to his truck.

You using loaded words like stalking, chasing etc. is BS. Stalking has a specific definition under the law and this is not it.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Martin’s parents should take a good long look in the mirror for the cause of their son’s demise, not at whites nor society in general. The numbers don’t lie. Blacks in increasing numbers have a different culture and it centers around doing what they want, saying what they want and not being accountable. Rules and regulations don’t apply to them and if anyone dares to speak, they and their enablers play the race card.

This “culture” has been progressively getting worse since Lyndon Johnson was president. Perhaps the tragic irony is it took a president willing to play the race card right along with Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Spike Lee and what looks like a big majority of blacks to get this country to quit feeling undeserved guilt for the position that blacks find themselves in. A position that they put themselves in. You can choose to be responsible and reap the rewards or choose to be irresponsible and criminal and reap the results. There is a simple rule in life that anyone can understand-”we reap what we sow.”

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Stalking someone is a hostile act to me and again I ask you to consider if you have a daughter how she would feel under the circumstances.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Great point that should absolutely be considered in deciding whether to prosecute in this case.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Salking someone is a hostile act to me and again I ask you to consider if you have a daughter how she would feel under the circumstances.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

You feeling are irrelivant – legally you are not justified initiating violence when no violence has been used against you.

You call the police, you don’t elude the person following you, turn around and jump them, punch them in the face breaking their nose, knock them down, and bounce their head against the concrete sidewalk with the intent to kill them. Which is what all the evidence shows happened.

You do get to defend your life when someone is trying to kill you by bouncing your head off concrete – which is completely legal in every state in the union.

See the difference?

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Great point that should absolutely be considered in deciding whether to prosecute in this case.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Since neither of you know the definition of stalking and are misusing it here, it’s actually a very stupid point. You’re welcome.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Some enterprising web site should just compile a monthly ‘scorecard’ and simply show who is committing violent crime on whom-i. e. Black on Black, White on White, White on Black and Black on White. We’d ALL see pretty quickly who the REAL criminals and racists are.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Here’s one chart that was up at Ace’s.

Someone in another thread had something that showed black crime against non-black (not just murder) was way higher than non-black against black, but I don’t remember which thread that was in.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I’m just surprised after your crusade to have me not point out what I thought was some pretty offensive comments, that you seem to be willing; so long as they meet your metric. Would it help if you published what you consider over the top?
hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

What the hell are you talking about? I’m not on a crusade, I never told you not to point out what you thought was offensive. My issue was that you were criticizing me (and others who I have nothing to do with) for not joining your outrage over a comment you posted and reposted numerous times. I told you the commenter was an idiot but that wasn’t enough.

As for “publishing what [I] consider over the top” I just gave an example. Making jokes about someone’s death and funerals- crosses the line for me (unless it’s someone like Bin Laden or Al Zarqawi) as it crosses into Fred Phelps territory. What more do you want? A manual?

I think whether Ed wrote that or not is in doubt. Rereading the post it looks like he is quoting the Florida emailer to me.
NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Did you email Ed? If that’s the case it needs to be corrected because I went back and re-read it and did not draw that conclusion.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Stalking someone is a hostile act to me and again I ask you to consider if you have a daughter how she would feel under the circumstances.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

She would feel like cold cocking the stalker and then pummeling him endlessly with her fists seeing if she could fuse his head with the concrete.

Have you ever heard of anyone who did not already have a restraining order issued against them being convicted of a crime for following a person around?

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

liberal4life on March 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM

…That’s rich baby!…Coming from the biggest bigot
on the blog!

KOOLAID2 on March 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

So, if someone follows you for 30 feet, you have the right to punch them repeatedly causing GBI? On what planet?

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Without coming across as a dyed-in-the-wool, over the top, premier racist … there’s a white culture/black culture thing going on here. (P.S. — I’m lily white myself) “You disrespect me, you get in my face, I take you down. I’m black. Being belittled, shamed, put down, that’s a lot worse than a little physical pain. I am a black man. In the past I was a slave, but now I’m a free man. Don’t disrespect me. You do, and I will hurt you.”

Realclearblue, what do you think about that?

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I’m not saying or agreeing that stalking occurred, only that the possibility it did should be considered. I wasn’t there, and neither were you. All the facts should be explored of course.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Forget it Danish. Quite done with your hysteria.

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 1:55 PM

STOP SAYING HE STALKED THE GUY

FLORIDA

Section 784.048. STALKING; DEFINITIONS; PENALTIES. 1997.

(1) As used in this section, the term:

(a) “Harass” means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(b) “Course of conduct” means a pattern a conduct composed of series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of “course of conduct.” Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.

(c) “Credible threat” means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.

(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or harasses another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or harasses another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury, commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(4) Any person who, after an injunction for protection against repeat violence pursuant to s. 784.046, or an injunction for protection against domestic violence pursuant to s. 741.30, or after any other court-imposed prohibition of conduct toward the subject person that person’s property, knowingly, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or harasses another person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(5) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or harasses a minor under 16 years of age commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, so. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(6) Any law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person he or she has probable cause to believe has violated the provisions of this section.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Have you ever heard of anyone who did not already have a restraining order issued against them being convicted of a crime for following a person around?

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Zimmerman was neighborhood watch. In Cincinnati, where we’re sick of murders in Avondale, a black area of town, there’s a neighborhood watch that takes to the streets. From the neighborhood. Predominantly black. They watch people. That’s what they do. They want to take back their neighborhood from the thugs. Not everyone they see is a thug. They’re trying to help the situation.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

But in this case, race was the motive for the shooting, clear as day.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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It should be easy to settle this particular dust-up you have started.

You have made a very definitive, unequivocal statement of “fact”.

So, all you have to now do is present, for all reading here, your definitive, unequivocal, unbiased “proof”.

Yoop on March 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Anyone else notice JetBoy just seemed to dissappear when asked to back up his statement? Must have had an important meeting to get to.

Come to think of it, all of our lefties who’ve been commenting regularly in the Zimmerman threads must have important meetings today…

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I’m not saying or agreeing that stalking occurred, only that the possibility it did should be considered. I wasn’t there, and neither were you. All the facts should be explored of course.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Bull. Again stalking has a specific legal definition.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Stalking someone is a hostile act to me and again I ask you to consider if you have a daughter how she would feel under the circumstances.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

I expect that my daughter will not punch him in the nose hard enough to knock him to the ground, and then try a beat-down by repeatedly pounding his head into the sidewalk.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I’ve been noticing the left is trying to float a new narrative, that Zimmerman was a “creepy stalker” stalking a “young black boy”.

Such obvious nonsense, but they’re desperate since their other memes have fallen flat.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Game,..set,..match.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I expect that my daughter will not punch him in the nose hard enough to knock him to the ground, and then try a beat-down by repeatedly pounding his head into the sidewalk.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Then don’t have a grandson with a dog collar.

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I think this attitude also contributes to wanting to make Zimmerman complete free of any responsibility. Even if he is fully protected by the current law…it just seems wrong to me. Say if I have a beef with someone and I want to take them out. What stops me from going up to someone, instigate them, and then when I get push back, under the pretense of self-defense shoot them dead. There is something wrong with that.
Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

You’re dealing in hypotheticals. I liked it better when you said we should wait for the Grand Jury.

Oh, stop it! You don’t get to change the facts. He called 911, Martin saw him on the phone and ran right past him, ZMan got out to see where he ran to, when the operator asked if he was following him, he said yes, the operator said there was no need to do that, and then Zman said okay. They then talked about meeting the officers. Zman said that he then was walking back to his truck.
Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

You don’t know the “facts” either. None of us do. We have nothing but bits and pieces at this point and in no way have the full picture of what happened. Can we wait for the grand jury, please?

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Such obvious nonsense, but they’re desperate since their other memes have fallen flat.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

They can’t back down from this now. It’ll morph into something.

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

I will not be able to attend Martin’s funeral but I will try to remember to send a nice card saying that I approve.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

You’re a piece of work, aren’t you? First last night you toss out this charmer:

re: Obama

Blonde slave boys may be a different matter though. Or so they say.

RasThavas on March 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

and now this gem.

Really, just stop. This site doesn’t need this garbage and I doubt any of us want to be associated with it.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Did you email Ed? If that’s the case it needs to be corrected because I went back and re-read it and did not draw that conclusion.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Just sent a simple request for a clarification.

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

You don’t know the “facts” either. None of us do. We have nothing but bits and pieces at this point and in no way have the full picture of what happened. Can we wait for the grand jury, please?

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I know it does not fit the legal definition of stalking. Try reading it before you try to lecture me.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

If this goes to trial and they even mention stalking, it could lead to a mistrial. It’s inflammatory and there was no stalking. Again, stalking is a crime with a specific legal definition.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Again stalking has a specific legal definition.
Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Of which you are obviously the all-knowing, all-seeing Grand Poohbah of authority. *DEEP BOW*

Again, you weren’t there.

Get over yourself Your Highness.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Game,..set,..match.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Well, it proved a waste of my time to post it.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Really, just stop. This site doesn’t need this garbage and I doubt any of us want to be associated with it.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Stop stalking me, you deranged hall monitor perv. And I suggest you put another 40 mattresses over that pea, princess.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Of which you are obviously the all-knowing, all-seeing Grand Poohbah of authority. *DEEP BOW*

Again, you weren’t there.

Get over yourself Your Highness.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Don’t boast about your stupidity. Again, stalking has a specific legal definition. There was no stalking.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Can we wait for the grand jury, please?

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

So, what do you want to talk about on this thread?

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Stoking that racial divide is good business. Sells his movies and pay’s for Jesse Jackson’s and Al Sharpton’s expensive houses.

PorchDawg on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

But in this case, race was the motive for the shooting, clear as day.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 11:47 AM

————————————————–

It should be easy to settle this particular dust-up you have started.

You have made a very definitive, unequivocal statement of “fact”.

So, all you have to now do is present, for all reading here, your definitive, unequivocal, unbiased “proof”.

Yoop on March 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Anyone else notice JetBoy just seemed to dissappear when asked to back up his statement? Must have had an important meeting to get to.

Come to think of it, all of our lefties who’ve been commenting regularly in the Zimmerman threads must have important meetings today…

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I was just getting ready to repost that and comment about the “crickets” when I read your post.

It almost feels like a magic when a request can make somebody disappear like that.

Yoop on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

It almost feels like a magic when a request can make somebody disappear like that.

Yoop on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

You have a special gift. Use it only for good.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM

The reason its a s***storm now is due to how the police handled the case…

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM

You leftists really are stupid, you know.

Sanford Police Originally Wanted To Charge Zimmerman

early in the investigation police requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Really, just stop. This site doesn’t need this garbage and I doubt any of us want to be associated with it.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Stop stalking me, you deranged hall monitor perv. And I suggest you put another 40 mattresses over that pea, princess.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Unfortunately, I was assaulted by your stupidity unexpectedly. I don’t normally stalk losers and morons, so not to worry about that one.

You go dance on the grave of a dead boy and mock his parents. Looks good on you and anyone who supports that crap. You make us all look bad.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Yoop on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

I think JetBoy knows he had a wicked logic fail and would rather not have to revisit this thread ever again.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

The Channon Christian, Christopher Newsome horror along with the young teen set afire in St. Louis and mobs of black teens playing the knock-out game, never targeting those referred to by our esteemed, intelligent, fair minded Attorney General “MY People” Holder, even ignoring the “Get Whitey Night” at a state fair. Not worthy of National news coverage due to, let’s guess. Not worthy of hate crime prosecution, as we all have been told minorities cannot be racists, even as we listen to the overwhelming brotherly love rhetoric from the Nation of islam, New Black Panthers and past sermons from a pastor that tutored our president for 20 years and toss in the innuendo asides from the Congressional Black Circus to complete the loving scenario absent on our national screens.

Include a bounty placed on an American citizen by an organization without any authority to even exist in this country if the powers that be would prosecute the new hate speech doctrines they are placing in the schools and workplaces of America. Freedom of speech now regulated to only, let’s guess again.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Wow. You think this description is charged?

Martin, 17, was gunned down February 26th while walking

I guess, if by ‘while walking’ you mean ‘while pounding a skull to near coma’, then yea.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Here’s the updated statute which adds cyberstalking: http://goo.gl/wYRxx

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Notice how rapidly the narrative has shifted this week?

First it was a white guy executing a child because he was black.

Then it became a ‘white hispanic’ doing the same.

Then, when more facts came out and it started look like a more justiiable case of self defense, the blame shifted to the corrupt police department.

Now it’s shifting to the prosecutor who said there wasn’t enough to go to trial.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

If I go out for a walk after dark, and I wonder inside the gates of the local “housing development build around a Jack Nicklaus designed golf course,” and I start getting followed by the rent-a-cop on duty, I do not have the right to pound on the rent-a-cop. If I do, and he’s packing, I probably should not have the expectation to live through the encounter.

MNHawk on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM

You go dance on the grave of a dead boy and mock his parents. Looks good on you and anyone who supports that crap. You make us all look bad.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Although you do seem to have competition, you must be this web site’s number one Drama Queen/Hall Monitor/Madam Prissy. As to his so called “parents” maybe they should have raised him in a proper way so as not to deserve being “mocked” while they are trying to now get rich over his demise. As to “look bad” frankly, princess, you look like an hysterical ninny.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

A 6’3″ young black male attacks an hispanic Neighborhood Watch male, breaking his nose. The young black male is on top of the hispanic male, beating on his head, when the hispanic male pulls his legally carried gun and shoots the young black male once, killing him.

So the Democrat Party gets in lather against the hispanic male. There are death threats, etc. The President comments on how his son would have looked like the young black male.

However, if the story was a bit different, say like:

A 6’3″ young hispanic male attacks a black Neighborhood Watch male, breaking his nose. The young hispanic male is on top of the black male, beating on his head, when the black male pulls his legally carried gun and shoots the young hispanic male once, killing him.

That scenario wouldn’t bother the Democrat Party at all. The President certainly wouldn’t have made a comment. Chances are high none of you reading this would have ever heard about it.

Seriously: Why do the Democrats hate hispanics?

fadetogray on March 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Side note: ZIMMERMAN WAS NOT AN OFFICIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH. HE WAS SELF-APPOINTED. I’ve seen a few people posit that he was acting under an air of assigned authority. That is false. Please stop spreading that lie.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

According to the HOA, Zimmermann had been appointed to the neighborhood watch; and made its captain.
In fact, he had assisted in the arrests of other burglars in the community; and his neighbors spoke quite highly of him and of his work.

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Wow. You think this description is charged?

Martin, 17, was gunned down February 26th while walking

I guess, if by ‘while walking’ you mean ‘while pounding a skull to near coma’, then yea.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/03/28/more-rallies-on-tap-to-demand-justice-in-trayvon-martin-murder/

Yep. Which leaves the question, what kind of dumb@$$ still watches CBS News. That is blatantly false reporting. He was shot at close range. That isn’t in dispute.

MNHawk on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Even if the address had been correct, it still would have been the wrong thing to do. Lee should be ashamed of himself.

If anything happens to this couple, they should sue Lee, mostly for being a jackass.

Actually this couple have no moved out of their home to an unknown location, they are very scared.

They are getting much hate mail and threats not to mention Lee has yet to even speak on this although he has to be aware of it.

The address was also on signs at all the rallies and the Black Panthers also had the address on signs as well

Karla1953 on March 28, 2012 at 1:22 PM

If that is true, then Lee should definitely be sued! He put these innocent people in harms way out of spite and hoping to incite vigilante “justice”.
And he is still a jackass.

Sterling Holobyte on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Just sent a simple request for a clarification.
NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Good.

I know it does not fit the legal definition of stalking. Try reading it before you try to lecture me.
Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Your comments were not limited to the legal definition of stalking! I don’t take issue with that, but the “fact” is you said:

Oh, stop it! You don’t get to change the facts. He called 911, Martin saw him on the phone and ran right past him, ZMan got out to see where he ran to, when the operator asked if he was following him, he said yes, the operator said there was no need to do that, and then Zman said okay. They then talked about meeting the officers. Zman said that he then was walking back to his truck.
Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

You don’t know what Martin saw. You only know what was alleged to have happened when the 911 call was made. Therefore you don’t know the facts either. That’s all…

So, what do you want to talk about on this thread?
a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

I already said you’re free to discuss the case, but it is not helpful to presume guilt or innocence or state that something is a “fact” when there is no way of knowing that at this point in time.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Notice how rapidly the narrative has shifted this week?

First it was a white guy executing a child because he was black.

Then it became a ‘white hispanic’ doing the same.

Then, when more facts came out and it started look like a more justiiable case of self defense, the blame shifted to the corrupt police department.

Now it’s shifting to the prosecutor who said there wasn’t enough to go to trial.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

And never let a Crisis go to waste!

Del Dolemonte on March 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM

A 6’3″ young black male attacks an hispanic Neighborhood Watch male, breaking his nose. The young black male is on top of the hispanic male, beating on his head, when the hispanic male pulls his legally carried gun and shoots the young black male once, killing him.

So the Democrat Party gets in lather against the hispanic male. There are death threats, etc. The President comments on how his son would have looked like the young black male.

However, if the story was a bit different, say like:

A 6’3″ young hispanic male attacks a black Neighborhood Watch male, breaking his nose. The young hispanic male is on top of the black male, beating on his head, when the black male pulls his legally carried gun and shoots the young hispanic male once, killing him.

That scenario wouldn’t bother the Democrat Party at all. The President certainly wouldn’t have made a comment. Chances are high none of you reading this would have ever heard about it.

Seriously: Why do the Democrats hate hispanics?

fadetogray on March 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM

True.
But have you noticed that the liberal media always tacks on “/white” to the hispanic part when referring to Zimmerman. We know how much they hate(and try to get everyone else to hate also) the white middle class.
Why don’t they tack that on when referring to Obama also?
Because it is not beneficial in that case to do so.

Sterling Holobyte on March 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Sorry, Fadetogray, I missed getting some of your quote at the top there into the “quote” thingy.

Sterling Holobyte on March 28, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Without coming across as a dyed-in-the-wool, over the top, premier racist … there’s a white culture/black culture thing going on here. (P.S. — I’m lily white myself) “You disrespect me, you get in my face, I take you down. I’m black. Being belittled, shamed, put down, that’s a lot worse than a little physical pain. I am a black man. In the past I was a slave, but now I’m a free man. Don’t disrespect me. You do, and I will hurt you.”

Realclearblue, what do you think about that?

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

I’m not going to speak on how others feel. To me, being disrespected isn’t enough of a reason to attack someone. However, I also know there are people white,black, asian, etc that feel differently and I’m not going to put myself in a position to instigate random people on the off chance I might run into them.

Secondly, say if I did, and they confront me and use physical force, they deserve to be arrested. However, just my personal opinion, I think I bear some personal responsibility in the situation for instigating the situation maybe not legally but I believe there is some moral fault there.

In this case, its a much more severe situation and it ended up in someone’s death. I never said that Trayvon was right to hit Zimmemrman for being followed. Though thats assuming he is the one to initiate contact. We probably won’t know since the only other person who saw the initial confrontation is…well dead. Eyewitnesses only saw the fight where Zimmerman was on the ground getting pounded by Trayvon and I restate I believe Zimmerman is justified to use self-defense if he could not get help and he felt he was about to be seriously injured. However, I think that what proceeded the events needs to be investigated. We don’t know what happened yet so we’ll wait for the grand jury. Maybe Zimmerman was trying to apprehend him and hold him down and then he fought back. No evidence to show that but there is no evidence at all as to what led to the physical confrontation except Zimmerman’s word and the Girlfriend has a contrary telling of what happened.

So all those things need to be taken into consideration, I’m not saying Zimmerman should allow himself to be beaten to death but if he would of acted in a less zealous manner, someone wouldn’t be dead today.

At the end of day, the investigation needs to find out what happened between Zimmerman’s last phone call and when the fight took place. We’ll just have to wait until the grand jury to have the answer.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Spike’s a punk. He’s not apologizing. Says ‘no comment’. Yes, I follow Dana Loesch on Twitter.

RepubChica on March 28, 2012 at 2:40 PM

But have you noticed that the liberal media always tacks on “/white” to the hispanic part when referring to Zimmerman.

I have never heard the media use that expression (“white hispanic”) before. The brazenness of their intent to propagandize is mindboggling. The media has no journalistic professionlism whatsoever any more, and no shame at all about the lack of professionalism.

Furthermore, why does the media hate hispanics so much?

I wonder which group hates hispanics more, the Democrat Party or the Mainstream Media? Seriously. Both groups are utterly despicable.

fadetogray on March 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Spike’s a punk. He’s not apologizing. Says ‘no comment’. Yes, I follow Dana Loesch on Twitter.

RepubChica on March 28, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Fine, let the lawsuits commence.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM

You go dance on the grave of a dead boy and mock his parents. Looks good on you and anyone who supports that crap. You make us all look bad.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Although you do seem to have competition, you must be this web site’s number one Drama Queen/Hall Monitor/Madam Prissy. As to his so called “parents” maybe they should have raised him in a proper way so as not to deserve being “mocked” while they are trying to now get rich over his demise. As to “look bad” frankly, princess, you look like an hysterical ninny.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

What I may or may not be has absolutely nothing to do with the ugliness and inappropriateness of your words. You degrade and demean this site with each of your race-baiting and idiotic posts.

But you go ahead and try to make this about me. The fact that you think this these are appropriate is all that need be said:

I will not be able to attend Martin’s funeral but I will try to remember to send a nice card saying that I approve.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

re: Obama
Blonde slave boys may be a different matter though. Or so they say.

RasThavas on March 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I do understand why you’d want to deflect it into it being *my* problem, though. I wouldn’t want those words to be attached to me either and if I had the integrity of a swamp rat like you I would attempt to smear anyone else to distract.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Spike’s a punk. He’s not apologizing. Says ‘no comment’. Yes, I follow Dana Loesch on Twitter.

RepubChica on March 28, 2012 at 2:40 PM

That’s probably his lawyer speaking. Wouldn’t an apology be equal to admitting guilt.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM

You don’t know what Martin saw. You only know what was alleged to have happened when the 911 call was made. Therefore you don’t know the facts either. That’s all…

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I know enough to know it is not stalking, you ignoramus. Maybe, if you read the damn definition, you would, too.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Nearly 400 comments and nobody has yet mentioned that the real source of the bogus info Spike Lee re-tweeted was a racist idiot named Marcus Davonne Higgins, in Los Angeles / Crenshaw -

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

he’s all about being sorry now, on his twitter feed
http://twitter.com/#!/MACCAPONE

rayra on March 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Would you guys cut it out? Martin was a young punk, an increasingly violent young man who brutally attacked a man who was just trying to safeguard his community from criminals by watching for trouble.

Martin deserved exactly what he got, and if you have ever been in the situation Zimmerman was in, on the ground, at night, bloodied and terrified, with a violent young man on top of you beating on your face, and you had no idea if the young thug was going to beat you to death or leave you mentally damaged, you would not be so judgmental about someone dancing on the punk’s grave.

On the other hand, it is generally impolite to dance on someone’s grave, so RasThavas, admit you may have been a bit over the top and stick to your otherwise clearly excellent comments.

fadetogray on March 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

MARCUS D.HIGGINS ‏ @MACCAPONE Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@NASDAQEnema I APOLOGY AND GOING TO WRITE A LEETER TO THE ELDER PEOPLE ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE

Go get ‘em, tiger! I’m sure a “leeter” to the “elder people” will make everything right again.

MARCUS D.HIGGINS ‏ @MACCAPONE Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@InsideEdition LIKE I SAID AGAIN I SORRY FOR RETWEET THE WRONG ADDRESS OR ADDRESS PERIOD SORRY TO THE ELDER PEOPLE I CAUSE HURT TO.

MARCUS D.HIGGINS ‏ @MACCAPONE Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@MACCAPONE @InsideEdition INSIDE EDITION YOU HAVE MY E-MAIL

Ah, yes, the requisite IQ needed for participation in today’s dynamic media!

Incidents like this really bring the stupid to the forefront of society.

MNHawk on March 28, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Stop stalking me, you deranged hall monitor perv. And I suggest you put another 40 mattresses over that pea, princess.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Some of your comments are beginning to look as though they more properly belong at Stormfront. They seem to appreciate that sort of thing over there.

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 3:10 PM

O/T:

Which episode did Ryker and Picard do the double facepalm? Thanks.

Gladtobehere on March 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

I know enough to know it is not stalking, you ignoramus. Maybe, if you read the damn definition, you would, too.
Blake on March 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Who’s the “ignoramus”? I just got finished telling you I don’t take issue with you definition of stalking! I said I take issue with the fact you recited what has alleged to have happened and deemed them “facts”. You are taking Zimmerman’s statements and assuming them to be factually true but we have no way of knowing that, 911 call notwithstanding. People make false statements to 911 operators all the time..

To be clear, I’m not saying or implying in any way Zimmerman was not truthful, just that we do not know at this point in time.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

To be clear, I’m not saying or implying in any way Zimmerman was not truthful, just that we do not know at this point in time.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Presumption of innocence.

Zimmerman’s statement is true, until it’s proved it’s false. So far as the other evidence has been exposed, his statement has been corroborated 100%.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I live in Anchorage, Alaska. I have lived here 60 years. Blacks are 5 percent of the population. In any year of the last 40, I would bet they are accountable for 25 to 50 percent of all murders, robberies, rapes, drug arrests and other felonies. Of the last four Anchorage Police Department firings of officers for rape, 3 have been black. Anchorage has approximately 310,000 people. When I worked for the Anchorage School District for 6 years, 90 percent of the trouble I encountered was from black students. A plague I say, a plague.

gp403220 on March 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM

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