Spike Lee does the wrong thing

posted at 11:00 am on March 28, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

On more than one occasion regarding the subject of the Trayvon Martin shooting, I have warned people about jumping to conclusions ahead of a thorough investigation.  Unfortunately, we have a great demonstration of exactly how that can have potentially deadly consequences.  Filmmaker Spike Lee thought he’d teach George Zimmerman a lesson by tweeting his home address to the world, apparently hoping for a little vigilante justice.  However, Lee tweeted the wrong address — twice — and instead put an elderly couple at risk:

Filmmaker Spike Lee made waves on Twitter last week when he re-tweeted to his 200,000 followers (h/t Twitchy) what was thought to be George Zimmerman’s home address in Sanford, Florida. Mr. Zimmerman told Sanford police last month that he fatally shot 17 year old Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

However, the Edgewater Circle address Mr. Lee re-tweeted out is not part of the gated Retreat at Twin Lakes where the shooting took place and where Mr. Zimmerman lives. The area is not even a gated community.

In fact, I took a drive to that Edgewater Circle address that so many on Twitter re-tweeted and cursed, and I discovered through a neighbor, named Tim, who lives across the street from the address, that not only does George Zimmerman not live at the lakeside house but a woman by the name of Elaine does.

As of this morning, Lee has not removed the tweets from his feed, according to Twitchy.  Perhaps Lee will “do the right thing” by this morning and delete them, because the couple that does live at the address Lee tweeted are understandably frightened about their safety.  The Smoking Gun reports on the McClains and the attention they have received from Lee’s messaging:

In an interview tonight, Elaine McClain told TSG that she and her husband were “afraid” due to the online linking of her address to Zimmerman. “We’re keeping everything locked,” she said. McClain added that the couple was particularly unnerved by a letter mailed to them at their home. On the envelope, she said, were printed the words “Taste The Rainbow,” the slogan for Skittles. Martin was carrying a pack of Skittles and a can of ice tea when he was gunned down by Zimmerman.

McClain said her husband returned the envelope unopened to the post office.

And how did this happen?  Poor research and jumping to conclusions:

Besides overlooking the different middle initial, perhaps that answer is connected to an old voter record for a “William George Zimmerman” at the Edgewater Circle property. That registration, which dates back to 1995, is for a 41-year-old man. The Zimmerman who shot Martin is 28.

Elaine McClain identified William George Zimmerman as her son, noting that he has not lived at the Edgewater Circle residence for seven years.

Jim Treacher points out the irony in this story:

If you’re against vigilantes taking matters into their own hands, except when it comes to dealing with George Zimmerman, #YouMightBeALiberal.

I notice Spike hasn’t been working much lately. I hope he’s been saving his money. Lawyers can be expensive.

Even if the address had been correct, it still would have been the wrong thing to do.  Lee should be ashamed of himself.

The original concern in this shooting incident was that the investigation into the shooting of an unarmed 17-year-old seemed cursory and insufficient.  Thanks to the national attention the case has draw, we now have two major investigations under way, one by the Department of Justice (an investigation endorsed by Rep. Allen West) and another by the state of Florida.  While it’s unlikely that the media will stop reporting tidbits of the story without knowing their full context, the rest of us should wait to see what facts can be established by these two investigations before jumping to any more conclusions — and before putting innocent people at risk like the McClains.

Update: Danny Glover puts Lee and Marcus Higgins in the Twitter Hall of Shame.


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That being said, if things are so damn terrible, *why* aren’t the international airports full of people trying to get out? You included?

BlaxPac on March 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I hate to say this because it sounds racist, which I truly am not trying to be: I think “African-Americans” need to take a lesson from the so-called “Palestinians” and try to reclaim their native land. If America is sooo terrible, and your ancestors were forced to come here, then leave. What’s that, you (not you BlaxPac) don’t want to live like Obama’s half-brother? Then STFU.

Nutstuyu on March 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Unless skittles are now considered a weapon.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

As Zimmerman is being pounded senseless into the sidewalk and is seconds away from a coma, I doubt he knew the 6’2″ attacker had Skittles in his back pocket.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Again, you’re either being intentionally dishonest or haven’t listened to the 911 call.

A guy on the neighborhood watch sees someone he doesn’t recognize, alone, at night, wearing clothing that concealed their identity, and walking oddly, like he may be on drugs. He couldn’t even ID him as black initially on the 911 call.

You’re flopping badly here, JetBoy.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 12:15 PM

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

C’mon JB, we expect better from you than that. Zimmerman told the 911 operator that he saw someone who was unfamiliar to him, in his neighborhood, walking around after dark and in the rain, behaving strangely. Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch monitor, patrolling in a neighborhood where there had recently been a spate of burglaries. Are you seriously suggesting that he had no reason to be suspicious? When the 911 operator asked for a description of the individual, Zimmerman wasn’t even sure if he was black. Yet you’re convinced he singled him out because of his race? Seriously?

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Why is Obama starting a race War Against Hispanics?

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

A non-resident, or a person not recognized walking about in a gated community is a matter for the Homeowners Association to deal with. They did. Zimmerman was hired to do so. Trespass charges may have been forthcoming; criminal trespass charges if the suspect had with him any tools of the trade or had stolen objects in his possession.

So…a simple question. Why was Martin in the gated community in the first place?

His race would not be a determining fact to a matter of trespass under the laws in Florida.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

It is my hope those poor unfortunate folks who were wrongly indentified have the opportunity to SUE the gold right out of spike lee`s mouth. Childish, irresponsible, dangerous…the way of the leftard.

NY Conservative on March 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Look, I usually get ticked as anyone when that race/victim card gets played. But in this case, race was the motive for the shooting, clear as day. This dude did just a bit more than call in some random suspicious character. That kid is dead, and under this Florida law the shooter walks away a free man. If you believe this skinny kid started throwing punches at that larger guy and the only recourse was to shoot, then something ain’t right with you.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 11:47 AM

are you kidding me? first of all i LIVE in Florida and i am so SICK AND TIRED of folks online and around the world judging us as a state and taking shots at folks when THEY HAVENT GOT THE WHOLE DARN STORY.

This kid was in a neighborhood he doesnt belong in wearing thug clothing. And let me clue you in here in my area if i see a kid walking the streets i Dont recognize dressed like the Martin kid im crossing the street and finding someplace to go FAST and i Dont need to see his skin color. That is exactly the style of clothing gang bangers and dealers wear around here. and i know for a fact that the teens i know would not hesitate to beat down someone even if he is bigger than they are. so quit making assumptions you are making an arse of your self

katee bayer on March 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Unless skittles are now considered a weapon.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Well, according to Moochelle, they cause obesity, and obesity is a national security issue. So yeah, they are a weapon.

Nutstuyu on March 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

My favorite is Dick Gregory was killed so his organs could be harvested.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM

This is beyond black urban myth. This is third world ignorance, that causes mobs to run wild. This is “blood libel”, when centuries ago Jews were accused of kidnapping Christian children to steal their blood. Or more recently:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/
Aug 24, 2009 – Swedish editor admits that he had no evidence for Jewish blood libel story. Jews are stealing organs from Palestinian children and selling them.

How primitive a country have we become to have a prominent and celebrated figure such as Dick Gregory saying such things?

This is a manifestation of deep-seated hatred and anger, ignoring any and all facts. It’s seeped into this forum, into Congress, into celebrities, into every reach of the country.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM

But in this case, race was the motive for the shooting, clear as day.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 11:47 AM

It should be easy to settle this particular dust-up you have started.

You have made a very definitive, unequivocal statement of “fact”.

So, all you have to now do is present, for all reading here, your definitive, unequivocal, unbiased “proof”.

Yoop on March 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM

And how did this happen? Poor research and jumping to conclusions:

You are so naive. All Lee and Holder and Obama need to know is who is black and who is white and for extra points who is Jewish. That’s all that matters to them. Where have you been?

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Even if the address had been correct, it still would have been the wrong thing to do. Lee should be ashamed of himself.

No kidding!! IMHO, this should have been noted in the first paragraph~

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Spike Lee also spread the false rumor that Tommy Hilfiger had made a racist comment on the Oprah Show, which of course never happened. Lee’s hatred of white people and love of casting black people as eternal victims is far stronger than his desire for truth. What a contemptible, racist, little man.

Crusty on March 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

This whole deal reeks of the Duke Lacross deal. The mediea and race pimps start flopping like fish out of water, then you hear crickets once the reality of the facts set in.

I don’t know all the facts, but if what I have heard from witnesses is true, and the shooter passes a lie detector test, then this kid sounds like a problem.

saiga on March 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Arggh. Once more with blockquotes:

Even if the address had been correct, it still would have been the wrong thing to do. Lee should be ashamed of himself.

No kidding!! IMHO, this should have been noted in the first paragraph~

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Filmmaker Spike Lee thought he’d teach George Zimmerman a lesson by tweeting his home address to the world, apparently hoping for a little vigilante justice. However, Lee tweeted the wrong address — twice — and instead put an elderly couple at risk:

Hey they’re “crackers”.

No harm, no foul.

(now if they were radical black muslims…….)

Tim_CA on March 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM

This kid wasn’t seen carrying a firearm, or a TV, wearing gang colors, caught climbing into someone’s window, etc etc. Unless skittles are now considered a weapon.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Therefore, the only other explanation for the 911 call is skin color, right? Martin wasn’t visibly armed, and wasn’t actively involved in criminal behavior at that time, so no reason to be suspicious, even though he was a stranger to the neighborhood, was disguised by the sweatshirt, and appeared to be wandering aimlessly in a gated community which had been recently been hit by a string of burglaries. Yep,..had to be skin color. And, how quickly the kid’s parents end up in Congressional hearings on racial profiling. Almost like magic.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Why is Obama starting a race War Against Hispanics?

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Because Obama and Holder were not able to murder enough of them with their Fast and Furious/Vast and Obvious, Gun Running Merchant of Death Program.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM

No kidding!! IMHO, this should have been noted in the first paragraph~

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Like the two whites guys, years ago, who beat a Chinese man to death with a baseball bat because the Japanese were beating us at auto manufacturing. Wrong and stupid all around.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM

That, and the assault…

bernverdnardo1 on March 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM

The assault could have been predicated by Martin feeling threatened by Zimmerman. The Stand Your Ground Law would have been applicable to him if he also felt threatened, right?

This entire case is a mess and a damned shame. . . it’s a shame there was a physical altercation that lead to a death, and its a shame that it has become a circus.

cmsciulli on March 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM

You’re flopping badly here, JetBoy.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 12:15 PM

JetBoy is a Moby, why people still accept him at his word that he’s a “conservative”, when all he spouts are progressive talking points, is a mystery to me.

The left took three weeks to build this narrative of “white (Jewish?) vigilante killing innocent skittles-munching kid and gets away with it due to racism”.

They’re not going to let actual facts get in the way of that narrative.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Spike Lee also spread the false rumor that Tommy Hilfiger had made a racist comment on the Oprah Show, which of course never happened. Lee’s hatred of white people and love of casting black people as eternal victims is far stronger than his desire for truth. What a contemptible, racist, little man.

Crusty on March 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

At some point, we as Americans are going to have to confront this black/white race business. It will be ugly, but informative. It shows the kind of disaster that not taking resonsibility for one’s self can produce. Both blacks and whites have extensive culpability in the problem, and progress is far too slow. It will take some real guts scatter all the issues out into the sunshine. The race pimps will go wild.

saiga on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Lee’s hatred of white people and love of casting black people as eternal victims is far stronger than his desire for truth. What a contemptible, racist, little man.

Crusty on March 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

To Obama though, he would be the perfect son.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Somebody needs to ‘tweet’ Spike Lee’s home address… fair is fair…

Khun Joe on March 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Shelton (Spike) and Tonya Lee:
153 E 63rd St, Apt 55
New York, NY 10065-7405
and Spike’s office is at 55 Washington in Brooklyn Heights

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

This kid wasn’t seen carrying a firearm, or a TV, wearing gang colors, caught climbing into someone’s window, etc etc. Unless skittles are now considered a weapon.

JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

He *was* however seen by someone that didn’t recognize him from the neighborhood…or if you like, he was recognized as *not* someone that lived in the community.

We can debate wholeheartedly, whether it was *okay* for him to be followed…if the community is gated, and Mr. Martin was using the area as a shortcut to get home (a meme you *will* hear come up soon enough, btw) then yeah he should be followed because he was…trespassing.

However, the moment that Zimmerman suffered physical injuries, then support for Martin goes down. If Zimmerman was in retreat (back to car) and Martin approached *him* AND threw the opening punches then we got a different view of things.

The case hinges on the eyewitness testimony and the physical evidence.

BlaxPac on March 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Bottom line is this kid is dead. His only crime, far as we know, was that he wasn’t recognized by Zimmerman.
JetBoy on March 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM

According to reports I’ve read, Martin and his girlfriend were talking on the phone when Martin told the girlfriend someone was following him. The girlfriend told Martin to run, but he said no, he was going to teach him a lesson.

Other reports indicate that Zimmerman got out of his vehicle to confront Martin, they had words, Martin turned to walk back to his vehicle, and Martin jumped Zimmerman. We can argue all day about whether Zimmerman was justified in calling 911, or in following Martin, or in confronting him, but the fact remains that Martin had no legal justification for attacking Martin, if that is in fact what happened, and it was indeed, a crime (assault and battery).

The bottom line of this story (if the reported facts are true) is not that it is dangerous to be a black kid in a hoodie with Skittles in your pocket. The bottom line is that it’s dangerous to attack and pummel strangers, because you never know when they’re packing.

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Has anyone heard from the bus driver who Obama’s dearly departed son, Martin, attack a few weeks ago?

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Tell me Spike – why do Asians who can’t speak English have to open stores in your ghettos so you can use your food stamps?”

kozmo on March 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Ouch!

I’ll hazard a guess that Spikey won’t be tweeting an answer to that one.

infidel4life on March 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM

should read “Martin had no legal justification for attacking Zimmerman

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM

This entire case is a mess and a damned shame. . . it’s a shame there was a physical altercation that lead to a death, and its a shame that it has become a circus.

cmsciulli on March 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM

+1

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

-1

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM

A vicious thug tried to bash the wrong man’s head in.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

The issue here is the racist state attorney who needs to be fired. Apparently the life of a black man is not worth justice.
The would not be the first time in American history though.
liberal4life on March 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Total Azzhole, unparalleled mindlessness

Sonosam on March 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Best tweet I saw yesterday on this topic:

RT @TheBlkInformant: I would own Spike’s “40 acres and his mule” over this.

baldilocks on March 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Zimmerman and his wife took young black kids to various outings, i.e., parks and sport’s games. When the funding for the program ended, they continued and paid for it themselves. So, yeah, he’s a virulent racist!!!1!!!

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

LMAO….guaranteed the little pr!ck would be whining the next day on the Today Show that the racist “white-man” had invaded his privacy.

Hilarious.

Tim_CA on March 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

According to reports I’ve read, Martin and his girlfriend were talking on the phone when Martin told the girlfriend someone was following him. The girlfriend told Martin to run, but he said no, he was going to teach him a lesson..

This is why I refer to the whole situation as a Dave Chappelle “When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong” sketch come to life.

teke184 on March 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

I see the banhammer in someone’s future.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Meanwhile, blacks kill and maim unarmed white people everyday without any concern from the Just-us Dept.

Proving once again, that it is okey dokey to be a racist and a murderer if you are the right color. It is getting real difficult to try to be color blind with this racist administration in charge.

Sporty1946 on March 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Any word from DoJ or the White House regarding the NBPP solicitation of kidnap/murder across state lines for cash?

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I will not be able to attend Martin’s funeral but I will try to remember to send a nice card saying that I approve.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Nutstuyu on March 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM

You don’t sound racist Nutstuyu, its just common sense. If i don’t like the movie I’m at, why the heck would i stay till the end credits?

And my favorite: If America is so terrible, name me someplace you’d go where its milk & honey that flow through the streets?

The looks i get? Priceless.

BlaxPac on March 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM

The bottom line is that it’s dangerous to attack and pummel strangers, because you never know when they’re packing.

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

He’s 17 years old. The higher functions of his brain aren’t even nearly developed yet. He was probably never taught how to act when confronted by police, or someone in authority. When I was 17, I was clueless. Even in this case I’m learning the responsibility in using deadly force in self-defense. When the threat is gone, NEVER pursue. Back off. So I learn something. Zimmerman was, I’m sure, well-trained and experienced. He’s on his back, sustaining serious bodily injury, he was in the right to defend himself with deadly force. The kid used very bad judgment. He’s a kid. He used REALLY bad judgment, from what I can see.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM

The police wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter, but was overruled by the state’s attorney.

The issue here is the racist state attorney who needs to be fired. Apparently the life of a black man is not worth justice.

The would not be the first time in American history though.

liberal4life on March 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Ummm, that happened because the state’s attorney figured it was not worth the hassle to indict him. The state has to make a case beyond a reasonable doubt, and there was a truckload of reasonable doubt in this case.

Sekhmet on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Tell me Spike – why do Asians who can’t speak English have to open stores in your ghettos so you can use your food stamps?”

kozmo on March 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM

That is the ugly kind of stuff that will have to come out in the great race debate, and there is lots of it. If we are ever going to get past it, we will have to thrash it all out.

saiga on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

The issue here is the racist state attorney who needs to be fired. Apparently the life of a black man is not worth justice.
The would not be the first time in American history though.
liberal4life on March 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Notice the hilarity here: liberal4life screams that the state attorney is a racist because the state attorney made a decision based on evidence rather than the skin color of the people involved.

Beyond parody. Liberal4Life and all other Obama supporters have made it clear that they have zero, repeat ZERO, interest in evidence or justice, and want the court system in this country to run solely based on skin color.

You are a racist, Liberal4Life. You and your fellow race pimps should be mocked out of public life because you are a racist.

northdallasthirty on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Any word from DoJ or the White House regarding the NBPP solicitation of kidnap/murder across state lines for cash?

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

They have already sent the NBPP a nice card saying they approve.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Best tweet I saw yesterday on this topic:
RT @TheBlkInformant: I would own Spike’s “40 acres and his mule” over this.
baldilocks on March 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

heh

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

. And, how quickly the kid’s parents end up in Congressional hearings on racial profiling. Almost like magic.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Funny, though, that they couldn’t seem to be that fast notifying the police that their child had gone missing – or even call around to his friends to find out where he might be.
Nope. The cops had to hunt them down to tell them about their son.
They were pretty quick to trademark poor little Trayvon’s name, too.

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Any word from DoJ or the White House regarding the NBPP solicitation of kidnap/murder across state lines for cash?

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

As Whoopi might say, it’s not “kidnap/murder” kidnap/murder.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Best tweet I saw yesterday on this topic:

RT @TheBlkInformant: I would own Spike’s “40 acres and his mule” over this.

baldilocks on March 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Hey there, baldilocks! Good to “see” you. And thanks for sharing that most excellent tweet.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM

parasite4life is a premature postulator

Bevan on March 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Solaratov on March 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

I see the banhammer in someone’s future.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

For disseminating public info that anyone with internet access could find in less than 5 minutes.

I hope not.

Tim_CA on March 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM

You and your fellow race pimps should be mocked out of public life because you are a racist.

northdallasthirty on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Without identity politics and racial grievance mongering, the democrat party would fold tomorrow.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Why is Obama starting a race War Against Hispanics?

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Most Hispanics are Catholics, and the Democrats hate Catholics, so hating Hispanics comes naturally to Democrats.

Democrats are pretty good at pretending they don’t hate people they really hate with a passion. Just look how successful they are in getting Jews to vote for them.

The only people Democrats do not hate besides atheists are terrorists, lawyers, propagandists (‘news,’ ‘entertainment,’ and ‘teaching’), union leaders and other criminals. Those are the people whose interests you will actually see them fighting for.

fadetogray on March 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

I will not be able to attend Martin’s funeral but I will try to remember to send a nice card saying that I approve.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

*Unacceptable comment alert*

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Apparently Eric Holder was able to find time to read the memos on this particular incident. He’s right on top of things like this. Brian Terry’s family, on the other hand…

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

The kid used very bad judgment. He’s a kid. He used REALLY bad judgment, from what I can see.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Yes, it certainly appears that way. I have sympathy for the kid and his family. Teenagers, no matter how big they are or how tough they think they are, often behave recklessly without thinking about the possible consequences. It’s tragic when it ends in death.

I’ll say again, we don’t know for sure what happened here, but the condemnations of Zimmerman, the police, the prosecutors, etc., seem to be wildly out of touch with the reported facts, and blatantly irresponsible (at best).

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM

More of an abject lesson, twice over, than an object lesson.

/and yes both are correct. There’s a difference.

rayra on March 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM

saiga on March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I’d have to agree. Going back to that comment, there was a bit more that I’d think most would consider over the top.

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

I have to wonder why the girlfriend, if she is telling the truth, why she didn’t call 911, or the police or his parents?

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

The kid used very bad judgment. He’s a kid. He used REALLY bad judgment, from what I can see.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM

He was just plain mean and vicious. And your “He’s 17 years old. The higher functions of his brain aren’t even nearly developed yet” is about the dumbest, most anti-science, thing I have ever heard.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:44 PM

*Unacceptable comment alert*

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

So there are some?

hawkdriver on March 28, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Reconsidering…I can see why the gf did not call the cops if her bf just told her he was going to go teach someone a lesson, i.e., start a physical confrontation. But it appears that she delayed coming forward long after the shooting.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) topped them by putting on a hoodie and reading from the Bible on the floor of the House until he was declared out of order and removed.

teke184 on March 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM

One other detail: Rush took off his glasses and put on shades!

If I were in the chamber, I’d have called security.

BuckeyeSam on March 28, 2012 at 12:13 PM

With mental giants like Bobby Rush in Congress, is there any wonder why this nation is in the giant craphole that it is?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I have to wonder why the girlfriend, if she is telling the truth, why she didn’t call 911, or the police or his parents?

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

I was wondering about that myself.

The fact is, Martin eluded Zimmerman, and was free and clear. What happened in that five minutes, what made him turn and attack Zimmerman?

Possible it was the girlfriend who egged him on?

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM

And your “He’s 17 years old. The higher functions of his brain aren’t even nearly developed yet” is about the dumbest, most anti-science, thing I have ever heard.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:44 PM

The prefrontal cortex, controlling the higher functions like personality, the will, and long-term planning, isn’t done developing until the mid-twenties.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Obama blew his race-dog whistle and Spike Lee jumped into action – as expected.

Pork-Chop on March 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I wonder how long Hispanics will stay with the Left.

This is going to backfire on Obama.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Celebrity tribute to Trayvon Martin!

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

I’ll say again, we don’t know for sure what happened here, but the condemnations of Zimmerman, the police, the prosecutors, etc., seem to be wildly out of touch with the reported facts, and blatantly irresponsible (at best).

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM

To me it’s as if they’re displaying fealty to a kind of political correctness, where emotions are front and center, and facts are secondary. I like my facts up front. That Zimmerman is to be commended for being involved in his community has been totally lost in all of this.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Celebrity tribute to Trayvon Martin!

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Produced, Directed and choreographed by Spike Lee.

Tim_CA on March 28, 2012 at 12:55 PM

With mental giants like Bobby Rush in Congress, is there any wonder why this nation is in the giant craphole that it is?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM

If you think Bobby Rush is stupid, you should see some of the aldermen/women on the Chicago City Council. They sound like Trayvon’s tweets.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Isn’t it incredible how many black racists show their true feelings. Where is the outrage for the recent gunning down of a white student by two black thugs? Black, racist, hypocrites.

ultracon on March 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM

And your “He’s 17 years old. The higher functions of his brain aren’t even nearly developed yet” is about the dumbest, most anti-science, thing I have ever heard.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:44 PM

The prefrontal cortex, controlling the higher functions like personality, the will, and long-term planning, isn’t done developing until the mid-twenties.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM

You really should get your story straight. First you say “aren’t even nearly developed yet” and then you switch way over to “isn’t done developing until”. That is a huge difference. You seem to think that this Martin was less mentally advanced at 17 than I was when I was 6. You may be a racist. Frankly, I think you know less about human biology than Al Gore does about climate.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Time to Spike Lee and sue the right thing.

ghostwalker1 on March 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I wonder how long Hispanics will stay with the Left.

This is going to backfire on Obama.

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 12:51 PM

He needs a bright shiny object to deflect from his record. He may have made the calculation that losing some Hispanic voters is the lesser of two evils. Or,…he may just be unable to keep his mouth shut when the potential to inflame racial issues exists.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM

You really should get your story straight. First you say “aren’t even nearly developed yet” and then you switch way over to “isn’t done developing until”. That is a huge difference. You seem to think that this Martin was less mentally advanced at 17 than I was when I was 6. You may be a racist. Frankly, I think you know less about human biology than Al Gore does about climate.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

What? Based on what he say he may be a racist?

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM

says ^^

*sigh*

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:00 PM

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

You must be a blast at parties. Good grief.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:02 PM

What? Based on what he say he may be a racist?

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM

I spoke clearly. Do I have to put it in rhyme for you to understand?

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:06 PM

And your “He’s 17 years old. The higher functions of his brain aren’t even nearly developed yet” is about the dumbest, most anti-science, thing I have ever heard.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:44 PM

The prefrontal cortex, controlling the higher functions like personality, the will, and long-term planning, isn’t done developing until the mid-twenties.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Maybe we should reset the voting age to 25 or so then?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

You must be a blast at parties. Good grief.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I have been told I’m the life of the party, but then I usually hang out at higher class digs.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I think we’re all a bit shocked to see you asserting something as fact that really doesn’t seem to have any real evidence to back it up.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I’m not the least bit shocked by JetBoy’s behavior. He went from saying that Zimmerman keyed on Trayvon as suspicious, because he was black, to this:

But in this case, race was the motive for the shooting, clear as day.

He has made up his mind, and damn the facts, just like any good liberal.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

liberal4life on March 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Go scr*w yourself you racist mosquito!
I grew up in a black neighborhood. Black kids aren’t always saints and angels.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Perhaps the next time a black civil rights activist (being generous there) does something wrong everyone should tweet their home addresses so the skinhead/nazi types can pay them a visit.

What’s Spike Lee’s address?

Wolfmoon on March 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM

I spoke clearly. Do I have to put it in rhyme for you to understand?

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:06 PM

The person you were talking to did not mention the race of Trayvon. He talked about his AGE. Argument fail.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Jet: I lie you, but you’re full of snit on this.The kid sounds lie he was a thug.
If I had seen someone lie him wandering around MY complex-I would’ve been suspcious too.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Maybe we should reset the voting age to 25 or so then?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Not a bad idea.

Add to that that only citizens can vote.

And only taxpayers can vote on monetary issues.

The Founders were on the right track.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Twerp, check the ‘k’ on your keyboard.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

I want to see this piece of t*rd have to apologize on camera for this disgraceful move. He’ll probably end up apologizing on The View, further reinforcing the idea that he is nothing but a big p*ssy.

EMD on March 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The propaganda value of the widely published photo of the angelic youth vs the mug shot of the neighborhood vigilante is being called out in far too few places, but it is being called out and that’s a start. When will the MSM realize that credibility is its only product? And when will SNL and Leno catch on that “the news” is a joke?

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The fact is, Martin eluded Zimmerman, and was free and clear. What happened in that five minutes, what made him turn and attack Zimmerman?

Possible it was the girlfriend who egged him on?

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I dunno but I see some people arguing that Martin had the right to stand his ground. However, SYG doesn’t mean you get to circle back and attack someone and especially when the other party has retreated. I do think this new prosecutor is a crack pot with her announced plan to try to get around having a GJ.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Maybe we should reset the voting age to 25 or so then?

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

That is an extremely good idea.

fadetogray on March 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM

I have been told I’m the life of the party, but then I usually hang out at higher class digs.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I will not be able to attend Martin’s funeral but I will try to remember to send a nice card saying that I approve.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

If that’s how they act at the high class digs, I’ll stick with my PBR at the corner pub.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Waiting for Spike Lee to tweet about the 6 year old girl killed in a drive by shooting in Chicago. Is he going to give out the addresses of the accused shooters? Won’t hold my breath waiting, I want to live. For that matter when was the last time Lee gave out an address of any Black criminal? Funny how that works..
As for the Tommy Hilfger incident. TH is still doing a thriving business, Lee…not so much.

Deanna on March 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM

The person you were talking to did not mention the race of Trayvon. He talked about his AGE. Argument fail.

JannyMae on March 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM

You seem to comprehend little if it’s not tweeter chat level.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM

If that’s how they act at the high class digs, I’ll stick with my PBR at the corner pub.

BadgerHawk on March 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Then you will forever remain in a state of arrested development.

RasThavas on March 28, 2012 at 1:18 PM

However, SYG doesn’t mean you get to circle back and attack someone and especially when the other party has retreated.

Blake on March 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM

More than that – it doesn’t allow instigating violence, when no violence had been used against you.

Sure, having someone follow you is annoying as heck (especially if you’re up to no good), but you can’t justifiable beat someone up for it.

The leftist meme seems to push the “white guy was following a black kid due to racism, so the kid had every right to bounce his head off concrete” theory.

Sorry, doesn’t work that way.

Rebar on March 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I’m a black man myself, and liberal4life your antagonism isn’t helping the issue. All you do is engage other people who react with the same antagonism and stir S***

Spike lee is wrong for what he did and I even tweeted him saying that he should apologize and make amends for what he did.

As far as this case, I feel two ways. On one hand, I can’t reasonably expect a man who is getting beat up to not defend themself anyway possible, and if this did play out how Zimmerman has described and he was overpowered and couldn’t get any help…then I can’t fault him from protecting himself from home anyway he can.

On the other hand, I can’t be convinced that its not unjust to stalk someone at night, approach someone (according to the GF this happened. According to Zimmerman it did not), and then not be expect to carry the responsibility when you get in a fight with someone when you initiated the confrontation. Trayvon, according to GF, was already concern that some STRANGER he doesn’t know is falling him at night. Imagine under that scenario that then that person gets out of their vehicle and approaches you. Anyone would reasonably expect it wouldn’t be to give you a nice chat or present. That would be like me walking down the street, taunting someone, getting beat up and then shooting the person dead. Is the person wrong for initiating physical contact? Yes. However am I completely free in the series of events by provoking the response? I wouldn’t think so. Some responsibility needs to be taken here. I’m sorry. Its a disturbing precedence. Manslaughter at the most. I can’t say someone should just walk home after that and that is that.

Side note: ZIMMERMAN WAS NOT AN OFFICIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH. HE WAS SELF-APPOINTED. I’ve seen a few people posit that he was acting under an air of assigned authority. That is false. Please stop spreading that lie.

Everyone needs to go to their corners and let the grand jury go over the case and allow time for justice to take place. One thing to note, the girlfriend said that Trayvon express concerned about this guy stalking him and that he started to run and you hear Zimmerman state “hes running”. In addition to that, there is word that the FBI has a 911 call made by the girlfriend and that Trayvon tried to call 911. This hasn’t been reported except on a local ABC channel and I haven’t heard more of that. So we’ll see what happens.

Realclearblue on March 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

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