Quotes of the day

posted at 10:38 pm on March 28, 2012 by Allahpundit

“The Supreme Court spent 91 minutes Wednesday operating on the assumption that it would strike down the key feature of the new health care law, but may have convinced itself in the end not to do that because of just how hard it would be to decide what to do after that. A common reaction, across the bench, was that the Justices themselves did not want the onerous task of going through the remainder of the entire 2,700 pages of the law and deciding what to keep and what to throw out, and most seemed to think that should be left to Congress. They could not come together, however, on just what task they would send across the street for the lawmakers to perform. The net effect may well have shored up support for the individual insurance mandate itself.

“The dilemma could be captured perfectly in two separate comments by Justice Antonin Scalia — first, that it ‘can’t be right’ that all of the myriad provisions of the law unrelated to the mandate had to fall with it, but, later, that if the Court were to strike out the mandate, ‘then the statute’s gone.’ Much of the lively argument focused on just what role the Court would more properly perform in trying to sort out the consequences of nullifying the requirement that virtually every American have health insurance by the year 2014.”

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“‘Democrats in the Congress have long-believed in judicial review,’ Pelosi said during a press briefing in the Capitol. ‘We respect the third branch of government and the role that they play under our Constitution, and that is a role to have the opportunity to review laws passed by Congress.

“‘This is part of our constitutional process, and we respect it,’ she added…

“Asked to predict the outcome, she said, ‘I have no idea –- none of us does.’”

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“Healthcare interest groups spent tens of millions of dollars cutting deals with the Obama administration and Congress in 2009 and 2010. The Supreme Court may soon leave those deals in tatters — and saddle the healthcare industry with multi-billion dollar losses

“Obama used the individual mandate as a selling point for the pharmaceutical industry, arguing that more insured individuals would translate into a larger market of customers. If the court severs the mandate, however, companies would still have to abide by the price controls while receiving little in the pledged market growth…

“Hospital interest groups agreed to multi-billion cuts — $10.6 billion in 2018 and 2019 in Disproportionate Share Hospital adjustment payments alone — after receiving assurances that the individual mandate would cut down on uninsured hospital stays, which cost hospitals $16 billion in 2008. These same groups, which spent nearly $30 million lobbying for the bill, would now have to endure the cuts while shouldering the financial burden of uninsured stays.”

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“Some health care experts have suggested that there might be ways to replace the insurance mandate by using market incentives to encourage the uninsured to gain coverage.

“The government could, for instance, give consumers limited enrollment periods to buy insurance so they could not wait until they were ill. Or it could tell them that if they did not buy a policy during a defined period they also would not be eligible for benefits, like subsidized coverage.

“But supporters of the health care law contend that such measures would insure only a fraction of the 30 million estimated to gain coverage with the mandate in place.

“‘There are alternatives to the mandate, but none of them are considered as effective,’ said Neera Tanden, a former Obama aide who now heads the Center for American Progress.”

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“If Democrats make little progress on alternatives, some purists might decide it’s best to just renew the case for a single-payer system in which all Americans receive health care paid for by the government.

“Sidney M. Wolfe, the director of the Health Research Group at Public Citizen, an advocacy group, has been pushing for government-run health care for decades…

“‘If this is what happens, it may offer more incentive to say let’s decide once and for all that health care is a right,’ Mr. Wolfe said. ‘It will certainly present an opportunity to a number of people.’

“But it’s not clear where the support for such a change would come from, especially after the bruising fight over Mr. Obama’s health care plan two years ago.”

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“Conservatives want to change the system so markets can work their magic. But Republicans have been unclear about what they want to replace Obamacare with, exactly. Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP’s resident wonk, gave a speech last September where, in addition to advocating block granting Medicaid to the states and transitioning Medicare to a premium support system, he endorsed ‘replacing the inefficient tax treatment of employer-provided healthcare with a portable, refundable tax credit that you can take with you from job to job, allowing you to hang onto your insurance even during those tough times when a job might be hard to find.’…

“But there might be a compromise out there. Look to Switzerland, where there is universal coverage despite no government health insurance programs. Consumers choose among private plans. And the nation spends 40% less than the U.S. on healthcare, as a share of GDP.

“Here’s Regina Herzlinger: ‘Republicans could enact Swiss-style universal coverage by enabling employees to cash out of their employer-sponsored health insurance. (Although many view employer-sponsored health insurance as a ‘free’ benefit, it is money that would otherwise be paid as income.) The substantial sums involved would command attention and gratitude: A 2006 cash out would have yielded $12,000—the average cost of employer-sponsored health insurance—thus raising the income of joint filers who earn less than $73,000 (90 percent of all filers) by at least 16 percent. Employees could remain in with an employer’s plan or use this new income to buy their own health insurance.’”

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“Mr. Obama could announce he respects the court’s decision and pledge to fashion a bipartisan solution to provide access to affordable health-care insurance for all Americans. This would help his re-election by repositioning him back in the political center, as he was in 2008 when he ran television ads that said ‘both extremes’ — ‘government-run health care [and] higher taxes’ — ‘are wrong.’

“But he could instead lash out against the court’s majority — as he did in the Citizens United case upholding free speech for corporations — and insist on an even larger role in health care for Washington. Perhaps he would advocate a ‘public option’ where government competes with private and not-for-profit health-insurance companies, hospital consortiums and the like.

“The president has very little room to maneuver.”

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“Hospital interest groups agreed to multi-billion cuts — $10.6 billion in 2018 and 2019 in Disproportionate Share Hospital adjustment payments alone — after receiving assurances that the individual mandate would cut down on uninsured hospital stays, which cost hospitals $16 billion in 2008. These same groups, which spent nearly $30 million lobbying for the bill, would now have to endure the cuts while shouldering the financial burden of uninsured stays.”

You know, it would almost be poetic justice if those companies that lobbied so hard to destroy the liberty and freedom of Americans were to come to economic harm as a result of their actions. I realize that there would be bad consequences to citizens if this were to happen, but the irony of being screwed by their own crony capitalism come back to bite them would be sweet.

This is really a good argument for the Supreme Court to invalidate the whole law. The tendrils of corruption run through the whole 2000+ stinking pages of this ill-begotten and devilishly born abomination of political corruption, bribery, skulduggery and backroom dealing.

AZfederalist on March 29, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Cake hates whisky, you know. Its feelings get hurt when you try to get it drunk. :-p

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I make a low-fat chocolate Kaluha cake that you would love.
*courtesy of Alice Meddrich*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Kahlua ain’t whiskey. It’s a liqueer.

Adjoran on March 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM

canopfor on March 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Do you remember the scene from this movie..:)

PS..This is for the gopher..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM

and Ruth is what, 105?

Alabama Infidel on March 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

All I know is…
Ruth is still looking good since she was on the Beverly Hill Billies..

Electrongod on March 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM

a capella on March 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Awww, sad.

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:09 AM

And a dream of producing a movie like that..

Oh well..

Electrongod on March 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM

I hear you..Don’t we all wish..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

I’ll try one more time. SCOTUS

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

4Grace:Perfect:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Crap page 3,I’m almost through page 2..d*mmitt!

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM

I’ll try one more time. SCOTUS

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Nice job.

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM

“Healthcare interest groups spent tens of millions of dollars cutting deals with the Obama administration and Congress in 2009 and 2010. The Supreme Court may soon leave those deals in tatters — and saddle the healthcare industry with multi-billion dollar losses…

Doesn’t that just make your heart bleed purple peanut butter? Selling out isn’t to different from gambling but the odds are worse.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM

I hear you..Don’t we all wish..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

I was working at Wendy’s and bought a 8mm film camera…
blue screen….somewhat.. (we won’t go into this)
and darkroom equipment…

Then I saw Hardware Wars on HBO….

I decided to be an engineer instead…

Electrongod on March 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Encore!

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Thanks :)

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Electrongod on March 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Ray Stevens was/is very funny..:)

PS..Sidenote..But Capt. Ed interviewed him on the TEMS show a while back..He is still very active and making music..:)

PS..This is a classic by him..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

lol, third times a charm. Don’t feel bad. I had a burtation on another thread—kind of a premature submission. Don’t rest your finger on the wrong button. :)

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I decided to be an engineer instead…

Electrongod on March 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

You made a good choice..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Dittos on Paul Clement, and we have some other young stars who would qualify. But we need to win to do that, and take the Senate.

Scotusblog is a great source, but their crystal balls on difficult decisions aren’t any clearer than anyone else’s.

One unusual aspect of this case is that when a law is applied, one side or the other may argue congressional intent by referring to the debate. It’s not a cinch, but it has an influence at this level. But there was no debate on this law – “We have to pass it to see what’s in it” may have been Pelosi’s most honest statement ever.

Her remark that no one has a clue what the Court will do is a close second.

Adjoran on March 29, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Once we have control of all 3 branches in 2014, we can now roll out a well crafted single payer healthcare system. Even the radical right wing scotus judges won’t have a chance in hell to rule that unconstitutional.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Y’all got plans to bump off a Justice in 2014?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Severability Would Sink Obama’s Healthcare Allies

How truly schadenfreudig that would be!

They didn’t call it a tax, the charlatans, because back then it wasn’t feasible to do so. Now they want it to be one, depending on the day they argue in front of the supremes. They mus think the judges are all stupid.

Then, the illustrious geniuses left out the severability clause…oh, the smart ones…with the constintutional lawyer as president.

What a country! Welcome to America, JPeterman!

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

canopfor on March 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Do you remember the scene from this movie..:)

PS..This is for the gopher..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Dire Straits:Lmao,oh the memories,I went to the theater to
watch it!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

lol, third times a charm. Don’t feel bad. I had a burtation on another thread—kind of a premature submission. Don’t rest your finger on the wrong button. :)

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Yes premature actions can be embarrassing…in a variety of situations :)

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Y’all got plans to bump off a Justice in 2014?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

They wish one of the conservative ones death, primarily Thomas, but anyone.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Y’all got plans to bump off a Justice in 2014?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Cindy Munford:I would imagine a Recall effort,if that is even
possible.Knowing the Left…where there is a will,
there is a way!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Once we have control of all 3 branches in 2014, we can now roll out a well crafted single payer healthcare system. Even the radical right wing scotus judges won’t have a chance in hell to rule that unconstitutional.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Hahahahahaha!

Wheeeeoooh!

HA!

Oh God, I’m dying here! Whew!

John the Libertarian on March 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

I saw it in the theater also..That scene still make me laugh hard..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Thanks :)

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM

4Grace:-:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

You made a good choice..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Thanks..
I think so to….

Electrongod on March 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM
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I saw it in the theater also..That scene still make me laugh hard..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Dire Straits:Yup,the beginning of the glorious 80′s!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Did you see the poll where a majority of folks surveyed still blame Dubyah for the economy??!!??..:(

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Once we have control of all 3 branches in 2014

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Sorry to revisit such an absurd comment twice, but it reminds me of Terence Trend D’arby declaring himself a musical genius moments before he drops into obscurity forever.

John the Libertarian on March 29, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Did you see the poll where a majority of folks surveyed still blame Dubyah for the economy??!!??..:(

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM

That was a bogus poll. Every other poll has 2/3 blaming Obama.

John the Libertarian on March 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM

If it were possible they would have already tried.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

They wish one of the conservative ones death, primarily Thomas, but anyone.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Let’s see now. The left gets Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Kagan thanks to republican chickenshitedness. We don’t get Bork, Estrada, and several others, once again to the same republican perfidy.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM

That was a bogus poll. Every other poll has 2/3 blaming Obama.

John the Libertarian on March 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Let’s hope so friend..That was a little unsettlimg to me..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM

O/T,in case anyone hasn’t heard,this rig is close to
a KABLUEY!!
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Experts warn Total that leaking North Sea rig could explode submarine readied to inspect leak

Submitted 3 mins ago from http://www.france24.com
http://www.breakingnews.com/
===========================

29 March 2012 – 05H52
Gas explosion risk at stricken North Sea rig
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An expert warned that gas pouring from the platform could ignite with catastrophic consequences if it came into contact with a flare left burning when 238 workers were evacuated from the rig on Sunday.

But a Total spokeswoman said the wind was not currently blowing the cloud of highly flammable gas towards the flare, despite it being less than 100 metres (330 feet) above the leak.

“We don’t see it as a risk because of the prevailing winds and the location of the flame in relation to where the gas leak is,” the spokeswoman said.

Total called in an exploration ship carrying the remote-controlled mini-sub, which is equipped with cameras, late Tuesday. Its task is to assess the underwater leak on the rig.

On Wednesday, the ship, the Highland Fortress, lay just outside a two-nautical mile (3.7 kilometres) exclusion zone around the platform, along with two firefighting vessels, said Total.(More..)

http://www.france24.com/en/20120329-gas-explosion-risk-stricken-north-sea-rig
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canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM

John the Libertarian on March 29, 2012 at 12:28 AM

LoLz..Good analogy..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Once we have control of all 3 branches in 2014, we can now roll out a well crafted single payer healthcare system. Even the radical right wing scotus judges won’t have a chance in hell to rule that unconstitutional.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM

You have to take the plastic wrapper off the Djarum before you smoke it, Cheech.

Chuck Schick on March 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Mrs. Munford. There you is. The other night you got me all excited and wanting to talk GTO. I even had your song Qued up. But no, you were tired and had to leave. Are you related to Mrs. Ziffel?

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM

IMHO Dubyah did well in picking Alito and Roberts..AFTER almost going over the cliff with the Myers pick..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

The GOP needs to introduce the replacement for the Obamacare sham, soon.

Get the predatory lawyers out of health care.

Speakup on March 29, 2012 at 12:35 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM
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If it were possible they would have already tried.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Cindy Munford:Ain’t that the truth!!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM

The Supreme Court spent 91 minutes Wednesday operating on the assumption that it would strike down the key feature of the new health care law, but may have convinced itself in the end not to do that because of just how hard it would be to decide what to do after that.

That should answer itself, right there. This debate is insane. Literally insane. I don’t know where these people come from.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

I might be but Mr. Munford doesn’t like that I stay up late on the computer. He’ll be alright. The car was a 66, Hurst four on the floor in the prettiest greenish blue with a black vinyl top and interior. I don’t remember if it had Tri-power. I will look in our pictures on the desktop tomorrow and see if I have a picture. Although I don’t know if I would know how to link it if I did.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

IMHO Dubyah did well in picking Alito and Roberts..AFTER almost going over the cliff with the Myers pick..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Agreed. The left is going after Roberts–hard–as their insurance. In case Kennedy doesn’t come down on their side.

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

We don’t get Bork, Estrada, and several others, once again to the same republican perfidy.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM

We have eunuchs for ‘leaders’.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Team Right weighs in on HealthCare!
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Lord of the rings……. You Shall Not Pass
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrbR1t-K91I

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:40 AM

We have eunuchs for ‘leaders’.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

“At least, they’re not distracted!” — GOP Defense

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 29, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Did you see the poll where a majority of folks surveyed still blame Dubyah for the economy??!!??..:(

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Fools persist, especially if that’s what they hear from the Fool in Chief and the derelict media. May they all spontaneously combust.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

IMHO Dubyah did well in picking Alito and Roberts..AFTER almost going over the cliff with the Myers pick..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Very true sir. He also had to be helped back onto the tracks, but did get his mojo.

The other night told you I liked Emmy Lou Harris. Few months ago the wife and I were watching a youtube clip featuring her. Great song, she looked really good. Told the wife “man she has really aged well” and chalked it up to being a star/makeup etc. She is only a few years older than me. When I looked at the video again and the caption, I noted it was from 1986. Well even I still looked ok back then.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Man, Justice Kagan had me spitting nails this evening. Whining about the boatloads of money that the federal government plans to send to the states to cover the cost of Obamacare. Exactly where does she think the feds got those boatloads of money?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Let’s hope Kennedy makes the wise choice..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Well even I still looked ok back then.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

LoLz..I hear you..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Although I don’t know if I would know how to link it if I did.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Cindy Munford:Sounds like it had a 389 cubic inch?!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM

My grandpa once told me that before the introduction of the Model T Ford, which mainstreamed credit financing, most people purchased their homes without credit. Apparently the mainstreaming of financing that the Model T brought about then spread into the home market, inflating the prices, and then most people that wanted to buy a home had to go into debt along with everybody else, and really when it comes down to it, the bank really owns most peoples homes.

In the old days people used buy their homes in cash and were the proper owners from day one. They didn’t celebrate “free and clear” when they got older, it was their land. Now the banks sort of own them, and you have to pay your taxes on your property or they’ll eventually take it from you, so the government owns them too. We don’t really own our land anymore.

Maybe I’m wrong but I believe that in the old days, free American citizens used to be able to pay cash for a plot of land, some cows and chickens or what have you, and grow some fruits and vegetables and they could live out their entire lives and never fearing eviction from their own land due to unpaid property taxes…or a mortgage for that matter.

I’ve also heard some people have similar misgivings about insurance as with credit, that it also drives up the costs. It’s something that Walter E. Williams has talked about when he’s subbed for Rush.

If the government can force people to buy insurance, why not mandate they buy their home on credit as well. After all, if somebody does not buy their home on credit it affects commerce too, according to the authoritarians.

FloatingRock on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Man, Justice Kagan had me spitting nails this evening. Whining about the boatloads of money that the federal government plans to send to the states to cover the cost of Obamacare. Exactly where does she think the feds got those boatloads of money?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

These people are just flat out fn evil. She worked to formulate the game plan for O care and then gets a seat on SCOTUS. Like Bill Belichick picking the officials for games his team plays.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM

I believe it did. He had a white 66 with red interior and an automatic (not on the column) but that was before my time, I never saw it.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Man, Justice Kagan had me spitting nails this evening. Whining about the boatloads of money that the federal government plans to send to the states to cover the cost of Obamacare. Exactly where does she think the feds got those boatloads of money?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Obama’s stash? Rich people? (once they start paying their fair share)

Kataklysmic on March 29, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Although I don’t know if I would know how to link it if I did.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Cindy Munford:Heres two,a test drive,and stomping on it!:)
==========================================================

1966 Pontiac GTO 389 Tri-Power (virtual test drive)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRALdU3JnME

1966 Pontiac GTO Test run 15mph to 90mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spq9iJAOkMM&feature=related

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

…Actually, why can’t the government mandate that people buy a home on credit, whether they want a home or not?

FloatingRock on March 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

FloatingRock on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

You know it couldn’t be but so expensive when you could order your house out of the Sears catalog. I think mortgages was the first big jump in prices and the next was the two income households.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Although I don’t know if I would know how to link it if I did.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Thanks. I can find one on google images. They had a pretty metallic green that I don’t remember seeing much as a kid. Mostly reds, whites and darker green—and blue.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM
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I believe it did. He had a white 66 with red interior and an automatic (not on the column) but that was before my time, I never saw it.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Cindy Munford:Sounds great…American Muscle!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

These people are just flat out fn evil. She worked to formulate the game plan for O care and then gets a seat on SCOTUS. Like Bill Belichick picking the officials for games his team plays.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Just another, “if the right were doing it, there would be riots” moment.

Kagan wrote the argument for Obamacare when she was SG. If ever a reason to recuse oneself existed, it does here. However, the sole reason she was selected for SC Justice was to assure a pro-obamacare vote.

Ginsberg has basically rejected the Constitution she has sworn to uphold by telling the Egyptians that if she were writing a Constitution today, she would not look to the US Constitution as a model. That should disqualify her from even being an SC justice. That’s like the CEO of Coca-Cola telling people he would look to Pepsi if he were starting a soft drink company today.

AZfederalist on March 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

1966 Pontiac GTO 389 Tri-Power (virtual test drive)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRALdU3JnME

1966 Pontiac GTO Test run 15mph to 90mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spq9iJAOkMM&feature=related

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I love you. Proof that you can time travel. Now, can you undo Obama?

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Man, Justice Kagan had me spitting nails this evening. Whining about the boatloads of money that the federal government plans to send to the states to cover the cost of Obamacare. Exactly where does she think the feds got those boatloads of money?

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

…that Sluttymayor whatever her name is…had me pounding nails with every question. Lord help us if JugEars gets another pick!

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Thanks. I can find one on google images. They had a pretty metallic green that I don’t remember seeing much as a kid. Mostly reds, whites and darker green—and blue.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

arnold ziffel:Not sure what shade of green Cindys was,found this!:)

1966 Pontiac GTO – Fly/In Cruise/In
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Series #10 Part #1
Fly/In Cruise/In Video Magazine

Wilbur & Joyce Hostetler show us their immaculate 1966 Pontiac GTO. We discuss the restoration & go cruising in Marion, Indiana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuf4ZeG5TTQ&feature=related

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

AZfederalist on March 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

The only thing that keeps me going is to know there are a few of us still out there that can think and be concerned for this great country.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Lyle Denniston
three mutually exclusive options: The heII you say? I’ll go with number one. Strike it down!
Mike Lillis
Nan, remind us again what you’re other option might be. Oh, hopefully the Justices will make you wait to see their decision. Respect, sure you do Nan, suck what?
Bill McMorris
Hey one of Schadenfreudes favorite sources. This has got to be promising. I hope all the cronies fail! Not a smart group to leave out that part. Or is it a trick?
KEVIN SACK
Fail this complete and utter failure of a failure. They recklessly have tickered with this and cost are already steep. On more fronts then just Health.
MICHAEL D. SHEAR
Let me state this as clearly as possible Healthcare is a service, not a right. STFU libs! Mind numbing stupidity.
James Pethokoukis
Promising, toss it all, worry about what to replace it with never! Keep the government out of it , at least don’t get them any more involved. And can someone please clear this up for me. First I thought we were heading towards a Chilean style. Rmoney seemed to embrace the concept didn’t he. Isn’t he the next nom, next POTUS. Why are we talking about the Swiss? How about this horse before cart. Get rid of it first!
KARL ROVE
Let 0 lash out, let him have a complete unhinged meltdown over this. Strike it down now! Now!
Audio 1 Hearing this gives me cautious optimism that the court may strike it down completely. Please!
Video 1 Megan Kelly , Sounds pretty good to me. Shut it down, kick it to the curb, junk it, scrap it. Burn it, throw it out. Bury it. Put it on a rocket to the sun. I just want it gone. When its gone I will dance on its grave and laugh in the faces of the cowards and cheats that passed it in the first place. It has done great harm to our Union.

I want to dance on its ashes. Any one have a tune. That was a lot of reading. Whew!

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Lord help us if JugEars gets another pick!

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

That’s my strongest argument to those that want to sit out the general election. Supreme Court, Supreme Court, Supreme Court!

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM
I love you. Proof that you can time travel. Now, can you undo Obama?

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:55 AM

arnold ziffel:Oh how I wish…on HopeLessNess/ChangeLessNess:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Wilbur & Joyce Hostetler show us their immaculate 1966 Pontiac GTO. We discuss the restoration & go cruising in Marion, Indiana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuf4ZeG5TTQ&feature=related

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Wow. That’s it. I have a metal model of one but never–or don’t remember seeing that color when I was young. I also like the solid colors w/out the vinyl tops, except vinyl was popular at the time.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Maybe I’m wrong but I believe that in the old days, free American citizens used to be able to pay cash for a plot of land, some cows and chickens or what have you, and grow some fruits and vegetables and they could live out their entire lives and never fearing eviction from their own land due to unpaid property taxes…or a mortgage for that matter.

FloatingRock on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

No, there were still bankers and lenders back in the frontier days. Now, a number of people took advantage of the homestead laws where they were required to live off a section of land and then took ownership. But people still bought farms through the bank. That gave rise to the legend of the evil banker who foreclosed on widows and orphans or would take over the farm for a single late or missed payment.

AZfederalist on March 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Lord help us if JugEars gets another pick!

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

KOOLAID2:Yup,I was scream’n about her,and links galore,heres one of
my predictions!
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He doesn’t care. 4 years is all he needs to completely destroy the US of A. Hell, he’s done it in half a’ term.

katy on May 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM

katy: And,if Elena Kagan gets in as SCJOTUSA,she will be in
position to carry on Obama’s Social Justice work for
decades to come!!!:)

canopfor on May 25, 2010 at 3:04 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/25/the-hypocrisy-act-of-2010/

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:03 AM

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

+ 100..Good point..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Why can’t the government force us all to buy a home on credit?

After all, everybody needs a place to live, right? If they don’t have a place to live, especially if they’re homeless on the streets, they are affecting commerce according to authoritarian reasoning, and if people have to buy a home they have to do it on credit or else they will also be impacting the mortgage market as well, which is also commerce, and if people don’t buy homeowners insurance then there’s another market…and utilities can be mandated as well, along with the contents of the fridge. Of course a fridge will also be mandated, and the temperature will be monitored by the government to ensure food safety, otherwise somebody might get sick and become a burden on the collective or state.

And for that matter, why not mandate that every toilet have an automatic flusher and sinks have automatic soap dispensers that are also monitored by the government to ensure that everybody washes their hands adequately after each laboratory use. That would cut down on costs and give the government more power, so it’s a win/win from their perspective.

FloatingRock on March 29, 2012 at 1:04 AM

tickered=tinkered

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:05 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

I think this is the color but it had a black vinyl top. Funny, I don’t normally like vinyl tops but I think this might have looked better with it.

http://www.diecastfast.com/diecast/DCF/PROD/H61-50584-GTO-TURQ

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:06 AM

I want to dance on its ashes. Any one have a tune. That was a lot of reading. Whew!

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

BMore:If you insist,and from Chicago to boot!:)
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Scorpions – We’ll Burn The Sky Live Chicago 1979
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjNKiWYN2Lk

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:08 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I’d love to have that car but I think a paint job would be in its’ very near future.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Dire Straits QOTD song. Last Stand.

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:10 AM

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

All liberals are full of ship but when they can’t even acknowledge the source of their boatloads of money I become unhinged.

“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” (Margaret Thatcher)

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:03 AM

…the tools you have in your head, and at your disposal…always amaze me! (my computer skills are like lobotomy4lifes thinking skills)

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM

I want to dance on its ashes. Any one have a tune. That was a lot of reading. Whew!

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

What is sad, but apparently outside the court’s jurisdiction are several questions.
“You used all sorts of devious machinations to pass this abortion of a bill. You have exempted many groups including your soulless, miserable selves from this legislation. Just how far are you willing to go in an attempt to enslave your fellow citizens? Half way this year, finish it off the next”?

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Scorpions – We’ll Burn The Sky Live Chicago 1979
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjNKiWYN2Lk

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Thanks canopfor!

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

She obviously should have recused herself. It’s hard to have faith in the honor system when it obvious that they don’t have any honor.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM

http://www.diecastfast.com/diecast/DCF/PROD/H61-50584-GTO-TURQ

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Yep. That is the color of my metal model. Is that the color that your husband had?

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:16 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM
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I’d love to have that car but I think a paint job would be in its’ very near future.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Cindy Munford:Agreed,I used to work at an Auto Parts store,I mixed
car piants for Auto-Body shops,and do-it your self
types!

Dupont Delux/Centauri/Acrlic Laguer/Imron(which
was industrial piant,and used on airplanes!

I like 72 Corvette Bryar Blue Metallic!

Btw,our 67′ Chevelle wagon was Torquise colour!

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:16 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM

I just want to avoid the streets. We are make no mistake, headed for the streets. I prefer a peaceful solution. Their choice. I’ll be in D.C 27-30th next month. Protesting. Its my God given right.

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:16 AM

I want to dance on its ashes. Any one have a tune. That was a lot of reading. Whew!

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Does this help?

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 1:17 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Now that was some first rate snark right there. Very good, thumbs up.

/or is that up twinkles these days? I’m thinking that has probably gone by the wayside

AZfederalist on March 29, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM

How are the puppies doing?..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 1:18 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM
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Wow. That’s it. I have a metal model of one but never–or don’t remember seeing that color when I was young. I also like the solid colors w/out the vinyl tops, except vinyl was popular at the time.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

arnold ziffel:Yup,i don’t like vinyl roofs either!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:18 AM

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

She obviously should have recused herself. It’s hard to have faith in the honor system when it obvious that they don’t have any honor.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM

…a true liberal!

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2012 at 1:18 AM

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:16 AM

You are going to be a good resource for my GM paint questions. I have an actual color chart from ebay. for when I was making models of a 1962 Buick, Impala, and Catalina.

arnold ziffel on March 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Can’t go wrong with LZ..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Does this help?

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Why yes, yes it does. Thank you kindly.

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:20 AM

4Grace on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM
+ 100..Good point..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Dire Straits:Yup,I’ll add an extra +100!:)

canopfor on March 29, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 1:18 AM

They are doing well, no more problems so far.

Cindy Munford on March 29, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 1:10 AM

This is my contribution..:)

Dire Straits on March 29, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Bmore on March 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Did someone say BYRN?

MontanaMmmm on March 29, 2012 at 1:21 AM

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