Jeremy Lin has lunch with ESPN editor fired for “chink in the armor” headline

posted at 4:16 pm on March 28, 2012 by Allahpundit

Too early in the afternoon for a feelgood story of the day?

You know I like to be ahead of the curve, so let me put this out there now: The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.) Second look at not asking about birth certificates?

A member of Lin’s family reached out to Federico via e-mail more than a month ago, according to Federico. After several attempts to get Lin and Federico to meet were scuttled because of the Knicks point guard’s busy schedule, the meeting finally took place at a Manhattan restaurant and left Federico thankful for Lin’s graciousness.

“The fact that he reached out to me,” Federico said. “The fact that he took the time to meet with me in his insanely busy schedule . . . He’s just a wonderful, humble person. He didn’t have to do that, especially after everything had kind of died down for the most part.

“We talked more about matters of faith [and] reconciliation. We talked about our shared Christian values and what we’re both trying do with this situation . . . We didn’t talk about the headline for more than three minutes.”

Note that it was the Lins who made the first contact even though at the time the family was in the midst of coping with full-blown Linsanity. Add that admirable magnanimity to the pile of reasons why people root for Jeremy Lin.

Now that Tebow’s in New York, the first “Tim and Jeremy” buddy ad is a fait accompli. Exit question: They won’t both be back-ups by the time it comes out, will they?


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Awwwww…that’s so sweet…and sour
;-)

burrata on March 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

What was on the menu?

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Obviously Lin hates Asians and should be cut from the team immediately.

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 4:19 PM

NATIONAL CRISIS AVERTED.

Good Lt on March 28, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Very nice.

Now, could Lin have a meet-up with Spike Lee and talk about jumping to conclusions, endangering innocent people, and apologies?

conservative pilgrim on March 28, 2012 at 4:22 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Does it matter if he was born to two American citizens who were overseas on charity work? Doesn’t he still qualify as natural born? I don’t believe he’s ever had citizenship elsewhere.

amerpundit on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Add that admirable magnanimity to the pile of reasons why people root for Jeremy Lin.

Contrast this with Obama’s “if I had a son…”…the boss of Holder, the highest lawyer in the land, the president of the country.

Obama has no decency and possesses no leadership.

“Devide and Destroy” — Obama 2012

Forget all that “Hope ‘n Change”.

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Obama “How can I invite both for beer?”

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

(TT was born in the Philippines.)

I don’t think it matters in Tim Tebow’s case. He is natural born just by the simple fact that one or both of his parents are US citizens.

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Not a problem, AP, he was born to parents who were US citizens. Don’t have to be born here. See, e.g., John McCain.

TXUS on March 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Awwwww…that’s so sweet…and sour
;-)

burrata on March 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

It’s nice to read a story on here without any slant to it. Oh wait.

Doughboy on March 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

from the wiki:

According to an April 2000 report by the CRS, most constitutional scholars interpret the natural born citizen clause as to include citizens born outside the United States to parents who are U.S. citizens.

So AP I don’t really think that clause makes Tebow ineligible.

kaltes on March 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Does it matter if he was born to two American citizens who were overseas on charity work? Doesn’t he still qualify as natural born? I don’t believe he’s ever had citizenship elsewhere.

amerpundit on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Make it stop. Just make it stop.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM

See, e.g., John McCain.

TXUS on March 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

McCain was born on sovereign US territory.

kaltes on March 28, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Beer Summit 2.0. Obowma promises to give nukes to Jeremy Lin and come to watch Putin lead the New York Knick fast break.

Politics and the NBA, it’s Fantastic.

dthorny on March 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM

AP: You just HAD to bring up a birther thing.
Thank you sooo much.///

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM

McCain was born on sovereign US territory.

kaltes on March 28, 2012 at 4:26 PM

And had two American parents.

dthorny on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Does it matter if he was born to two American citizens who were overseas on charity work? Doesn’t he still qualify as natural born? I don’t believe he’s ever had citizenship elsewhere.

amerpundit on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Yeah, AP you goofed on that. In fact, why don’t you look up where the last Republican presidential nominee was born?

Natural born means born a citizen, as opposed to naturalized (sorry all you birthers out there, but even if Obama weren’t born in Hawaii, his mother was a citizen therefore he was born a U.S. citizen).

zerosheep on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

(TT was born in the Philippines.) Second look at not asking about birth certificates?

This was already covered in the McCain v Obama election.

McCain was born out of the country (in Panama, I believe).

The left attempted to make an issue of it when the missing Obama birth certificate became an issue; however, it had absolutely no legs.

JadeNYU on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

They talked about the remark the CNN guy made and had a few good raffs about it.

Bishop on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Make it stop. Just make it stop.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM

THIS^^^

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Too many punchlines… must restrain myself…

Seriously: good on ya’, Mr. Lin!!

Khun Joe on March 28, 2012 at 4:29 PM

zerosheep on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I’ve heard people mention that laws on the books at the time required the mother to be over 18 in order to confer citizenship on the child (if she was the only citizen parent).

I personally don’t care because no one will ever remove him from office for it. It’s a moot point until the historians get to the bottom of it decades from now.

JadeNYU on March 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM

(TT was born in the Philippines.) Second look at not asking about birth certificates?
This was already covered in the McCain v Obama election.

McCain was born out of the country (in Panama, I believe).

The left attempted to make an issue of it when the missing Obama birth certificate became an issue; however, it had absolutely no legs.

JadeNYU on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

John McCain’s father was on active duty in the US Navy at the time of his son’s birth…

Obama’s dad… not so much…

Khun Joe on March 28, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Tim Tebow can be President…

one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth,” including any child born “in” the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

Kaptain Amerika on March 28, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Kaptain Amerika on March 28, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Citizenship isn’t the same as natural born.

Arnold can’t be president.

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Now that Tebow’s in New York, the first “Tim and Jeremy” buddy ad is a fait accompli. Exit question: They won’t both be back-ups by the time it comes out, will they?

Book it.

The Knicks are returning to their natural state. Sucking. Like the Jets.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Anyone have any opinions on the differences in how Lin is treated by the media for his Christianity as compared to Tebow? It seems to me Tebow has taken a good bit of grief over it, whereas Lin has not had the same level of harshness directed at him by the NY media.

The media in general is aggressively hostile toward believers, but I sense they give Lin a pass, and I wonder if it’s because he’s Asian. The media enjoys the novelty of an Asian athlete doing well in basketball, and, as a rule, sports journalists don’t want to write negative articles about Asian athletes. I wonder, if Tebow was a black athlete who was an Evangelical and had the same issue with his throwing skill, if sports journalists would still criticize him or protect him (and it’s noteworthy to consider the parallels with Rush Limbaugh and the Donovon McNabb situation).

There are other reasons why the media is tough on Tebow. They don’t think his skill level as a quarterback is satisfactory, whereas Linn’s skill level as a basketball player is unquestioned. But that doesn’t explain why journalists take cheap shots at Tebow for his faith.

The most prominent reason people claim to loathe Tebow is this notion that Tebow puts his faith out there too much. Do other people feel that way? I’ve never had a problem with Tebow’s expressions of faith (Tebowing in the endzone, acknowleding God to start off his post-game interviews). I’ve never heard Tebow rail against the gays, or gays in the military, or abortion, or sinning. He’s pretty good about that. Linn does in fact have video out there where he’s speaking at a large church, but I think by the time the media discovered Linn’s faith, they’d already fallen in love with him as a basketball hero.

shannon76 on March 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

he was born to parents who were US citizens. Don’t have to be born here.

Oh yes you do.

McCain was born on sovereign US territory.

No, he wasn’t. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, which was an unorganized territory at the time.

Make it stop. Just make it stop.

The Constitution is forever.

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

The Constitution is forever.

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

But your understanding of it is limited.

NotCoach on March 28, 2012 at 4:35 PM

“the meeting finally took place at a Manhattan restaurant”

What restaurant?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:36 PM

McCain was born on sovereign US territory.

kaltes on March 28, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Debatable since 1) it is not clear whether he was born in the Canal Zone or in the city of Colon, and 2) the Panama Canal zone was not officially incorporated as sovereign U.S. soil (for example, we did not confer U.S. citizenship on Panama citizens born in the zone). But irrelevant since both parents were citizens.

AngusMc on March 28, 2012 at 4:36 PM

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Watch out, they’ll start calling you a birther like they do anyone who dares question, native of natural.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Watch out, they’ll start calling you a birther like they do anyone who dares question, native of natural.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Thats OK. I am one.

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:38 PM

“the meeting finally took place at a Manhattan restaurant”

What restaurant?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:36 PM

I hope it wasn’t this one:

http://www.opentable.com/bamboo-52?scpref=106

Bishop on March 28, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Bishop on March 28, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Well they did avoid mention of it in the articles after all. : )

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Thats OK. I am one.

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Care to weigh in on Jindal and Rubio for me?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Watch out, they’ll start calling you a birther like they do anyone who dares question, native of natural.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Hey-if the shoe fits…
Mitt/Jindal is starting to sound REALLY good.
*glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Lin has faith and honor. It is only time before the left tries to destroy him.

Grunt on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Care to weigh in on Jindal and Rubio for me?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

I just did.
They were born here to legal residents. They’re eligible!!!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM

*glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

*smiles* : )

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Lin has faith and honor. It is only time before the left tries to destroy him.

Grunt on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

He’s a protected minority. (Unless he says he’s a Republican. Then all bets are off.)

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:48 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Does it matter if he was born to two American citizens who were overseas on charity work? Doesn’t he still qualify as natural born? I don’t believe he’s ever had citizenship elsewhere.

amerpundit on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

The requirement for president is natural born citizen, it doesn’t matter where. So Tebow is eligible. The confusion lies in the fact that the constitution also says that anyone born in US territory is a citizen. It does not limit birth citizenship to only those born in US territory. It depends on the laws in effect at the time of one’s birth.

zmdavid on March 28, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Oh yes you do.

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Yep, you have to be born on sovereign US territory. Unless you’re Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, or Nikki Haley. Then, you have to have a three-generation pedigree before all that tainted fur’ner blood gets washed out of you.

KingGold on March 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Are there seriously people on this thread arguing about natural born citizenship and the Constitution?

Seriously?

Good Lt on March 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM

I am sure liberals will soon label Lin with whatever the Asian equivalent of Uncle Tom is…

ktrich on March 28, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Very nice.

Now, could Lin have a meet-up with Spike Lee and talk about jumping to conclusions, endangering innocent people, and apologies?

conservative pilgrim on March 28, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Great point. Then Lin needs to stop off at the WH and have a few words with BHO.

INC on March 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Are there seriously people on this thread arguing about natural born citizenship and the Constitution?

Seriously?

Good Lt on March 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM

It’s AP’s fault. He knew the slightest suggestion would bring it on.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Obama “How can I invite both for beer?”

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

No more beer summits ,
the WH will now have Dr Pepper summits :D

burrata on March 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Sorry-it’s just birthers cause me to see red.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Obama “How can I invite both for beer?”

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

No more beer summits ,
the WH will now have Dr Pepper summits :D

burrata on March 28, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Care to weigh in on Jindal and Rubio for me?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

I’ll pass. The constitution doesn’t really matter that much anymore, and I don’t want to start a food fight.

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Tebow/Lin 2028!

22044 on March 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Lin should have petitioned ESPN to give the guy his job back. He didn’t.

He should have fought back against the ridiculous PC that destroys lives and careers. He didn’t.

Federico should have politiely declined to meet the guy who could have saved his career with a simple phone call.

darwin on March 28, 2012 at 4:58 PM

The Knicks are returning to their natural state. Sucking. Like the Jets.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Huh? They’re practically the hottest team in the NBA right now.

joejm65 on March 28, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Tebow and Lin can date my daughters!

KOOLAID2 on March 28, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Lin is awesome. So is Tebow.

SparkPlug on March 28, 2012 at 5:18 PM

that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Suprise suprise. A hot gas editor doesn’t know what “natural born” means. No wonder Sheriff Joe is having to do this all by himself.

Nutstuyu on March 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Awwwww…that’s so sweet…and sour
;-)

burrata on March 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Pure genius. Best laugh I’ve had all day.

Lost in Jersey on March 28, 2012 at 5:24 PM

See, e.g., John McCain.

TXUS on March 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM
McCain was born on sovereign US territory.

kaltes on March 28, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Military bases are not necessarily sovereign territory. It depends on agreements with the host country.

Nutstuyu on March 28, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Lin owns the 4th quarter.

SparkPlug on March 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Espn shouldn’t have fired this guy, I hope that the meeting will help someone take a “chance” on him.

Cindy Munford on March 28, 2012 at 6:10 PM

“the meeting finally took place at a Manhattan restaurant”

What restaurant?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 4:36 PM
I hope it wasn’t this one:

http://www.opentable.com/bamboo-52?scpref=106

Bishop on March 28, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Maybe they went to this NYC restaurant.

RickB on March 28, 2012 at 6:44 PM

I don’t think it matters in Tim Tebow’s case. He is natural born just by the simple fact that one or both of his parents are US citizens.

– NotCoach

Then you have to acknowledge that Obama is a natural-born American, period.

Mitchell Heisman on March 28, 2012 at 6:47 PM

There is a constitutional problem with a Tebow/Lin ticket, but it isn’t the “natural born” clause. (It doesn’t matter where he was born. Just like it doesn’t matter where Obama was born.) The constitutional problem with a Tebow/Lin ’24 ticket would be with the 12th Amendment. Now that they’re both in the Big Apple, the electoral college electors from New York couldn’t vote for both of them.

acasilaco on March 28, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I’ll pass. The constitution doesn’t really matter that much anymore, and I don’t want to start a food fight.
sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM

You’re right! Winning matters more than adherence to the constitution. So who cares if the next POTUS is an anchorbaby and steeped in La Raza? It’s all immaterial.

Yet I wonder why SCOTUS looked to the constitution and not the 14th in Minor v Happersett? Given how even Republicans will reinterpret anything if it suits them, the average Joe should look up the source document of MvH and the decision instead of depending on “scholars ” or wiki to render what it all means. After all it’s in black and white, waiting to be red.

As for the 14th amendment, it only concerns itself with native born (stretched to include anchorbaby) and with naturalized citizens, ie Jindal, Rubio and Lin. Tebow is defined as native born. Instead of arguing based on what “they ” told you, look it up yourself. None of those sources are very long and were written in a time when such laws were intended to be plain as the nose on your face, even for the illiterate. Now we run around as if they are so inscrutable one has to have multiple degrees to sort it out.

Carry on. You must have your will done, constitution be ignored as a pesky piece of toiletpaper.

AH_C on March 28, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Espn shouldn’t have fired this guy, I hope that the meeting will help someone take a “chance” on him.

Cindy Munford on March 28, 2012 at 6:10 PM

I agree.

SparkPlug on March 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Carry on. You must have your will done, constitution be ignored as a pesky piece of toiletpaper.
AH_C on March 28, 2012 at 7:05 Pm

Sharrukin, the “you ” here is not “you you ” rather “them you ” :)

AH_C on March 28, 2012 at 7:14 PM

The only thing standing between a Tebow/Lin ticket is about 12 years and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Then there’s nothing standing in the way of a Pacquiao/Tebow ticket. Not for the White House.

For Malacañan Palace.

Pacman, the greatest pound-for-pound boxer evah, is already a Congressman in the Philippines.
And he became born again–like Tim–about a year ago.

itsnotaboutme on March 28, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Lin should have petitioned ESPN to give the guy his job back. He didn’t.
darwin on March 28, 2012 at 4:58 PM

And you this, how ? Seems the type to do it, and keep it quiet.
Couldn’t possibly have happened behind the scenes, tho, right ?
I get it.

pambi on March 28, 2012 at 7:56 PM

zerosheep on March 28, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Actually, no. His father was a foreign citizen, and his mother was underage, cannot confer to him her citizenship. In his case, his paternity established his “natural” citizenship, no matter where he was born.

Tebow is a natural-born U.S. citizen. His parents never relinquished, nor had revoked, their own citizenship, and were missionaries in the Phillipines.

Freelancer on March 28, 2012 at 8:04 PM

and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Please don’t spread misinformation. If you are born to American citizens anywhere in the world, you are a natural born citizen. I should know, I am one.

Common Sense on March 28, 2012 at 8:17 PM

and that pesky “natural born” clause. (TT was born in the Philippines.)

Please don’t spread misinformation. If you are born to American citizens anywhere in the world, you are a natural born citizen. I should know, I am one.

Common Sense on March 28, 2012 at 8:17 PM

It’s not so straight forward. For example, go to the below U.S. State Dept. website and read “Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock.” Not sure why the stipulations were what they were during the time that includes when Obama was born, but it seems pretty clear if he was born outside the U.S., citizenship would not have been automatically transferred to him due to his mother’s young age.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html

That said, I think AP was just being his clever self.

fanofamerica on March 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Espn shouldn’t have fired this guy, I hope that the meeting will help someone take a “chance” on him.

Cindy Munford on March 28, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Think of the access he’d have. Sports media should all be fighting over him. Hopefully Lin’s kind efforts have already put something into action.

fanofamerica on March 28, 2012 at 9:10 PM

The reporter said:
At first I had a hard time recognizing him, all the Asians looked the same in the restaurant…It was a great interview, but an hour after I was hungry again…

right2bright on March 29, 2012 at 7:17 AM

I have to believe that J. Lin must have a good sense of humor. Afterall look where the Lord has put him and Tebow! Right in the middle of one of the most anti-Christian areas in the nation. DD

Darvin Dowdy on March 29, 2012 at 8:07 AM