Is it OK to criticize the president when he’s abroad?

posted at 1:55 pm on March 28, 2012 by Tina Korbe

After Barack Obama, on a trip to Seoul, South Korea, was overheard telling Russian President Dmitry Medvedev he would have “more flexibility” on missile defense after his presumed reelection, Republicans — and Democrats, too, for that matter — sharply criticized the president. One Republican, though, criticized the criticizers.

When Obama is overseas, House Speaker John Boehner said, “it’s appropriate that people not be critical of him or of our country.”

Today on Fox and Friends, former GOP presidential nominee and Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain said he respectfully disagrees with Boehner:

“I understand John Boehner’s point and I respect that, but this is a very serious issue. This is very serious. No matter where the president is, if he makes a statement that I think could endanger the United States national security interest, I have to respond no matter where the President of the United States is,” McCain said on “Fox & Friends.”

He added, “All I can say is that I respectfully disagree with Speaker Boehner. When something that important is said by the President of the United States of America, we have to respond.” …

“The president is ready to back off of what has been our position on missile defense since Ronald Reagan,” the Arizona Republican said. “The President of the United States, Bara[c]k Obama, who back some years ago said he didn’t believe in it anyway is going to be ‘flexible.’ That is very, very revealing about this president, and what does it have to say about an unfettered President of the United States on a myriad of other issues? We certainly know his liberal leanings on a variety of fronts.”

McCain added, “Flexible means you’re going to compromise and I think that’s very dangerous, frankly, for the safety of the United States of America.”

So, which is it? Would it be more appropriate to refrain from criticism of the president for as long as the president is away on official business?

It’s rare that I prefer John McCain’s approach to an issue over John Boehner’s, but, in this case, I think the former nominee is right.

Traditionally, Americans have refrained from criticizing America and/or the president while they are abroad. Back in the day, even leftists abided by that rule. For example, jazz singer Josh White, while on a speaking and singing tour of Europe with Eleanor Roosevelt in 1950, repeatedly refused to sing the anti-lynching song “Strange Fruit.” He didn’t want to broadcast the ugliest aspects of America to the world. Clearly, that’s changed. Remember, in 2003, when Dixie Chicks lead singer Natalie Maines made a rude remark about President George W. Bush at a London concert?

Personally, I’d like to see the revival of that rule. When you tour the world, stay positive about America, people! That goes for the president, too. No more apologies or preemptive promises of “flexibility.”

Note, though, that such a rule doesn’t mean that Americans abroad — including the president — have immunity from at-home criticism. The whole idea is to keep the criticism at home. In the case of the president’s recent comments, the criticism was all here. It’s not like the Americans with him in South Korea jumped his case and embarrassed him in front of Medvedev.
John McCain has an important point that goes beyond etiquette, though. A patriot’s loyalty is to his country before his president.

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Yes if it’s a Republican

No if it’s a Democrat

Isn’t that obvious?

NoFanofLibs on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

It’s ok only for the lefties to criticize a rightie president, when he’s abroad, or when she’s a broad.

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Better question: is it OK for the president to downgrade, disparage, criticize and debase America when he’s abroad?

natasha333 on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Who cares?

JFS61 on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Is it OK to criticize the president when he’s abroad?

Is this another Palin joke?
/rimshot

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

It’s only okay to criticize a Republican president when he’s abroad. Dims are off limits, at home and abroad. Criticize them and you’re clearly an ignorant, xenophobic, homophobic raaaaacist.

AZCoyote on March 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

It is NEVER OK to criticize a demokrat party president! NEVER!

jukin3 on March 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

The problem is not criticizing the president when the president is abroad, but when the would-be-criticizer is abroad.

aunursa on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

McCain’s right, Boehner not so much.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Better question: is it OK for the president to downgrade, disparage, criticize and debase America when he’s abroad?

natasha333 on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Winner!

Here’s Bill Whittle’s take. Don’t think I’ve ever heard him so angry and so spot on….

http://www.therightscoop.com/trifecta-bill-whittle-is-livid-over-obamas-comment-to-medvedev/

tencole on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

It’s ok only for the lefties to criticize a rightie president, when he’s abroad, or when she’s a broad.

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I see what you did there. LOL

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Silly rabbit, the dems had NO PROBLEM bashing W while he was overseas and the faux outrage now? Puhleeeze

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

It’s always my prerogative to cricitcize a Communist in the White House.

It will remain so, even if, and when, the Communists in Congress attempt to deprive me of same.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Criticize when abroad?

Hell, it is getting to the point where it appears to be criminal by the DoJ to criticize the President while at home.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

I don’t know about this question, but I do observe another rule very carefully: I never criticize the President when I’m abroad. And certainly not my country in general.

It’s a rule I adopted years ago when traveling in Asia, and being disgusted by other Americans I encountered who ran down their country and undermined its foreign policy choices at every opportunity.

Chuckles3 on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Don’t cry, John.

MNHawk on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

New Poll showing Obama losing 3 swing states to Mr.Sketch.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74579.html

Oh my bad!!

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

If we promise not to criticize Obama, will he stay out of the country? Otherwise, forget it. Liberals threw that quaint notion under their self-righteous bus years ago.

rhombus on March 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

A patriot’s loyalty is to his country before his president.

Yes.

If the President criticizes or debases America when he’s abroad, then he should expect vigorous criticism from America’s citizens.

INC on March 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

It’s beyond time to replace Boehner! One of the many disappointing leaders in Congress!

tomshup on March 28, 2012 at 2:04 PM

When he’s a broad? What, he’s cross-dressing now?

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Boehner’s position used to be the norm. For example, I remember Rush talking about how inappropriate it was when the left continued their smear job on Bush while he was abroad. But like so many things having to do with decorum and civility, this convention is a thing of the past.

Dee2008 on March 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Is it OK to criticize the president when he’s abroad?

He’s a broad? He’s a broad?

faraway on March 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Well W seemed to survive 8 years of constant criticism whereever he went.

He even had a global entourage of protestors (including US citizens) following him.

Didn’t seem to both him much either.

CorporatePiggy on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Its OK to criticize a President abroad if that said President hates the way America is and what it stands for, and wants to fundamentally transform it into something that looks like it belongs….Abroad.

FlaMurph on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Crap. First, we have to choose between Boehner and McCain. Completely unfair, Tina. THEN, I find myself agreeing with McCain! Man, this is a tough thread.

Since Obama went overseas on numerous occasions and criticized us, why can’t we criticize him while he’s there?

BKeyser on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

er, ‘bother’

CorporatePiggy on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

So, which is it? Would it be more appropriate to refrain from criticism of the president for as long as the president is away on official business?

Back in the day refraining was the order of business. But given the treatment of W., no more.

rbj on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Well, there’s that Mom jeans thing.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Look what the cat dragged in

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM

New Poll showing Obama losing 3 swing states to Mr.Sketch.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74579.html

Oh my bad!!
Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

The polls were of registered voters. Likely voters are more conservative.

What is the D/R/I breakdown?

aunursa on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

John Boehner is far better suited to be running a nursery school than be Speaker of the House. When a kids skin their knees, Boehner can cry along with them.

bw222 on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

The Two Johns. John Boehner vs John McCain. General Weepy in a match with Mr Reach Across The Aisle. Just not feeling the excitment in this showdown.

Glad we have John Boehner there in DC to hold the president’s feet to the fire. /

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

OMG! The senile John has to tell cry baby John to not be crazy?
Bonehead Bonkers! JugEars is critical of ‘his’ country when he’s abroad.
JB! SYADASTFU!

KOOLAID2 on March 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I’m old school in that I think you should represent the country well while you’re abroad (which does not mean lying, of course). It’s the old “keep family business inside the family” sentiment.

I don’t think domestic criticism of Presidents that are abroad is an issue though.

That said, both of these are based on some general sense of ‘I like that” and “I don’t like that”. I haven’t put much thought into how either would affect our geo-political standing, safety, or the President’s ability to do his job. So, I have to remain open to changing my mind if someone comes along with a good argument for doing it differently.

So far though, I’ve only seen people stating preferences (which is fine, but, if there’s no reason for your preference to displace mine, I’ll stick with mine).

JadeNYU on March 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM

O goes overseas and apologizes and demeans our country. Now caught on a hot mic selling out our security. Hell yes. Somebody needs to say something about it. Boehner needs to go!

BobScuba on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Criticize him, but don’t criticize him to foreign markets, i.e. BBC, etc.

If other nations pick up on our criticism, so be it. I do have a problem when a President or anyone goes overseas and criticizes the President, even a socialist.

jeffn21 on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Only if his shoes and dress don’t match.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Look what the cat dragged in

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM

….from another cat’s litterbox!

KOOLAID2 on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Dee2008 on March 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

That was before this President went on his apology tours. That was before this President decided to let the Russians know of his intent to cripple this country.

INC on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

A patriot’s loyalty is to his country before his president.

’nuff said.

Tim_CA on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Back in the day they didn’t have the internet or 24 hour news media. Boehner what a weenie.

dmn1972 on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Never before the back 9.

Ronnie on March 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM

If I were overseas, I would certainly be proud of my country, but there is no way on earth I would defend this WH on its indefensible policies and actions.

INC on March 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM


When Obama is overseas, House Speaker John Boehner said, “it’s appropriate that people not be critical of him or of our country.”

So, what you’re really saying is -

“it’s appropriate that people not exercise their First Amendment rights, when I suggest same.”

Ain’t that grand? Ain’t that just grand?

Just another GOP tool.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Wasn’t obama criticizing America when he complained to Medvedev that were were holding him back? Two-way street, barry.

Ronnie on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

You are so BAD.

HomeoftheBrave on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

I can’t think of anything not to criticize bho on here in the US or where ever he goes!

I don’t give a flying flit what boehner has to say, bho is an anti-American snake!
L

letget on March 28, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Ofcourseeee!
If the results were the other way around, i doubt you will be questioning the breakdown.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

That all went out the door with W.

rubberneck on March 28, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The polls were of registered voters. Likely voters are more conservative.

What is the D/R/I breakdown?

aunursa on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Ofcourseeee!
If the results were the other way around, i doubt you will be questioning the breakdown.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Well – we’re told by the libs how “small” the world is these days (thus the neccessity for one-world gov’t). We’ll let them have it their way on this one. The world is small – he’s basically still in the US right now. So we can criticize him.

The only alternative to criticizing him is to not say anything at all. There’s not a single positive thing anyone can say about him.

Heck – even the throwaway line that everyone uses when they say “he’s a good father” was totally blown out of the water when he shipped his 13 year old south of the border for Spring Break. Apparently he is – as most libs are – a crappy parent.

CycloneCDB on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Ofcourseeee!
If the results were the other way around, i doubt you will be questioning the breakdown.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

We’ve already had it the other way around. I believe that President’s name was Bush.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Only when a president, with no concessions whatsoever (except the vague HOPE that Russia will tone down aid to the enemy before election time), a president unilaterally agrees that he will be less aggressive (disarm if you will)before a hostile adversary who gives money, technical expertise, weapons and even troops to ALL of our enemies.

The significant implication is that if Russia cuts back warlike rhetoric and physical aid-it will encourage all the nations it is helping to do likewise-making a “peaceful world” and concurrently making a perpetual FUBAR president seem an electable “statesmen”.

A second impl8ication is that this peace-like policy (on the part of Russia and our enemies which she is helping) need only be TEMPORARY. Until Obama is re-elected-then “who gives a sh– about this “miserable” country”. Right?

MaiDee on March 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Uh.Mah.Gawd.

SouthernGent on March 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Criticize him wherever he is. Dissent is patriotic.

totherightofthem on March 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Watched the Bill Whittle clip re Obama/Medvedev, set me off. This is treasonous.
Obama is like the jihadi on the Egypt Air flight—–shut off the engines, stalled the 767 out while the other pilots are trying to figure out what is going on and regain control. In this case most republicans are worried about the food cart.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 PM

The polls were of registered voters. Likely voters are more conservative.

What is the D/R/I breakdown?

aunursa on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Ofcourseeee!
If the results were the other way around, i doubt you will be questioning the breakdown.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Wrong thread.

Now tell us again how your side never criticized President Chimpy Bush while he was abroad.

Del Dolemonte on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Yes, if we refer to him and he is indeed a broad, it’s ok to criticize him/it.

Durka-Durka on March 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

John Boner should mind his own business. He is a squishy squish. And the one time he stands up it’s in defense of Obama?

Rusty Allen on March 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

John vs. John.

That sounds like a 3-way with a hooker gone bad.

Bitter Clinger on March 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

It’s a little late for Maverick to grow a backbone.

GarandFan on March 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Is it OK to criticize the president when he’s abroad?

Sorry, but that’s just a stupid question, to begin with.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Yeah, it isn’t what Obama said to Medvedev that was the problem, the problem was us daring to criticize him while he was abroad. As usual, the fault is never in Obama, the fault is always in ourselves.

Mea culpa dear leader, please don’t sic the dogs on me./

Dark Star on March 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM

I say, if he’s abroad, change the locks!! Quick!!

askwhatif on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Better question: is it OK for the president to downgrade, disparage, criticize and debase America when he’s abroad?

natasha333 on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Watched the Bill Whittle clip re Obama/Medvedev, set me off. This is treasonous.
Obama is like the jihadi on the Egypt Air flight—–shut off the engines, stalled the 767 out while the other pilots are trying to figure out what is going on and regain control. In this case most republicans are worried about the food cart.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Well said, Arnold.

Boehner is a wimp. I hope the GOP elects a new Speaker when they win control of the House, Senate and White House this year. They need not be afraid to put a real conservative in that position.

UltimateBob on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Finally, Mr. McCain is right about something. Two weeks ago, Pravda reported on Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigation into Obama’s forged birth certificate and admonished the American press for ignoring the overwhelming evidence that the “birth certificate” was forged and Obama committed fraud by claiming it as authentic.. Earlier this week, Voice of Russia radio interviewed Sheriff Joe. Now remember, Putin is ex-KGB and what does a KGB man do? What if the Russians have conducted a covert investigation into the Obama’s sealed background? What if they have concluded that Sheriff Joe is on to something? What if they have evidence? What if they have privately transmitted this to Obama? Can you say, “Blackmail”? This slip of Obama’s marxist tongue is very serious indeed. We must get to the bottom of what he meant by “flexibility” and what American security is he willing to trade away. In the future, we must never again allow a man to run for high public office without a full disclosure of his past.

Satan, your kingdom must come down.

SpiderMike on March 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM

McCain got this one right. That doesn’t mean Boehner is a “tard” of any kind; it’s possible for people of goodwill to honestly disagree on things.

It’s extremely sad that Americans have to be concerned that their president is conveying things to foreign leaders that are wrong, dangerous, and very bad ideas. It is wildly irresponsible for Obama to imply to Medvedev that he will be more accommodating after being reelected. That’s basically the alternate-universe opposite of statesmanship — it’s more like the importunate promise of a weak gang boss to a stronger one.

I believe that one of the top two reasons the world has not moved sooner or more egregiously to make hay out of Obama’s weakness as an international security leader is that most foreign leaders still think he isn’t representative of the American people on these matters. They’re not going to run with opportunities that could very well be closed off after January 2013. Moving too soon could bite them in the tuchus.

McCain is right to say that we should criticize Obama when he does things like this — responsibly and for constructive purposes. Russia, China, Iran — they and everyone else, including our allies, need to know that this isn’t America.

J.E. Dyer on March 28, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Boehner is a wimp. I hope the GOP elects a new Speaker when they win control of the House, Senate and White House this year. They need not be afraid to put a real conservative in that position.

UltimateBob on March 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

The GOP is backing Romney for the White House position. Boehner will fit right in.

sharrukin on March 28, 2012 at 2:31 PM

The weeper of the house is an ineffectual, stooge, and needs to go.

ultracon on March 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM

I’ve been calling him effeminate for years now.

slickwillie2001 on March 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Looks like old John “my friends across the aisle” McCain isn’t about to repeat his brilliant GOP frontrunner comment that Obama will make a fine leader-and the GOP (Ruling Class II) machine keeps embarrassing themselves with their RINO flip-flop of the day-at the highest levels.

Small wonder they make “Wink, wink, you know what I mean” referrences to Etch-a-sketch birthed statesmen.

I’ll give Oromney a cheer. Loved to see him attack Obama through his Russkie frineds -that’s a win-win for any sensible indie vote who sensed the implications of Obama’s sinister comment.

Romney gets an etch-a-sketch (cheer) from this anti- Romney conservative.

Don L on March 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM

this is tripe, WFC!! Move on to real issues – PLEASE!

Tom66 on March 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM

You are so BAD.

HomeoftheBrave on March 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Thank you :)

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Note to President Obama:

If you don’t want to be criticized when abroad, don’t say stupid things to international leaders into open microphones!

Obama needs to be Mirandized: Anything you say can and will be used against you, including by foreign leaders.

Steve Z on March 28, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Caaaaater! He never stopped criticizing Pres Bush, wether he was in this country or abroad. In fact when caaaaater was abroad he took every opportunity to criticize Pres Bush.
Bush never would of his pre or post, as we know.
Caaaater set the precident.

Bambi on March 28, 2012 at 2:38 PM

McCain got this one right. That doesn’t mean Boehner is a “tard” of any kind; it’s possible for people of goodwill to honestly disagree on things.

They’re both two of the biggest POS around, though McShame is clearly the most detestable Republican – a title he’s held for years, the miserable … Neither McShame nor the Crybaby have any clue about the seriousness of America’s situation. They both need to be sent home … anywhere, toot-sweet.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 28, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Here’s Bill Whittle’s take. Don’t think I’ve ever heard him so angry and so spot on….

http://www.therightscoop.com/trifecta-bill-whittle-is-livid-over-obamas-comment-to-medvedev/

tencole on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Dude, thanks. I sent that link everywhere. When you hear it broken down like that – wow – hi IS a traitor. he should be impeached, tried, and jailed.

And yes, he deserves all the criticism we can muster wherever his sleazy butt is.

HomeoftheBrave on March 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

The crybaby and the confused old man both need to go. We need new leadership in congress!!!

Reality Checker on March 28, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Caaaater set the precident.

Bambi on March 28, 2012 at 2:38 PM

The next to the dumbest president
He sure set a precedent
Hot Gas is full of amusement
Never dull with confusement
Even with the precident

Schadenfreude on March 28, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Is it OK to criticize the president when he’s a broad?

Yes. He’s not immune just because he got a sex change operation.

The Rogue Tomato on March 28, 2012 at 2:47 PM

It’s okay to criticize the POTUS whenever and wherever he attempts to make deals with the KGB’s great hero at the expense of the U.S. and our allies.

cicerone on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Dude, thanks. I sent that link everywhere. When you hear it broken down like that – wow – hi IS a traitor. he should be impeached, tried, and jailed.

And yes, he deserves all the criticism we can muster wherever his sleazy butt is.

HomeoftheBrave on March 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

But this is nothing new. That Barky is a traitor should have been obvious to everyone from that unbelievable and illegal World Traitor Tour he ran around on for a couple of years, blaming America for anything and everything – including colonialism in Egypt – WTF??

And even that was long after EVERYONE got to see the Indonesian Imbecile make the exceedingly illegal and politcally repulsive act of HOLDING THE LARGEST POLITICAL RALLY OF HIS 2008 CAMPAIGN IN A FOREIGN NATION … FOR FOREIGNERS!!! That was long before anyone put the ineligible retard in the White House. He campaigned to FOREIGNERS!!

If America had any self-respect left, Barky would have been tossed from the race and jailed for that highly illegal and politically repulsive Berlin campaign stop. But, no. So, an Indonesian colluding with the Russians against America is what you end up with. Big surprise …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM

If he’d quit wearin’ those Mom jeans, maybe people would quit callin’ him a broad.

Did you notice how I dropped the “g” on those words. Just like Trayvon’s figurative daddy does.for.cetain audiences.

M240H on March 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM

If criticism is warranted then it’s appropriate at any time and in any place. Stop this touchy, feely garbage and go after that failure.

rplat on March 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I thought the rule was for the critic not to criticize while the critic is on foreign soil, not that the Pres (or a Congressman for that matter) is immune from criticism when on foreign soil. If the latter is the case then all the well-deserved criticism of Obama’s Cairo speech and Brandenburg Gate speech and Global Warming Summits was a breach of etiquette. Which is in a word…absurd.

Buy Danish on March 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Wrong thread.

Now tell us again how your side never criticized President Chimpy Bush while he was abroad.

Del Dolemonte on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Who cares? Criticize him all you want. Abroad or back home. He is still going to beat whoever your crew nominates against him

Anyway,I just wanted to point out that the more you out of touch right wingers critize and overeact on every little thing he does, the more his poll numbers go higher.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Looks like McCain is finally getting into the 2008 campaign.

Maverick!

joey24007 on March 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM
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Something particularly sick about an American citizen who is happy abou these things.

Cleombrotus on March 28, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Boehner’s living in the past and dangerously out of touch. We need a stronger Speaker than this wuss.

petefrt on March 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Does it count if you never considered him a legitimate president in the first place?

Cleombrotus on March 28, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

…but given your location, I’m not surprised.

All my work comes from the Upper Eastside where I’ve never seen so many educated people that were as dumb as bags of hammers.

Cleombrotus on March 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Anyway,I just wanted to point out that the more you out of touch right wingers critize and overeact on every little thing he does, the more his poll numbers go higher.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Save it. You and yours pi$$ed and moaned about the so-called imperial presidency throughout Bush 43′s two terms. Now that we really have an imperial presidency it’s all just a big nothing burger to you. This guy has okayed the surveillance without warrant of the citizens of this country, but hey, that’s okay. If we criticize it we’re going to bring on the wrath of Khan the left.

He openly promises to give away our military secrets, you know the same kind of things your hero Bradley Manning is up on charges for giving away, to a former head of the KGB because he’ll be able to completely disregard the law, the Constitution, Congress, SCOTUS, the American People and the welfare of the nation just because it’s his last election.

It’s a wonder he said it will be his last election rather than what he really wanted to say: “it will be the last election.”

This is a BFD to quote our illustrious Vice President and just because you wish it not to be doesn’t make it so.

totherightofthem on March 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Is it OK to criticize the president when he’s abroad?

That’s going a little overboard, don’t you think? I mean he does act like a little girl now and again. Bowing and kowtowing to every wannabe dictator he sees. But calling him a broad now that’s just mean.

Oldnuke on March 28, 2012 at 3:58 PM

McCain should just bow out.

Oh, my bad. OUR president disrespecting America by bowing to a Saudi King, claiming America is evil, says American is no longer a Christian nation, does not believe in American exceptionalism…..

respect is earned.

dthorny on March 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Typical “genteel” Republican bulls–t. Establishment Republicans always want to pretend that they and their opponents are standing around in the Hamptons in 1950′s summer whites playing croquet.

It’s asinine. It’s 2012 and the Democrats make ads about Republicans murdering Granny and the left is shrieking for Cheney to be tortured and executed. Like Bush 44 being too “classy” (and lazy and bungling and wimpy) to reply to unfair criticism of Republican policies, this is just a case of being too afraid of NBC/ABC/NY Times and the rest.

It’s 2012, not 1950, and it’s destructive and dumb to keep pretending times (and our opponents) haven’t radically changed.

Django on March 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Anyway,I just wanted to point out that the more you out of touch right wingers critize and overeact on every little thing he does, the more his poll numbers go higher.

Uppereastside on March 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Save it. You and yours pi$$ed and moaned about the so-called imperial presidency throughout Bush 43′s two terms. Now that we really have an imperial presidency it’s all just a big nothing burger to you. This guy has okayed the surveillance without warrant of the citizens of this country, but hey, that’s okay. If we criticize it we’re going to bring on the wrath of Khan the left.

He openly promises to give away our military secrets, you know the same kind of things your hero Bradley Manning is up on charges for giving away, to a former head of the KGB because he’ll be able to completely disregard the law, the Constitution, Congress, SCOTUS, the American People and the welfare of the nation just because it’s his last election.

It’s a wonder he said it will be his last election rather than what he really wanted to say: “it will be the last election.”

This is a BFD to quote our illustrious Vice President and just because you wish it not to be doesn’t make it so.

totherightofthem on March 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Well, Obowma did close Gitmo……brought the 2016 Olympics to Chicago…..stopped the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan…….lowered unemployment…focused like a laser on jobs (3 letter word, ya know)…stopped the seas from rising….improved relations with the world….assisted in the peacful, Arab spring transitions in Egypt and Libya….adapting an all of the above approach for American energy needs…. not so much.

Only in the liberal mind is 41% approval higher than 65% approval when he was elected.

dthorny on March 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I think that it is okay to apologize for him when he is abroad.

mediamime on March 28, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Alternate headline:

Boehner’s balls not as big as McCains … news at eleven.

HondaV65 on March 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM

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