Quotes of the day

posted at 10:54 pm on March 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

“‘The government had in my view as bad a day as it reasonably could have,’ said Tom Goldstein, founder of SCOTUSblog and a regular litigator at the high court. ‘It won’t cause the government to have a complete cardiac arrest — they’ll just be nauseous for months. … The only people coming out of that building optimistic today were the plaintiffs.’…

“In the orgy of panel discussions, interviews and feature articles previewing this week’s arguments, law professors, Supreme Court litigators and journalists confidently predicted that the justices would uphold the individual mandate as a logical extension of the federal government’s well-established ability to regulate the health insurance market…

“Within the first few minutes of Tuesday’s arguments, that bravado seemed to go out the window.

“‘Eventually, the conventional wisdom will catch up with reality,’ Goldstein joked. ‘It’s absolutely true that this argument has gotten the back of the hand from the legal glitterati, including myself.’”

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“Sorry to keep reiterating this point, but I’ve contended since December 2010 that if the pro-ACA side is unable to articulate a limiting principle that would prevent their decision from giving the federal government an essentially plenary police power to regulate virtually all human activity and inactivity, the individual mandate is doomed. The conservative majority simply will not accept a doctrine that suggests that federal power is not one of limited and enumerated powers.

“Unfortunately for the law’s defenders, the SG today lapsed into incoherence when Justices Alito, Kennedy, and Scalia asked him to identify a limiting principle (check out various liberal blogs for apoplectic reactions to SG Verrilli’s performance)…

“So far, we seem to be left with the ‘health care is special’ argument, which is not a limiting principle, but could persuade a conservative justice or two to join a limited holding. Yet Justice Kennedy suggested today that if the ACA is upheld, the government will soon be back arguing that some other sector of the economy is ‘special.’ Not a good day for limiting principles.”

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“Unlike Scalia and Alito who were more animated with their comments expressing doubt about the law’s validity, Chief Justice John Roberts plainly offered some of his own concerns that at times mirrored Kennedy’s.

“He used the phrase ‘all bets are off’ twice when talking about the ways future Congresses will attempt to fix perceived problems if the law survives. ‘There’s this health care market. Everybody’s in it. So we can regulate it, and we’re going to look at a particular serious problem, which is how people pay for it. But next year, they can decide everybody’s in this market, we’re going to look at a different problem now, and this is how we’re going to regulate it. And we can compel people to do things — purchase insurance, in this case. Something else in the next case, because you’ve — we’ve accepted the argument that this is a market in which everybody participates.’

“Some of the justices wondered whether the government could compel people to exercise, eat broccoli or buy certain cars if the mandate is upheld. Verrilli maintained that wouldn’t be the case.”

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“Reaction in the press room, although mixed, seemed more negative than reaction elsewhere. My canvassing of legal experts found pretty mixed opinions on how the case will turn out. (Walter Dellinger, the Duke law professor who supports the law, pointed out that the plaintiffs effectively made it clear that the only way to create national health insurance would be through a single-payer system, an idea most conservatives detest.)…

“One other note: As somebody who knows the policy issues, the hearing was incredibly frustrating to watch. Both judges and lawyers, on both sides, seemed not to understand the specifics of the health care market and why it would (or would not, depending on your legal philosophy) make the mandate constitutional. But, of course, that’s a pretty good argument for why judges should leave legislative judgment to the legislative branch.

“That was Verrilli’s point at the end, during final summation: That, by striking down the mandate, the judiciary would be committing an aggressive act of judicial review, stepping into matters traditionally reserved for the democratically elected Congress and president. I happen to think he’s right about that. Whether five justices of the court agree, alas, is pretty unclear at this point.”

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“[W]ith a bit of political jujitsu, the president could turn any such defeat into a victory for a single-payer healthcare system — Medicare for all

“If the Supreme Court strikes down the individual mandate in the new health law, private insurers will swarm Capitol Hill demanding that the law be amended to remove the requirement that they cover people with pre-existing conditions.

“When this happens, Obama and the Democrats should say they’re willing to remove that requirement – but only if Medicare is available to all, financed by payroll taxes.

“If they did this the public will be behind them — as will the Supreme Court.”

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Via Reason TV.

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Hey, BMore, I’ve got some more funk for ya.
5to4 or more

MontanaMmmm on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I’m very much like my dad-in good ways.
That helps. When he was my age-I was almost 14. Wow.
Praying for your family. *hug*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Thanks. Hey, did you know that we have railroads and Walmarts and universities where one’s children can study engineering right here in northeast Ohio? Also fewer poiosonous spiders and scorpions!

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Man, I shouldn’t have started doing this. Can’t stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBTHu9JSB0

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Man, I shouldn’t have started doing this. Can’t stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBTHu9JSB0

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

We’re all sort of partial to Mark Knopfler around here… :-D I haven’t watched that for a long time!

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Another prissy.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 1:22 AM
No she’s not-far from it actually.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Thank you.. just someone who saw the words and the implications, chose not to say anything until you started getting b*tchy about it.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Hey, BMore, I’ve got some more funk for ya.
5to4 or more

MontanaMmmm on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I can’t help liking the funk. Yeah I get picked on for my musical tastes and such. Not here with you all though.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

sorry – you as in OP not ALT.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Well, it would depend upon the context and how astute and sensitive your audience is. Of course it’s always possible that a boorish, clod-like person might not pick up on the subtleties of your humor. But I’m sure that most people would be able to tell that it was actually a hilarious joke by the way you said it.

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:24 AM

OK “I can hear see A tRee

from

my Window

And now I have to go. Good night!

Igor R. on March 28, 2012 at 1:30 AM

And now I have to go. Good night!

Igor R. on March 28, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Goodnight, Karl my friend!

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM

No word yet on whether he voted for someone who looked like Travyon Martin’s father.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM

If so, this should be an eye-opening experience for him and his family, eh?

As someone once said, it can be fun to watch stupid people learn things.

/…and yes, I’m sorry, if you voted for the person who looked like Tavyon Martin’s father, that appellation applies

AZfederalist on March 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Igor?

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Thank you.. just someone who saw the words and the implications, chose not to say anything until you started getting b*tchy about it.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

An Implications Swami. How quaint.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

I don’t even like funk, I picked it for the words.
QOTD. I’m way behind tonight.

MontanaMmmm on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Thumbs up!!..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

+ 100..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

An Implications Swami. How quaint.

VorDaj on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

You don’t think there’s something… off… about saying that Obama might be into blonde slave boys… or so someone has heard?

And you think that this is an appropriate place to have that conversation? Really?

And it doesn’t squick you a wee bit?

Fair enough.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Fair enough.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

I gave up. :-)

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Actually,.. My mood goes more this way tonight..

I am immortal, I have inside me blood of kings, (Yeah!)
I have no rival, No man can be my equal,
Take me to the future of your world,
Born to be kings, Princes of the universe,

If this doesn’t stir your blood,.. ye have not the blood of warrior poets within.

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 1:37 AM

This explains the name. Is anything of yours available on the internet? I love a cappella.

blink on March 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM

No, nothing on Youtube. We used to have concerts twice a year, made C/Ds and sold them. Did lots of events. It was a chorus, about 70 guys, loads of fun and, man, can it raise goosebumps, if everybody is on. Lots and lots of practice and travel….like any hobby it can take over your life it you let it. I highly recommend it.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:19 AM
Thumbs up!!..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

agreed! My daughter and I used to sing that one in the car together, she had it down to memory at age 4.
Thanks:) for that one.

MontanaMmmm on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

imdb lists the actor as “Hoyt Pollard”, and it lists the character he plays as “Boy at Gas Station”.

blink on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Weird. I looked it up to make sure I wasn’t fibbing. I did have Billy’s name spelled wrong. But its definitely Billy.

Found this one also.

I mean heIIfire I know its Billy. I guess IMDB is wrong?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:24 AM

The lady has a beautiful voice..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Highlander + Queen = Heaven on earth!

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Man, I shouldn’t have started doing this. Can’t stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBTHu9JSB0

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

How cool it would be to just sit in that room and watch those two perform their magic.

I have a Johnny Cash cd all done at his private studio. Tracks not released prior to his death. I would have been in heaven listening to him and his friends over a glass of wild Turkey and a nice cigar. How come I can’t have dreams like that while I’m sleeping at night instead of nonsense/frustration dreams?

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:39 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Your welcome..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Good night all! Sweet dreams!

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:41 AM

sorry – you as in OP not ALT.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I know. *grin*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Highlander + Queen = Heaven on earth!

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

+ 100..Highlander the movie was great..The TV series not so much..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Good Night Cyndy, pleasant dreams.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Right now I’m watching my kitteh stalk an almost invisible moth. Too funny!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Can’t stop.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

a capella… for you

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 1:49 AM

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

I honestly had never known this man before.. and after going down his playlist..

I’m now going to be a fan for life..

This took me back to a youth of some 21 summers, and the way things were in the band of brothers I knew. Before,.. when I still … well before..

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 1:51 AM

Fair enough.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

I gave up. :-)

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:36 AM

You didn’t deserve the crankiness.

sorry – you as in OP not ALT.

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I know. *grin*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Very glad. Thanks again.

It’s late and I’m old. Good night!

kim roy on March 28, 2012 at 1:52 AM

Here is another song from that movie O Brother Where Art Thou..:)

PS..Three great voices..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:53 AM

cynccook on March 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Spawn is a majoring in history and want’s to join ROTC. Texas is a right-to-work state, and I LIKE spideys.
I’ve told the Mister that I’d sooner leave him than move back east.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 1:55 AM

PS..Three great voices..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Nice Dire. Emmy Lou is my girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbw0yFuEtKU

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 AM

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 1:49 AM

Dang, I love that stuff! Thank you.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 AM

I don’t know the movie well enough to remember.

blink on March 28, 2012 at 1:56 AM

I know this. Ned Beatty played the part of America under Obama’s watch.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:59 AM

blink on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 AM

Spawn was in a video that was named 3rd best in the state by Illinois OTSD.
I wish that I could post it.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 AM

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:57 AM

+ 100..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 1:53 AM

But Dire… this is the sexy version.

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:59 AM

rofl..:)
PS..There goes that monitor!!..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM

But Dire… this is the sexy version.

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Well played sir..Well played!!..:)

Dire Straits on March 28, 2012 at 2:04 AM

I stepped out to look at some of the other threads. Can the libs/trolls EVER make some kind of coherent argument rather than just playing zoo monkeys throwing poop? They get a verbal beating every time and just come back for more. By this time of the night I’m ready to relax and just do semi-politics.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:09 AM

I have a Johnny Cash cd all done at his private studio. Tracks not released prior to his death. I would have been in heaven listening to him and his friends over a glass of wild Turkey and a nice cigar. How come I can’t have dreams like that while I’m sleeping at night instead of nonsense/frustration dreams?

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 1:39 AM

My earliest musical memories, were my father sitting reading the Sunday paper and having Johnny Cash playing on his proudest possession, a stereo Hi-Fi and asking me to reset the LP for him as he enjoyed his morning coffee and paper to Johnny Cash, Archie Campbell, and oh… the name… uhm,.. Homer and Jethro.. Hank Williams Sr. .. Old bluegrass country,..

and dreams.. God, I wish I could control those.. I don’t like remembering mine.. too many nightmares,.. I never saw combat.. but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen and lived enough sometimes., almost enough for two of me.. I hate to dream now.. didn’t used to.. I hope yours get better, happier. I wasn’t much of a Hank fan, but my father was.. I lost him in 89, when I was 30.

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 2:10 AM

blink, I never knew there was so much confusion out there over Billy. I’ll have to ask him sometime. I don’t go to the cafe much. I did notice Tim Burton used him in a movie Big Fish. I like Burtons work, he’s one of my fav’s. I don’t watch to many movies though. Go to the local drive inn once and a while. Anyway they must of had things confused with who did what in the movie cause this is definitely Billy. Ain’t no mistaking that mug. LOL!

Here he is. And again here.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 AM

That reminds me. Where has Dr. “Bobby” Tesla been lately?

blink on March 28, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Are you referring to Bobby Hill? Dr. Tesla can be—or initially was, pretty lucid if a little too direct. The last few weeks he has been out there.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM

But Dire… this is the sexy version.

John the Libertarian on March 28, 2012 at 2:02 AM

; )

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM

A driving video?

blink on March 28, 2012 at 2:06 AM
Teen safe driving. It was about driving hazards. Very creative.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM

I think you should upload a song and give us the link.

blink on March 28, 2012 at 1:58 AM

B’gosh they have some stuff on there. I’ve been out of it a few years. If the link doesn’t work, just search for Homestead Harmonizers. I haven’t looked at any of it. Hope there is some music instead of guys just screwing around. Anyway..this is my old group.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Homestead+Harmonizers&oq=Homestead+Harmonizers&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_l=youtube-psuggest.12..0.2968l14718l0l20484l21l21l0l10l10l0l547l2641l1j1j6j0j1j1l10l0.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Do they still have drive-in movies where you live? I think here in CA there are probably less than ten.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 AM

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 AM

WE have one in Lubbock. Because it rarely gets ‘really’ cold-the place does good business.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:17 AM

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 2:10 AM

That was a nice story about your memories. I’m glad you remember your pop fondly. I don’t have nightmares just frustration type dreams that are not like I had when I was younger—flying, boating, girls. Now they are arguments, leaky roofs, just stupid stuff.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:14 AM

We have one. Its a bit of a drive for me. I’m up in the mountain a bit. The nice thing is you can put out a table and a couple of chairs and relax. Take a nice supper, bless the cup a bit.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

WE have one in Lubbock. Because it rarely gets ‘really’ cold-the place does good business.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:17 AM

You’ve been there about a year. Do you like it a lot more than IL?

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:21 AM

blink on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

Its okay to tease the Dr., but ole Ned was never the same after that scene. He didn’t find it one bit funny.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Do they get pretty good movies?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 AM

During the bullying thread, I started calling Dr. Tesla, “Bobby,” after Ned Beatty’s character.

blink on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

I get it now. Boy he was way goofy on that one. I remember you poking the pig that day.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Excellent. Those are some of the oldest a cappella singers that I’ve ever seen. :)

blink on March 28, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Yeah, some old farts and we would get some college kids, usually music majors who sing barbershop in college, during the summer. I haven’t seen anything really good on those links. Mostly recruitment crap. Concert and competition songs are pretty finely honed. Didn’t see anything like that.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:27 AM

You’ve been there about a year. Do you like it a lot more than IL?

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:21 AM

Yes and no.

Negatives: This is ‘muslim central’ for West Texas. There’s 2-3 mosues and MSA chapters @ Tech and SPC There’s a sma;; liberal ‘temple’ and ZERO Jewish groups @ either Tech or SPC. There are also a lot of Ronulans and birchers. To work as an election judge in the May primaries I had to fill out a tax form. Election judge pay in Cook and Will counties(IL) is tax free.
The Food sux. Can’t fins egg bagels or a good pizza. No Paneras or Noodles & Co’s either.

I’ve had a job for almost a year. While I still get kidded about my Chicago accent(and being Cubs fan)I’m conisdered to be a Lubbockite now. Didn’t I mention that I’ve had a job for almost a year? LoL
Spawn’s joining us in late May. We’ll never go back to Illinois.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Do they get pretty good movies?

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:23 AM

Yeah. First run-and it’s open year ’round.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:30 AM

blink on March 28, 2012 at 2:29 AM

No, I think it really, really effected him. Not in a good way. Trying to think of something to play. Not having much luck. Here I’ll play this for alt. A little ole band from Texas.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Spawn’s joining us in late May. We’ll never go back to Illinois.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Good for you. TX is overall a great place. Surprising about the muslim thing in Lubbock. hope we don’t read about some jihadi camp. the pizza thing is also problematic but I make a lot of our own.

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Look out, tornado is coming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R13MFULyqg&feature=related

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:38 AM

Well y’all I’m out. More chainsaw work tomorrow. I’ll leave ya with this. Should keep ya busy for 45 minutes. Good Night All.

Bmore on March 28, 2012 at 2:41 AM

The bad thing about getting up when you can’t sleep and checking the last page of the QOTD thread is that you have no idea where the discussion has gone. And you’re too tired to start at the beginning. I saw Johnny Cash’s name in a couple of comments so the only anecdote I can add is that my first job at 15 was in a movie theater in Houston. That was the pre-multi plex era and when the theaters had chandaliers etc. When there was a movie premiere, sometimes the star would show up. I can’t even remember the name of it but Johnny Cash came for the opening and the movie owner had me bring him (Cash) a box of popcorn. I shook his hand and he seemed about 9′ tall back then. He looked like he had a hard life even then which would have been about 1971. He’s the only star that I ever actually met and was really gracious. I saw Kevin Costner at a Rockets game when he was in town making Tin Cup but that doesn’t count.

TxAnn56 on March 28, 2012 at 2:42 AM

arnold ziffel on March 28, 2012 at 2:38 AM

We don’t get tornados-we get dust storms. I had never seen one, so me with my asthma went out to watch. Bad. Idea.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 28, 2012 at 2:43 AM

My mood has gone maudlin now,.. I go there a lot.. The price a romantic pays for believing with their whole heart,.. past times, regrets, proud moments, and remembrances.. my tastes in music are eclectic to say the least, I’m all over the parking lot.. but like art, I know it when I see it..

Last one this early morning, I promise..

The quieter moments just make the happier times all the more special. I’m optimistic, this isn’t about politics for me, hasn’t been for years.. it’s about good faith men and women working to make our place in this world better than we knew it to be when we first found it. It is between good and evil to me.. as cliched as that sounds..

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Spike Lee- vigilante juctice…..for an elderly couple at an address he gave out
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:49 AM

juctice s/b justice

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:51 AM

mark81150 on March 28, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Thanks.

a capella on March 28, 2012 at 2:53 AM

My friend got bit in the head by a spider. Every so often that spot swells up and turns red even years later.

SparkPlug on March 28, 2012 at 3:56 AM

Nothing from Justice Thomas?

dukecitygirl on March 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM

He almost never says anything during oral argument.

MJBrutus on March 28, 2012 at 4:36 AM

“When this happens, Obama and the Democrats should say they’re willing to remove that requirement – but only if Medicare is available to all, financed by payroll taxes.

“If they did this the public will be behind them — as will the Supreme Court.”

I don’t think so reichie…don’t think so at all…

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 6:47 AM

good morning folks…

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 6:47 AM

My take.

kingsjester on March 28, 2012 at 7:01 AM

kingsjester on March 28, 2012 at 7:01 AM

nice wrap up KJ…

definitely pray

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 7:04 AM

Good morning cmsinaz. For the first time in months I’ve tuned to Morning Schmoe and am loving his “if the Supreme Court overturns ObamaCare, this could be really good for the Democrats”.

What’s funny is he is sitting there looking normal and then says “Oh, Alex just reminded me in my ear piece….” These stooges get White House talking points as they are on the air. You can’t tell he’s wearing a wire.

Marcus on March 28, 2012 at 7:19 AM

ObamaCare in 2010….

Soylent Green Retirement /Hospice Centers by 2016…..

Hunger Games by 2030…

…… Now THAT is the Progressive dream-come-true.

PappyD61 on March 28, 2012 at 7:25 AM

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 7:04 AM

Thank you, ma’am.

Whole lot of spinnin’ going on.

Let me start the day off with a firestorm: Just because a state has the right to do something Constitutionally, doesn’t mean that they should.

kingsjester on March 28, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Nothing has been struck down yet, people.

Lanceman on March 27, 2012 at 11:07 PM

This

Cleombrotus on March 28, 2012 at 7:35 AM

Marcus on March 28, 2012 at 7:19 AM

yepper…donnie deutch was going to say something about valerie jarret and mika was not going to have any of that…that is her bestest buddy…

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Marcus on March 28, 2012 at 7:19 AM

yepper, they’ve got the wh talking points down if this is overturned and all the praise ready if it is upheld

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 7:39 AM

kingsjester on March 28, 2012 at 7:26 AM

very good point KJ

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 7:40 AM

marcus, they did show a karl rove ad where dear leader was against the mandate before he was for it…very good ad…

cmsinaz on March 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM

“One other note: As somebody who knows the policy issues, the hearing was incredibly frustrating to watch. Both judges and lawyers, on both sides, seemed not to understand the specifics of the health care market and why it would (or would not, depending on your legal philosophy) make the mandate constitutional. But, of course, that’s a pretty good argument for why judges should leave legislative judgment to the legislative branch.

I’m not sure who said this , as it is listed at the top of this thread but whoever said it clearly has no clue about heath insurance, risk factoring, actuarial principles or the Constitution. The argument from the left is that it should be allowed to stand not because it’s Constitutional but because it’s utilitarian, although they’d like you to believe that they are one on the same. They aren’t.

Clearly, the law (IMO) does not meet the smell test for Constitutionality because it seems to be the government creating a market for which it will impose it’s “authority” to control interstate commerce and secondly because it says that all currently participate in it. Clearly, on the second point that isn’t true because 40 million or so are uninsured, so they by definition CANNOT be participants.

If anything ACA insurance will be incredibly expensive and will be like the government running mortgages and student loans. Insurance companies see this law as a giant pot of unlimited money to take from those who don’t want to participate, which the last time I checked, was almost 60 % of registered voters.

This is clearly socialism in increments. A favorite tactic of Obama’s Father who also attempted to do socialize health care in Kenya. Like Father, like Son.

Fortunately, he failed. Let’s hope this happens here. It seems readily apparent that Obama is following the blue print of his old man who was a discredited crack pot cum economist.

DevilsPrinciple on March 28, 2012 at 7:47 AM

I;m just worried about what Holder may be doing while we are all focusing on SCOTUS.

ctmom on March 28, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Mika Boobinski: “…and on tomorrow’s show, Howard Dean. Thank-God!”

Not a good morning for Boobinski.

Marcus on March 28, 2012 at 8:00 AM

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